Sony A7III vs Panasonic G9 - Full Frame or M43?
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- Sony A7III vs Panasonic G9 - Full Frame or M43?
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I've used the G9 for 3 months now for sports and entertainment events at a large exhibitor in my city, here's what I have to say quite quickly:
The body is perfect for me. The grip is the perfect depth for me. The weight is perfect for me. The construction feels rock solid. I've used it in deep Nova Scotia rains on a vacation 2 weeks ago, and I had no problems with the weather. I was excited to use a lcd display on top again because I've been using GH4's for 4 years now. The G9 was my major upgrade this year. I started out by forgetting about it, but as I readjusted to having the screen, I use it all the time now. Same situation with the analog joystick. I really like the moveable display screen. It makes everything look like gold. The programmable buttons are a god send, especially that dial on the front which I have programmed to switch into "night mode." The battery isn't as good as my GH4's, which I have the most experience with, and I presume it's because of the IBIS.
The image quality is fantastic and 20mps is good enough. 24 would be perfect, but I have absolutely no issues with 20. The DR is good and I'm extremely happy with it. The files are large and I feel like I can really push them a lot in post-production to get enough out of them-- sometimes too much because I get carried away. I have had no issues editing photos and grain hasn't been an issue what-so-ever. Again, pixel peepers might hate that, but I came from a newspaper background, and generally when printing for publications or web, this isn't an issue in my opinion.
I haven't used the video enough, and while in my experience it might be better than the GH4, the lack of control comparatively sorta' sucks a bit.
The battery grip is also fantastic and matches the body perfectly.
The menu's are fantastic, and that's something Panasonic has really nailed down for years now.
At work we have a couple different bodies, but I usually rent. Last year we grabbed a Sony body and I can't remember which one, but they were fine. I disliked the menu's strongly and I found the ergonomics to be lacking, but that's my preference and for my needs.
In conclusion, I wrote too much and should have just produced my own video review of the G9. Sorry about this everyone.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with the G9!
You said your reply would be quick. It was not.
Alex Morgan who said that?
Any chance we could see some of the work you shot with the g9? currently torn between dropping M43 altogether after finding myself enjoy more photo work than i do video. I also owned a gh4 and come from a film background but can find very little support for professional photography in the M43 form factor
Maybe the most important difference even, the Panasonic is just plain FUN to use. Most other cameras out there are not...
Finally Bought G9 today. Its a camera I like to shoot pictures with. Ergonomics are unbeatable. No matter how good other full frames cameras bring features on paper. But Lumix G9 images are more than good enough to compete and probably best fun gadget to use.
I absolutely love your reviews, much like I love those of David Thorpe! I have filmed my first video with the Sony A7iii and I must admit that the video quality along with stills quality is superb! But every time I use the Sony I miss the enjoyment I got when using my GH4...which leads me to continually want either a GH5 or a G9.
I would like to point out that the Sony A7 III is Twice as expensive, So not exactly a fair comparison. Otherwise Great Video!
If you consider the cost of the FF lenses, Panasonic and 4/3rd system makes lot more sense for an advanced enthusiast. If you are successful professional...why consider only FF, a Medium Format can also an option
@@prashanthm4641 Are you using that logic to imply that full frame is not needed? Don't forget that FF is the only system that's currently have widest lens, shallowest DOF lens, and longest tele lens that available. That's the only reason why professional stays with FF and not any other systems.
It is a great comparison for people comparing the 2 systems on a budget. I'm literally deciding whether to save up for 6 months or is it worth saving for 1 year to invest in full frame. It's a long time and huge cost difference for entry level professionals like me.
They're both very decent hybrid cameras, and are at the opposite ends of the sensor size spectrum that most consumers buy. Hence the relevant comparison which highlights the pros and cons to each system.
Very true, however as he said in the begging it's aimed at the same sort of people, for example im thinking of one of them
I’m not even close to pro level, that said, I love the G9. I recently switched from a6400. I was looking at the A7iii because I thought I needed FF. After some research I got the G9 (it does exactly what I need, in camera focus stacking) I do landscape & artistic macro/ close up. I just recently bought the G9, so far I’m loving it. High Res & Post Focus has a little learning curve but it rocks. Yes, I know I can focus stack on the computer but why when the camera does it very well. The high res is fantastic for those clients that love large prints or multi canvas prints.
