How To Add Torque to Golf Cart | Navitas 440a / 600a Controller | Club Car DS & Precedent Golf Cart
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In this video I install the Navitas 600a controller and this is the same as the 440a controller as well. I also install the "OTF" On The Fly Controller and Show you how to program different functions on the Bluetooth Enabled App. The Navitas Controller gives us a new top speed, extra torque and security all built in the bluetooth controlled app and at the control of your fingertips!
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Thank you for putting together this awesome video on the Navitas controller and app! I've been searching online for this information and you provided everything I needed to know. I really liked it when you asked "Do I like this controller?" and answered "No, I love it!" Keep up the good work.
You keep going like this and you will be ready for the Daytona 500. Great job and enjoy your cart.
Wanted to thank you for these videos as you have helped me tremendously. I found through a columbmeter the navitas motor is about 60% more efecient then the stock club car motor.
I just installed one of these on my 2019 Precedent and this video was much more helpful that the instructions from Navitas. The instruction manual was in black and white, small print and very hard to read and understand. Thanks for the video.
I am abt to initiate with a Quad electric conversion with a 46V Club cart motor and this Controller. I have seen literally all tutorials on youtube and only this one shows specific details and directions...Great job. Thank you so much!
Great video! Thanks for sharing install and real performance gains with all the settings. Subbed!
My upgrade, Taylor Dunn forklift speed controller which changed the amperage from 274 to 400 amp, upgraded the cables 02 and happy with the torque and speed. worked on the Taylor Dunn SS5-34 stepsaver.
How much did that cost you and where did you find the controller?
Ok just installed this entire package. I love it. I have a 6 seater with 24” tires and 14” wheels. I MAXED out all settings and RPMs and I have a top speed of 32MPH. Most importantly the torque is way up! Plus it sounds awesome.
The otf and controller? Did you also get a new motor or keep original motor? How fast were you previously?
Did you get a new motor?
@@EricInTampaAcoustic I got the entire NAVITAS system with the largest controller. 32mph.
@@yasugi0153 Yes sir....the whole system 32mph. If I add 4 lithium’s in the future, I’ll save tons of weight and pickup more speed and distance.
I tried the Silver Wolf conversion and it was nothing but trouble. I’m not sure if it couldn’t handle the power of my lithium batteries or what. So it went back and I got the Navitas. I’ve got 20 inch tires and I’m now hitting speeds over 35 (flat surface) and maintain 32 on an incline with a full cart. Great system and highly recommend.
Um excelente tutorial meus parabéns
Great video!
Did you upgrade the cables as well or did you leave them stock 6 gauge?
Love the videos man! Question. After installing the Navitas 600a controller you were able to get your cart up to 35mph with the plumquick bandit motor upgrade?
Great video bud!
Thanks Man
@@Fentertainment great video.. I just installed the 600 amp controller a new high speed admiral motor and a upgraded selinoid, in my 2013 48 volt txt. The tire size is 215 50 12. I bought the entire kit from golf cart King he said that he calibrated the controller to the motor before he shipped it, but to be honest with you Ryan,I am very unhappy with the speed. I only got one more mile an hour out of the cart and the torque is not that much more is there anyway you can help. I called golfcartking and Barry said that the motor needs to break in but I've have broken the motor and I drove it all day yesterday I inquired about the dealer app but very over at golf cart King said that that wouldn't be necessary
I just got an AC icon golf cart 48v with 350a controller and 4kwh motor, will there be noticeable torque increase with the 600a controller? I have lot of steep hills and struggle up them, hoping to get more torque and keep speed the same. Didn’t see how to adjust torque on the video just the speed, is the acceleration the torque control?
Thanks for the video - I keep seeing posts/videos combining Club Car DS & Precedent but the wiring is very different. I am trying to convert to lithium and from a Curtis 350A controller to a Navitas 600A controller. Have no idea how y'all figured out the wiring
Great video only one question When you run it at max rpm and max throttle does that motor get hot ? 🤔
Does the regular version of the app allow you to set your speed, regen and accel like the on the fly controller does?
So I have a 2006 Precendent stock everything. Would I benefit getting one of these to increase my torque and top speed using the stock components? If so which one would I need?
