Is Evil Morty ACTUALLY Evil? The Citadel's Dark Implications
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Rick and Morty is a series with some of the most unique worldbuilding in all of Television. Sure, it isn’t the first or only show to explore the idea of a multiverse, in fact multiverses are more mainstream than ever. The MCU is diving into the multiverse headfirst, and Into the Spiderverse won an academy award for its multiversal feature film. But Rick and Morty explores the multiverse in a way that really only Rick and Morty can, and that’s through its titular characters, Rick and Morty. Particularly Rick and his place in the Multiverse at large as this all powerful science god. But we see it this way because of the specific Rick and WE follow in the series. The reality is that there are LOTS of Ricks and Mortys in the show, as showcased in multiple episodes, but most of them exist within a different set of social constructs as our Rick and Morty. And this is where the deeper and most interesting aspects of Rick and Morty’s multiverse exist. So today let's take a close look at Rick and Morty, the Citadel of Ricks and the dark, troubling implications that come with them.
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Y'all, I know the title is a bit suggestive, but I think you're reading too much into that clickable title. I'm NOT defending this Morty, I'm examining his motivations and using that to predict what we might see from the show RE: Evil Morty and the Citadel. I understand that he's actually still a bad dude lmao
Season five episode 1 explains the evil Morty concept!
i would say his good deeds in the citadel are merely a smaller part of a larger plan
@@blarkblark5794 how so??
@@cwcpants140 Morty is motivated by by love but his motivation makes Morty do extremely bad things just to get back to the girl
It’s fine I understand
The citadel is the most interesting part of the show to me.
to be honest you need to have a very high IQ to understand citadel amd its implications
Hi Zac
@@yellowsh4rk Yea you can tell its where the writers really flex but production as a whole is afraid that it would be too high-brow to do the story often because of people like you
@@topogigio7031 i was joking but ok
@@topogigio7031 bro it’s a community joke to meme about how you can’t appreciate the show if you aren’t intelligent. He’s clearly joking. Maybe it’s people like you who have a stick so far up their ass that ruin the fan base
You know, after seeing the S5 finale, you're not entirely wrong. He's not "evil" so much as he's just truly tired of Rick's bullshit.
Yeah but most of my specifics were very off lol
His motivations might not be evil, but his actions have been pretty immoral tbh.
He murdered thousands of children (the other mortys)
Not Evil? Bro.,... He fucking Blended hundreds if not thousands of people...
Does it matter? Ricks and mortys are infinite, disposable, many are clones and not even real.
I love the contradictions of the Citadel.
It's supposed to be this perfect society composed of multiple versions of the smartest man in the multiverse, but when everyone is the smartest in the multiverse....well....no one is.
It just becomes a mirror of normal society. In their own universes Ricks are gods, but in the Citadel that same "god" can become a low-class factory worker, a normal guy. No wonder our Rick hates the mere concept of the Citadel, it's anti-Rick.
"and when everyone's super, no one will be"
-syndrome
Tell us you're a Zoomer without saying you're a Zoomer.
My goodness, just wait until you morons catchup and realize what happened to Cobain.
@@topogigio7031 it’s only cringe if you make it cringe. let the man have an opinion about the show, it’s meant to be talked about
so in other words, welcome to any T20 college lol
@@SunSunSunn or rather any overachiever. it's impossible to be the best, or even better than most people.
the quicker you come to terms with that the better you'll be able to achieve your goals
The Ricklantis Mixup is one of the best episodes of television I have ever seen. It’s insane how much they are able to fit into 22 minutes.
Amen. I've seen it so many times but the ending always gives me goosebumps
I absolutely agree!
IT WAS 22 MINUTES?!
"Wait he won??"
*Morty gets blasted out*
*Depressing AaaAaAaa*
We were watching it with our kids last night and my 15 year old mentioned that it seemed longer (he was all about it, thinking we got a longer episode). I explained to him that it's the way the storylines are layered. The writing is some of the best I've ever seen for what ends up being a 30 minute broadcast.
“Evil” Morty is just genius Morty. The episodes where they introduce Genius Morty, Rick explains to Morty why Ricks keep Mortys around. Ricks genius brain waves are counter balanced by the “Morty” waves. It’s also the episode where we meet doofus Rick. If there’s a dumb Rick, there must be a Genius Morty.
Doofus rick is not dumb, but in his universe he does have a smart jerry which dominate even c137 rick.
