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I decided to buy the Walther PPQ because of the awesome trigger. For me this is the big difference of all the good and durable striker fire polymer guns.
I own the M&P and PPQ. The PPQ for me is a totally better firearm in pretty much every way. I've owned the G19 as well however I'm not the biggest fan of the Glock feel.
How is the PPQ better than the M&P? First off I've owned the Pro 5" M&P, the 4.25" FS and the Shield. Bought all of them new, the PPQ, has every single one outclassed in ergonomics, it's perfect fit for my hand, style, fit and finish is better and shooting, while all are good shooters the PPQ'S trigger is what sets it apart from any M&P listed above, although the take up is quite a bit, the pull it's self is light and has a a crisp break and short reset. Since writing my original statement I've purchased a G21, because I wanted a good .45 acp, the Glock trigger and ergos leave much to be desired however it's a good weapon in the same way that a civic is a good car. It does all the things you want but is great at nothing.
+Carlos Finch Im not a big fan of Glock handguns. And no I dont even own one. Iv held them and they didnt feel to bad. But I never hear or see anything good with them unless it is a Gen 3 or older. I love my M&P but that is just a opinion. I dont own a Ppq but plan to buy a Pk380 for my wife. I think Smith&Wesson makes the PPQ though...Maybe they make a different model for Walther. I cant remember right lol
Smith had a contract years ago with Walther for assembly here in the States but that has since been rescinded. All Walthers are made in Germany these days.
Sig an HK are great over priced pistols. What I hear is HK is going bankrupt, maybe do to their high prices. They have priced there selves out of the market.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Actually I felt all three pistols were excellent. The term best is subjective and ultimately each user needs to define what their needs are and what is best for them. Stay safe.
+Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC So in a case where all are fairly equal then price would be the deciding factor. I think the PPQ would be the most expensive, followed by the Glock 19, and then the M&P. But with that being said the trigger and sights on the PPQ are pretty solid and wouldn't need replaced by aftermarket kits. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
+Ghos7N54 agreed. the problem is that this video is click bait to advertise that he's going to display which gun is best and then comes to no conclusion.
Of the three, I shoot the PPQ best, next a modified M&P (Apex DAEK, DPM recoil assb.) and last the Glock. The Glock is easiest to find parts for and accessories for, and easiest to work on.
I say this all the time. I'm a PPQ owner and a Walther fanboy, but if the SHTF and all I had was a Glock, I'd still be happy. We're at a point in time where the differences between these guns comes down to ergos, and barely a blonde one's difference in all the other characteristics. I definitely encourage people to give the PPQ a try, run a box through one at the range and see how they like it, but I always tell a person to buy what they shoot best unless there is a compelling reason (like cost or added safety features) to buy something different. Just as long as they shoot it pretty well, and can improve their skills with some trigger time.
+Sig229DAK I also have two. The 5" barrel model and the 4" model. The 5" is my range and home defense, the 4" will go with me when I get my CCP. Big walther fan here.
@@jsc5590 Hell dude, if I found a steal on a SIG when I went shopping, I'd have bought one. I picked the PPQ deliberately, but just about every polymer 9mm I test fired (1 box thru each, then another box through my favorites, then one more box thru my Top 3) was more than adequate. But if the PPQ had been more expensive, I probably would have settled for my 2nd or 3rd fav - SIG 320 and VP9, especially if I found a good deal.
Andrew, another confession...I sold my PPQ M2 (still have the PPS M2), for a Sig Sauer P365...and couldn't be happier! Those Germans really know how to make great firearms:) Best, JC @@andrewcz8871
Its nice to hear some one who isn't biased towards only what they carry. Too many people are so attached to one brand that they don't realize or want to admit that most of the modern polymer (not all) handguns manufactured today will serve well.
Yes it has good ergos but I think the M&P does as well. As far as handguns I'm agnostic on brand, model or type. The user should use what they feel fits their hand best.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC I tried out an M&P, wanted to love it, intended on bringing one home. Felt amazing, good trigger on the 2.0, but shot low every time, couldn't figure it out. Shame though cause it felt amazing and it's a great gun.
Just came across this video because I'm in the market for another life time partner. Like what I saw you did keep it even except that the Glock had a light on it helping it by adding weight to the front keeping its recoil down. The PPQ and the M&P did great on their own without the extra weight. I like the way the PPQ feels in my hand. Make it a match up made to keep me out of heaven and in Hell a little Longer. Edited for spelling, have to watch out for the spelling trolls.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good point on the light, I should have removed that. The PPQ is a great pistol. Over the past couple of years I taught several hundred students at a variety of skill levels. In NH and RI the primary guns folks are shooting in our classes are Glocks, M&Ps, and Sig P320s. Only one guy in an intermediate defensive handgun class, shot the PPQ. It had no issues at all and we shot about 650 rounds that day. Top trainers like Vickers, Proctor, Travis Haley and Costa seem to mostly shoot the Glock 19. Since the PPQ is such a nice pistol I have been surprised that I don't see it used more. Aside from its high bore axis the trigger is exceptional and it has good ergonomics. I do have the say the Gen 5 G19 and the M&P 2.0 Compact would be at the top of my list if I were getting additional pistols. Check back and let me know how the PPQ does for you. All the best and stay safe.
I’ve owned just about every M&P pistol( Huge Fan) . M&P Pro 9 with RMR threaded- soon to be suppressor . M&P 2.0 ,40 with carver comp lmk barrel and lazer . The best stock is m&p 2.0 9MM . One of the best guns I’ve shot , I’ve owned PPQ q5 , it was ok . PPQ M1 - I absolute love it , my everyday carry .Glock- egh G19 just felt like a throw away , so bland and pretty good shot. I jog with a Sig p365 , pretty good body shots shit grouping at 60 yards.
Best is the you own of course. I have a PPQ and 3 XDs and a couple of Berettas. 2 of my XDs are compacts and are my regular day, concealed carries. Also have a good IWB holster for my PPQ. Its concealable as well.
The "best" is very subjective and based upon ones tendencies to like a particular feature of one manufacturer over another. If I were given any of these pistols and told I could only use that from here on out then I would develop familiarity and expertise on that particular firearm. That being said, I have practiced with all three of these and I gravitated toward the Walther PPQ as the one I would choose, if given a choice. I absolutely love the trigger and I think the ergos are better than the other two. But I would be content with any of them.
Wish there were more aftermarket for the PPQ M2 5", I feel it is frankly the best one out there in it's class and is terribly underrepresented. I like the video but I would like to of had a bit more info on your take about what it was specifically you liked and disliked about each gun.
+Robnting Tie Good insight. The challenge for me is I like all of them. My comments pro or con are subjective however. So what might not work for me would work for you. Agree with your comments about after market parts and cost of additional mags for the pistol. One reason why I like the Glocks and M&Ps is the fact there are so many options for upgrades.
+Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC Still would like your input, I think we can agree everyone's opinion is subjective but none the less important for the most part. I do think at the price point this platform comes at, it would not be too much to ask for metal night sights as a standard. My only hang-up about this weapon as shipped. Again I love the video, short and sweet with out slant. My only input is the weapons should be compared in the stock configuration from the manufacturer. As in no light for your Glock, albeit a sexy light :) Keep up the outstanding work sir.