I need to know how to access behind the lower section of the dash. Thanks
Can you program this controller with the regular app or do you have to have the dealer app.I can’t get it to do anything with the regular app. Also do I need that special resistor I didn’t have one on my stock controller. Thanks
Fred
Thank you so much for this video deff gonna hopefully upgrade both to the plum motor and this chip also what’s the best motor you can get for a 48v club car precedent
Just recieved my plumquick motor PH Bandit back from Robby. It took alot longer than i though it was going to take but due to workload. I have a 2009 48v CCP. Cart is all stock with 1 year old batteries and i had 27mph out of it last weeknd. I totally recommend the motor upgrade but be prepared to wait or call and get a time line out of Plumquick prior to sending.
Just did the navitas controller on my yamaha g22 limo and tuned all the way up with stock motor and new batteries I got up to 34mph.
I have a alltrex 600amp controller paired with a 12hp high torque motor. 99 club car ds
If i switched to the navitas 600 amp would i see any difference from the alltrex?
Did you run the wires from the dashboard unit underneath the cart to get to the controller?
Can you use it if you have a Roy Pow lithium battery? And not standard batterys
Sorry to bother you, maybe I misunderstood but just out of curiosity what is the cut out in the back of the golf cart by the controller used for?
Big fan of your channel. I just installed a new motor and FISP controller but somehow reverse is twice as fast as forward. Hoping you can tell me what I did wrong
Do they make an a/c conversion kit for a 2002 yamaha g19 golf cart?
Hi Ryan. The course i play at as a member is quite hilly, would this be a good upgrade to cope with this type of terrain?
Yes club car precedent. If I have the controller turned up and I take a slow it’s fine if I put it to the floor it’s fine if you try to takeoff about medium at Buck’s like somebody learning how to drive a standard
Will it do the same in reverse? If so almost sounds like a mcor. If not have your calibrated your throtte.
On my app dashboard it says I’m in Reverse no my what direction I put it in. About 1/10 times pressing the pedal it will go reverse or forward but otherwise it does nothing. Dashboard also says “both direction switches, run time errors. And start up errors”. 05 precedent. Please help!
i like your all vides
Buen video, muy bien explicado,
gracias por ver, me alegro de que lo disfrutaras
how fast is F key car? it looked fast but was wondering if you clocked it in MPH
Well done
Awesome.
In trying to find the selinoid for this. I blew mine on second outing. Please help.
Great video! Question for you.... I just got a 2011 Club Car 48v all stock but lifted and 22 inch tires. I have a big hill in my neighborhood. Do you recommend controller first or motor? Trying to figure out what to do. PS Plum quick is right next to where i live.
5 mo. late, but for others...I called golfcartkings in Austin TX. Techs explained controller gets you the torque, little speed, motor gets you speed, little torque. Get which ever you desire first. Im reading reviews where 440 amp controller with stock motor gets about 8mph more, not much info on just the 600 amp and stock motor. However, I just bought the 600 amp and when I burn up my motor, will replace🇺🇲🤟
does this help with uphill climbing?
I just installed a navitas 440 on my Yamaha g29 with a stock motor when hit 20mph it feel like it sputters any clue is it because it’s a stock motor?
Can this new controller add speed to stock motor?
Does it matter if the hole in the back gets wet when you have to cut the plastic to get it to fit
Thank you for the great video. Where does the controller wire running from the dash go? Under the cart or under the mat?
Great question! I'm in the middle of install and can't figure out how to get that wire and plug back to the battery compartment
Wait I’m confused. Are you running motor and solenoid on stock?
Ryan-I'm looking for more speed going up and down hills. I have a 2007 Club Car Precedent and it has a DC motor which slows it going up and down hills. Will this Controller help?
The navitas ac conversion would be the way to go. I have done that video as well. It doesnt loose speed going up highs now.
How do I know the speed settings on the app for my golf cart
Hello I have a 2016 precedent with the bandit upgrade can u send me the link for the 600 amp controller and the on the fly switches? Thank you joe
Its in the description of the video man
What part of Carolina? I’m from Lancaster
have you had any problems with the controller and the bandit motor?
plum quick said I would have to get my a map from Navitas? did you have to do anything like that
Pretty sure that's what happens when you download the firmware in the app.
