Golf Cart Hop Up for speed and torque off road - see description too!
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- THIS IS HOW TO SPEED UP YOUR GOLF CART: READ THIS!
The power train Hop Up of this cart is complete. A big THANK YOU to everyone who helped me out on the Buggies Gone Wild site! This is how you make your golf cart faster...MUCH faster! New Motor, Speed Controller, Solenoid, Wires, Tires, Wheels, Lift kit, Various gun racks and lights. This video will cover the power train parts and where I got them all is listed below. I will say that the all sports lift is VERY hard riding. The front end is also unstable at higher speeds off road with very little articulation and a lot of forward and back slop in the a-arms causing a lot of side to side drift in the front end. It is a great price for what you get, but you might be better off to save up for a better kit unless this one is just for show at the campground.
Phase 1 video covering the lift is here: • Phase 1 Hunting Cart B...
This cart has a ton of torque and plenty of power for hill climbing, towing, hauling etc and still runs about 24-25 MPH. It is a great off road hunting buggy. Please tell these people below that Scott from CZcams sent you!
Parts:
#2 Welding cable set: www.eastcoastcarts.com
Altrax DCX 500 Speed Control and : www.cartsunlmited.net
Motor: www.empinc.biz (Chuck is a huge help!)
Extra long brake cables (needed with the 8" lift and 23" tires) found Gary on Buggies Gone Wild Site
Great advice and a lot of information and learning took place here: www.buggiesgonewild.com
Gun Rack (Very Secure and removable!): goo.gl/DvId7k
lights for the rear: 8W LED works great for woods backing at night! goo.gl/XAH1a4
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I don't know anything about golf carts; but I love that the dog stayed put! Nice training.
Thanks man. He's a great dog. :-)
Thank you for the plug for BGW. I've been looking for ways to speed up my cart. That web board has loads of info.
6 Jefes It really does. It's a great resource!
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That’s awesome
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I liked the low level hi speed passes motor install was good too.
Thanks @jimranger11 I appreciate that. This cart is still going string. I even put a ATV spray unit on the seat for spraying the yard and food plots!
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I have the same motor on my cart it screams I love it!
Scott Us too! We still have it as shown here and it still runs great. (I did put new batteries in it finally though.)
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If you don’t mind how much was it to do the motor? I’m really thinking of doing the same things you did bc mine is so bad with hills
Mulligan I honestly don't recall now but I want to say about $750. It's been a while. Call Electric Motor Products in OR and talk to them about it. Mine still runs great.
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Scott, did you ever get a range on the cart with all of the upgrades? Please include an approximate weight of everything in the cart (including people) if possible. I'm interested in building one of these but I need to make sure it can cover about 5 miles.
I don't really have a place to put that much on it at once so no. As far as weight, I don't know what the cart weighs but figure about 700# for 3 of us, plus 3 guns, gear bags, and dragging a deer that weighs 125#+ No problem, including hills.
Hey Scott. I have a 92 with resister coils. 36v am I just screwed? Or can this type of up grades be done on mine ?
That, I couldn't tell you but I would think you could just convert the whole thing to 48V since you are going to be buying all new guts anyway. Search out converting 36v golf cart to 48V and start there.
I just ordered the high speed torque motor for a club car from Pete's Golf Carts... the nice thing , this site details the type of cart the motor will fit.
Nathan Welch Very cool. Don't forget the speed controller, etc, and even bigger wires. It all has to work together.
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@@scottnra Great suggestion, I was able to cancel the order and get a full kit!
You used #2 welding cable to replace all battery wire?
Yes. They are sold now as a set and run a lot cooler when you are sucking a lot of amps. amzn.to/2KpyDxG Most 48V carts can use the same wires.
I have 2011 ezgo it is some slow going up hill and I am a big fella. 48v.any ideas how to get it to go uphill better
Ryan Wallace The motor company I worked with can build you one that will do a great job and help you program your SC for more torque for climbing hills. Links in the description below the video to help you them. EMP products. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on CZcams. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/
I have a 1988 ezgo electric golf cart that just stopped running? I will not go forward or backward when I push down on the accelerator. The batteries are fully charged but the cart will not move. I do not hear the solenoid clicking when I push down on the accelerator? Should I replace the solenoid or is there another problem I am not seeing?
+jack ludwig If you don't hear the solenoid click that is probably it. Go ahead and get a heavier one. I burned mine up when I put the new speed control on. (Knowing that was likely to happen) My cart upgrades went a little at a time. I think there are links to parts in the description below the video.