This is a good analysis. These are the same two cameras I use everyday. The A7iii is stunningly capable and It’s always nearby when I need it. But the G9 is my constant companion and I can easily work within the confines of M43 in exchange for superb ergos and intuitive design.
You are one of the best photography reviewers on CZcams. Great video & content. Keep up the good work & well done.
Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!
Great breakdown man. I love using my G85 for snapshots and holiday photos. If M4/3 has better ISO performance I would almost think about switching to it for my weddings. I still may rent a G9 for a wedding though.
Thank you, M43 is great system for non-professional use and with F1.2 - F1.4 primes, the G9 should be OK for things like wedding. I have never shot a wedding though, so I might be wrong about that 😃
Joe Marano depends on your definition of fantastic results. You unfortunately can't shoot event on iPhone with decent results no matter how good you are. Steven Soderbergh even tried to shoot movie on iPhone with full Hollywood crew and it still looks awful.
Photo-Me-Ike I just successfully shot my first wedding with my GH5. Went really well. I used off camera HSS wireless flash. And I used 1.7/1.8/2.8 lenses for random candids.
I am using Olympus Em1(markI) aside with Canon 5DII for 2 years shooting weddings. I usually do 70% of the wedding with M43, they're way sharper than FF and ISO is no problem when you have fast primes(they don't need to be the fastest for cool results, but faster is better).
My setup is Leica 15mm f1.7, Oly 45mm f1.8 and 60mm macro f2.8 on Oly M1 and Canon 24-105 f4 and Canon 40 f2.8 on Canon 5D MarkII.
I also like to use artificial light on both.
If you want to see the results, my Instagram profile is @ronybonani.
M43 are awesome, but you have to change your head to M43 photographer instead of FF photographer, forget the high iso and use higher aperture.
@@TheHybridShooter the G9 is great camera for weddings and I have shot a lot of my wedding work featured on my website and insta with the G9. A7 iii looks great though I have never shot with sony. Great video as always
The video I was waiting for. Thank you for the details on each device!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Wow, this is a great review. You seemed to anticipate ALL of the questions someone might have and so many questions I wish I knew to ask! I am mulling over a G9 for architecture interiors/exteriors shot in available light or at night. I have a Gx7 currently and the creative settings are very fun to use for arch. shooting. I would love to know how the creative settings are on the G9- thoughts?
Great review. For me they are different cameras as the cost difference is considerable and the handling is shockingly different. I tried the Sony and the lenses are very heavy. The zoom is very stiff. Don’t get me wrong, the Sony is a better camera in many ways but I’m not taking it traveling. It’s a monster. Each provides a different compromise. And if you’re a vlogger the Sony is not an option.
Fortunately, there is a lot of options on the market now, so anybody can choose what best suits his needs. There are some small lenses for full frame like 24-70mm F4, Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 is also tiny for what it does. Sony definitely is an option if you are vlogger though, I will make a video about that.
Which camera would you choose for real estate photography, where 95% is stills and 5% video; where aperture is anywhere from 7.1 to 11 and everything, foreground and background, is usually in focus; where you almost always shoot from a tripod during the daylight hours; where you do a lot of walking from house to house (sometimes six houses a day), room to room; but where overall image quality is your biggest criterion?
@@mediamannaman Go Full Frame. Full Frame will give you better overall image quality. A7iii, or even the A7Rii are great options as well. Like Hybrid Shooter said in the video, more dynamic range, better low light performance. A7Rii's 42mp gives you incredible detail. If you only are doing stills. Great landscape camera.
Thank you, that was interesting. I guess for me there can only be one really viable option, partly because I am so fond of landscapes and need every bit of sensor size and the advantages that gives but also as I got a huge stash of old manual focus lenses and I die to use them and even APS-C makes me cringe (don't get me wrong I started that way as most of us in digital SLR).
What you managed to do was to open my eyes to the capabilities of the Panasonic; for me the m4/3 has always been about portability, having a small camera and lens combo that can always be with you and now suddenly the m4/3 is LARGER than the full frame camera, but you shown that it has capabilities beyond, stabilization and viewfinder that is huge too.
When it comes to ergonomics I'm not so sure Panasonic has an advantage, for me that is. As I have grew up on manual 135 film cameras and having aperture and shutter speed dial to turn besides the ISO (I think in ASA) having programmable buttons and stuff in menus is like trying to teach a chimpanzee the finer points of astrophysics I'm afraid.