@@apdroidgeek1737 Well, There is Tall Morty, but I suspect he got brain damage in a failed experiment.
@@apdroidgeek1737 doofus literally means “a stupid person.” And where the heck are you getting that doofus Rick has a smart Jerry?
@@orgywithpigs6 doofus rick has a portal gun, they just call him doofus is because theyre bullying him and he was kind compared to other ricks which are narcissistics, in the comics rick j19zeta7 which is doofus rick has a jerry that is very smart, he later on took over the whole multiverse and rick c137 and j19zeta7 have to team up to defeat him.
Also your theory is dum, everyone knows evil morty is a genius thats why he can create rick clones...
So I legitimately don't know why the Ricks in the citadel haven't automated everything. He made a robot to pass butter, he could make everything he needs through robots and spend his life doing whatever he wants
They’re too lazy to actually change anything socially and the hidden council could have inputted this system to control the Citadel.
They also have portal gun technology.
@@robertjohnson2916 that too, in the infinite multiverse of Rick and Morty you can find slaves and robots that can put to work on the Citadel, the Ricks don’t do anything about so they accomplish nothing long term.
@Robert Johnson no they don’t. Portal guns were for the most part illegal to make or use on the citadel. Remember meth head rick died trying to use bootleg portal fluid from the morty town locos
@@kevinmccabe3984 oh. But the Ricks & the Morty who were chasing Rick C-137 & his Morty had theirs.
Simple Ricks. The best ad in our and any other multiverse.
Taste the shattering of the Grand Illusion.
@@jounalehtio2317 Exactly!
Come home to simple Ricks
@@christopheraaron8299 disagree again. We all know that the ad for 2 brothers was the best
Damn, who coming after that S5 finale?
Evil Morty did also kill Ricks and Mortys that were trying to reveal his origin as well, so it's a bit of stretch to say he's only focused on improving the lives of the downtrodden
You’re not wrong
@SuperMarioFan 3001 But he didn't do that. The only way that anyone knew he was EM was that he gave the information to his former campaign manager (FCM). He only did that so that FCM would try to assassinate him, a vital part in his election campaign. The guards who kill FCM even say that it was close enough for a recount, so clearly the assassination put him over the line. Prior to this reveal nobody in the Citadel even suspected he was EM. If they had he would have been interrogated and possibly just murdered without trial. The Citadel legal system is specifically said to be completely unjust with "our" Morty and "our"* Summer being told they have no rights at trail and they don't even get an attorney. So even a suspicion of being EM gets him killed.
It's entirely possible that he has "good" intentions, by the standards of this show at least. But it's also possible he just wants to kill "our" Rick, or all Ricks, or control the multiverse. Perhaps he wants dozens of Jessicas as his sex slaves. Who knows?
* The second viewpoint Summer I mean.
then there was the there original secret base that was covered in thousands of tortured morties even though something like that was completely unnecessary
its also the same issue with Light from Death Note
@Nathan Taffijn that was not a real memory
Welp. This aged pretty well.
The true question is, are they ever going to expand this plotline again?
Oh I guarantee it
Yes, but probably not soon is my guess
In like 3 seasons when people stop theorizing every possibility
I would expect we get a follow up this season, so far every other season is the pattern
Not sure tbh. The way they had the train meta episode basically shit on theorists/fan to me really shut down that entire plot line. They probably wanted to do it but with every week people screaming “WhEre ISs EvIL MORtY?!” It seems like they threw away that possible plot line away.
Personally, I've headcanoned that "evil" morty was the morty from the intro who was left behind by rick. I think that Rick pulled a Samantha from Infinity train where they just kept running but when Rick looked back Morty wasn't with him. It was also even be hinted that this morty isn't Rick's first one, since in the first evil morty episode we see that Rick actually cries over a toddler Morty.
We're told over and over again that Rick abandoned Beth's family when she was a kid so why does he have this memory? So he did what any rick would do, he found a new world and a new morty- forgetting about the one he left for dead. (Also I think that the photo of Rick holding a baby morty was from his previous life, which is why he keeps it in Bird person's place away from anyone else)
What does “headcannon” mean?
@@angelsilva7207 It means that even though it isn’t confirmed, you truly believe it to be part of the story. So it’s a personalized canon to the Rick and Morty universe in this instance.
anything is possible in the rick universe. so anything might be right but can also be wrong
@@aisukyubu6470 no wrong, there is a universe where every person is a wrestler, WRESTLER RICK AND MORTYYYYYYY A HUNDRED YEARS!!!!!!