Honestly, it comes down to shooting the guns. I picked the PPQ but honestly would have settled for my 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th favorite and not lost a moment of sleep. I got lucky, there is a nearby gun range that stocks dozens of modern pistols as rentals, so I tested about 10 or 12, then retested my top 6, then my top 3. 2nd in line for me was Sig 320, 3rd was VP9, but the Walther PPQ won the day. Trigger, ergos (love the slide release feel, and that it's ambi), and looks put it over the others. And I'm fairly new to handguns, but honestly I shot every single one I tested very very well - to the point that I shot my Top 6's just about identically. In fact, by the time it got to my Top 3 testing, I was factoring in how well my Wife shot them, because if I'm not home and the door busts in, she's the one behind the sights. PPQ won the day, but the margins were slim.
I've seen enough people shoot all these guns with ridiculous accuracy that it is clear that the choice is subjective based on the person's preferences. For me its the PPQ all day. The nice trigger just helps me shoot better.
I like this video because its about as simple as a polymer 9mm comparison needs to be. At the end of the day, you can make a video about how you prefer either one, but the next shooter will disagree. These three including the VP9 are all going to be a great purchase, no matter how you slice it.
Modern manufacturing has made all these pistols great and each is unique in their own way. Now a days, it's just a matter of personal preference as to which pistol is better. I'm bias, and I just have to go with German or Austrian made pistols, such as, the Walther PPQ M2 5" or the new Steyr L9 A-1. IMO. ;)
Sir, thanks for watching. I agree with you the PPQ trigger is exceptional. Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope you will subscribe to the channel.
The grouping looked better on the Glock and M&P then the PPQ but the ergonomics on the Walther is great. I am looking to buy a hand gun but can't decide if I want a striker fired gun or a double/single action.
I want to buy the Walther, but that magazine release button, or whatever that it is called, could be the deal breaker! I love my Glock 19 and 17; both are so easy to master, considering I come from the Marine Corps and the 1911 A1 world. Very nice video, and terrific shooting!
I had all three, the m1 ppq was a great gun but I couldn't or didn't want to overcome the high bore axis and the limited sight option. Loved the trigger, mag release and ergonomics though. Great video!
The Walther P99 AS is still the best of any of them with different trigger options for different shooters, decocker option and still has the ergonomics of a Walther. In my opinion anyway having owned and shot all three of these and many others.
Almost purchased an m&p 9mm but waited. I picked up an m&p shield 9mm instead and it's nice. I just happened to trade for a used 19 gen 3. There had to have been only one round through it. When I got home I looked up the production date and it was 2006..... A safe queen???? Anyway, I drive tacs with that thing. I love my 19 gen 3. Next is a CZ P01 9mm and then maybe the PPQ. The m&p just isn't for me at this point. Didn't really like the feel for my hands. Maybe I will try again someday. Good video. Nice shooting.
I am new to pistols, just got my first one - a Glock 19 Gen 3. LOVE IT!!! But I was also wondering how the others fared and this was a great insight. Someday when I decide to buy my second pistol I will probably settle on one of these. Thanks for sharing.
These three are also my favorite striker-fired polymer handguns in 9mm! All three have their + & - 's and it just comes down to personal preference. For me it is the PPQ. I own a M&P9c and a Walther PPQ M2 Navy. I have a few friends that own Glock 17's and 19's and love them. M&P's do have the worst trigger out of the three, Glocks have the worst ergos, and the PPQ... well... they don't have the track record that Glocks have, yet (Give it ten more years). That is just my own personal preference. Also there is the FNX-9 and CZ-SP01 which are Awesome! Then there is the new HK VP9 which is almost as nice as the PPQ. XDM's are very accurate but still don't come close in my opinion. Sorry XDM guys I tried to like them but think they look uglier than a Glock on a Monday morning with a mean hangover.
Got a G19, Gen 4, which I love. Also have the Walther PPQ M2, which I REALLY love. I carry both, but tend to gravitate more to the Walther, even though it's a little snappier with the recoil. I also find I'm more accurate with the Walther, but that may be due to the XS sights on my G19 (going to change them to Ameriglo i-dot soon). I love the way the Walther feels in my hand, plus I think it just looks cooler too. Both triggers are unmodified. PPQ has the better trigger, but the G19's is pretty darn good too. Both have been 100% in reliability. Haven't had any experience shooting the M&P (except the Shield, which is a fantastic single stack and has a better trigger than the other M&Ps, but still not as good as Glock's). I do like the looks and the ergos of the M&P line though, but the beavertail (love handle poker) would be a deal breaker when it comes to carry. With you 100% on the XD's looks. Huge fan of CZ's, but I'd likely never carry one (beavertail thing again, plus don't like CC carrying hammer-fired guns...but do love shooting them). Not a big HK guy (think they're over-priced and have mediocre at best triggers). Although the VP9 is really intriguing and more reasonably priced.
One thing I noticed, with the "bad ergos" of glocks: Because it is boxier, my hand will just find the exact same grip easier than on the PPQ (or the HKP90 for example that also has the glove-like grip.) Ie if I'd have to point it blindfolded it would be a lot better with the glock. It might only cost a split second but still something to think about.
Personally I carry a Glock 17. Not out of choice but for work. Would prefer the 19 as is more conceal able off duty. I really like the reviews of the walther trigger. I shoot walther Olympic style target pistols and the triggers on those are fantastic. I haven't yet got to shoot the PPQ but I think my next 9mm will be a PPQ. Liking the video reviews here in the UK. Defend your 2nd amendment rights dont take for granted what others are trying to erode. You were given the rights by wise men with foresight. Onwards and upwards!
Great video. I keep saying those that haven't tried the trigger on a Walther PPQ are really missing out on something almost too good to be true in the gun world, what a fantastic trigger and trigger reset. I've also added a Glock Gen3 trigger bar to my Glock 19 Gen4. Getting rid of the "bump" on the trigger bar that's on the Gen4 and not on the Gen3 made a big difference in the Glock 19's trigger pull. Keep up the great work with your videos.
All three (plus the XD) series are tops in the polymer frame handguns...I own smiths and glocks...I like the XD line too...need to do more research on the PPQ's...looking to add 'another' gun to my collection...tks for the video...
I have gone round and round with the M&P, I absolutley cannot stand the trigger on it. I traded out of it and got the pro series and while it was better it was still not to my liking. I considered doing the apex trigger but considering what I paid for the gun then the additonal $160 bucks it was gonna cost for the tigger upgrade I decided to get rid of it. I went with the glock 19 which I am very happy with and IMO has a very good out of the box trigger. I am considering also getting the PPQ. Great review.
Thanks for your comments. Obviously I know nothing about fashion, just protecting myself from a very cold day on the range! Much appreciate you subscribing, Hope you'll check out some of the other vids on the channel.
Any of those are great guns, as is XDm's. PPQ's and XDm's triggers are very good, but in the end it comes down to developing a skill level on what one chooses. I pretty much go with 9mm in sub compact and .40 S&W in larger handguns. XDs 9mm and Glock 23 at this point. Interested in seeing if the the Walther CCP, works as advertised. As always, another great video. Very Good CZcams.
Agreed. I love my M&P and it's what I shoot the most. I could develop the same level of skill with any firearm if I wanted to. The vast majority of gun features come down to personal preference and training.