Super video answering all my thoughts on the two formats..Many thanks.
You're welcome, thank you for watching.
Really relevant comparison! Both cameras are closely priced and have A LOT of strengths. I have both systems, and agree with everything you said. For me, I use M4/3rd for travel and everyday carry and Full Frame for portraits, sports and documentary work. I'm not a fan of the M/4rd f1.2 lenses as they're just as expensive the Full Frame equivalents and get away from the m/43rds advantage of small size package. But the new sensors have improved a great deal in low light. The gap is much smaller now up to ISO 6400.
Thank you, the gap is about 1,25 to 1,5 stops up to ISO 6 400, which is still a lot IMO since the full frame is improving as well, although the MFT is now much more usable for professional work.
The cameras are not closely priced anymore. The G9 costs 1197 and the a7 iii costs 1998 (60% more expensive).
This video was posted 16 months ago... so the prices have changed.
Wow restart your brain😮
dude, 13k subs? Wtf. Congrats. As I discovered you you were at about 4k subs. Good old G85 Times! Keep it up. Still looking forward to your reviews. Very informative and professional as always.
Thank you, I appreciate your long term support, I remember that you commented on my video about i.Dynamic in Panasonic cameras, I had less than 1K back then :D
Lol same!
wow. Less than 1k. Man....That's even more impressive. Love to see your channel growing. You definately deserve it in my opinion. Your content is always high quality and well thought. Also your kind of review is informative and not too theoretical!
Thank you, I'm glad that you like this format.
39k!
Great review. Each of us has our own criteria based on what's most important to us. For me, the fully articulated screen of the G9 is mandatory. The a73 has all kinds of wonderful features, but the fact that its screen only tilts makes it not nearly as usable with my aging knees. I've come to rely on a touch screen more and more, especially touch focus. And finally, in the real world, the extra stabilization in the Panasonic does a lot to offset the sensor size differences relative to dynamic range and noise. Your review is spot-on that these are both incredible cameras and can make incredible pictures. How fortunate we are to have such a wealth of capable tools!
Yes, it is mostly about preferences, fortunately there is a lot to choose from at moment. I will be getting Atomos Ninja V for my Sony cameras so that could solve the front facing screen. Thank you for watching!
Older video but good one. Own both. Unless you do mostly photography or low light work the gh5 or g9 with the Ibis is far superior for my use. Video 85. 15 photos. Love the dof in a7iii but that wears off. Like the flip screen, better firmware tech, size/eco system with Mft. The ff hype is more for sales than for most people use.
Another great video comparison! I’ve been looking forward this one. Nice job!
Thank you, I'm glad that you like it.
I think I need both!
On 10:32 you talk about track focus on Sony, and G9 and even GX8 have same feature and it's impressive. You can even select with your finger the element to track. Awesome. In automatic mode, it detects eyes of people and maintain focus on it.
I think your reviews are some of the best on youtube. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!
Great review! Thank you for a very fair treatment of both cameras. Your assessment agrees with mine.
No camera is perfect, or does it all. But these two are excellent!
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
I am so happy that Sony found it worthy to try Full Frame CSC's. I could have gone so wrong! But... oh my the Dynamic Range, the low levels of noise, the IBIS, the ... ah so good. Not cheap, but you pay for what you get here.
And it is also is nice to see that Panasonic is also very capable to squeeze as much quality out of that smaller sensor. Very good quality! In the begin everybody laughed and said that those sensors were just kid toys. Look at those people who said that now.
So both are a good buy.
Great video. Spot on conclusion. I've been thinking about that exact combo of A7III and Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 as to get that kind of sensor and AF performance. But ultimately the A7III and a fullframe system in general, doesn't fit in well with my kind of shooting. The G9 is a dream to use and I love the fact lenses can be kept really compact. That also allows a 2nd camera, like the GX80 to run next beside it as an in-and-around-the-house kind of camera with for instant the Leica 15mm f/1.7 on there. That combination has a similar footprint as the LX100. And the GH5S has shown sensor performance from a 4/3" has still got some tricks up its sleeve. Just think how far we've come from the GH4 that was terrible above ISO800, struggling with dynamic range, even colors... had a 4K crop and had no sensor stabilization. Imagine the next generation Panasonic cameras, they will be capable enough to handle any scenario. They just need to acknowledge their DfD system was a poor choice and start implementing a phase detect system. So I see a bright future there for MFT and not enough reason to get into the fullframe game.