Hi I have a question for u do u sell carts to
Can a person lift the seat, unplug something and take the cart anyway?
I need some help desperately please, I'm being trying to get my golf cart faster but not success. its a 36V, and Batteries are good, but a Change cables, new Solenoid, put new Navitas controller 600amp and car still going slow specially on small hills here at the neighborhood, i dont want it to go crazy fast i just want to go on small hills like 10 to 15mph. right now i think that maybe it will go 5mph in a small hill. some one running beside me can go faster. I still have the stock motor but i tough that installing just the new Navitas will see a little bit of improvement but still the same. Any help will be really appreciated.
U know where I can get a golf cart from a website?
Great video!! I have the very same cart 2013 Precedent with a bandit motor, where do I purchase the 600A controller?
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Navitas controllers will lock up on you if you do not have it set right..i recommend low regen amd acceleration of less than 35% unless you running an Li pack
How reliable is this thing I wanna recommend to my dad but he won’t bite if it isn’t quality
How do I download the dealer app on my iphone? Can you please make a video on that? The video was extremely helpful, but I can’t figure out how do download the dealer app.
You have to contact the company or a company employee.
What controller do you recommend 600 or 440
Just bought one - used - app shows it preset to 25 mph - I can’t change the RPM speed up to 6500 - how do I unlock it for up to 30 mph ?
Great info and videos! What is the AC conversion package for?
AC conversion is more efficient, more power, more torque, longer run time, more constant speed up hills and im hoping to do that to this cart soon.
@@Fentertainment You selling your old controller when you do the switch?
@@dyoel182 I'm not sure yet. I still have the factory controller as well just in case i run across a broken cart.
Great video - I also have a Plum Quick Bandit upgrade, thanks to your other video, and it runs like it's in disabled or limp mode (6MPH). I have been recommended to purchase a new controller to resolve the probem. The Navitas has me interested but wondering if you know how it will perform without the special "dealer navitas app" you were using that lets you download the firmware for the specific bandit motor upgrade? If the Navitas app doesn't allow you set RPM or download new firmware, is it worth getting this controller? I don't really want the OTF controller - I'd love to just set it up for full performance and leave it. I wasn't expecting to purchase a new controller and trying to control expenses. Thanks in advance!
What are the pros and cons of this setup vs a full Navitas AC setup?
Hopefully a reply 2 months later will help but ac is just a whole lot more powerful. Here’s an example. The Ford Mustang ecoboost Inline 4 as the controller shown in the video vs the Shelby gt500 as the ac kit
Ive got a 96 ezgo. Sucks going uphill in my neighborhood. Would this help that?
Yes that or a torque chip witch is only 10$
If you ain’t in Myrtle Beach then where you’re at looks identical
Dumb question. I have a stock 2010 Club Car DS with a 48v Evolution Lithium kit but all other stock components. Can I just add a Navitas DC controller and ride just fine or will the stock motor die soon?
Should be just fine.
I just bought the 440 and im having all kind of issues with the app. I dont have the dealer app but would like it. I can't seem to get it to connect and work properly. The speedometer never works on it. I bought it thinking I could adjust settings with the app so so far I'm disappointed. Any advice?
Send navitas a message asking for the dealer app. Once you get it you will be able to adjust the settings.
The W's 😅🤣
Does this still work good with a stock motor and not the plum quick?
You should be fine.
My cart now bucks When you push the Forward pedal about halfway Any suggestions
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Do they make an a/c conversion kit for a 2002 yamaha g19 golf cart?
Should I buy the 440 or 600 to go with my plum quick mongoose
Both will reach the same speed, the 600 will get your there quicker.
I scrapped my batteries and installed 2 48 volt Eagle Lithium from Big Battery. My cart is 260lbs less and I cannot for the life of me go over 27mph. Is this due to the 440 Controller? I'm fine with the speed just was wondering If their was a parameter that i had set wrong. Thanks for the awesome videos
I couldn't tell which settings you had on your phone from the video that you uploaded. I will say to make sure the tires are inflated properly, No brakes are dragging when you push it, the front wheel bearing are greased properly and down that windshield. I know I hate the cold weather also.. The 440 controller will reach the same top speed as the 600 but will take it a little longer to get there. Get those batteries fully charged and try it again with the windshield down if you can bare it.
