Glock 19 Gen 4 vs Walther PPQ
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- Please enjoy our comparison between 2 great 9mm handguns. Both of these are perfect for Concealed Carry or Home Defense. Being small enough to comfortably carry but large enough to enjoy at the range, they make a good choice for a 1st gun or an addition to your collection.
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Walther PPQ: • Walther PPQ (M2) Navy
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I own both, PPQ hands down.
Terry Baird same. Got both plus Sig p320. PPQ all day long
@Young Black Conservative the PPQ has much better ergonomics. Feels phenomenal in the hand and points very naturally. Also the trigger is the best of any polymer handgun. Incredibly accurate and just as reliable as the Glock
@@rubyvroom94 probably one of the few weapons that actually has a higher reliability track record than the Glock.
My man
PPQ all day everyday
Just bout a glock 19 gen 4. Now I'm gonna save and get the PPQ M2 9mm. A man can never have enough guns. It's like a women with shoes and purses lol.
Bought the Glock... Later got the PPQ... Sold the Glock... the end.
I did that in reverse, shot the ppq, hk, sig p320, bought the Glock. Not as good a trigger but I wasn't looking for a target gun.
That's a cool story, bro! There's a reason the German police don't carry the PPQ, though.
Gene Cardwell really? What's that reason then?
Jeremy Granados the trigger is too light, so it is reported.
Gene Cardwell keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to use it, don't have to worry about it going off too soon.
If the Glock 19 is 'the wife'....dependable, reliable, stable, partner for life, etc.....the PPQ is like her younger, hotter and more adventurous cousin who kisses better.
Too funny!!! Well put Sir!
Right!! The Glock is the wife and the Walther is the side chick!! lmao!!
Glock 19 bends at the knees. PPQ bends at the hips...
Ive had a ppq m2 9 for a few years. Love it. never had any issues
Totally agree, love my Glocks but the PPQ is the king of all (stock) striker triggers.
is the PPQ has lighter trigger pull compare to Glocks?
gutadin5 the ppq trigger is better then some zev triggers that should tell you something.
The PPQ trigger makes it a no brainers. At the range, when you're seeing exactly how short the reset is, it's not uncommon to get an "unintentional" double tap.
Always makes me smile.
I’ve had glocks, m&ps, and xds. Now I own a ppq...and I’ve literally lost interest in the other guns that I own they just don’t compare. I’d rather own 3 ppqs then multiple types of firearms. I think the only handgun I might try is the czp10c I hear it’s the closest contender to the ppq in terms of quality. Bye Glock, bye Springfield, bye m&p you don’t add up with a ppq you don’t need an aftermarket.
PPQ, no contest.
I have both these handguns.... the PPQ is far and above the Glock!
This is an articulate, intelligent presentation. Thank you for the information and sharing your knowledge with us.
Thank-you.
Felt both at a store before buying. Thought the PPQ looked ugly, but once I put it in my hand - I was sold. Such a cozy gun to hold and point. Extremely ergonomic and well balanced. Much moreso than the Glock. Trigger, of course, is also excellent.
Excellent review. I like my Glock and my PPQ M2, but for me the PPQ gets the edge mainly because I shoot better groups with it. Both pistols have worked flawlessly so far (about 600 rds through my Glock and 300 through the PPQ). Thanks for the in-depth comparison.
im going with the PPQ THANK YOU for helping me make my choice
I bought the PPQ after comparing it with the H&K, Glock 19, and a Sig. I wanted to go home with the H&K. Boy that was a beauty. But the PPQ was the next best of the bunch. I was also comfortable with the price. I'm not an experienced shooter, but got a nice grouping with the H&K. Didn't do as great with the PPQ, but it wasn't too bad. I lost interest in the Glock. I think I'll eventually get an H&K. For the wife, I'd get a CCP.
Great video man. No frills commentary and full of good content. Thank you for showing clear so consistently as well.... Subbed!
+gomethrius Thank you for watching our channel.
Glock: A square box that works. I like that.
I just ordered my PPQ yesterday - in no small part as a result of your video. Thank you from Austin, Texas.
Good pick, I'm waiting not so patiently for a PPQ Navy SD like the one shown in this video.
@@servicablevillian6457 if youre working during this covid crisis, walther has a program for essential personnel which has the ppq navy (2 mags) for 475 and the Q4 Tac (3 mags) for 500. It runs until the 25th of this month.