Speaking of which... with the excellent A7III and its competitive pricing... and a very neglected compact lens line-up for Sony APS-C... what will become of the Sony Axx00 series? I can hardly imagine anyone spending 1700,- on a A6700, like I said there hasn't been any compact Sony APS-C lenses developed in recent years and with that pricetag, wouldn't you just pick the A7III instead? I can only really see them bring the A5x00 series back and keep it sub-1000,- pricing. It will also be interesting to see more advanced mirrorless systems from Canon & Nikon.
It is mostly about what you prefer. At the moment I am willing to sacrifice a bit of handling comfort for the A7 III output, but I hope that one day there will be a camera with A7 III performance and G9 handling. When I made video "is Sony APS-C dead?" back in september 2017 everybody thought I am wrong and that the APS-C is not going anywhere, but it seems like I was right after all...
Awesome video. Very detailed, thank you.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Man, at some point I was going to do this comparison but I see you beat me to it. And you do it so well :D Great stuff.
Thank you, I'm sure that there's place for more than one A7III vs G9 comarison on CZcams.
Wonderful review and comparison!
Great content as usual!
Thanks!
Thank you!
Your in-depth and FAIR comparisons (vs 6500 too) of the G9 have convinced me to upgrade from my entry level M43 camera to one. There's a crazy rebate going on right now making this camera $1097 new before subtracting the trade-in camera's value. That's just too good of a deal for this camera IMO. Thanks for all the info you have presented!
You're welcome, the G9 price is really good right now.
Accurate, reliable, fun, entertaining and highly informative video. Excellent. Thank you very much.
Thank you, I'm glad that you like it!
Thank you man! You pretty much explained everything that i needed to know to get the a7 iii instead of gh5/g9 :)
You're welcome!
thank you for the review, what camera did you use to make this video? i love the sharpness. and autofocus looks smooth. i have canon mark 3, and need to find an alternative with 4k and good autofocus, for my fitness videos and vlogging.
You're welcome, I used Sony A6500.
Such a well done video. Somehow the word 'gracious' comes to my mind. Thank you!
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
I love the g9! Very undervalued camera with awsome stabilisation and great 8pmp high res mode.
Thanks for making this. I think many people overlooked the advantage offered by m43's very compact and complete lens system. As good as my A7iii and GM lens are, I am still holding onto all my m43 lens and seriously thinking to get the G9 (or the next em1).
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Very informative as I've recently tried both at an exhibition.
Thank you!
One of the best balanced reviews on these two cameras. I recently started exploring the G9 and am looking to buy it now. The Sony has all the rave about it but it didn’t sit well with me. Tried the a6400 and same. Moving from canon so I been watching tons of videos. Yours is one of the best. Keep at it.
Thank you!
Great content! Could you do a comparative test with using speed boosters on the Panasonic G9 and the Sony A6500 vs. the full frame Sony A7 III?
Thank you, I currently don't use any speedbooster, but I will probably do so in the future.
Très belle présentation merci...
A very informative video with everything you need to know and more thank you. You having both cameras which one have you used the most and with what lens for still photograph? Thanks again.
Thank you, it depends on the situation and what look I want to achieve. I mostly use A7 III with Tamron 28-75 and G9 with Leica 12-60.
Awesome review,really helpful
Great video, very in depth and unbiased comparison.
Thank you!
As many others have said: thanks so much for such a well-rounded comparison and straight forward video. It is very much appreciated although I still can't decide which one to get 😆
You're welcome, you can't really go wrong with either.
Very objective and practical comparison. Great job sir!
Thank you!
Excellent comparison! They are both really good cameras!
Thank you, they sure are!
Excellent review. I also have both these cameras and your review is spot-on IMO. I love the ergonomics of the G9. It fits in my hand perfectly. Sony should take a lesson from Panosonic on how to build a camera body that is comfortable and easy to navigate through menus. I am curious as to how you got the shot of the eagle in flight? My one big negative about the G9 is that it always wants to focus on busy backgrounds instead of the subject in the foreground. This is really frustrating when attempt to focus on a bird-in-flight.