+Scott Gregg
thanks for your reply. after charging the batteries for 24 hours I now get a clicking sound from the solenoid but it still does not run. I have 36V on one side of the solenoid but no voltage on the other side so I have concluded the solenoid is not working and will replace it. If that doesn't fix the problem I am not sure where else to look.
What size lift do you have on it? Nice Ride!
jrandpeggyful It's an 8" All Sports lift. I'm actually not really happy with it. It would be fine for a campground setting, but at speed it's not stable in the front end and rides rough as hell off road. I plan on moving to a long travel kit when I can to get the same lift and a safer ride.
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What spedometer app are you using
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I have an EZ GO 36 volt golf cart that I have put 6:1 gear ratio differential. Also Alltrax 400 amp controller and heavy duty forward/reverse switch. I have also put 4 ga cables I can run at 28 mph on level road but not enough power on hills. My question is what do I need to do to change to a 48 volt system. I don't need more speed, just more torque on hills.
Probably a new motor unless yours can handle 48 check your speed controller and sol to make sure they are good for 48V along with the 48V battery pack. That might do it.
I had a similar setup in my EZGO TXT except I had a 500 amp controller. I converted to 48V. I then had to upgrade my Solenoid (MJZ400 Super Duty Solenoid from cartsunlimited.net because the "HD" solenoid - which was a 48v solenoid failed within a few months) and an HD F&R switch from cartsunlimied (because the standard F&R switch also failed after the switch). No problems since.
I run 42 volts in my Alltrax. I was able to run 32 mph, flat ground with a 8" independent suspension lift and 23" tires.. I run Miata/Hyundai/AP Racing brakes. The steering was stupidly twitchy. I have reprogrammed it for a 24 mph max now. Much safer for the other family members.
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Thanks for the information. What range do you get out of the battery’s and is that a 36v set up?
mccreja45 It's a 48V cart. I'm not sure of the range as I've never tested it but my son ran it all day on the old batteries at his hunt club on a work day and it never ran out. He had a lot of miles on it that day I'm sure.
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How many miles on a full charge so by get now???
Never checked it by miles. I guess it would depend on terrain. I know it will go a couple days on one pretty good without charging working around the property.
Greeg I have sane set up i did in 08 for some reason today my cart stop dont know y any idea I was just driving slow for haft hr cart stop now it won't do anything had to tow home could be coil what you think I have same control 500 V I did haft lift can do 35 I noticed you put fuse at end of battery mine is at beginning of 🔋 battery's
Did you wire it to properly charge? a current has to go through the computer to show it for it to charge correctly. Other than that I'm not sure.
I did the same but my club car can go 35 .I also changed gear In transmission i did 6 yrs ago had on trouble.
Heck 25mph is dangerous with my lift haha
Hey what did you do to make your cell a speedometer i need to test the speed in my cart
+William Skaggs It's just an AP. They are easy to find and several of them are free. It is kinda cool.
+Scott Gregg can explain to me a little more what do you look for in APP's
just put in speedometer or a special words when it comes to these cell phones i'm doing good just to make a call
thank you
William
What app are you using on your phone to clock the speed?
+Pianogirl 124 It was just a speedo ap I found. I don't have it on there anymore. There are a bunch of them.
Digi HUD has a thing that you can reflect it off your windshield so it displays in the glass it's pretty cool if your in an old farm truck without dash lights
I am thinking about purchasing a 2009 ezgo cart. asking 4500 hundered. it's lifted it looks in great condition with speakers etc. however I think the batteries are the original. how long do the batteries last and how much much would be to replace them all on an average.
+Xavier Vel Well kept batteries can easily go 8-10 years. I know a guy on 10 year old ones now. Charge after every use and keep the water up correctly will help. Keeping it indoors in the winter when not in use helps too. That sounds like a pretty good deal.
+Scott Gregg I'm looking at this 2009 ezgo. It's 6 years which would be borderline. how can I see if the batteries are well kept?
+Xavier Vel You really can't. You can check the water level in them now though. Are they relatively clean or are they a mess with acid and corrosion everywhere? How about the cart? You can usually tell by looking around under the seat if it's been well kept by the overall condition in there. A really good set of batteries goes about $900
MY CLUB CAR DS RUNS 33 MPH, AND IT DOES NOT OVER HEAT AT ALL. MOTOR IS FAN COOLED. I BOUGHT THE MOTOR AND CONTROLLER FROM D+D MOTOR SYSTEMS. THEIR MOTORS ARE TOP QUALITY.
sounds dangerous to me for a golf cart to go that fast. I would not want any of my children driving it.
What kind of price was it for the motor and speed controller
just asking, what do you mean about mph? meter or mil. im sorry i was confused lol
Which D&D motor how many horsepower
Very cool!