Keep in mind whatever state restrictions and limitations govern mag capacity for ya
Great Video, forgot to mention the PPQ loaded chamber indicator. Love the trigger on my Walther. Thanks, keep up the good work.
+PSR Thank you.
My PPQ's .45's grip feels like it was custom-molded for me. And 12 rounds of 45 is wonderful.
Always been a fan of the g19 until I used a ppq. Ppq is great. Also my hard mag holster for the g19 does work for the ppq also. Both good, I prefer the walther. Nice video.
Thank-you. That Walther is hard to compete with, especially the awesome trigger it has.
Hammer Striker hi , I'm an amateur so please excuse the question if it doesn't make sense. With regards to the walther, if you want the option to use the suppressor, you have to buy the navy / threaded version correct? It cannot be attached to the regular. 2. What about accessories for the Walther, like sights etc? Are they more expensive than those for the glock and selection? 3. Are longer barrel handguns more accurate for sport/ target shooting? I don't know if Walther makes one of these that are slightly longer. Thanks!
Great comparison review of the two. Thank you.
I'd love to see a review of the M&P 9 or .40 full-size. A newer model with an updated trigger. Maybe one of these days...
Thank-you. We are looking forward to an opportunity to review an M&P, we just don't have one currently.
Can't go wrong with either. I have a G20 (10mm) and a PPQ (9mm) and I love them both
I own both and as a matter of fact I own three other Glocks too. There is no comparison between the two in feel and accuracy. The PPQ accuracy, sights, and ergonomics are superior. Glock is a Glock and it is a fine pistol also, but if I was limited to one pistol it would be the PPQ M2.
I just bought the PPQ in .45. Looking forward to taking it to the range.
You guys will enjoy it when you get to shoot it . Handles recoil well and is fun to shoot.
I have one and it is a BEAST
+Lil J I just uploaded a shooting video of it.
+ima4ster put a link in
Just picked up the PPQ .45...All I can say is it’s AMAZING
really nice review
+Danny K Thank you.
Thanks for sharing.
I truly have to say, that is a Flawless explanation! Would be great if at another video you could talk on the recoil thing on both guns....
Other than that GREAT JOB EXPLAINING !!
Thank you. In 9mm, there is almost no discernible difference in felt recoil.
Okay.Glad to hear That.I think it might b the best 9 mm for me.Thank You so Much
Simply put, the PPQ is the Glock of the 21st century.....better ergo, better trigger, bigger trigger guard, ambidextrous, better build.
The Glock 19, Walther PPQ and the Sig Sauer M17 are the best guns on the market!
Have both. Love both. 🙂
Thanks for the review mate! I have the PPQ M2 competition 5" in 22lr & love the trigger. I'm about to order the same in 9mm ( 5" ) over the glock 17 as the PPQ'S trigger is just superb
We have not yet had the opportunity to try out a competition PPQ, we do have the .22lr in 4" (4.6 with the suppressor adapter on it). It is one of the best .22lr versions of a centerfire pistol out there. If you like the trigger on the .22 you will really love the trigger on the 9mm. The .22lr trigger is excellent but the centerfire triggers are awesome.
Black Friday special $569 for the PPQ M2 Q4 Tac in 9mm.....can't wait to get it....since I've been shooting my P10C I have become sort of a trigger snob...why not have two of the best in the striker fired pistol market
Great presentation
Thank-you.
i am with the ppq
Personally they are almost identical but the way it feels in my hand the PPQ more comfortable for every day of the week and twice on Sunday and you can't deny that trigger the reset so quick driving nails was never easier
Great review. I bought a PPQ and I really like it just amazing pistol it’s a very ergonomic gun. From my perspective.
Thank you.
Great high quality, no frills review. I'll be checking out more. Professional and unbiased. Own G42,19,17,34,41. Think I'll check out the Walther. Got me quite curious. Thx
Thank-you. The Walther is an excellent gun with an unbeatable trigger.
I had to watch this video again...I guess I'll have to buy both guns seeing as I can't make up my mind between the two haha!
That's exactly how we solved the dilemma :-)
I like the Walther better than the Glock, but either is a good choice. The only down side to the Walther is the cost of Mags. I can really let loose on rounds with the Walther....
was having the same VS dilema, G19 vs M2, but after all things considered, except for the after market, the M2 won me over. it just doesn't feel like you're holding a box. great cross review! SUBBED..