GPH I have two XDs... 4" full size 9 and subcompact 40... Love them both, just the subcompact 40 is a little too "snappy" for my taste... 40/45 are definitely better in full size guns... Sub compacts you just feel every bit of it
Have the Glock, PPQ, and no M&P. wouldn't mind having one though. Just picked up a SR40c last Saturday. Triggers great on it. I need to adjust the sights though.
what I LIKE about each...Glock-racking the slide requires little effort. M&P-the grip fits best. PPQ-the trigger. what I DON'T like about each, Glock - the shape of the trigger. M&P-the trigger pull. PPQ - the front of the trigger guard extends to far. these are all just my personal opinion.
onenikkione Are you from USA ? In my country almost no one has a gun usually the criminals have them, though mostly they also don't use guns. Last time I shot was in the army 6 years ago, Beretta 92. 😀
All three are great guns, you can't go wrong with any of them, and great video as usual. Now well, and not trying to be a troll but, the guy to the right seems to be in a parallel time line where everything is in slow motion, doesn't he? LoL
Was I'm the market for a 9mm shot all 3. All 3 are excellent pistols, I was the most accurate with the walther ppq so I went with that one. It was comfortable to hold and felt like a glove. It has the best ergonomics of the 3. The other 2 don't even come close to walthers trigger IMO But YRMV however
I own a PPQ and a Glock 17, but have never fired any S&W. I hate everything about the PPQ except the trigger. I think my Glock is the least favorite of my guns to shoot. That being said, my Glock is the pistol I shoot most accurately with and the one I keep next to me for home defense because I trust myself with it most.
Nice video! You're right about that PPQ trigger, it is wonderful right out of the box. I'm finally shooting my Glock with good accuracy, that grip angle requires a different technique than the PPQ's grip angle, in my opinion. Haven't tried the M&P 9mm yet, but I do have the Shield .40 and it has been very reliable. The PPQ has been 100% reliable for me and so has the Glock.
im glad to see that theres some people doing gun videos on the east coast I live in vermont and have just started doing little videos here and there but i think the Glock 19 is deff my favorite out of all of em maybe I'm biased because i own one lol but the walther and smith are great firearms as well i deff like the looks of the walther the best though thats a good looking gun! almost as good looking as a sig p226 ALMOST! lol
+Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC will do i have been subscribed for a couple weeks now i am trying to put a couple videos together myself but dont have any good camera equipment yet hopefully it leads somewhere if not thats fine to lol
GRRRRHHH... Awesome video as usual. I have two Glocks. A G22 (Home Defense Gun) and G23 (CCW Gun), both Gen 4s. I like how they shoot, but I'm really thinking about the idea of getting either a Glock 19 or an M &P 9mm. Thanks again for the video!
I have a quick question sir, is it a must or a huge job to have the polymer guide rod replaced for a metal/stainless steel rod on the Walther PPQ? I just picked up one, it's the Walther PPQ M2 with the standard mag release which doesn't matter to me though I prefer it over the the M1 style and I can safely say having shot pistols/rifles all my life that the PPQ certainly is high quality. I was going to get a used HK VP9, but it didn't feel right to me, and the PPQ is very similar in fact I believe HK copied the PPQ after it had much success.
I'm about to buy a stainless steel guide rod. Not hard at all to replace - I just did my Ruger SR22, where the polymer rod was actually causing smokestacks and other feed failures, even with CCI copper-plated bullets. Replacing the polymer rod on the Walther isn't a MUST - I firmly believe that as-built my PPQ M2 is perfectly combat/defense/action ready for 50K rounds or more. Not a single failure yet. But the steel rod will add some muzzle weight, and would probably last longer over time (although either rod could outlive me if the gun remains cared for). As for replacing it, mine comes with the spring so it's just a direct swap - take down the gun, remove poly rod/spring, insert steel rod/spring, reassemble. But believe me when I say I won't be throwing out the poly one. Just tuck it away, and probably even reinstall it every other range trip to ensure it's still working.
The only real problem with the Walther is the recoil. It kicks way too much on light grain ammo. You don't have this problem as much if you move to a higher grain, but it really irks me. I have the PPQ in .40 and it kicks like a mule unless I use 180 grain bullets. Using 165 it almost want to jump out of my hand.
I've got the 9mm, and even that is a touch snappier than many of the others I tried. But with 9mm it's not so bad, and I'm not a great representative because of my past weightlifting. Still, all of my friends who've tried it seem not to mind the snappy nature - in my eyes, it's other qualities more than compensate.
Great video and groups man. I have shot all but prefer to carry the Glock just because magazines are easier to acquire, factory parts are cheap and readily accessible, and if I am ever in a self defense situation its a Glock and I can get another one no problem.
Stock sights on PPQ and M&P.. and the G19 had aftermarket sights and a light attachment which adds weight to the muzzle.. come on man if you're going to do a comparison video, you have to go full stock.. that's what people are buying.. I could also be wrong but that Glock looked like it had aftermarket guide rod as well. I'm more of a Sig320 fan, but I'd go with PPQ out of the box..If you have to spend extra money to get same results of something stock, I don't know how that is a comparison..
I love my Walther but I have to admit, I shoot better with my friends MMP. But I am a Tanker in the Army and they just announced that we are switching to the Glock 19 (from the Berretta). I am not too thrilled about it but your vid makes me feel better about it now :)
+Jonas Hamilton The G19 is far easier to shoot, maintain and lighter to carry than the Beretta. Much better trigger IMHO and easier for most people to shoot well.
Maybe the real question is "what is it best for?" I could be wrong, but that light Walther trigger felt to me like it would be great for target shooting but I'd be nervous using it in a high tension, adrenaline dumping situation. Maybe too light. Good point, though. At a certain point all the bad ones have been weeded out and they will all do the job. Now it's a matter of what you are comfortable with. Much as I'd like to try the FNH FNS 9, I've already gone down the Smith M&P road so I don't want to get tangled up with a bunch of different magazines again. Recent improvements to the M&P (trigger and barrel) have really made them pretty usable for most people anyway. Do you think this new financial battle within the Glock family will hurt the company? Note to Gaston Glock: Don't be hiding money from the wife if you're going to dump her and the kids and piss her off!
Jake Lonergan Agree with you! Define the mission and application and then find the gun that works for you. The trigger on the PPQ is not a liability unless the user doesn't train and or lacks trigger discipline. Frankly if the user can't keep their finer off the trigger until they've mad a decision to shoot they need training....
I had double taps on the PPQ trigger in training. I know, I need to practice more, but it doesn't change the fact. Still I like the trigger a lot more than the MP's, but this could be only a personal preference.
Jake Lonergan Yup. I've gone down the M&P road as well and I'm looking to add an M&P 9c to the stable soon. I like training with one platform and becoming very proficient with it. zsiga09 FYI, in case you ever get into an actual shoot out, "double tap" is no longer the preferred terminology. "Controlled pair" infers that you intentionally fired two shots, whereas "double tap" can be ambiguous.
The thing with the PPQ trigger is that the takeup is long for a reason. Don't approach the break point until the decision is made - keep it in the soft takeup zone. The clean, crisp break is designed so that the user doesn't have to do it consciously - riding the sear is bad, you should just be able to smoothly "pull to pew" then reset.