Thank you sir for the video. I just bought a 2011' Club Car very nice condition to use for hunting for $1,500.00, but when I charge it, it will only charge halfway or less. We can drive it around the yard several times then it goes dead, Any suggestions please sir?
Sorry Scott it is a EZGo and the batterys are #2A45N1 what ever that means. I don't see any dates anywhere on them.
Smoking good price u bought that for.
I think that batt is 2011. Look up on line how to read those nimbers and letters. Do you have a multimeter?
Buy new batteries. Those are dead. Sulphated.
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If you want an extra 6 mph, the FSIP Torque motor is rated at 30 mph
Heck man with this crappy lift, the thing isn't really safe at 25! lol. I'll have to look into it once I replace with a long travel lift.
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I just came across this. I have a club car A98 model number. I looked for the DCX500 controller and am having trouble finding it. Is it still available?
matt surber I'm not sure. Check the links below the video and contact one of those companies
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echte broer
No idea what that means haha
How much do you have in speed upgrade parts?
Kris Robitzsch Not sure at current pricing but the speed controller, Solenoid, wires and motor are pretty much everything for that. Probably around $1500~. Thank you for watching. I've got some really cool stuff coming too! click the "bell" icon to get notified of new videos posted every week. You can also check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/
Does anyone use lithium battery packs? Smaller, lighter, more amps if needed depending on the parallel configuration. What is the amp output of your circuit? You said 51 v, so these are apparently in series. I'm sure this is the least expensive option the way you have it hooked up, but it would be cool to see like a 12s 10p battery setup with lithium 18650 Batts, maybe even push the voltage higher with an extra circuit you could switch off and on for the turbo action!! Anyway, cool cart. I'm going to be grabbing one soon to tootle around here on and I'm trying to decide between gas and electric. Both appeal to me, so I'm weighing options.
Nurzrachit I chose electric because I wanted quiet and simple, and no gas. Mine is working great and doing all I need done. Not sure on Amp output, and really would rather spend money in a lift upgrade than battery conversion to Lipo....
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how many inches is that lift kit?
+Marcos Mojica 8" It is stiff though.
I'm in the maintenance department at work and the golf course gives us an electric golf cart to use. I hear we need a programmer to make it go faster but I'm wondering if you have any simple hacks for that. It goes pretty slow and all the other ones are a lot faster. Please help if you know how without a bunch of modifications so I don't get yelled at. Thanks!
It is possible that the speed sensor is gone...my cart speed dropped down to about 5 mph. I purchased a new sensor off Amazon for 45 bucks and installed it myself. Takes about 10 minutes to change out...
Adjust the governer
laptop
I'm thinking you'll need to get into the programming with a laptop and proper software. Probably can get it from the mfg'er
How long does the charge last typically?
Juan Motorsports I've never ran it out. I've done about 5 miles on mine without a problem.
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I have a golf car but not electric.. Its a gasoline. Can you pls tell me if how far can it travel without stopping
Andrei, I'm not sure. I've run it for a few years now an not run out. I have a new battery pack in it now and have not tested that part out. If I did, I'll need a tow back to the house haha. I'd guess at least 5 miles if not 10! I would also think a steady discharsge would be harder on the pack than and stop and go type day.
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I just installed an All Tracks 500amp controller with a Flight Systems 4kw speedey motor. Also switched to Lithium. 35mph. It’s nasty. 😂
Ballsoutwilly Man that's COOOOOOL!!! That stuff was not out when I built mine. Once I redo the lift on this thing to something more stable, I might have to look into that. How's your Torque? I have many times with 3 guys, gear and a deer or two tied to this thing going up and down hills...
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Any update on the torque on this set up, how is it after all.
Aurelio Sanchez still running strong. I was originally running 23” tires with 14s getting 35mph at 5200rpm. I’ve reduced to 22” road tires with 12s. I’m at 37mph. At over 6000rpms. I think she’s maxed boys.
Scott Gregg torque is unmatched but I have 10-1 gears...
Scott Gregg I don’t recommend the 23” tires with 14s. If you do a 6” lift like I have I’d use 22” tires with 12” wheels. When I got rid of the 23s it increased my torque 30%.
I need torque to pull a boat and trailer up the boat ramp. I need to gear down my 48 volt motor and differential, weight about 750 pounds.
Get a hold of the motor guy in the link below the video. Tell him what you need and he'll put you together a package that can do it great! (EMP is the company)
I put an AllTrax 400 amp controller, a D+D 7HP motor(Torque) on my TXT, and it'll pull a house off the foundation. Wheelies if I stomp it.
MegaDawg342 That motor might not have been out when I built this one. What is the top speed you're getting?