Thank-you. The PPQ is an excellent gun and you will not be disappointed.
Got my first pistol.
PPQ
scribed ,thanks for a great video. i really like the m1 mag discon
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I currently have a Glock 19 Gen 3 and have recently become acquainted with the Walther PPQ, at least in some gun shops. I have had the Glock for several years and have had zero problems with it. However, it just is not the most comfortable gun to hold, at least for me. Once I held a PPQ, I have become tempted to either buy one in addition to my Glock or trade the Glock in for one.
I have been watching a number of Glock vs. PPQ videos and have found this one to be exceptionally informative, covering many comparison viewpoints, some I had not considered. Many other videos show the creator shooting one magazine after another. I don't find that as meaningful as comparing the specs as you have done.
The ability of the gun to perform well is often going to be different for various owners, so that perspective is a little less valuable.
Bottom line, great job on this production.
Have both.... the PPQ has a MUCH better trigger and there is no comparison... the PQQ is far superior!!!
Nice video. Just bought the PPQ 4" and love it! Was close to buying the Glock but after shooting both a few times the PPQ was a better fit and more accurate. Only a couple hundred rounds in but very pleased with my first handgun purchase.
The PPQ is a next-generation pistol as compared to the Glock. Just way better in virtually every way. The only edge is Glock's lower bore axis, but I found that some training obviated that issue. There's also the DPM recoil reduction guide rod that may help.
The PPQ has such a great trigger in an extremely high quality ergonomic gun that pretty much anything going up against it for comparison has brought a knife to a gunfight.
Thank-you. You will really enjoy the PPQ especially once you get skilled at working the reset on that trigger.
I want a 10mm PPQ
In a form of a conversion kit, like the p320
Yes, yes ,yes!
Great channel just subscribed I'm going to buy My First ccw I want a 9mm, Watched videos did some research and narrowed it down to these two guns, I'm going to go with the ppq, I just Love walther But Glock 19 gen 4 is going to definitely be second buy, Great video Thanks for helping me out with my decision
Thank you. I am glad we could help. You will love the PPQ. If you have other questions - hit us up.
I have the XDM, Glock and the Walter
I have nothing bad to say about any of them.
They all are excellent weapons. And all three triggers are excellent. Train with your weapon!
I have both, they are both great guns. I shoot the walther better and the trigger can not be beat. The walther leaves the house with me more.
As much as I like my Glocks, I recognize that there is nothing I can do to my Glocks to come close to that awesome PPQ trigger. Except, of course, to just shoot the PPQ.
One has a good trigger.. The PPQ.. The best trigger on polymer.. Second only to 1911 trigger. Still incredibly
Walther PPQ is no.1 in the world. Glock is thrid league.
I own a Walther PP (not ppk) in 7.65. It has never rejected a round, or jammed in it’s use. We have literally never had anything go wrong. Usually a gun will occasionally not go into battery, or be picky with ammo, or not function due to maintenance. But ours with occasional lubing has seen non of this. For this reason, I’m slightly biased in buying a pistol. Walther has never let me down, and for this reason I am going to purchase a PPQ M2. I wanted to get a Glock, but I would rather get a less mainstream 9mm that makes me confident due to my experience with the brand.
You won't regret buying a PPQ - awesome trigger.
PPQ Navy also has a different striker than the PPQ M2.
Great review! Are the sights on the PPQ Navy version suppressor sights? They look pretty standard.
+Grego1776 Thank you. The one we have is standard height, I am not sure if they are available with suppressor height sights OEM. However they are easy to swap out with aftermarket sights.
I bought the ppq when my glock 19 was stolen mainly because of the trigger and that I wouldn't have to spend money upgrading the trigger. Unfortunately I don't shoot it well bought m&p 2.0 which I shot better as well as a gen 5 glock 19. I've never really warmed up to the ppq maybe because it reminds me of a highpoint.
1/10th inch reset. I love my PPQ trigger. It does benefit from a polish job on the slide safety plunger and bore, and the trigger bar to frame nub just like the Glock. After that the PPQ literally feels like a competition trigger. There are also sources for lighter trigger springs that can drop the pull weight to 2.5-3 lbs, for the brave.