Thank you, you need to set exact focus area with custom multi mode, and use +2 +2 0 focusing settings. Even than the keeper rate is quite poor though.
Yup. Grip is a big consideration for me. Dont like the a7iii too much even though the camera itself is outstanding
Yeah, I agree, G9 has better ergonomics overall.
Very good comparison, you know how to make good reviews, I hope more people notice your channel.
Thank you!
2 years later. Is the G9 a viable travel video camera with the firmware updates (autofocus)? I will mostly be shooting wide angle and Vlogs. I like the G9 for the price and stabilization. It will mostly be used in run and gun scenarios. Thanks!
Amazing job, thanks for sharing bro
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Good review , clear honest and covering usable features.
Thank you!
Hello HS, like you, I bought the G9 for the viewfinder, but i'm having some trouble with it. I took some pics after a BB game on sigma 16mm, iso 800 or 1600. When I zoom in to check sharpness in the VF, it looks like a noisy blotchy mess, LCD monitor shows similar results maybe not quite as bad. When I look at the pictures on the PC, they're fine, no noise, sharp detail. What's going on ?, are there settings for the VF? It reminds me of watching a movie on TV in Dynamic setting vs Movie mode. Makes it very hard to confirm image quality? Is there some way to set the VF/monitor in "movie" mode and reduce gain (I have brightness on auto or at center position). Do you also have this problem of confirming sharpness? Thanks
Very helpful, thanks
Great video..... one major M43 advantage is lens size and not having to lug around a couple of Kg of full frame lenses. It's a big advantage when it's hot and mountainous.
Thank you, that is a relative advantage, because those lenses are much darker and there is also a lot of compact lenses available for FF E-mount as well.
THANK YOU for this Awesome review!!! I love my G9 but keep wondering if I should go full frame. I envy parts of the Sony but I think I am going to stick with my G9 because I LOVE the handling and smaller lenses. I can forego the 5-8% of the shots that I need a little more dynamic range. Besides I have been shooting auto-bracketing on my true HDR shots. THANKS!
You're welcome, that depends on your style, both have different advantages.
I’m experiencing the same dilemma...
Love my G9 for so many reasons but can’t help wanting a smaller grip for my tiny hands!
Really torn!
One other thing. Because the micro four-thirds uses a different aspect ratio that I prefer, cropping a Sony image to that same aspect ratio would reduce its effective pixels from 24 megapixels to 21 megapixels. The difference between that and the Panasonic is so small as to be perfectly negligible.
Great information. If you had to pick one of these two cameras which would you pick for mostly video?
Thank you! A7 III.
Thanks very detailed and informative review. I think I'm going to buy the A73 it's just my first lens I'm trying to decide on. I think the 28mm F2 is first choice but the new 24mn F2.8 Samyang is tempting it's pity about the 28 75 Tamrons AF problems I'll wait and see.
Thank you, I will make a review of 28mm F2 on A7 III this week. My Tamron works without any problems, although I understand that not everybody is willing to risk it.
The Hybrid Shooter - yes it's strange some people are having real problems with it and others find no problems. Maybe it was the early batch and they aren't willing to admit it.
Yes, it seems so. They had the first lenses in the US two weeks before I did despite the pre-order, so that might have been a problem.
Great detailed review as always. I wonder how the EM1-Mark II compares to the Panasonic G9. The one thing you didn't go more into in the video is how much the better IBIS on the G9 can help you get similar image quality to the full frame camera. For example on my EM1- Mark II I can use a super slow shutter speed and use a lower ISO than I would have to use on a Full Frame camera like Canon or Nikon. Of course the Sony has IBIS too, but not as good. So if you factor that in, the image quality in the real world is VERY close, and in some cases better on M43 like G9 or EM1-Mark II.
Thank you, I have talked about that in this video, the IBIS in both G9 and EM1 II is great, but it only makes difference for long handheld exposures of non-moving subjects, so it definitely doesn't make the image quality equal, it won't help while shooting events, sports or any other moving subjects. You can also use tripod for long exposure with other cameras.
Nice job. Thanks...
Awesome review! Is the Panasonic G9 still with it in 2023? The 5 axis stabilization mechanism is really superb!