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I have a Yahama Drive,that my best speed one time was 32,any time I get to 30 my controller cuts it back.
I average 28/29 and quite frankly is plenty.
+Micheal Trevino With my lift kit, 25 is borderline dangerous. 30 would be insane. This kit is great for low seep but the front end had way to much drift in it especially on uneven terrain.
I agree, my cart is not lifted but I managed to get 205/ 65/ 10s on it without rubbing.
I use my cart for work in a golf cart community, and drive on road.
One nice thing about the Drive it comes stock with internal disk breaks.
I bartered for the cart and it was customized by the seller,it is a 2012 but I do not know what he included in his build as far as performance.
I added heavier wires and it has amazing range,I can use it all day and still play 9 holes in evening before dark.
I seen your review on the allsport lift and followed your link here. I have a few questions for you. It says I can use 10" rims only? I bought 12" rims and 23" tires for mine. will that work?
where can I buy the extended break lines?
with the 8" allsport lift is there any other special things I'll have to do? thanks!
+Justin C I don't know about the tires, they might rub a bit on turning if the rims are not offset enough but I just don't know. There should be contact info and links to stuff in the description below the video including info on the brake lines. I had to fabricate a plate to connect them under the cart to the mount though. No big deal. The biggest thing to know about the All Sports lift is that is rough riding and very unstable when going fast. I love it for coolness and ground clearance, but would probably save my money and use a different lift next time. Hope that helps
Awesome thanks for the info. What other lifts are out there? I'm unable to find any other name brand lifts that go up to 8". I wanted a Jakes lift but they only make up to 6".
+Justin C That I don't know. Hit the forums. someone will know where the really good stuff is for sure. Buggies gone wild was a great resource for me.
WHAT YEAR IS IT 36 VOLT
97, 48V
your speed controller can adjust how fast you go, check your instructions it might have a few settings.
mike t Yes sir it does. It can be programed for I think 6 or 7. I've chosen one that gives it about 25mph while still having enough torque to do real work at lower speeds.
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Scott, have you looked into noco genius 4 40A 4 stage charger? Its working wonders on my cart.
I have not but I'm all ears. What makes it so special or better than the original one?
The gen 4 quicky charges each deep cell batt to 6.2 exactly. Then trickle charges with a pulse to help recondition batt. Pretty cool, its water proof too.
I just got a 1999 EZ GO TXT DCS.......I want what u have as far as the speed and torque....do i just need to upgrade my motor and that's it?? how much was just your motor?, im looking for a ball park price range..thanks
Links to everything are in the description below the video. When you upgrade the motor you are going to have to get the Speed controller and Solenoid and wires to handle the extra amps too and keep stuff running cool. I put in the SC and Sol first and melted down the stock motor on the second day haha.
Why not drop in a small motorcycle engine?
Well for starters if I wanted a gas side by side I'd have bought one of those. haha. I wanted to build and electric so it would have no noise and virtually no odors. This does all I need to do, never have to worry about it starting, running out of gas, changing oil, etc.
Funny thing about gas motors, they push all the deer away, or at a minimum let them know you're there. A gas engine is not for hunting,...maybe recovery, but not getting to your stand/blind
Why not gut it and put in a 670ect. plenty of room and strong enough suspension.
Partially because I have no idea what that even is... :-) I'm all ears though. I have right much invested in this now and my biggest issue s the crappy suspension. going to a long travel as soon as I can.
Where are the links for the accessories
Cory Freeman In the description below the video. Click the "show more" button to get to the rest of it.
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You should have installed a Plum Quick motor. After all they hold the world record for fastest golf cart in the 1/4 mile at 103mph.
Just One More Didn't need speed. Needed a mixture of faster plus offroad torque for pulling hills, dragging deer and hauling us and our gear.
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An Ezgo RXV A/C drive with a 8.5to1 gear will go about 32 mph and only costs about $500 for the upgrade. But nice cart
Willie Guzman 32 on this buggy, with this lift/tire combo would get you a quick ambulance ride. Way too unstable. I will do a better lift on the next one. You don't want this one going over about 25 anyway and that is pushing it. But it will climb a tree with torque!
Cool cart
If I was to get that speed controller with stock motor how long will it hold up? Maybe put a temp gauge on it
Well mine made it about 3 miles. haha. I put the new SC and Solenoid on after frying the original sol with the big tires. Inside 3 miles of hard running the motor burned up. (as is goo running out and dang near on fire) Plan on a motor upgrade. It's well worth it. This thing will almost climb trees. haha Links are in the description below the video.
Well figured it was worth a shot but guess I better not till I have the money for a motor thanks for the info.