My understanding is that since the PPQ is a true single action trigger, so no amount of tinkering will make a Glock trigger as nice. Hope they introduce a compact model at Shot 17
Worth mentioning that the PPQ m1 accommodates P99 sights and magazines without modification (there are aftermarket 30 round mags available for the P99 also).
Yes, it's a fully cocked striker unlike most (including Glock) that are partially cocked. Which, as you point out, makes it equivalent to a single-action trigger. There are many great striker guns out there that can come close (VP9) but nothing can touch that PPQ trigger.
I found an interesting article about modding the PPQ trigger creep:
lanzerbot.wordpress.com/2016/06/20/ppq-adjustable-creep-conversion-guide/
Interesting article, but I would be very careful doing that to one that was going to be used for anything other than range or competition. Getting past the obvious warranty voiding stuff that you simply accept when you mod your gun. The procedure of tightening it until it doesn't work then backing off does not take into account thermal expansion and dirt. So it may work great on the bench or for a few rounds then start to result in "dead-trigger". Also be very careful when drilling and tapping the hole as you can easily get it canted or create stress fractures in the part which would result in failure during use.
Hammer Striker That's an essential caveat you are right, and that guy has at least two PPQs. I thought it was interesting for the folks who are looking to get into IPDA or other competitions or who are just curious about bleeding-edge tinkering ; ) . He's got several articles analyzing the trigger physics/engineering that are great also. He is a standout among gun bloggers who have a technical take on design.
Your point about fooling with geometry is well taken.
That's very cool, "Project guns" can be a lot of fun.
Great video, which one you recommend for conceal carry, the G19 or the PPQ. I heard that the trigger on the PPQ is to light to conceal. What do you think? Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
There is often concern on the trigger but my thought on that is you should not have your finger on the trigger until you are actually ready to fire. So the first thing to do would be spending time practicing the draw and trigger finger control to ensure you come out of the holster with your finger off the trigger. The nicer trigger in that case will assist with improved accuracy (you are less likely to pull the gun left) so if you actually do fire you would be more likely to hit the intended target.
Due to the far greater options for holsters, lights and other carry accessories, you will have an easier time finding a carry method that suits you with the G19, your options are more limited for the PPQ. I think the PPQ is an excellent gun, possibly a bit better overall than the G19. That said, I would carry the G19 for its flexibility and compatibility.
Hammer Striker I carry my PPQ M2 9mm. The best 9mm on the market in my opinion. Accuracy is spot on. I had a custom made shoulder holster for concealed carry, and fits like a glove. While carried it's in vertical when pulled, it rotates (keeping finger off the trigger) I've never had any printing issues. A good carry option, if one can get use to it.
PPQ trigger is fine as long as you keep your booger hook off it until you're ready to shoot.
Where does a fella find a good r&r video for the hammer fired ppq m2 22lr?
Is the Walther easy to rack and Will it Hurt a recoil sensitive Person with weak hands.How Much recoil does it have compared to Glock 42,19&17?Thanx very Much for your reply
The PPQ is fairly easy to rack, similar to the G19.
Recoil profile is almost the same as the G19 or 17, less that the G42. In 9mm it is very manageable and can be shot by almost anybody. The G42 actually has stronger recoil despite being a less powerful cartridge because the gun is small and light. If possible, find a buddy or a range that does rentals and try out either a G19 or a PPQ. If either is comfortable then the other would be as well.
If you are very recoil averse and/or have problems racking most slides, check out the Walther CCP (we have a video on it). It is not as nice as the PPQ or the G19 but it is specifically designed for those who have difficulty racking slides or with recoil.
Awesome review brother! But I'm PPQ all day
Thank you. You cannot go wrong with the PPQ.
The PPQ has a great trigger. In fact, it may be a tad too lite for a beginner shooter. I have accidentally double tapped mine on occasion and I shoot quite a bit. As an alternative, I would reccommend an HK VP-9.....just as good, maybe a half pound or so heavier which makes it perfect in my book. And there is a lighter stock striker fire trigger out there that even beats the PPQ.....what is it? The Steyr S9 A-1......not the most popular pistol, but THE BEST trigger in the game! Try one out...
We have reviewed a VP9 and it is a great gun with a very nice trigger. We will look around for an S9 A-1, I have not actually stumbled across one yet in our travels.