@@Fentertainment Thank you for the response! I did bend a spindle slightly, bent it back, installed new bearing but its not perfect. I built a G2 with a 23hp vegas motor and guess that im just disappointed that my DS isnt as quick. Oh well, fast enough I guess! Thanks again sir
Hello! I have a 2017 EZGO TXT 48 with stock solenoid and motor. If I were to install the 600 amp controller do I also need a new solenoid? Or can I use the stock/original solenoid. Thanks!
I used the stock solenoid in this video. Which ezgo system do you have? Series, DCS or PDS? Does it have the switch on the dash for forward and reverse?
@@Fentertainment I’m not very familiar with this stuff so my apologies. I looked up the serial numbers and it shows that the cart is a Fleet model. So I believe it’s a PDS. And no the forward/reverse switch is not located on the dash. It’s right in front of the seat on the body. Again I appreciate your help!
@@BTRPlumbing ok so on the ezgo carts if you had the switch on the dash it would have been a pds cart. So on the back side or the battery side of the lever, is there a big round disc looking thing or just a mechanical switch? If you have the big disc its a dcs if its a mechanical switch its a series. The dcs didn't last long but is sorta like a sepex system and the series is a standard cart. If you have a series cart and looking for speed upgrade the motor, the controller on a series cart will give you more torque.
@@Fentertainment I Just checked and I’m pretty sure it’s not a series cart because it has the run/tow switch and it has a speed sensor. So I believe that means it’s a Regen motor.
@@BTRPlumbing Big Disc behind the lever?
Can you use this controller with the stock 48v motor?
yes
I have a 2007 Yamaha with a 6” lift and 24” tires it goes 14 mph and when I go up a hill it goes to a crawl. If I do the controller and not the motor how fast do you think I’ll go
To be honest, I think you will be in the same boat. You might be a little faster however usually the dc setups tend to loose acceleration going up hill. Have you thought about doing a ac conversion?
@@Fentertainment I’m brand new to this I just got it 2 days ago. So I’m looking for all the help I can get. I’d like more speed out of it and not to go so slow up a hill. Any advise you have I will gladly take.
@@Fentertainment how can I email you?
I have a 1990 club car ds 36 volt that I convert it to a 48volt. Can I use this ? It doesn’t have a computer.
OK, got a 2014 CC Precedent. Limited budget,
You don't need a high amp fwd rvs switch for the precedent its a totally different system. The controller will have more functions. You will gain speed torque and security. The motor will give you just speed.
@@Fentertainment thanks. what about the solenoid and the cables? Finally, as I'm really just looking for speed, does the 600a have more speed than the 440a, or just more torque? Thanks again!
@@mikes1330 the 440 and 600 should reach the same top end, the 600 will get there quicker. When I had this set up I was running the stock solenoid. However an upgraded solenoid and wires would definitely be an upgrade.
@@Fentertainment MANY THANKS!
Great video and great editing! I have a 2008 CC Precedent. Same lift kit and wheels tire size 23". Stock motor with 400amp Alltrax with dash controller. I get 29mph consistently. It will break tires loose easily on sand dirt when taking off. So the extra money spent on Plum Quick motor and extra money to go from 400amp to 600amp controller seem to be wasted.
What model?
As a fellow Moncks Corner-Ian, have a few questions. Waiting on my Big Battery lithium, but I’ve updated to Navitas. Got about 1 mph out of it, but do you update the solenoid as well? Not sure I’m getting all the power to the motor. Rpm tops out around 38-3900rpm.
You gained 1 mph? Is your cart a series or sepex system?
@@Fentertainment 2015 TXT. Motor is a AU2500 FLT Speed
I have not changed the controller software. It’s on the 9.2 stock.
@@Dmkjr I think that is a series cart. Does it have the Forward Neutral Reverse Handle down by the seat or Switch on the dash. IF its a series cart a motor gives you speed and a controller gives you torque unlike the sepex style carts.
@@Fentertainment it has a forward and reverse toggle, not the old school movable lever.