They are really good guns, strike fire, polymer, modern pistols except the Glock witch don't need nothing to change since the original release in 1980 (Perfection)? except the plastic rod and sights. The only thing im disagree with the Glock is some aftermarket tweak is need and the price, cant be more expensive to an American made S&W, the Smith and Walther are absolutely fantastic out the box, My vote is for the Walther the ergos are amazing over the Smith and Glock and the trigger fantastic.
My glock 26 is the fat wife that gets along with the family members (17 and 19) while the Walther PPQ M2 Navy SD is the hot side chick I enjoy spending time with on a regular basis.
I have A glock 19 and 26, and an M&P 40c. I love them both. I have been looking to add the PPQ based on what I have heard about the trigger for a while, but they are virtually impossible to come by here in CT.
I agree, it’s a very fine pistol and the people that own them and train with them always share their appreciation with others. Thanks for watching commenting I hope you will subscribe to the channel and check out some of our other content.
I think the Walther is a great product. You could add all the additions to the Walter, and have an outstanding pistol. The bore axis is just a bit too high for me personally. Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you will subscribe to the channel
Great video... There are many brands that I like, but due my consolidation over the years I am pretty much all Glock and M&P. I do miss the variety sometimes... Videos like this don't help my cause, lol...
Thanks. I liked what I saw. It's what I didn't see... I would like your perspective of each gun's pros and cons. That would be instructive to help with my next purchase.
Do you do anything with the M&P triggers? IMO the M&P has the most detestable trigger of any polymer pistol that I've ever shot. Besides that crappy trigger I love everything about the M&P I've been looking at the Apex options
Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree the Walther PPQ is a fine pistol. Having put tens of thousands of rounds through both MPs and Glocks, I can attest to the fact that they are accurate, reliable, and also worth consideration. In my case, I found the ergonomically of the Smith and Wesson to be optimal for my hands. But the bottom line is whatever pistol is selected regardless of brand, it’s in coming upon the operator to maximize their proficiency through training and practice. Hope you’ll subscribe.
Holy shit what a shot you are. I got to take one of the pistol classes you offer. Im a NH boy too. I notice you keep your eyes open witch is Great yet I cant get it yet. The common person might think what you are doing is easy but NO WAY. This type of shooting is years and 10000000s of rounds. Any information on some classes for this summer??? Thank you sir.
+LiveFreeOrRIP Our class schedule is posted on our website www.on-target-training.net . Handgun classes on March 13 in RI and April in NH. I'd suggest you attend our level 1 defensive pistol class. April 3rd in Dublin NH.
Prob should've edited out the part where you were shooting with out "eye pro" eye protection! Also would've been better to discuss the pros and cons of each model!
I would like and subscribe if you actually picked a winner for you at the end you said what one felt even a little better. Everyone says they are all good and we all know that. We watch comparisons to see what makes a firearm right for you. We can store that information and decide if it's going to all add up to something viewers would ultimately spend their money on.
Sir, thank you for watching and for sharing your comments. The reality is fit and feel of a handgun is subjective. The "best" is determined by the user based on his ability to hit the target with speed and accuracy. All three of the guns demonstrated in this video would serve you well... but if you shot them side by side you'd likely find one the was "better" for you than the others. I hope we will earn your subscription on the next video!
but thats my point. we all know that. we want to hear what you like best o better over one or the other. thats why we tune in, to hear you're detailed and informed opinion on each.
good video but I'm interested in knowing about the camera you have attached to your hearing protection,bet you can get some good 1st person views & angles
How do you think the M&P with the Apex forward set trigger set compares with the PPQ? I know you decided to go back with the factory M&P set up after trying the Apex but not sure I ever heard why?
I'd go with the walther ppq all day
PPQ is one great pistol for sure!
why ? 100% cocked striker , making it feel like a single action trigger ??
Love my Walther PPQ. Phenomenal trigger and supermodel good looks.
Still holds up as one of the best looking, and best shooting
I also am a 9mm PPQ M2 daily carrier. But i do think the MP9 looks better
I decided to buy the Walther PPQ because of the awesome trigger. For me this is the big difference of all the good and durable striker fire polymer guns.
I Love my PPQ ! I tried them all just fits me like a glove. The trigger is perfect!
Walther PPQ for me!
I own the M&P and PPQ. The PPQ for me is a totally better firearm in pretty much every way.
I've owned the G19 as well however I'm not the biggest fan of the Glock feel.
How so?
How is the PPQ better than the M&P? First off I've owned the Pro 5" M&P, the 4.25" FS and the Shield. Bought all of them new, the PPQ, has every single one outclassed in ergonomics, it's perfect fit for my hand, style, fit and finish is better and shooting, while all are good shooters the PPQ'S trigger is what sets it apart from any M&P listed above, although the take up is quite a bit, the pull it's self is light and has a a crisp break and short reset.
Since writing my original statement I've purchased a G21, because I wanted a good .45 acp, the Glock trigger and ergos leave much to be desired however it's a good weapon in the same way that a civic is a good car. It does all the things you want but is great at nothing.
+Carlos Finch Im not a big fan of Glock handguns. And no I dont even own one. Iv held them and they didnt feel to bad. But I never hear or see anything good with them unless it is a Gen 3 or older. I love my M&P but that is just a opinion. I dont own a Ppq but plan to buy a Pk380 for my wife. I think Smith&Wesson makes the PPQ though...Maybe they make a different model for Walther. I cant remember right lol
Personally, the PPQ made me realize just how much I disliked the M&P that I USED to own. Ergonomics are wonderful, and that trigger is sweet.
Smith had a contract years ago with Walther for assembly here in the States but that has since been rescinded. All Walthers are made in Germany these days.
Walther all the way!!!
I only own 1 handgun I bought almost 2 years ago . A Walther PPQ 9 mm. I love it ! My friends who try it love it ! Thanks for the review . 😀🚑🚨🚑
Ppq is in another class, should be comparing to h&k, Sig Sauer,
Sig an HK are great over priced pistols. What I hear is HK is going bankrupt, maybe do to their high prices. They have priced there selves out of the market.
Good Wood in that case I'd take a vp9 over the ppq, nothing beats a sig lol
But have u ever shot one.
SIG? That's funny. My Sig 320 sits safely in my safe where it can't kill me.
@@tltsw to be fair you have to spend a couple hundred dollars to make a glock comparable to an HK . Apex trigger job, night sights
Walther any day all day
you didn't give any opinion of which is best. you shot them and said, "they're all great"
Thanks for watching and commenting. Actually I felt all three pistols were excellent. The term best is subjective and ultimately each user needs to define what their needs are and what is best for them. Stay safe.
+kmclem I think the only objective conclusion that can be made here is that the Walther has the best trigger.
+Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC So in a case where all are fairly equal then price would be the deciding factor. I think the PPQ would be the most expensive, followed by the Glock 19, and then the M&P. But with that being said the trigger and sights on the PPQ are pretty solid and wouldn't need replaced by aftermarket kits. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
+Brat Meister agree
+Ghos7N54 agreed. the problem is that this video is click bait to advertise that he's going to display which gun is best and then comes to no conclusion.