Excellant video, I have had both for a couple of years, just switch from the gen 4 g19 to the PPQ, for my off duty carry. Started to develop feeding issues on certain types of ammo, with the G19 and my gen 4 g17, they are ammo sensitive. love the Glock we carry the gen 4 g22 on patrol, I just have issues carrying something that isn't going to shoot anything I fed it, the Walther has been flawless and I will take the g19 and g17 in to get a deatailed cleaning and to get looked at.
The PPQ is a great gun with an awesome trigger. If previously well-behaved Glocks (or really most semi-autos with a similar mechanism) that are clean and properly oiled start to develop feed issues the most likely culprit is the recoil spring assembly. Over years or rounds down the pipe, the springs will slowly weaken and feed issues will be one of the first symptoms.
Thank you for the reply, I will replace the recoil springs.
Hopefully that will get you back up and running. It's also a good opportunity for a full cleaning - you can completely disassemble a Glock with one tool (Glock Disassembly Tool).
Super, great, nice.. but i still no sure between this 2 gun's. More important - accuracy and ergonomic.☝️🤔
That is where you have to go where they rent them both to make your final decision
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You said the PPQ sight was plastic? I don't think so. My rear sight sure looks like steel to me. I can't be sure what the front was as I now have an aftermarket tritium, but I think the stock front was steel too. One extra point about the rear, is that it is better for one-handed racking than the rear Glock sight (which has some taper to it). I also like having more "air" on the PPQ sight, as these are not target guns.
How much was the standard barrel and where did u get it. Did you order straight from walther.
+gtslow7 It is a Jarvis barrel, factory parts like that are difficult to get with Walthers at times. They are around $250 delivered.
I just bought a PPQ Navy, but have to wait three bloody days (stupid waiting period) as I live in Florida😡.
I have a question, as you were showing the Walther trigger, what is the small round hole at the top of the trigger?? Is it to adjust the trigger, or is it for the pivot for the trigger safety?
Thanks!! Can’t wait to pick it up Thursday!!
It is the pivot point for the safety as well as the attachment point for the trigger bar. I hope you enjoy it when you get it tomorrow.
THANKS for clearing that up! BTW, to FURTHER add to your point about Walther’s not REALLY known about. I was baffled why the PPQ I bought came with two 17 round mags, and one 15 round mag(a third mag) And it had a fiber optic sight. What is this? Did they add a mag, and change the front sight?? Then I learned I had ACTUALLY bought a PPQ Navy Q4 TAC, for $620.00 BRAND NEW!!!, I’m seeing them sell for $700.00+! I don’t think they knew what they were selling!! I’m SO HAPPY!!! Think the threaded barrel is so cool! The gun is so cool!! Can I use that LocTite that doesn’t lock permanently, but can be unlocked(?) on the thread protector from it getting loose? Or, just keep an eye on it? I’m so stoked to get this gun today!!!
Excellent score! Unfortunately you will just have to monitor the thread protector as it gets too hot up there for normal thread locker. The types that can handle the heat are permanent. Remember to only reach for it when the gun is empty and locked back for safety, and it may be hot.
I wonder if you could do a comparison between the PPQ and the P99. I used P99 as a service weapon for years, and I recently bought a PPQ. I want to say one thing, and that is I really understand why the P99 AS is more geared towards official service while the PPQ with its... lighter trigger ? is the civilian version.
We will keep our eyes open for an opportunity to get our hands on a P99 to check it out.
We finally got our paws on a P99, a P99C with the AS trigger to be precise. Review on it's way.
Does the Walther M2 gives less recoil in the hands and less muzzle flip? Is it a better option for someone with Small hands who want a less stiff magazine spring than Glock? Thanx very Much for your reply
Felt recoil and flip is roughly the same for both the PPQ 9mm and the Glock 19. The PPQ grip is more sculpted and contoured than the Glock which is more straight. In this case, due to the relatively light recoil of 9mm and the similarity between the two, it will really come down to how the grip actually feels in your hand. Both have replaceable backstraps to customize the grip. You would likely want the Small on the PPQ and none-installed on the Glock Gen4/5 guns (factory default). The best thing to do is visit a local gun store and handle them to see how they feel and how you can reach/operate the mag release. The PPQ in both 9mm and .40 are identical grips and I am pretty sure the .45 is close (if not actually identical), so handling any one of them will likely give you the answer on the PPQ. The Glock Gen 4 19, 23 are identical grips. You may also want to handle a Glock 19 Gen 5, it removes the finger grooves.
