ROTTR Development: Alternative Intro Animatics
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We could've seen Ana pretending to help Lara with therapy, when in reality she was manipulating her to stop her from getting closer to trinity. We would've empathized more with Lara in the plot twist, because in reality she hasn't recover yet, and she would find out Ana has been using her PTSD to take advantage of her.
I can't believe they scrapped this, the first scene is so good and ties into the first game so much better
One of my biggest gripes about Rise was that Lara's PTSD was practically completely ignored (despite being a prominent plot point in the cinematic trailer), and that there was practically no reference to the events of the first game. The first and second drafts of the opening scene we see in this video would have solved both of those problems, and would have been a very smooth segue between the end of the first game and the start of this one.
Hell, even just making the apartment scene we got be the opening scene rather than starting in the snowy mountains and then having a flashback would have been better. And before anyone berates me for being a hater, I still love the game and the entire trilogy! This was just one small thing that bothered me, that's all.
She never had ptsd sam did, lara jump straight to another adventure after yamatai
@@horacthy8577 it's pretty much showed in the trailer and comics that she does.
@@goro_majima98 it's not real
@@horacthy8577 did you read the comics?
@@goro_majima98 yeah
1:47 lol “lying about nightmares”
Seeing Ana as her therapist and also apart of Trinity would’ve been so cool to witness. Lara PTSD should’ve never been ignored that much in the games as it’s shown in the comics. I would’ve loved the ending scene too where she’s talking with Jonah!
if you read the book 'Tomb Raider: The Ten Thousand Immortals' which takes place between TR13 and Rise and is canon, you can read more about Lara's PTSD
Totally agreed. The PTSD element would make her even more human than they actually went for. What's more, we as players would care for her even more. Such a shame, but at least we know they tried.
Definitely better than her STEPMOTHER, which should presume a deeper relationship.
@@xmaa9x I actually enjoyed that book I was hoping the London scene where she was escaping trinity would be on rise of the tomb raider.
The only thing I dislike about Rise is how all of this wasn't explored in the main story. Based on the first trailer I really thought we would get deeper into Lara's mind and know how traumatized she was after Yamatai, maybe having some hallucinations or something that would trigger memories from the island, making her dissociate from reality, almost getting someone killed because she is snapping and really making us feel sorry for her. That would lead to some awesome character development and would make us feel even more connected to Lara.
Oh well, I still love Rise but this definitely should have been in the main story.
Especially what happened to the Endurance group, Sam, Jonah & Reyes? Did She try to reconnect with Them? Who knows...
Her PTSD would of being important to show what's inside Lara's head and how that helps builds an understanding of what She's going through. Trinity could of used this to their advantages, but We see less of this actually happen ingame.
It's annoying that they put PTSD/ Yamatai & Her friends within a Comic book, Talk about Narrative dissonance.
Too be honest Crystal Dynamics cannot form a coherent story without bad writing and watered down characters and separating plot points to a comic book, to save their hide. Rise and Shadow wasn't executed well than the first 2013 game did. Wasted Potential.
@@richardgriffiths6471 Exactly, Konstantin and Ana would have been better villains if they would sort of torture Lara's mind, we could actually have Ana feeling sorry for her and trying to stop Konstantin, but instead we get the dead father storyline as always, which no one gives a damn and made every character in the game be bland, including Lara.
They had it so well in the first game, it's a shame they couldn't keep it going.
This is giving me AOD vibes
Why the hell did they cut all of this out of the game and changed the story ? It was perfect 🤦🏻♂️
This is amazing! I want this as the opening for Rise! Really shows Lara's struggles with Yamatai
Would have been a better start to see Lara going for the prophet more to prove her nightmares rather than randomly ending up there this could have bridged the game better between 1 & 2 like the comics did
the fact that we could of gotten “i’m not fucking crazy” still makes me sad every time i think about it
This reminds me SO SO MUCH of what the team had in store for Lara in TR:AOD -- like the drinking problems after her near-death experience
I'm playing tomb raider underworld.. Great game
The best imo
i hate the clunky and abrupt movement animations in underworld.. everything else is pretty good but lara's movement breaks the immersion.
@@knight8513 yeah it could use a remaster
Oh wow, the first cinematic shown in this video is so good! I wish you kept it in the game :( AND THAT LAST ONE WITH THE UNI!!! OMG
These are really neat. I love the game that we got, but one of these scenes would have been a really good addition too. Either way this was really cool to see and I might just file one away to the back of my mind when I replay this again
The fact Lara's sessions of therapy became just a easily skippable audio document throughout the game is such a waste.
Yeah totally, and most of the game's lore is in those anyway which is pretty stupid IMO.
The fact that Ana was scripted to be her family's attorney... This would have been perfect to mention, it would have tied in so well to the movie. Just like the "go back to university" part.