@@angelsilva7207 he means headcanon. He spelled it wrong. Cannon=heavy artillery weapon
Canon=accepted as part of the original, genuine story, brand, or intellectual property...
Drinking game: Take a shot everytime Johnny says “Rick.”
Or for those under 21, a drop of hot sauce for each time Johnny says "Rick".
Or for those underage, take a shot everything Johnny says "Rick".
You couldn't even safely play this game just reading the episode titles of the show lol
Death
We all would die
Plot twist: “Evil” Morty is the one true morty the one to unify them all
Oh no....
Oh yeah
@@bobafett6174 oh no....
Oh yeah
I'm more than just a hammer
I'm calling it now: Evil Morty is the Morty Rick leaves in the intro
No...actually you know what that could happen to be honest! I slightly agree
You might be onto something bc that scene in the intro is the only one that never changes in any of the intros for every season. Interesting when u think about it
it's his original morty. He's the one on the picture in birdpersons house. rick actually comes from a dimension where he didn't leave beth
Great take
@@GreenSabre187 what abt the original rick of the original dimensions (1st season) rick
Evil Morty is like the perfect example of a charismatic psychopath and it's been interesting to see how some people have been taken in by him.
You brought up a good point about how the citadel is a trap for both Ricks and Morties, oppressing and putting many of them down. Evil Morty saw this and used it to get in a position of power, and instead of genuinely trying to helping everyone or to improve things, he used them right up until he didn't need them and them proceeded to grind them down (literally in many cases) to fuel his end goal.
But because he was articulate and phrased his points in a way that makes it difficult of argue with, you have some people thinking he is right or was somehow justified.
Brother is so good at manipulation he manipulated real people
Damn you were kind of right. Evil Morty didn't want to be evil. He just wanted to escape.
He's the most morally questionable character on the show. I personally think he's a good thing for the citadel, but he did do that mass pain shield of mortyies which is arguably worse than killing. I hope they make him a good leader that makes the citadel more equal
Not really. Especially now that he's accomplished his plan we see he's just as ruthless and selfish as any Rick. He wants to be free at the cost of countless lives.
@Thomas Shelby Ricks use morties to camouflage their brainwaves. Which is just a passive benefit of having one close to their physical proximity.
@@urahara64360 Did he have any other choice? Would the Ricks tolerate a Morty that dares to self-determine his own life? No. They would've scooped him up and put him with the next Rick that needed a meat shield. They would've killed him off or brain wiped him if they learned what he was. Evil Morty had to play the long con and in the end he opened the path to the true multiverse. What he did was monstrous, but I can't even blame him in the end.
I kinda pick up on what you're saying, and it makes sense in a lot of ways. But one of my favorite comments in regards to Evil Morty running the Citadel that I've seen on CZcams paints the entire picture of my distrust in him that makes me respectfully disagree with this take.
"His speech mentions the supposed problem, but never proposes an actual solution."
You mean just like other tyrants? Yeah, no. I do not trust that kid at all.
I always called him Eyepatch Morty.
We could also call him Mortiaveli. The ends justify the means, after all. Haha
Mortiarty
@@Noahloveless1 "The ends justify the means" is evil. It is the most common brand of evil. Almost everything 'evil' does bad things for exactly this reason. They feel the ends justify the means.
@@Bubu567 That feels more indicative of a chaotic neutral character, honestly. It has a goal and will strike down anything that steps in its way. Those who align themselves as allies tend to be useful, so they don't get killed.
I got a low IQ and still love Rock and Morty 😔👊
Everyone is like that
Lucky! I’m high IQ and I can’t wrap my brain about it.
Why is he a pickle?
Hehe pretty colors
No bro you can’t watch it, if your IQ is less than 145 then you won’t understand the show at all
@@ashdalbey4700 to be fair it takes a higher IQ to understand lol
Don’t forget the Morty torture shield, which I believe he had his mind controlled Rick construct
Honestly I find "Evil" Morty's intentions or why he has them less interesting than the question of how he became the way he is. Outsmarting and overpowering even a single Rick is no small feat, let alone multiples and groups of them. What's this Morty's backstory?
I've seen the newest Episode and i wanna say:
'Evil' is a funny word to use for Evil Morty.