You guys are so fortunate. I live pretty much where those walthers r being manufactured. And I had to pay about 1k€ for mine.
Life is so unfair :)
Of the three, I shoot the PPQ best, next a modified M&P (Apex DAEK, DPM recoil assb.) and last the Glock. The Glock is easiest to find parts for and accessories for, and easiest to work on.
Great video, all three are awesome guns. PPQ is really awesome and I believe it is the new glock 19, or at least should be. Good shooting.
So basically, the better of the three guns is the one that's on your hip and ready to shoot.
The "best" gun is the one that fits your hand best, feels best to shoot, and is the one you like the best. Lots of "best" guns out there.
I say this all the time. I'm a PPQ owner and a Walther fanboy, but if the SHTF and all I had was a Glock, I'd still be happy. We're at a point in time where the differences between these guns comes down to ergos, and barely a blonde one's difference in all the other characteristics. I definitely encourage people to give the PPQ a try, run a box through one at the range and see how they like it, but I always tell a person to buy what they shoot best unless there is a compelling reason (like cost or added safety features) to buy something different. Just as long as they shoot it pretty well, and can improve their skills with some trigger time.
Thanks to your video I found my next addition to my collection ( Walther PPQ M2 )
I like the PPQ's trigger so much, I bought two! One is none ........ :-)
+Sig229DAK I also have two. The 5" barrel model and the 4" model. The 5" is my range and home defense, the 4" will go with me when I get my CCP.
Big walther fan here.
Sig...I confess, I also have 2 Walters also (PPS/PPQ M2's)
@@jsc5590 Hell dude, if I found a steal on a SIG when I went shopping, I'd have bought one. I picked the PPQ deliberately, but just about every polymer 9mm I test fired (1 box thru each, then another box through my favorites, then one more box thru my Top 3) was more than adequate. But if the PPQ had been more expensive, I probably would have settled for my 2nd or 3rd fav - SIG 320 and VP9, especially if I found a good deal.
Andrew, another confession...I sold my PPQ M2 (still have the PPS M2), for a Sig Sauer P365...and couldn't be happier! Those Germans really know how to make great firearms:) Best, JC
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Gotta get me a PPQ M2! I'm thinking the 5" model.
I bought the 5" ppq and in 2 weeks traded it for the 4" ppq m2..If I had to, I could concealed carry the 4" but not the 5"...
I already know, it's the PPQ.
Its nice to hear some one who isn't biased towards only what they carry. Too many people are so attached to one brand that they don't realize or want to admit that most of the modern polymer (not all) handguns manufactured today will serve well.
The PPQ has the best ergos that I've felt on a pistol yet, especially the grip. I don't know why every company doesn't just copy the shape.
Yes it has good ergos but I think the M&P does as well. As far as handguns I'm agnostic on brand, model or type. The user should use what they feel fits their hand best.
@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC I tried out an M&P, wanted to love it, intended on bringing one home. Felt amazing, good trigger on the 2.0, but shot low every time, couldn't figure it out. Shame though cause it felt amazing and it's a great gun.
The Walther has the best trigger hands down.
The trigger is excellent.
He usado las tres, me quedo con la PPQ por el gatillo
Walther is the best cuz it's what James Bond has.
Just came across this video because I'm in the market for another life time partner. Like what I saw you did keep it even except that the Glock had a light on it helping it by adding weight to the front keeping its recoil down. The PPQ and the M&P did great on their own without the extra weight. I like the way the PPQ feels in my hand. Make it a match up made to keep me out of heaven and in Hell a little Longer. Edited for spelling, have to watch out for the spelling trolls.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good point on the light, I should have removed that. The PPQ is a great pistol.
Over the past couple of years I taught several hundred students at a variety of skill levels. In NH and RI the primary guns folks are shooting in our classes are Glocks, M&Ps, and Sig P320s. Only one guy in an intermediate defensive handgun class, shot the PPQ. It had no issues at all and we shot about 650 rounds that day.
Top trainers like Vickers, Proctor, Travis Haley and Costa seem to mostly shoot the Glock 19. Since the PPQ is such a nice pistol I have been surprised that I don't see it used more. Aside from its high bore axis the trigger is exceptional and it has good ergonomics. I do have the say the Gen 5 G19 and the M&P 2.0 Compact would be at the top of my list if I were getting additional pistols.
Check back and let me know how the PPQ does for you. All the best and stay safe.
I’ve owned just about every M&P pistol( Huge Fan) . M&P Pro 9 with RMR threaded- soon to be suppressor . M&P 2.0 ,40 with carver comp lmk barrel and lazer . The best stock is m&p 2.0 9MM . One of the best guns I’ve shot , I’ve owned PPQ q5 , it was ok . PPQ M1 - I absolute love it , my everyday carry .Glock- egh G19 just felt like a throw away , so bland and pretty good shot. I jog with a Sig p365 , pretty good body shots shit grouping at 60 yards.
Thanks for your comments and insight!
Best is the you own of course. I have a PPQ and 3 XDs and a couple of Berettas. 2 of my XDs are compacts and are my regular day, concealed carries. Also have a good IWB holster for my PPQ. Its concealable as well.
Thanks for commenting!
The "best" is very subjective and based upon ones tendencies to like a particular feature of one manufacturer over another. If I were given any of these pistols and told I could only use that from here on out then I would develop familiarity and expertise on that particular firearm.
That being said, I have practiced with all three of these and I gravitated toward the Walther PPQ as the one I would choose, if given a choice. I absolutely love the trigger and I think the ergos are better than the other two. But I would be content with any of them.
Sir, very well said! You are 100% on target. Best is subjective. Thanks for commenting.
Wish there were more aftermarket for the PPQ M2 5", I feel it is frankly the best one out there in it's class and is terribly underrepresented. I like the video but I would like to of had a bit more info on your take about what it was specifically you liked and disliked about each gun.
+Robnting Tie Good insight. The challenge for me is I like all of them. My comments pro or con are subjective however. So what might not work for me would work for you. Agree with your comments about after market parts and cost of additional mags for the pistol. One reason why I like the Glocks and M&Ps is the fact there are so many options for upgrades.
+Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC
Still would like your input, I think we can agree everyone's opinion is subjective but none the less important for the most part. I do think at the price point this platform comes at, it would not be too much to ask for metal night sights as a standard. My only hang-up about this weapon as shipped. Again I love the video, short and sweet with out slant. My only input is the weapons should be compared in the stock configuration from the manufacturer. As in no light for your Glock, albeit a sexy light :) Keep up the outstanding work sir.
+Cody Osborn Are there Adjustable sight Sets for Windage and Elevation for the PPQ ?
Honestly, it comes down to shooting the guns. I picked the PPQ but honestly would have settled for my 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th favorite and not lost a moment of sleep. I got lucky, there is a nearby gun range that stocks dozens of modern pistols as rentals, so I tested about 10 or 12, then retested my top 6, then my top 3. 2nd in line for me was Sig 320, 3rd was VP9, but the Walther PPQ won the day. Trigger, ergos (love the slide release feel, and that it's ambi), and looks put it over the others. And I'm fairly new to handguns, but honestly I shot every single one I tested very very well - to the point that I shot my Top 6's just about identically. In fact, by the time it got to my Top 3 testing, I was factoring in how well my Wife shot them, because if I'm not home and the door busts in, she's the one behind the sights. PPQ won the day, but the margins were slim.