Definitely like the first one the most. I think the 2nd to last one (that is in the game) was too brief and skimmed over. Also I like how they showed lara's paranoia in the first one where she thinks shes being followed but she isnt really. I would have liked more places showed in the final game in the city, like the streets or the university. The lack of, for example, the appearance of street cars or a city land marks/sky line disconnects the game from reality a little for me.
reminds me of the rise release trailer. it touches on her ptsd but definitely not to the extent of these cuts. would’ve been cool to see these completed in-game.
Tomb Raider fans we are a higher standard of beings.
This sets the scene so well! It shows the trauma she's dealing with and ties the game back to the first. Ana as her therapist I think works better than Ana as Richard's mistress. Why would they just copy Last Crusade beat for beat when they had some good ideas
Isso mostraria e exploraria tão mais os demônios internos de Lara após a ilha.
É realmente uma pena que tenha ficado de fora.
Mas não altera o fato de que Rise a cada ano que passa, melhora. Especialmente após o lançamento de Shadow. Em Rise teve um ritmo em sintonia com tudo que foi proposto em relação à Trindade. Gameplay melhorado, tumbas legais, mudanças visíveis nos upgrades das habilidades.
É um título que fez sentir um pouco de como a Lara antiga, seria nos tempos atuais.
OMG, this should have been the main focus of the game. Why not do tho?
A trilha sonora do começo do vídeo é inesquecível demais, explorar as tumbas com esse tema é muito marcante ♥️
So they scrapped all of this showing Lara being very human and very vulnerable in exchange of keeping her image with that of a super strong willed woman like the classics... But they couldn't give her her dual pistols back 🙄
This would actual have shown the trauma she got from Yamatai, and the rational decision of going to Siberia. In my opinion, this one would have been 1000x better than the one we got. Sorry
Almost anything would've been better than the story we got with that bland ass whiny shitbag version of Lara.
Hmm, I don't see Lara as character who will have a trauma from this kind of things. I think she's like James Bond, all about the mission and loyal to the style. That drinking thing and assault people at the bar is totally out of character.
@@jussi-pekkaturunen689 but that is the story we got. She did have trauma, that's the main point of the trilogy. Her trauma of Yamatai made her human and survivor. That was the mission of developers, to show her humanity and vulnerability. It was just not shown as it should. It should have been dug deeper.
@@LARACROFTNA Just my opinion about the character. I still respect the choice they eventually did.
Who wouldn't act irrational, especially when Lara send Her Friends to go to a Lost cursed Island, having to deal with the Pain & suffering You and seeing Her Friends die right infront of Her. A cult using Her best friend to resurrect a God. Killing Your way through 450 enemies. Nearly Died multiple times. Feelings of Survivor's Guilt after the ordeal. Now She is back in London. Tries to convince People the Truth of the events, but everyone thinks She's insane. Celebrity life is hard enough. You have paranoia, looking Over Your shoulder for Trinity, depression, You are basically cut off from Reality and downward spiral of guilt and isolation overcomes Lara. Who wouldn't go completely irrational.
The music reminds me a lot of AOD, and the entire thing shown here is interesting!
Omg next game better actually explore Lara’s ptsd
I wish I had played this part in a mini sandbox
V3 was the best imo. The last scene with Joanah on the phone would have been good as well
OMFG i clicked on this video, immediatey turned my head to second monitor to play my turn at Axie Infinity and BOOM video started loud af and it took the s* out of me LORD
This sketch is brilliant *_* thanks for bringing it to us all ♥
This looks very funny for Lara to react in this animatics🤣🤣🤣
It makes no sense to me that all of this was scrapped... If anything you could have fixed some things here and there (maybe you could remove the alcoholic part or the parts where she imagines her strangling her therapist lol) but to me scrapping this entire intro concept was a mistake.
Wait where was she imagining strangling the therapist lmao??
@@matthewpauls2498 2:02 , she's actually punching her, not strangling her (unless it's just a quick flashback where she's hitting someone else and I just misunderstood it lol)
@@naocchan95 yeah I think shes having flashbacks as her therapist mentions each thing
I guess a lot of this got cut early on when they continued their deal with Darkhorse comics, its still sad that the game never delves into her trauma besides some documents and the dlc
Whyyy would they cut this?! This is such a great opening that doesn’t ignore the trauma Lara went through. It would have made her character progression even stronger.
Why some pictures are censored ?