Great video as usual, would you mind share your rough PP workflow-I like the clarity and sharp look to your images. I am A7RII shooter with micro 4/3 history mainly shooting with vintage adapted lenses. čau
Thank you, part of that is shown in this video, I will make more tutorial later on czcams.com/video/e3L0IRiAwFM/video.html
Great video! Worth the wait. I'm actually leaning towards the G9. Though I have no idea what lens to buy and their price, going M43 would more likely be less expensive than going FF.
What if I could only get one lens (or two, if I have to), what would you recommend for both systems? In order of importance; wide angle, food/macro, for street shooting and lastly, a bit of a zoom.
Also, I think I stumbled on a video demystifying the "full-frame" look. Will edit comment when I find it.
Thank you, there is a ton of videos about "demystifying" full frame look, but the truth is that until they make F1.4 zoom lenses and F0.9 prime lenses for M43 (in that case we would have to demystify M43 size advantage), full frame look will be easier to achieve with full frame camera.
For M43 I would recommend Panasonic 12-35mm F2.8 or 12-60mm F2.8-4. For A7 III I recommend Tamron 28-75mm F2.8.
Some great new cameras but I’m still enjoying my D500 for photography. Panasonic makes great stuff for video. I enjoy my G85 quite a bit for affordable, compact video. Pictures are are pretty good from the G85 too surprisingly.
I've used the g85 for a while before handed it down to my younger sister, it is a very capable camera and I was surprised how good the pictures look coming out from it with full auto settings! with little edit my pictures were more than just good to my eyes! now I'm using the gh5 and g9 as my B cam or mainly for pictures.
both cameras are impressive. thank you for the effort and the sharing. i am a very satisfied subscriber. thumbs up.
Thank you, I'm glad that you like my content!
Love my G9 for its functionality, awesome lenses and ergonomics and if I had the money, I would get the a7r iii on top. The ideal combination imo.
Line skipping while shooting full sensor 4K on A7R III is a deal breaker for me and I have no use for 42 megapixels at the moment, so I much prefer A7 III. It also has same AF as the A9 unlike the A7R III.
The Hybrid Shooter these are valid points, but imo the a7iii and G9 are gonna be used for the same purpose. E.g. video, fast action etc. And if I have two cameras, they need to be used for different kinds of photography.
That is true, but I often have need use two or three cameras for the same purpose at the same time.
Throughout the video, I was wondering if you lived in Switzerland, Germany, Austria....even Hungary etc. Not for one moment did I consider Slovakia. I must visit Slovakia in the future, it looks a beautiful country. Thanks for a really interesting videos...I am inclined to upgrade from the GX7 to the G9 soon. Best wishes, Rob.
Thank you Rob, it is indeed worth visiting, there is a lot to see in Slovakia.
Right to the point and unbiased.
Thank you!
Another great and very detailed video! Thank you! I would appreciate if you could take more about video capabilities of each camera but you are a "Hybrid Shooter" after all :)
Thank you, I will make more videos about both, this video was already too long.
Not too long, at all. This vid was perfect length to feel like a worthwhile detailed review and comparison. I've been waiting a good while to see an unbiased, equally informed, direct comparison of these 2 cameras. Great job in doing that. Looking forward to further comparative info. BTW, I would have loved to have seen more examples of final renders of the exact same shot captured by both cameras. Otherwise, excellent review!
The Hybrid Shooter no, it was great and filled with information! Keep it up!
SeanBruceMedia Thank you, more coverage will be coming soon.
TechLineHD Thank you, will do my best to keep it up and provide more coverage.
Great comparison thanks. What camera are you using to showcase at 0:38 for e.g. That camera looks great for that purpose
Thank you! I don't remember to be honest, probably Sony A6500.
Very detail video! I believe every format has its place. I personally did a video suggesting 5 reasons why people should go for m43.
Thank you, I agree, both systems have different strengths.
Great video as many have said, but, the G9 is still going (and so is mine in January 2022) and has had some great upgrades and there is a Sony a IV now.
Have you done a comparison of those now?
No, I haven't. I have left M43 system a long time ago.
Great informative video thanks
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Good comparision, waiting for sensor size video :) I got A6000 and thinking what I should choose now :)
Thank you, I will do that soon!
Very good comparison, thanks
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Great video that explains the two cameras !!! I'm thinking of changing my camera and the two candidates are these two !!! I own a Gx80 and would like to step up my level. What would you recommend ??
Thank you, that depends on your preferences and the lenses that you already have.