I've seen enough people shoot all these guns with ridiculous accuracy that it is clear that the choice is subjective based on the person's preferences. For me its the PPQ all day. The nice trigger just helps me shoot better.
I like this video because its about as simple as a polymer 9mm comparison needs to be. At the end of the day, you can make a video about how you prefer either one, but the next shooter will disagree. These three including the VP9 are all going to be a great purchase, no matter how you slice it.
Love the PPQ ; )
Great video. Looks like you can't go wrong with any of them.
Agree!
Modern manufacturing has made all these pistols great and each is unique in their own way. Now a days, it's just a matter of personal preference as to which pistol is better. I'm bias, and I just have to go with German or Austrian made pistols, such as, the Walther PPQ M2 5" or the new Steyr L9 A-1. IMO. ;)
I own PPQ and it is has a great trigger which gives you Accuracy.
Sir, thanks for watching. I agree with you the PPQ trigger is exceptional. Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope you will subscribe to the channel.
The grouping looked better on the Glock and M&P then the PPQ but the ergonomics on the Walther is great. I am looking to buy a hand gun but can't decide if I want a striker fired gun or a double/single action.
I have an M&P, Walther was more accurate for me, in this Covid BS, I wish I had a G19- more parts are (somewhat) available.
They're all good pistols!
I was able to find the last PPQ in town, absolutely love it
I want to buy the Walther, but that magazine release button, or whatever that it is called, could be the deal breaker! I love my Glock 19 and 17; both are so easy to master, considering I come from the Marine Corps and the 1911 A1 world. Very nice video, and terrific shooting!
He listed the Walther in the title first for a reason. ☝️
The walther is a fine pistol.
I had all three, the m1 ppq was a great gun but I couldn't or didn't want to overcome the high bore axis and the limited sight option. Loved the trigger, mag release and ergonomics though. Great video!
The Walther P99 AS is still the best of any of them with different trigger options for different shooters, decocker option and still has the ergonomics of a Walther. In my opinion anyway having owned and shot all three of these and many others.
Almost purchased an m&p 9mm but waited. I picked up an m&p shield 9mm instead and it's nice. I just happened to trade for a used 19 gen 3. There had to have been only one round through it. When I got home I looked up the production date and it was 2006..... A safe queen???? Anyway, I drive tacs with that thing. I love my 19 gen 3. Next is a CZ P01 9mm and then maybe the PPQ. The m&p just isn't for me at this point. Didn't really like the feel for my hands. Maybe I will try again someday. Good video. Nice shooting.
I am new to pistols, just got my first one - a Glock 19 Gen 3. LOVE IT!!! But I was also wondering how the others fared and this was a great insight. Someday when I decide to buy my second pistol I will probably settle on one of these. Thanks for sharing.
These three are also my favorite striker-fired polymer handguns in 9mm!
All three have their + & - 's and it just comes down to personal preference.
For me it is the PPQ. I own a M&P9c and a Walther PPQ M2 Navy. I have a few friends that own Glock 17's and 19's and love them. M&P's do have the worst trigger out of the three, Glocks have the worst ergos, and the PPQ... well... they don't have the track record that Glocks have, yet (Give it ten more years). That is just my own personal preference. Also there is the FNX-9 and CZ-SP01 which are Awesome! Then there is the new HK VP9 which is almost as nice as the PPQ. XDM's are very accurate but still don't come close in my opinion. Sorry XDM guys I tried to like them but think they look uglier than a Glock on a Monday morning with a mean hangover.
Got a G19, Gen 4, which I love. Also have the Walther PPQ M2, which I REALLY love. I carry both, but tend to gravitate more to the Walther, even though it's a little snappier with the recoil. I also find I'm more accurate with the Walther, but that may be due to the XS sights on my G19 (going to change them to Ameriglo i-dot soon). I love the way the Walther feels in my hand, plus I think it just looks cooler too. Both triggers are unmodified. PPQ has the better trigger, but the G19's is pretty darn good too. Both have been 100% in reliability. Haven't had any experience shooting the M&P (except the Shield, which is a fantastic single stack and has a better trigger than the other M&Ps, but still not as good as Glock's). I do like the looks and the ergos of the M&P line though, but the beavertail (love handle poker) would be a deal breaker when it comes to carry. With you 100% on the XD's looks. Huge fan of CZ's, but I'd likely never carry one (beavertail thing again, plus don't like CC carrying hammer-fired guns...but do love shooting them). Not a big HK guy (think they're over-priced and have mediocre at best triggers). Although the VP9 is really intriguing and more reasonably priced.
One thing I noticed, with the "bad ergos" of glocks: Because it is boxier, my hand will just find the exact same grip easier than on the PPQ (or the HKP90 for example that also has the glove-like grip.) Ie if I'd have to point it blindfolded it would be a lot better with the glock. It might only cost a split second but still something to think about.
The M&P is such a bad ass looking pistol.
Personally I carry a Glock 17. Not out of choice but for work. Would prefer the 19 as is more conceal able off duty. I really like the reviews of the walther trigger. I shoot walther Olympic style target pistols and the triggers on those are fantastic. I haven't yet got to shoot the PPQ but I think my next 9mm will be a PPQ. Liking the video reviews here in the UK. Defend your 2nd amendment rights dont take for granted what others are trying to erode. You were given the rights by wise men with foresight. Onwards and upwards!
Love the G17. Great gun and one of my favorites. I own a couple G17s and think they are wonderful...Thanks for watching
Yeah, 17 is a big gun. Fun to shoot, feels like your in a competition.. But for carry its definitely 19 and smaller for me!
You'll love the PPQ. I shot it better than I shot either the 17 or 19, but in a dire situation I'd feel comfortable with any of the 3.
Great video. I keep saying those that haven't tried the trigger on a Walther PPQ are really missing out on something almost too good to be true in the gun world, what a fantastic trigger and trigger reset. I've also added a Glock Gen3 trigger bar to my Glock 19 Gen4. Getting rid of the "bump" on the trigger bar that's on the Gen4 and not on the Gen3 made a big difference in the Glock 19's trigger pull. Keep up the great work with your videos.
Nice quick run-down on the three pistols. Nice groups for all three also!
All three (plus the XD) series are tops in the polymer frame handguns...I own smiths and glocks...I like the XD line too...need to do more research on the PPQ's...looking to add 'another' gun to my collection...tks for the video...
Add the sig 320 to the list
Been wanting a glock 17 forever but chose the m&p9 fs no thumb safety haven't went shooting hope I'm not disappointed
Got all three. All are excellent.
Did the Glock's light give it an advantage having a little more weight at the muzzle to reduce recoil?
Forum and Brim and the upgraded spring
I have gone round and round with the M&P, I absolutley cannot stand the trigger on it. I traded out of it and got the pro series and while it was better it was still not to my liking. I considered doing the apex trigger but considering what I paid for the gun then the additonal $160 bucks it was gonna cost for the tigger upgrade I decided to get rid of it. I went with the glock 19 which I am very happy with and IMO has a very good out of the box trigger. I am considering also getting the PPQ. Great review.