Whichever one you pick (PPQ 9mm, G19 Gen 4 or 5) will have roughly the same felt recoil and flip, but one of them will feel perfect in your hand and that will be the one to take home.
Couldn't love the PPQ2 more. But no way I could ever carry it hidden. Too big.
Aaron Kennedy AIWB in a N82 pro...2XL t-shirts works for me
looks like I'll just have to buy both
That's exactly what we did.
Hammer Striker Me too. Both are great. The PPQ M1 impresses me more tho.
I have both and like them both....but... the PPQ gets my vote!
replaced my glock 19 when it was stolen with the PPQ M1 because of it's trigger and the grip I didn't have to go to the aftermarket to make the trigger work for me.the rear sights are windage adjustable not height adjustable. both are great guns if I can find a second gen glock 19 I would buy it if I have the money as I like the gun.
You make good videos , well spoken no clowning around and straight to the point .
I like the trigger on the PPQ but really hate the way it looks.
It looks like some kid made it with clay.
What other polymer handguns would you say the trigger will come close?..
+Evil Mike Thank you. You may want to check out the H&K VP9 or FNS 9c. Nothing is as good as the PPQ trigger but those two are probably the closest. The CZ P-10c is good but not as good as the hype surrounding it implies.
Hammer Striker
Thank you for the reply.
I like both the VP9 and the FNS9 with the 4 inch barrel .
Those are my two favorite.
Ok last question if you had to pick one
Sig P320
VP9
FNS9 .
Hey can't give you a compliment without some work.
Thanks again bro.
I would say the FNS9c. Hammer has an FNS9c and frequently carries it. Nice trigger and great quality.
Hammer Striker
Thank you for the advice.
I have a P99as that I have not shot yet. I"m sure the PPQ has a better trigger but how do they compare in all the other ways, ergonomics, ect.? A truly great review.
+grady jr Thank you. Unfortunately I have not held a P99 but given that the PPQ pretty much evolved from it I would hope it's at least as good. On the PPQ itself, I can say that the ergonomics are excellent, fits very well in the hand. It is comfortable and the controls are situated perfectly. The replaceable backstraps allow you to customize it to your hand. I really cannot think of anything to dislike on the PPQ.
Thanks. I have heard from a number of people that the Steyr M9 is everything the Glock 19 or 17 should have been. Have you ever heard that & if so your thoughts please?
grady jr I owned a P99AS for quite awhile. Great gun. Really cool trigger system. The trigger reset is phenomenal like the PPQ. If you have a chance to rent one at a range definitely give it a shot.
We finally got our paws on a P99, a P99C with the AS trigger to be precise. Review on it's way.
Regarding the trigger on the PPQ, that's what Q stands for- Quick. PP is Police Pistol.
Ironic that this is a fine German firearm made for police, but German police is a joke.
Had both, sold the glock.
safety wise, always drop the clip before visually checking the chamber
Justin Phillips no clip in these pistols. They are magazines.
Yes and no. In "Nam we often referred to them as clips. Seldom mags. In my opinion It's correct to use either term
Justin Phillips we called the ship a boat in the Navy, doesn't make it correct. Mags not clips.
Well it's actually called the "Magazine" not clip.
ElJayMuncher X
who gives a shit, I'll call it what ever the fuck I want dippy
I don't know. I hear the trigger on the CZ P10C can possibly beat it, and the HK VP9 comes close. We also have the SigP320.
The CZ P10 is on our list to get our paws on for a review. We do have a VP9 and it's trigger is very close but the PPQ just edges it out. The P320 does have a nice trigger but it is not in the league of either the VP9 or the PPQ (in our opinion).
Just from dry firing the three this is also the impression I get.
Late reply but the vp9 is not a reliable handgun. Check out macs review on it
Trigger is what makes the Walther the winner
I agree, the PPQ trigger is as close to perfect as you can get in a striker gun.
And ergos and asthetics lol it's just better all around
So which one do you buy?
BOTH, having both of these pistols I can safely recommend having both in your collection, its a win win.
So if you buy the PPQ first, what is the argument for also buying the Glock? What does it get you that you don't already have?
Glock without a question......