Can you set the minimum shutter speed with the G9 ???
You bought the Sony A7III in Malaysia? Saw the MCMC sticker
I ordered it from Hong Kong, but it is international version, so it could be sourced from Malaysia.
Have you tried a Metabones Speedbooster? With this you can adapt full frame lenses and keep the full frame look on MFT
I have, but I much prefer using native full frame lenses on full frame camera instead of using speedbooster on crop sensor camera.
Amazing content brother.
Thank you!
What about 1080p quality in video? Which camera offers better detail?
I honestly haven't tested that, since I don't shoot 1080p except for slow-motion, but I will take a look at that for future videos.
Oh man! Thanks for this clear review, i need it this! Sony is a small beast, bit Pany is more close to me. Cheers!
You're welcome!
Very good comparison and presentation. This video has me wishing for both cameras, but for a single camera solution, I am now wondering if a sensor in the middle, (APS-C), would not be a good solution for myself as a hobbyist. I will be studying your other videos.
Not really, full frame is a widely adapted standard nowadays, so that it a better option at the moment.
Amazing Video THX!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thank you for the great video. I myself have a G9 and was contemplating on trading it in for an A7iii. Both great cameras overall I see. Looks like it’s between great low light, dynamic range, and autofocus vs great ergonomics, in body stabilization, and lens selection (full frame lenses look to cost just as much as the camera!)
Do you have the kit lens for the A7iii?
Thank you, that is basically right, regarding the lenses, it about whether you prefer compact size or bright aperture and full frame look, there are some affordable high-quality lenses like Tamron 28-75 aleready avaliable for A7 III. I do have the kit lens.
any updates? did you trade it in
Best review on you tube of these two cameras.
Thank you!
I enjoy listening to your views, bravo.
Thank you!
Great review, thank you
Thank you!
Great vid as usual. What do I do, get a6500 with some decent glass or a7iii with the kit lens . Help. Ps I'm new to photography and video
Thank you, I will make full comparison between A7III and A6500 next week.
The Hybrid Shooter obviously it's a better camera but it'll be interesting to get your final opinion for people who can buy the a7 with kit lens , would they be better of buying a a6500 and 3 good lenses especially for the hobby photographer and video, what would you do if you only had £2500 to spend etc.
I will talk about that as well.
Hi! Does the Panasonic g9's back wheel can be customised to set the iso as the A7III can do? If it can be customised I will agree that the G9 is better in use. I thound that the function is very useful.
Yes, that is possible on the G9.
Great comparison!
Thank you!
Awesome video I think I will go with the Sony A7iii really hope I can get my hands on one soon. Keep in touch my friend really enjoying your content
The availability of A7III is still poor unfortunately, hopefully it will get better.
I was also looking at the Canon M50 I'm not sure what to get for my channel but I really want a new camera
I will make a review of M50 probably next week.
Thats awesome I can't wait for that Thanks so much for responding to me really enjoying your content and find it very helpful
@@OURWORLDTV you are deciding between a 500$ and a 2000$ camera? haha
I’ve had a G9 for a couple of years and I’d say it’s the best handling camera I’ve ever owned - and I’ve used many marques down the years.
I recently decided to try ‘full frame’ again via a second hand A7rii - initially with adapted EF lenses, which I’ve been slightly disappointed by. The experience with native primes (all Samyangs, but especially AF models) has been transformative.
I’ll likely carry on using both, but the resolution from the Sony r, adds just an extra point of differentiation along with phenomenal dynamic range and of course depth of field control.
I could wish for a Sony that had the ergonomics of the Panasonic, plus the incredible IBIS and some of the technological implementations of 4K shooting for stills. I can’t afford an S series Penny and the lenses I’d need for that system.
Overall I agree with just about all the points you make. I would perhaps also add that the all-round rubber/polycarbonate skin on the G9 is something I prefer. The Sony is looking tatty around the sharp edges where the paintwork tend to scuff (the same is true of my Olympus EM1) whereas Panasonic’s/other marques tend to look pristine for longer. A minor point, but worth mentioning.
Sony Mk II cameras were still "work in progress". Mk III camera would probably give you better overall impression, so that would probably be a worthy upgrade.
@@TheHybridShooter The A7II was a horrible experience, the A7RII was a much better camera. I ended up moving on to an EMX and a used S1, but I like the G9 and will probably purchase one as it is so similar to the S1. Does the A7III still have the greenish cast on the files like the II did?