I mean, anyone here who remembers the End-Boss of
the Show 'Supernatural'? If i remember correctly,
this Morty-Breeding-Machine and the End-Bosses Obsession
with a certain 2 Brothers is very, very, very similar.
Entertainment-Obsession or Grandson-Obsession: Seems pretty
similar to Me.
@@slevinchannel7589 "Evil" is definitely on point. All that slaughter at his hands just so that he could achieve his own ambitions because he's sick and tired of Rick makes that much pretty clear. This riding on the back of an episode where Rick learns about empathy is fairly ironic.
@@Crow_Rising Nah.
Rick always had Empathy,
he just didnt showed it, but all throughout the show, it was fact.
Fans just now act as if he just learned it, but whatever,
thats not even my point, so whatever.
About Morty though: That its ‚just’ his own Ambition is just your assumption though and only an assumption.
He did end an absolute Horror-beyond-Horror: The breeding-program of the Rick-Citadel.
That makes him a Hero on a massive Scale.
Just like the Winchester-Brothers, who have defeated the same kind of System and are heroes: They ended an artifical ‚Infinite Loop of Pain’.
Evil Morty could have checked for ‚good’ Mortys and Ricks; sure,
but him ending the Breeding-Program is Heroic beyond what most Anime, Manga and Movies ever happen to show.
@@slevinchannel7589 That's like saying the genocide of WWII was heroic because of the intention behind it. Atrocities to end atrocities, the end justifies the means, it's always just more evil in the end.
Rick points out at one point that he's not personally involved or responsible for everything every alternate version of him does, something Evil Morty simply waves off with "That's what they all say". He never provides any reason for why it wouldn't be true, though. Should you be executed for something some parallel version of you did, even if you had been opposed to it?
At another point, it's shown that the ricks and morties who die within the citadel while this is all going down are revived just to be churned up again in an endless cycle just to power the device Evil Morty is using to achieve his ambitions. Is this somehow heroic?
Evil Morty doesn't care about the corrupt system, or any of the Morty's, or whether any particular Rick is innocent or not, or anything. He makes this much clear through both his words and his actions. He will throw around some lame excuses occasionally just for the bare minimum, but ultimately he only cares about himself, and his own ability to escape it all. To that end, he's willing to justify the mass slaughter of alternate versions of himself and his grandfather. That isn't heroic.
@@Crow_Rising no its not the two situations are not similar at all a horrible analogy. The third Reich was ethnic cleansing to rid their society of what they thought to be the problem race yet simple logic and science can explain why what they did isn't a valid solution.
The citadel represents and perpetuates infinite slavery something that can't be compared to anything that's happend historically in reality. The (obvious) difference is that rick essentially created this system and the central finite curve without destruction of both the practice would inevitably happen again forever disregarding the infinite slavery he basically carved out a subset of existence to serve his own ego and control fantasies not allowing anyone or anything to be stronger than him so he essentially has free reign over everything in the central finite curve this is incredibly corrupt and evil 100% worse than ww2 Germany. Rick says he isn't responsible for all of the things bad Rick's do yet he created a system that endlessly enables and creates bad Rick's he himself is a bad rick if not the worst he even acknowledges this himself later in the episode the clear problem with this logic is 1 that it's a slippery slope because at the end of the day you could shuck responsibility endlessly ie the "bad ricks" can easily come up with the same excuse "well it's not my fault I did such and such so and so created the conditions that led me to behave this way" and 2 at a certain point regardless of how far along you are down the line of deplorable behavior direct causation isn't always the most important thing for instance if I created something I thought would be okay but it spiraled into something terrible and it only gets worse and worse but I have no direct control over it at a certain point could you really directly blame me in the colloquial sense? no not usually however it did stem from my actions let's say you could end all of this terrible stuff by destroying everything that led up to it I never intended for something bad to happen I didn't will it and I can't control it but killing me puts an end to unspeakable harm is it wrong to kill me? any sensible person would say no killing me is a good action.
destroying the central finite curve ending infinite slavery with mortys and everybody and everything else in the central finite curve is undeniably a good regardless of who he had to kill. to say otherwise is childish or ignorant. from most philosophical standpoints ending infinite slavery and limitless power over all existence in the central finite curve that was purposely created to serve one individual and his thirst for power and totalitarian control is worth the genocide of the citadel.