MrWicked98 I'm w/ ya on the junk trigger on the M&P. Their c-sat manager was a jerk about it too. Doubt I'll buy another.
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Thanks for your comments. Obviously I know nothing about fashion, just protecting myself from a very cold day on the range! Much appreciate you subscribing, Hope you'll check out some of the other vids on the channel.
Any of those are great guns, as is XDm's. PPQ's and XDm's triggers are very good, but in the end it comes down to developing a skill level on what one chooses. I pretty much go with 9mm in sub compact and .40 S&W in larger handguns. XDs 9mm and Glock 23 at this point. Interested in seeing if the the Walther CCP, works as advertised. As always, another great video. Very Good CZcams.
You got it. With the selection available it's hard to go wrong with any of the brand name manufacturers.
Agreed. I love my M&P and it's what I shoot the most. I could develop the same level of skill with any firearm if I wanted to. The vast majority of gun features come down to personal preference and training.
+GPH Upgraded my XDM 45 with prp trigger and boy it feels like a 1911 for me.
GPH I have two XDs... 4" full size 9 and subcompact 40... Love them both, just the subcompact 40 is a little too "snappy" for my taste... 40/45 are definitely better in full size guns... Sub compacts you just feel every bit of it
Have the Glock, PPQ, and no M&P. wouldn't mind having one though. Just picked up a SR40c last Saturday. Triggers great on it. I need to adjust the sights though.
what I LIKE about each...Glock-racking the slide requires little effort. M&P-the grip fits best. PPQ-the trigger. what I DON'T like about each, Glock - the shape of the trigger. M&P-the trigger pull. PPQ - the front of the trigger guard extends to far. these are all just my personal opinion.
onenikkione Are you from USA ? In my country almost no one has a gun usually the criminals have them, though mostly they also don't use guns. Last time I shot was in the army 6 years ago, Beretta 92. 😀
Yep I live in America
All three are great guns, you can't go wrong with any of them, and great video as usual. Now well, and not trying to be a troll but, the guy to the right seems to be in a parallel time line where everything is in slow motion, doesn't he? LoL
Was I'm the market for a 9mm shot all 3. All 3 are excellent pistols, I was the most accurate with the walther ppq so I went with that one. It was comfortable to hold and felt like a glove. It has the best ergonomics of the 3. The other 2 don't even come close to walthers trigger IMO But YRMV however
Good choice. Enjoy!
Good groups. It's true that if you do your job behind the trigger then the gun will do it's.
I own a PPQ and a Glock 17, but have never fired any S&W. I hate everything about the PPQ except the trigger. I think my Glock is the least favorite of my guns to shoot. That being said, my Glock is the pistol I shoot most accurately with and the one I keep next to me for home defense because I trust myself with it most.
Nice video! You're right about that PPQ trigger, it is wonderful right out of the box. I'm finally shooting my Glock with good accuracy, that grip angle requires a different technique than the PPQ's grip angle, in my opinion. Haven't tried the M&P 9mm yet, but I do have the Shield .40 and it has been very reliable. The PPQ has been 100% reliable for me and so has the Glock.
All are great choices!
im glad to see that theres some people doing gun videos on the east coast I live in vermont and have just started doing little videos here and there but i think the Glock 19 is deff my favorite out of all of em maybe I'm biased because i own one lol but the walther and smith are great firearms as well i deff like the looks of the walther the best though thats a good looking gun! almost as good looking as a sig p226 ALMOST! lol
+Killabee-23 Thanks for watching! Please check out the other vids on the channel.
+Guns, Gear & On Target Training, LLC will do i have been subscribed for a couple weeks now i am trying to put a couple videos together myself but dont have any good camera equipment yet hopefully it leads somewhere if not thats fine to lol
GRRRRHHH... Awesome video as usual. I have two Glocks. A G22 (Home Defense Gun) and G23 (CCW Gun), both Gen 4s. I like how they shoot, but I'm really thinking about the idea of getting either a Glock 19 or an M &P 9mm. Thanks again for the video!
You'd enjoy both... however, given that you're currently using the Glock platform I'd suggest a G19.Thanks for watching
Give the PPQ a try.
I have a quick question sir, is it a must or a huge job to have the polymer guide rod replaced for a metal/stainless steel rod on the Walther PPQ? I just picked up one, it's the Walther PPQ M2 with the standard mag release which doesn't matter to me though I prefer it over the the M1 style and I can safely say having shot pistols/rifles all my life that the PPQ certainly is high quality. I was going to get a used HK VP9, but it didn't feel right to me, and the PPQ is very similar in fact I believe HK copied the PPQ after it had much success.
I'm about to buy a stainless steel guide rod. Not hard at all to replace - I just did my Ruger SR22, where the polymer rod was actually causing smokestacks and other feed failures, even with CCI copper-plated bullets. Replacing the polymer rod on the Walther isn't a MUST - I firmly believe that as-built my PPQ M2 is perfectly combat/defense/action ready for 50K rounds or more. Not a single failure yet. But the steel rod will add some muzzle weight, and would probably last longer over time (although either rod could outlive me if the gun remains cared for). As for replacing it, mine comes with the spring so it's just a direct swap - take down the gun, remove poly rod/spring, insert steel rod/spring, reassemble. But believe me when I say I won't be throwing out the poly one. Just tuck it away, and probably even reinstall it every other range trip to ensure it's still working.
The only real problem with the Walther is the recoil. It kicks way too much on light grain ammo. You don't have this problem as much if you move to a higher grain, but it really irks me. I have the PPQ in .40 and it kicks like a mule unless I use 180 grain bullets. Using 165 it almost want to jump out of my hand.
That's due to the higher bore axis. I think this set up works betters with 9mm than 40 S&W.
I've got the 9mm, and even that is a touch snappier than many of the others I tried. But with 9mm it's not so bad, and I'm not a great representative because of my past weightlifting. Still, all of my friends who've tried it seem not to mind the snappy nature - in my eyes, it's other qualities more than compensate.
I guess it boils down to which pistol fits your hand the best? I got to hold a PPQ at the outdoor show at Harrisburg, PA... nice pistol
Great video and groups man. I have shot all but prefer to carry the Glock just because magazines are easier to acquire, factory parts are cheap and readily accessible, and if I am ever in a self defense situation its a Glock and I can get another one no problem.
Take the flashlight off the glock or pop it in each pistol before you compare. Its extra weight to manage recoil
Agree thats a great point. I should have done that.
Stock sights on PPQ and M&P.. and the G19 had aftermarket sights and a light attachment which adds weight to the muzzle.. come on man if you're going to do a comparison video, you have to go full stock.. that's what people are buying.. I could also be wrong but that Glock looked like it had aftermarket guide rod as well. I'm more of a Sig320 fan, but I'd go with PPQ out of the box..If you have to spend extra money to get same results of something stock, I don't know how that is a comparison..
Totally agree. A Glock is the $600 pistol in the display case that you have to spend another $600 on to shoot like the $600 pistol next to it.
I love my Walther but I have to admit, I shoot better with my friends MMP. But I am a Tanker in the Army and they just announced that we are switching to the Glock 19 (from the Berretta). I am not too thrilled about it but your vid makes me feel better about it now :)
+Jonas Hamilton The G19 is far easier to shoot, maintain and lighter to carry than the Beretta. Much better trigger IMHO and easier for most people to shoot well.