Is the “on the fly “ controller a must? Or can I opt out on that part when upgrading the motor ?
it comes with it either way
You technically don’t need it. I’m not running it on my big cart, sometimes I wish I did but I’m only running it on this small cart.
Is there a way to contact you ???
Can you add this to a stock ClubCar precedent?
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I watched this entire thing and I dont even own or have interest in golf carts!
Right.
But now I kind of do...
Do you have to have the upgraded motor?
You dont, Might not be as fast but will still be quick.
@@Fentertainment plum fast motor worth it?
Are you able to use the Navitas controller with the PlumQuick Bandit upgrade?
I did in this video and up till I swapped it out for the ac upgrade. This controller and the plum quick now sit in the covid cart limo project and will be the heart of that one.
@@Fentertainment Thank You very much! Love your content... got a ton of inspiration from your channel. I think my next mod will be the wheel lights, can't wait
@@CityMedic Still one of my favorite mods myself!
Fentertainment do you know how fast the Navitas is without the PlumQuick Bandit?
@@CityMedic not sure
Do you have to have the OFC or can you do it all thru the app?
You can do it through the app, the ofc is basically what it says. I can adjust the settings while moving and the cart responds instantly.
Do you have to upgrade the motor
No, you can use the stock motor and you tell the controller that.
How old is it that you didn’t fry the solenoid? What solenoid do you have in that cart?
It was the stock solenoid from 2014. This video was shot in April 2020
Navitas says to upgrade the solenoid as well as all your cables to 2AWG
So, where's burn out mode?
Did you upgrade the solenoid if so which one
I didn't. I used the stock solenoid and wires when I did this. I used a aftermarket selonoid and wires when I converted it to ac.
@@Fentertainment Thanks!
what solenoid did you upgrade too and where did you purchase it
will the 440 amp give the 36v more power ?
I think you need 600 cuz of the volts
@@yasugi0153 ok thanks i am getting the 700 amp controller for my golf cart.i bought the bigbattery lithium pack 36v gator max its has 43.5 volts fully charged so the 36v cart should have plenty of power correct with this system?
i just cant figure out how the amp controller works how does it give more power whats in there to do this? got to have compasters or converter built in correct?
Will this work in a club car tempo too?
sure will. Tempo is just a precedent.
@@Fentertainment can't wait to upgrade mine with the CHINS battery and plum kit.
I am trying to get the app and no luck
If you have facebook, Join GCMod. Tell them you seen my video and ask for the dealer app. I'm also over there, Its where I like to hang out.
I am also trying to access this app. I’ve searched for GCMod but haven’t found a matching group. Could it be “golf carts modified”?
Would changing from a DC motor to AC motor be even better ?
I made a video on that as well. However to answer your question. Better? I guess that would be your opinion after the swap. The ac conversion is more efficient that dc, Higher top end speed and generally doesnt loose speeds up hills. However it is more on the price side. Its all up to you.
Fentertainment you get what you pay for. Superior Efficiency and power is worth the price.
Fentertainment I’m interested in lithium too. How much do they cost to power a 48V cart?
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Torque?
Is there a controller for a Yamaha golf cart?
Yes, I plan on doing an ac swap to one soon as well
@@Fentertainment I will be looking forward to that. Thank you.
@@donaldorlopp6798 which yamaha do you have?
@@Fentertainment yamaha drive g 29
The most reliable way to speed up your cart is gears and speed motor you can easily get it up to 30mph
It's not "region". It's ReGen, short for regenerative braking and it has no effect on top speed or acceleration. It only controls pedal-up dynamic braking.
It also puts energy back into the batteries
Thats how hybrid vehicles work.
BFD. My cart does 24+ mph, stock except for wheels, which is faster than this one on the recommended settings.
The instructions state to remove the charge resistor, but your video doesn't cover that.
Correct. A resistor or diode isn't needed. Sorry.
@@Fentertainment it looks like your solenoid has it removed already. Mine needs to be removed but found it interesting
@@SeanKirkpatrick1 I shot this video at 2am in the morning on a Saturday night due to the south carolina heat and humidity. Im bound to leave things out.
Wheels, tires, and a lift kit added 4 mph?!?!?
generally does. The size of the tire going from 18" to 23" gains speed but looses torque.