I think a lot of people have the same problem in their logic that you do just because something can be bad doesn't mean it is always bad under every circumstance. If torturing a baby to death prevents endless suffering I'd argue its good to torture and murder the baby. Being a good person and doing good things os there a definitive line to draw between the 2? Let's say I wanted to find a new form a pleasure but found the cure for cancer and saved millions does that make me a good person or a neutral person? If in the baby scenario I posed earlier I didn't care about saving anybody or anything I just wanted to torture a baby to death but didn't until it was a good action am I a good person for it? some might say no some might say yes but either way it's a good action.
with evil morty if you look at the circumstances I come the the conclusion that under these circumstances where he is preforming a great good and that he and his multivariate counterparts are subjected to infinite slavery and oppression its hard to say he is a bad person for his actions. At worst you could say he could've done better but at the end of the day he did what he had to do to put an end to an extremely horrible reality.
Rememebr the episode when he controlled a rick and had innocent morties hanging from walls being tortured to not be found out? I don't think he's such a good guy
I didn't claim he was a good guy, lol, I said he seemingly has positive intentions, and that in the context of Rick and Morty literally NOBODY is innocent. Our Rick and Morty have both murdered so many people over the course of the series!
At what cost would it be worth to kill the most evil person in the multiverse?
He did that so he could continue his important work
These videos have so much effort and love put into them! :)
I agree!
Evil morty ain't got nothing on the greatest all time super-villain...the diabolical super genius: LOUISE BELCHER!
This hasn’t aged well; still a good video though
You guys can’t lie tho evil morty had the hardest scenes in the whole show. Became my favorite character from so little screen time
You'd figure that the council of ricks could have created robots to do all the menial labour instead of getting other Ricks to do this
Bro... You have ANY idea... How lazy ricks are...
Yeah but if your only competition in the entire universe is other Ricks you will definitely want to do all you can to keep them busy
didn't expect him to make a rick and morty video for some reason
interesting, but your forgetting something that I would classify as evil. Evil Morty tortured hundreds of other Morty's to use as camo. That's straight up evil. He may have been cleaning up the citadel, but a person capable of that is cleaning it up for a reason... and its not equality of other Mortys or Ricks
I thought the fandom called him “Mortiarty”
ok to be fair I don’t venture too deep into the fandom lol, but I like that title
I've only ever heard "Evil Morty," but I do like that.
Never heard of that one. Its clever but only if you've read a Sherlock book.
@@scaredyhart268 or watched the series/movie and tbh who hasn't
This is a much better name!
funny how things turn out to be right sometimes huh?
"Maybe he has further sinister motives behind his Citadel takeover, but so far what we've seen from him is *rooting out corruption and supporting the downtrodden of the Citadel, by any means necessary."*
That's how and why the French and Russian Revolutions started, at least in theory. As the old saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror-that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
and the Cuban revolution as well. They all start out with seemingly honest motives but end up as corrupt as (or even more than) the establishment they overturned
@@Mourtzouphlos240 "The one lasted mere months, the other a thousand years."
And here's where Twain misses the point.
The French Revolutionaries during the great terror didn't not kill more people because their revolution was a marginally better alternative to their predecessors.
They killed less people because they killed so many people right at the start, made war on all their neighbors, made it a goal to wipe out all previous cultural institutions, (Damn the cultural preferences of those they governed) and were generally Malevolent and incompetent.
The French terror could never have lasted a thousand years. No sane society would've put up with it for more than a few months. It was THAT evil and stupid.
It's kind of the typical comment you get from people who aren't really familiarized with the history of either Cuba or the USSR, but time and time again yall imagine this nightmare hellscape that didn't actually exist, nor continues to do so.
@@Rafael_Mena_Ill *USSR
Lol :)
Been missing your uploads. Glad you got to take a break though and focus on your podcast.
I was actually out of town and started a new job so that's been taking up a lot of my time, but lots more uploads coming asap
@@Johnny2Cellos That's awesome man. Hope the new job is going well. I always look forward to your uploads so keep em coming lol.
@@Johnny2Cellos a few more subscribers and you wont have to work that job ;)
I actually took the job because the job itself sounded fun, not because I needed it ;)
Who else is here after the season 5 finale?
How can the Council of Ricks find a way to talk to another dimension's Rick before he creates a portal gun? The portal guns don't travel in time.