I hope so. I hate the Beretta. It's very end heavy. I am just not a huge fan of the Glock grip. I am sure it will be better once I get used to it.
Not a big fan of the light rails, that's why I go with the gen 2 g19 perfect for me.
I own a Glock Gen 2 19. One of my favorites!
Maybe the real question is "what is it best for?" I could be wrong, but that light Walther trigger felt to me like it would be great for target shooting but I'd be nervous using it in a high tension, adrenaline dumping situation. Maybe too light. Good point, though. At a certain point all the bad ones have been weeded out and they will all do the job. Now it's a matter of what you are comfortable with. Much as I'd like to try the FNH FNS 9, I've already gone down the Smith M&P road so I don't want to get tangled up with a bunch of different magazines again. Recent improvements to the M&P (trigger and barrel) have really made them pretty usable for most people anyway. Do you think this new financial battle within the Glock family will hurt the company? Note to Gaston Glock: Don't be hiding money from the wife if you're going to dump her and the kids and piss her off!
Jake Lonergan Agree with you! Define the mission and application and then find the gun that works for you. The trigger on the PPQ is not a liability unless the user doesn't train and or lacks trigger discipline. Frankly if the user can't keep their finer off the trigger until they've mad a decision to shoot they need training....
I had double taps on the PPQ trigger in training. I know, I need to practice more, but it doesn't change the fact. Still I like the trigger a lot more than the MP's, but this could be only a personal preference.
Jake Lonergan Yup. I've gone down the M&P road as well and I'm looking to add an M&P 9c to the stable soon. I like training with one platform and becoming very proficient with it.
zsiga09 FYI, in case you ever get into an actual shoot out, "double tap" is no longer the preferred terminology. "Controlled pair" infers that you intentionally fired two shots, whereas "double tap" can be ambiguous.
unitedgray Implies, not "infers."
The thing with the PPQ trigger is that the takeup is long for a reason. Don't approach the break point until the decision is made - keep it in the soft takeup zone. The clean, crisp break is designed so that the user doesn't have to do it consciously - riding the sear is bad, you should just be able to smoothly "pull to pew" then reset.
All of them are good
I don’t care how the gun feels in my hands long as it works good and it’s not like I wear like a glove
Thank you for making videos. Love the channel. I have a PPQ that I haven't shot yet and all I hear it has more felt recoil than a Glock 19 or M&P 9.
A bit more snap (muzzle flip) due to the higher bore axis. But that is subjective. Best out of the box trigger of any gun I have used.
Holy **** look at the guy in the background. Pvt. Pyle lives!!!
They are really good guns, strike fire, polymer, modern pistols except the Glock witch don't need nothing to change since the original release in 1980 (Perfection)? except the plastic rod and sights.
The only thing im disagree with the Glock is some aftermarket tweak is need and the price, cant be more expensive to an American made S&W, the Smith and Walther are absolutely fantastic out the box, My vote is for the Walther the ergos are amazing over the Smith and Glock and the trigger fantastic.
Never shot the ppq..But have the other 2.Rock on M&P!
All are great firearms and you my friend have a steady hand. Great video keep them coming.
My glock 26 is the fat wife that gets along with the family members (17
and 19) while the Walther PPQ M2 Navy SD is the hot side chick I enjoy
spending time with on a regular basis.
MP2 or 1.0 Sheild, the best carry for the money.
I have A glock 19 and 26, and an M&P 40c. I love them both. I have been looking to add the PPQ based on what I have heard about the trigger for a while, but they are virtually impossible to come by here in CT.
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I ended up finding one a couple months ago. Got an m1 version in .40. It kicks ass!
The walther my man the walther is the best am a huge fan of the walther
I agree, it’s a very fine pistol and the people that own them and train with them always share their appreciation with others. Thanks for watching commenting I hope you will subscribe to the channel and check out some of our other content.
His G19 has a steel guide rod upgrade and the S&W sights are upgraded while the PPQ is stock. Tells me the PPQ is the one!
I think the Walther is a great product. You could add all the additions to the Walter, and have an outstanding pistol. The bore axis is just a bit too high for me personally.
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Great video... There are many brands that I like, but due my consolidation over the years I am pretty much all Glock and M&P. I do miss the variety sometimes... Videos like this don't help my cause, lol...
Sort of where I am at too... Glocks and M&Ps. Sig is introducing a striker fired gun in 2014... that could be a real hot one!
Thanks. I liked what I saw. It's what I didn't see... I would like your perspective of each gun's pros and cons. That would be instructive to help with my next purchase.
Do you do anything with the M&P triggers? IMO the M&P has the most detestable trigger of any polymer pistol that I've ever shot. Besides that crappy trigger I love everything about the M&P I've been looking at the Apex options
My pick would be Walther PPQ for it's quality, accuracy and ergonomic, second choice would be the Glock 19 and I think I am done with my rating.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I agree the Walther PPQ is a fine pistol. Having put tens of thousands of rounds through both MPs and Glocks, I can attest to the fact that they are accurate, reliable, and also worth consideration.
In my case, I found the ergonomically of the Smith and Wesson to be optimal for my hands. But the bottom line is whatever pistol is selected regardless of brand, it’s in coming upon the operator to maximize their proficiency through training and practice.
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Love the Glocks and S&W's, PPQ is on the short list for sure! Nice video, my friend! Just subbed! :)
Holy shit what a shot you are. I got to take one of the pistol classes you offer. Im a NH boy too. I notice you keep your eyes open witch is Great yet I cant get it yet. The common person might think what you are doing is easy but NO WAY. This type of shooting is years and 10000000s of rounds. Any information on some classes for this summer??? Thank you sir.
+LiveFreeOrRIP Our class schedule is posted on our website www.on-target-training.net . Handgun classes on March 13 in RI and April in NH. I'd suggest you attend our level 1 defensive pistol class. April 3rd in Dublin NH.
Prob should've edited out the part where you were shooting with out "eye pro" eye protection! Also would've been better to discuss the pros and cons of each model!
Gotta like that trivver - TRIGGER.
I would like and subscribe if you actually picked a winner for you at the end you said what one felt even a little better. Everyone says they are all good and we all know that. We watch comparisons to see what makes a firearm right for you. We can store that information and decide if it's going to all add up to something viewers would ultimately spend their money on.
Sir, thank you for watching and for sharing your comments. The reality is fit and feel of a handgun is subjective. The "best" is determined by the user based on his ability to hit the target with speed and accuracy. All three of the guns demonstrated in this video would serve you well... but if you shot them side by side you'd likely find one the was "better" for you than the others. I hope we will earn your subscription on the next video!
but thats my point. we all know that. we want to hear what you like best o better over one or the other. thats why we tune in, to hear you're detailed and informed opinion on each.
good video but I'm interested in knowing about the camera you have attached to your hearing protection,bet you can get some good 1st person views & angles
Were you with the other gentleman there? People act funny sometimes when im recording, he was crackin a smile or two haha.
How do you think the M&P with the Apex forward set trigger set compares with the PPQ? I know you decided to go back with the factory M&P set up after trying the Apex but not sure I ever heard why?
I'll stick with my PPQ, but I wouldn't mind having all 3
PPQ is a great choice.