@@jamesharvey44 no
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks
Well done analysis.
Thank you!
When you say FF look is achievable on G9 with "suitable lenses", which lenses did you have in mind? Did you mean solely with the aid of Speedbooster, or can one also achieve that look with native mft lenses like the Pana Leica 42.5 f1.2 or the oly pro 17mm f1.2 for example?
It is not completely clear what it "full frame look" so that is difficult to tell. F1.2 or F1.4 usually provide DOF that is shallow enough, although F1.4 or F1.2 on full frame is still another league.
Great head to head comparison. Really no clear winner as they are among the best in their FF and m4/3 class. I am tempted to add the A73, but will try to squeeze more out of the G9 first.
Thank you!
They cost about the same though which is why they are in the same price class, unfortunately m43 is leaning towards videography and enthusiast grade photography. Only because of the iso performance/lowlight and autofocus. Larger sensor more light. The A7iii is really as good as full frame can get. I used to be heavily invested in m43, had the gx8, gh4 and the leica line of glass. It wasn't enough for my work.
Difference between G9 and GH5?
Fab comparison. Refreshingly unbiased - which is seldom when FF and MFT are being put up against. I have a G9 and I am a fan of Olympus Pro lenses and their feathered bookeh and the tele capabilities of the Oly 40-150. Astonishing glass! Nonetheless I have an eye on Sony and their G Master lenses just for the ultra sharpness and creamy background for portraits. While the Olympus Pro lenses arent cheap at all, the Sony G Masters unfortunately do easily break the bank. Nonetheless: I always recommend investing in glass. Bodies come and go...
You don't need the G Masster lenses to get great picture quality on Sony, there is for example the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 for portraits, Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 is great all-round lens, Samyang also makes great AF lenses. All of those are actually much cheaper that Olympus Pro lenses.
The Hybrid Shooter Well, like I said, I like to put my money into glass. But you are right: there are more economical options than G Master lenses.
Most expensive lenses are not always the best lenses and not always worth the money.
Auto focus of the G9 has been improved. Overall the whole G9 has been improved. This video is great, but maybe a revision or a comment from the author?
It is possible that I will do so in the future.
4\3 sensor simply not enough in terms of image quality (noise in the shadows and low light even at low iso) and depth of field.
I really wish that Sony made the grip a tiny bit bigger like the G9. Also, remove the exposure dial, add the top LCD screen. And add the drive mode like the A9. That would be the dream comes true.
I only miss the drive mode dial, I never look at the top LCD on my G9 and it think that it is redundant in modern camera since you can see the information the main display.
Great video. But i still want both again. Like you said they are both great cameras. I have shot weddings with 4/3 with flash i was able to get great shots. But in a church it was tuff. I love Panasonic my first was a g7 and did a wedding with it and worked out great again with flash. I am torn do to budget. I have plenty of micro 4/3 lens so if i switch to sony i have to buy lens. Any recommendations on lens. Great video best one out there.
Thank you, for the A7 III there is now excellent Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 available, I have made a review here: bit.ly/Tamron28-75sony That and something like 70-200 F4 should cover your needs for wedding photography.
Hello my friend !
Lumix G9 is currently at 1400€ (even 1350€ after cashback) on alza.sk ! whereas Sony A7III is usually at 2300€ everywhere in EU... I am really tempted to pull the trigger with the G9... I own the G7 and the Fuji XT2. The G9 might be the right update for my G7 for video use and casual pictures shooting :) I really love my Fuji but I also love my micro 4/3 lenses and keep coming back to my loving Lumix :)
Love your content, looking forward to the next video !
Greetings from the french guy in Petrzalka !
Hello Julien!
Price of the A7 III in Europe is really unfortunate, I fortunately bought mine from Hong Kong, so it cost much less. 1 350 for the G9 is indeed very good price.
Yes, and I already made my order...! Will get my G9 tomorrow at Alza :)))
Good for you if you managed to get a good deal for your A7III because our fellow shooters in EU have a hard find getting their hands on Sony A7 or Nikon D850... it looks like EU is not a priority for the camera manufacturers...
Pekny vecer
I hope that you will like your G9, I bought my A7 III for about 2 000€ so it wasn't that terrible. Pekný večer to you as well!