Not all Ricks invent the Portal Gun at the same time. They definitely monitor as many Ricks as they can to swoop in before they have their crack at a viable Portal Gun.
Dimensional travel
Actually, the ricks are fully capable of timetravel, our rick is against it for some unknown reason (he has used it in the show before)
@@StagTwo I never said they couldn't use time travel.
@@PlanetZoidstar Bro, I was replying to robert, I didn't even @ you -_-
One of my favorite characters from the show.
For a society made up of crazy geniuses you'd think they would come up with a way to fully automate all the grunt work already
Definitely an interesting video even in retrospect
"A vastly improved life for ricks and mortys on the citadel"...this didnt age well. Lol
did you forget hes called evil morty because of the first episode hes in where he kills a bunch of Rick's and enslaves their mortys? yeah, something tells me his motives arent exactly "pure"
I specifically showed clips of and talked about all of those things lol
@@Johnny2Cellos but I feel like it should be talked about more? I completley agree with what you're saying in the video, and what he's done for thi citadel really hasn't seemed all that evil, but in the past he's shown a history of a lack of remorse for the morty's that he was torturing just to stay hidden. This makes me think that his motives are more selfish than what's on the surface. Or maybe there's more to the original story and why he was brutalizing those mortys
"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror"
@@BuddyismyBaby It doesn't have to a self serving evil to be a "ends justify the means"
@@Johnny2Cellos you did but it seemed like an afterthought.
I don't think it's evil to escape an infinite cycle of manipulation, abuse and control.
it wouldn't be, if he didn't kill all those people along the way. that was unnecessary. how can you understand how much mortys get abused and manipulated, but then simulatenously murder more mortys
I loved your interpretation of the rick-recruiting process, that they get to him just before he's about to make the giant leap in knowledge and experience of the multiverse! Super interesting food for thought
its funny how season 5 showed that not only rick is the one to invent multi dimension travel and in each universe it was somebody else , in one it could be jerry xD
"Evil Morty" is actually the only GOOD person in the whole Rick & Morty universe.
I wouldn't go that far haha
My vote goes to Jerry.
@John Barber Sure! LoveFiinderz
Just the concept of a dystopian hell where the only residents are clones of the exact same 2 people is extremely interesting to me, and seeing evil Morty interact with that is so fascinating
Woww, i literally never tought of it that way but now with your video it makes a lot of sence. Continu like that love what youre doing
My theory is that C-137 was part of the group of Ricks that founded the Citadel, but he was the one that thought it was an awful idea and refused to be a part of it.
So C-137 and the council members might be the only Ricks that realized their true potential by themselves, while many Ricks after that were tricked by other Ricks into joining their Citadel just before they realized they could be the masters of their own multiverse.
Well, that explains a lot. This is my personal canon right now, makes sense so why not?
Great theory.
I have a theroy that Evil Morty is not Evil Morty, it's Evil Rick that has put his mind in Morty's head so nobody knows.
That would not only take away from the chatacter, it would totally replace him. Sounds like a plot twist for the sake of a plot twist. The appeal of Evil Morty is based on the fact that it is Morty and not Rick.
i always enjoy your videos a lot. :)
First coherent and interesting R&M commentary I've seen!
*blends entire citadel*
I think he wants to help these Rick's and morty's for some kind of end goal of reversing the whole Rick domance over morty or something like that
This episode has created so many theories. This may be the best episode they made. I’m also glad they have waited to give answers about it.
When I first saw this in my recommended I thought it was from the Therorist Channel guy, and was instantly turned off from clicking. Then I look at it today, and realize it's Johnny 2 Cellos, and insta-click. Glad I re-looked at the Title and Thumbnail now. Love your videos man.
That's why I've always called him "eyepatch Morty" ;P
"Evil" Morty never really was Evil Morty to me. I've always saw him as the Rickest Morty.
My 1st time watching you. Really enjoyed this. Thanks. Subscribed.
Actually heard the podcasts first cause I’m a fan of Tyriq then became a fan of you as well. Keep up the uploads you gained a follower
Turns out you’re correct
I don't think this age very well man lol
He killed everyone on the citadel for his own selfish desires.
got this ready to watch after I get some work done.
Just finished season 3 of final space hope you do more content on it
This video did not age very well lol
Was about to say that
Who is here after the season 5 episode 10
Good call Johnny!
Love your channel
Man this did not age well after the end of Season 5 lol.