But for impressing the friends ppq.
I DUNNO about that one but at the same time I CAN’T ARGUE WITH YOU either!! lol 🤷🏻♂️
@@fernie2583 I think we are on the same page. I think PPQs look beautiful but for me, nothing looks more stylish than Glocks. It looks like a proper weapon that means business and is scarily efficient.
I can get the PPQ m2 for $459.99
A few reviews are saying the PPQ has failure to battery issues, especially with steel cased ammo, whereas the 19 shoots anything.
We have not had any issues with our PPQs, they have been just as reliable as the Glocks. However, we do not feed them steel or aluminum, we only use steel in the AKs but not in other guns as steel and the lacquers used to prevent corrosion can cause issues in tighter tolerance chambers. We do use a wide variety of quality in brass from good defense ammo to cheap Perfecta and Winchester White box and they just work.
Yeah, I love the PPQ, but for SHTF purposes it looks like the G19 is the choice because it can run shitty ammo...
during a range trip i shot about 250 rounds of steel through my ppq with no issues, it was a mix of mostly tula, some brown bear, and some wolf. ran it all just fine, i even said fuck it and shot about 50 rounds of brass right after to really test it and my baby ate it all up without a hiccup. it also shoots that federal and cci aluminum stuff equally well, maybe some others who report jams are over lubing or something? ive literally never had a jam yet in my ppq in the thousands of rounds ive put through it, i mean i clean it after every trip and all, but im still amazed at that jewel.
I have shot a couple thousand steel cased ammo with my ppq 9mm. ZERO problem so far. Great great gun, way better than Glock in my opinion, I don't have the G19, but I've shot it and I do have the 42, 31 and 21. Ppq is just better.
You said the Glock sights were very popular u-dot...most people hate the Glock u-dot sights. I would of said the Glock's unpopular u-dot sights that most people upgrade immediately.
I own a PPQ and as far as I can NOT compare the PPQ is better :-)))
I was worried because a man said That the Walther slide Is very stiff and have the muzzle flip of a .45.Maybe he have used +P rounds.Im very happy to learn That it Is not the case.The serrations at the end probably helps to rack.All people said That the Walther Is the Most confortable gun they have ever used.Is it your case?Thanx very Much
+Teeroo Sam The PPQ is very comfortable to hold and use. The .40 version of it has a bit of twist and flip but I have not found the 9mm to be like that. I had Hammer compare the G19 to the PPQ and he says the PPQ is a bit heavier than the G19 to rack but he did it easily. I have powerful hands and arms so I am not always the best at noticing slight differences in pull weight, but Hammer is more typical of most people.
Most gun stores will let you rack them, try a PPQ, G19 and a Walther CCP side by side if you can.
If you are willing to go down to.380, the Walther PK380 is super easy to rack and very low recoil.
the glock 19 may only have a single accessory slot but it has plenty of after market support so it really doesn't matter in my opinion. great video by the way.
Thank-you. I have seen that quite a few of the aftermarket accessories take that single-slot into account. They all want their add-on to work on Glocks so that they can gain access to that large market base.
How about recoil most people say its bigger with PPQ and in videos it looks bigger plus Glock gen 4 has even further reduced recoil do to new spring. Probably becaus PPQ has higher barel axis.
In 9mm and .45, the PPQ felt recoil is nearly the same as the equivalent Glock. In .40 the PPQ doesn't handle recoil quite as well as some other guns like it but still is quite reasonable.
Not true at all. I shoot my buddies glock 19 next to my M1 often. Both are stock. And the glock 19 has WAY softer of a recoil. Being the Q was my first pistol, ive learned to handle it well, but holy crap when I grip up that glock the same way as my Q, the glocl doesnt move. Much faster follow up shots. I was impressed. Not as accurate, but much better control. While not to say you're lying, I think their might be some inconsitancies somewhere. Too many people disagree on it.
I rented the gen4 19, ppq, & sig p320 compact all in 9mm at the indoor range to see which one I wanted. I was a little miffed to find that the gen4 19 had a little noticeable less recoil than the others. But the ppq definitely had the best trigger & the sig was second. Not buying a range gun so I probably will go with the gen4 19. A number of people have told me the 19 is the AK of pistols. I have an AK so that means something to me.