The lines are so cool. Animatics or animations are really hard to make. I tried to draw animations in FlipaClip when I was small, it was really hard. I made a video on my channel about these "animations", because I talked about stupid things I did in my childhood. As you can guess my animations were pretty stupid. How much time does it usually take to make? For my animatics it takes about 5-10 days to make. I don't make the same content as you, but I it also animatics. I know it takes a lot of efforts, especially, when you want to tell a story.I know that animatics are really hard to make. I usually struggle with the problem that I can't draw poses properly. Or when I need to draw any background it turns out harder than anything else. It's easier for me to draw my kind of animatics because I use a lot of ready-made images of myself. People's retention usually depends on the movements. As I know at least every 3 seconds there something should be moving. And yeah, that's why my program always crashes. I hope you don't have such problems!
the best soundtrack is Rise
These are really cool to see, but I prefer what we got in the game. The focus on PTSD is cool, but its very dark and what we got in the end still hints at it
My favourite Lara
yeah this would’ve been so much better lmfao
If this where the final version I would've liked rise much more. I hate the "mAh dad " plot. And screaming Jhonnaaaa everywhere on the third act
All this pessimism has been one of my main gripes with survivor reboot,
guess they managed to see that they were about to go too overboard with it even by their standards.
RotTR is great as it is, but seeing this is somehow sad because it had the potential to even greater and darker and deeper.
This is super interesting and cool to watch! and Ana's voice was so good 🥺
I love this so much better than the final cut
And once again, another reason why the PTSD storyline shouldn’t have been scrapped/reduced to voice recordings
We were robbed
This would have been better to see the PTSD from the first game and how it all affected Lara and seeing Ana we as the player could have felt more with Lara when she betrayed her because we'd have seen Ana as more of a friend before she betrayed Lara we as players would have felt bad for her rather than just seeing her out of nowhere.
Why was this cut??? 😭
I love rise the way it is but it would be quite interesting on how the cut story would work out like maybe longer? And the only 1 thing i hate about rise is there is no photomode i wish they can patch in a photomode just like shadow :)
Now I need "Rise of the Tomb Raider: Director's Cut"
The first and last concept would've been so much better 😭😭😭💚
They should have kept that..
Very interesting stuff.Rise is my favorite Lara game👍
Drinking problems? Really? The rest I can jive with, but the drinking feels out of character.
People often drink just to cope with trauma
It’s such a shame that these weren’t included. In Tomb Raider 2013, she was a more fleshed out character than people give her credit for, beyond the parent drama that people griped about. Reading the endurance crew’s logs gives insight on the type of person Lara was before the yamatai excursion. TR2013 is a game about not just Lara’s ascension to becoming the hardened archaeologist we know, but it’s also a story about responsibility. She goes from being flippant and naive before the trip to taking it upon herself to try and save everyone in Yamatai. She lost a lot of people and experienced an abundance of physical trauma so it makes sense that she would spiral the way she does in these cutscenes.
I prefer this one :’)
Rise best game for me 💝
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Kind of glad they scrapped these alternatives. Lara as depressed and alchoholic is just too bleak, and I think the Ana plot twist works better if she is closer to Lara than just being her therapist.
I do wish they'd keep Ana as british as some of these versions, though.
You mean showing the natural results of having severe PTSD seems to depressed? Congratulations.
@@shrnschmcher yeah people seem to not understand how mental health work.
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To this date the Internet is full of people who think Survivor Lara is too weak and whiny. There is no reason to think so just because a character openly portrays emotions. Either way, I guess these comments from players and press were reason enough why devs skipped putting a greater focus on Lara‘s PTSD in Rise.
There's a difference between emotional and whiny. She's both.
@@SvobodovaEva she never whine? and if you mean whiny cause she is being impaled I would want to see you in her boots.
@@goro_majima98 No, whiny cause she wants to save everyone all the time, whiny when she rescues her companions (Saaaaam, Jonaaaaah) and whiny as hell about everything concerning her father. Just to name a few.
@@SvobodovaEva how wanting to save everyone makes her whiny? And calling her friend's name? I can understand the daddy issues.
@@goro_majima98 When she talks about saving someone/everyone, she whines. It got better in Shadow where she sounded more angry and frustrated than whiny. I guess it's a personal preference, I don't like any of the cutscenes and I can't stand Camilla's voice, I put the game in french (my third language that I barely speak) just so I can avoid Camilla 😅 Shadow was a lot better than the other two but still miles away from what a mature Lara should sound like.
Wanted see this game on ps3
:/
Oh, what this trilogy could’ve been…
First!💕🤗
First one
These would have been so much h better! Connecting the 2 games more!!! Rather than just having them hint that there was even a game before this. Showing Lara actually struggling with her demons rather than acting like she is perfectly fine after the expedition. Showing her flaws and her ptsd. Sucks square wasn’t willing to go there with the game, and you can tell in the final product. Rise is good don’t get me wrong, but it lost so much of the grit and the adult ness of the first game, as well as its deep and dark undertones. Maybe one day we will see this Lara done right.
I'm just glad this so-called "reboot" is over, I was overjoyed back when rise of the Tomb Raider was released and they said the reboot was a trilogy only, and even more so when they repeated that at the release of Shadow furthermore stating in mo uncertain words that there will be no more "reboot" games, but fear not delusional people, they did say they're making an anine series with the bogus "new Lara".😄
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@@stevenayala7098 Much like I couldn't care less about your "comment" here 😄
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@@stevenayala7098 🤣😄😅