Not to say it is bad. I thought you had cracked it when I watched this video a year ago. Also can you believe how much Rick and Morty we are getting. Can't believe it is already Season 6 and this came out a year ago before Season 5.
well this theory goes down the drain retrospectively haha
After Outnumbered song the Citadel plot is the most interesting for me!
This is a great perspective.
watching in bed. love your voice
Well this video aged well… Seems pretty evil to me.
I've been wondering this for a while
great video!
Evil Morty is actually the Bernie Sanders Morty from the universe that has all the ideals of Bernie Sanders
This did not age well. :)
I keep hearing this doorbell sound in the background of this video, with good headphones its impossible to not be distracted by it.
So now we've seen Evil Morty's plan play out, how do you feel about him now?
Woah - the framing of this video really shifted my perspective. Evil Morty, as you've broken him down right now, sounds way more fascist than Fascist Morty could have dreamed of being. He's the Castro of the R&M universe. You really make him sound like the populist figurehead duping his public into believing he's on their side while furthering his own goals.
I don't think he's driven at all by pure motives. He wants power and will manipulate or exploit any situation so he can get it. I think he's the Morty Rick mentions when he says that thing about a cocky Morty being bad for everyone. He might have been c137's original but that would require some kind of time travel?
Great video even though I landed on the opposite end of things from you. Looking forward to more content.
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This is probably one of my favorite Rick and Morty episodes
I just absolutely love your videos
Thank you 😊
@@Johnny2Cellos thank you for being very cool guy
Evil morty was not evil, he just wanna escape rick universe
if rick is so smart than why did so many of him do their own capitalism
Will you ever cover solar opposites season 2? I been waiting to hear if anyone thought it was as strong as I did.
I hope they play it well. A lot of times I wonder if they just get in over their heads like so many other shows.
One of the weird almost paradox things that this video just narrowly collided into was the fact that there ARE Ricks who didn't join the multiverse, but are so close to the main Rick that he was able to just 'move in' and replace them. So there's probably quite a few Ricks out there who are only minutely different than the main one that realistically should be visiting the Citadel and causing havok randomly, and that doesn't get shown.
Too bad they decided to go with the route of "Evil Morty destroys all of the Ricks and their system before Yeeting himself off the multiverse" route
He didn't leave the multiverse, he left the central finite curve. Now he's in the full multiverse.
And why is it supposed to be bad tho? With that part of the story out of the way, the path is open to every possible direction the story can actually take. We are free to enjoy infinite possibilities of stories that might come. I tell ya, ----don't think about it.
He never was good . Since his first appearence, tortures a lot of Mortys just to hide.
To answer your question, Morality is a matter of place and time. Slavery is considered wrong now, but a few centuries ago, it was perfectly okay. You have to learn to think for yourself and not let society decide right and wrong for you. There is a lot of wrongs today that are considered normal that shouldn't be.
I am talking about Anarchy forever break your chains where there is Authority; there can be no freedom.
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 I don't know if this a joke or not? You might be experiencing Fake Consciousness, my comrade. The belief through hard work, you can rise above your station. The chances of the working class rising up to become a millionaire or billionaire are slim. You will have more success gambling at a Casino. Your odds are better that way.
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Got it.
I love this take!!
Yaaayyyyy, great timing. Also when are you and Tariq gonna do season 2 of archer?!
We're recording this week, releasing next Monday!
Its great when we use shows to find throughts about the way we think and live ( even if its unintended from the show makers) .
the first CZcamsr to get it!! dude you're a god tier mind !!
It's interesting to compare this with the way things are playing out in Solar Opposites.
Rick and Morty : find there own dead selves and take the place while being scarred for life
Futurama: does the same thing and doesn’t give a shit
I totally agree with this theory. I think he wants to move society forward establishing a new order and I’m really looking forward to what his up to! The scene of the Morty friends collecting seeds also got my attention while watching this episode.
Great video, thanks for sharing! 🤗
I love how rick could literally make someone completely disappear but he still makes Morty bury their bodies.
Are you gonna do breakdowns or your opinions of the new episodes
I haven't decided yet! I'd like to talk about them, but it's honestly just a matter of logistics, I have a lot going on right now.
You should definitely check out WhitneyVision they're going to do breakdowns every week, basically continuing what they did at NerdWire
It's funny because your Citadel of Ricks theory is exactly how Rick recruited pilots in the newest episode.