Ricky Bobby I actually sold the beretta and kept the glock, cz, hk, and will pick up my ppq navy on Friday
Could you do a review on Walther Creed? Thanks.
I have added it to our list to review.
I’ll stick to my HiPoint C9 Yeeter
The thing I would highlight about the two guns is the triggers. Both guns are really fantastic options in terms of quality, but in terms of a "carry" gun, the PPQ is a little light on the trigger. In fact, it is noted that the German police refuse to issue this pistol b/c the trigger is too light for a duty pistol.
I've gone through a lot of different guns having shot, owned and carried several ranging from the Glock 19 to the Walther PPQ, and while I do really like the PPQ, I won't carry it for the reasons mentioned above...the trigger. It's too light for a defensive carry gun IMO. I have come full circle to rest on the Glock 19 as my go to gun for just about every occasion, supported with the M&P Shield 9mm.
What makes the Glock 19 such a perfect EDC/GP pistol is the size/capacity ration, cost, and aftermarket support. With a couple Glock 17 magazines in reserve, the Glock 19 is more than enough to satisfy the need for personal defense whether it be for the street or the home. I certainly don't begrudge anyone who chooses the PPQ over the Glock, b/c it is a fantastically made pistol, but...in terms of what a pistol is designed to do, it is my opinion that the Glock 19, in particular, is the quintessential pistol.
There is a reason the entire SOF community uses the Glock 19 now, save maybe one elite group, so when you are looking for a pistol to fit all your needs, one really need look no further than the venerable Glock 19. It's the most popular pistol for a reason.
German state police use the VP9, the PPQ is only slightly lighter than that. Both are fully cocked.
moritsuna if they do it's only been recently.
***** actually no, the MARSOC just made the Glock 19 the only approved pistol for use. The entire SOCOM uses the Glock 19 now. The only group that I'm aware of that does not use the Glock 19 is the DEVGRU, which I am told still use the P226 or the HK 45.
moritsuna according to most recent reports, the German state police is issued the P8 HK USP 9mm. Do you have any information to substantiate your statement? I would like to get it, but can't find anything on it.
***** some do, but most SEALs I have talked to say they just use what they're issued.
Base on the comments I have read, PPQ is the winner!
Why is the ppq not more popular?
The only thing that I can think of is marketing and visibility, everybody knows what a Glock is but a lot of people seem to be unaware of this excellent gun. Everybody has fired our PPQ has loved it and many simply didn't even know it existed.
Hammer Striker, Why is this not everyone's EDC? I am skimming on how I can afford a ppq. I shot one with some Trijicon organ sights on it. It made me a better shooter, maybe a better person.
Advertising. The PPQ is a great pistol, but most will never know that.
I think for awhile Smith and Wesson was importing the PPQ and all Walther's for that matter . S&W also made the PPK. Not gonna spend a lot of effort promoting a competitor to the M&P. Now Walther has their own distributor stateside with much better marketing. I own a PPQ classic.
+Chris Grove You are correct that S&W was the importer, some of the early ones actually had S&W stamped on them. Walter USA is now totally independent.
Which has more recoil?
They are pretty much the same, it will come down to ergonomics and which one feels better in your hand.
Which model ppq 9mm is this?
That is a PPQ M2 Navy in 9mm.
For me Glocks were a little difficult to get the hang of, but now that I'm used to them I'm very much a fanboy. They're so minimal and light. Conceal carrying a G19 feels like a cheat code.
I love both pistols. I'll gladly join the uncool club.
Yep. Got both, like both. Variety is good.
Im 5'9 160lbs and I have no problems carrying the 19 concealed EDC. I do feel like it is probably the largest pistol I can carry comfortably, which is why I'm hesitant to get a PPQ. I know the trigger is great, but not enough for me to have a redundant pistol that has less utility for me. I'd like to try to CCW the ppq just to see.
Im debating between PPQ and FNS-9C .
sometimes PPQ looks like hi-point to me for some odd reason.
The longer overhang in the back might suggest that from a profile perspective, but if you look at one in real life they are quite nice looking. Either the PPQ or the FNS would be a great choice, the trigger on the PPQ is unbeatable but the FNS's trigger nearly as good.
Rowland Flint -the ppq doesnt photograph well or film but in person its beautiful..
terez tiago, I agree. It is also a pleasant gun to hold and shoot.
that mag isnt really flush on the glock.....just sayin....