What is max rpm on kawasaki engine?
Not sure, this is a 48V electric cart
3000 rpm on 92 club car.
How much for your 5th Avenue...
Haha, That was my daughters first car. It's long gone now but she had it for about 4 years. It was a classic boat for sure. Thanks for watching!
Veloster
What is that?
I wish I can get mine that fast
Flyersfan77 No need to wish. There are links in the description below the video to help you get what you need. Thank you for watching! Make sure you follow us on our FB page here: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/ I usually post what's coming up there as well plus other channel insight and content not on CZcams. Also Instagram at instagram.com/scottgregg1966/
I'd drop in a Cave Man Special 500 V-8 in that baby.
Hell Yeah, Crate motor! Lots of Chrome! haha.
There is a difference between torque (power) and traction. Traction is determined by weight and tire size (if any difference).
Torque is how much power it takes to turn those wheels when you are getting traction. Traction is GREAT with these. With this setup and current programming it will top out at about 23MPH, and go 10+mph up a fairly steep hill with 3 men and gear on it. PLenty of power for what we are doing with it.
Dennis Koyle
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Trying to fix up my 69 Harley Davidson three wheel golf cart
I'll bet that will be COOL!
Scott... Give me a way to send a picture to you... You will want to see this...
Mike....
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He who has the fastest golf cart has the best lie!
I Like it! I need all the help I can get!
Jack ,sometimes it's a bad tow haul switch.
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can you let me know why my club cart speed control cable getting very hot any time step on tun red and very hot all the cable
Nope, but you better get it looked at before you catch the thing you are sitting on on fire.
Cables get hot 🔥 too light use ot 2 or ot 1 cables
Look up DHX Machine they can make you cart go faster.
Dan thing is dangerous now with that lift kit at top speed haha. I need the hill climbing deer dragging torque as much or more than speed. It's a trade off. Thanks for watching. You can check out & follow the FB page for updates, suggestions, etc: facebook.com/scottgreggoutdoors/
Scott Gregg That’s what they make. You won’t loose torque even if you go up hill. Their motors are high torque and don’t weigh 50 pounds it’s only 12 pounds.
Very nice, what is your username on BGW?
Thanks! Scottnra. I'm on there kind of hit and miss. :-)
+Scott Gregg Ok gotcha, I've actually replied to some of your threads. Nice cart you have there!
see I thought about making my electric cart faster.. but I need new batteries. and by the time I buy new batteries and an engine then i can already convert to gas cart where I can have a Max speed of so much more with more power and range. without the hassle of charging and over heating and for half the price
True...but mine is quiet. :-) THat's what I was going for or I would just buy a side by side UTV and forget it.
lol true. it was hard to decide whether to go gas or electric but its crazy how much batteries cost and really all of the parts for electric upgrade. its like $500 for a good motor, $400 for the controller, $800 for batteries. but i would like to have both an electric and gas. the only thing is you can a gas one while using the electric motor axle and basically just have to re run the throttle and attach an engine and gas tank. so total of about $800. cheapest utv i find is in the thousands.. why is all of this stuff so expensive!?
I figure I have about $3k in it and could probably sell it for 5K. Batteries to me are Gas and oil changes that lasts for 8 years. But I certainly get it.
yes I will probably spend $800 A year on gas but In return I get longer drive time and allot more torque and power. that's really what i wanted. i was going to do an electric with solar panels on the roof. (another $800) to increase range by almost 75% but having 20hp in A 400cc engine just seemed to overwhelm me with joy
Put a Tesla motor in it! They aren't much bigger than golf cart motors and way over 300 HP
Pass haha
You need a tesla motor...that thing is gutless.
You mean "Brushless"? I wonder what that costs...
Mine gets up to 19 no mods only lift kit
I'd have to see that....but it sounds cool
you are on a downward driveway,
Not both ways and it's very slight...
Its not a computer.. its just a relay and like a clamp on ammeter.. if you just run a leg through the hole it has a magnetic sensor that triggers the relay to charge. Not smart enough to be called a computer..
Z Ack Haha, neither am I. I get it though, you're correct of course.
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who mods a golf cart??? smh
Seriously? You should get out more haha
Then why are u watching the video??? People are soo annoying
in dog language sit down is 2 commands
sit and down....confusing to dogs
frog face it's all good. he knows. I spend more time with him than most people spend with their kids. haha.
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@@scottnra most dog owners do.
but free advice is always an advantage
instead of rebuilding one why don't we just go buy good one that will beat yours
Well sometimes people just like to build things themselves. And sometimes it for money. Yeah, lots of things can "beat mine" but I've got about $3500 in it...not $10K and it does what I need it to do.