A Wall Of Silence: The Case Of Charlene Downes

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Komentáře • 957

  • @diannegoodwin6561
    @diannegoodwin6561 Před 9 měsíci +896

    So sad. Yes Charlene was let down by social services and the police, but first and foremost she was badly let down by her revolting parents.

    • @dawnwilson1529
      @dawnwilson1529 Před 9 měsíci

      I agree, definitely suspicious...very sketchy people...further proof some people are not capable of being parents...also sounds like some of the police might be involved in the sex abuse...

    • @lourdesmarie66
      @lourdesmarie66 Před 9 měsíci +36

      I believe the parents should be charge with child endagerment and put in jail.

    • @katwhitehead9382
      @katwhitehead9382 Před 9 měsíci

      Am Atp

    • @robinnadhasky109
      @robinnadhasky109 Před 9 měsíci +21

      @@lourdesmarie66 I agree with you 💯%. She should have been put straight away to jail!!! She wasn’t a good mother 👩🏻 to Charlene at all!!! Nor was the father good to his daughter either. They knew what was happening with her because they let it happen by allowing other men come into their house 🏡 to sexually abuse her and probably for money 💰 too. They were poor people and just used their daughter to receive money. 33:46

    • @sarahxoxo5534
      @sarahxoxo5534 Před 9 měsíci +13

      And the fact they left their son’s body for that long before calling police shows ( also by the phone call she made when her daughter was missing. And then replying i have to go out soon) was almost like she seen her children as worthless and couldn’t be bothered with dealing with police both occasions ) she failed them to such an extreme level its so so sad i hope they find her. Reminds me of poor keith bennet. 😢such a sad world.

  • @truecrimebuff5631
    @truecrimebuff5631 Před 9 měsíci +1075

    I hope I’m wrong but reading between the lines it seems her parents were pimping her out from a very young age to sex offenders for money. And someone from social services seeing with their own eyes her in bed with an older man 😮 where was the phone call to the police to remove her immediately. Charlene was failed on some many levels by so many people who were meant to protect her. This case is so unbelievable and sad.

    • @nancyrivera8050
      @nancyrivera8050 Před 9 měsíci +43

      That’s exactly my thought

    • @shiftyy2786
      @shiftyy2786 Před 9 měsíci +45

      I agree with you completely. The poor, poor child

    • @EmilyHartley25989
      @EmilyHartley25989 Před 9 měsíci +42

      It was an environmental health officer who was there to look at a door. This person gave a statement to social services. I suppose they assumed social services would actually do something about it.

    • @alis4650gls
      @alis4650gls Před 9 měsíci +11

      I wouldn’t doubt if social services were in on it 😢

    • @CollieneDawson-hw7bj
      @CollieneDawson-hw7bj Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@alis4650glsABSOLUTELY. Even in Australia 🇦🇺. Know that for a fact. 😢

  • @GigiRulesTheRoost
    @GigiRulesTheRoost Před 9 měsíci +557

    Oh my Lord how was it that these children were not permanently taken out of this home? This is beyond unbelievable.

    • @lumpchunker5516
      @lumpchunker5516 Před 9 měsíci +39

      Seriously! What could it possibly take to remove kids from an a*usive home if even this wasn't enough?

    • @maxinezanfardino7620
      @maxinezanfardino7620 Před 9 měsíci +18

      Agreed. Absolutely appalling.

    • @JK-xt7ro
      @JK-xt7ro Před 9 měsíci

      Freemasonry

    • @KANSASCLITY
      @KANSASCLITY Před 9 měsíci

      Police were too busy harassing stoners for having a gram of weed.

    • @goblin-night
      @goblin-night Před 9 měsíci

      Time and again in crime docs you'll see the child protective services prove as useful as asshairs.
      In Canada the problem is that non-caucasion children need it most, so of course the Woke crowd insists that failure to lay off the non-caucasion abusers is racism because otherwise the stats will be uneven and stuff.
      It is easy to guess that it is the same in your country too.

  • @ccsorn
    @ccsorn Před 9 měsíci +425

    Those parents should have been charged with pimping out those girls. Disgusting that they got away with it.

    • @jennifermaddy2442
      @jennifermaddy2442 Před 8 měsíci

      Exactly & what about all these Kebab shops that the girls where seen coming out of them with drugs, alcohol etc.They obviously where using these girls for sex & grooming

  • @Aly.knuckles
    @Aly.knuckles Před 9 měsíci +203

    I love that the 999 operator called her out immediately on her lackadaisical attitude toward her young daughter missing.

    • @drips1030
      @drips1030 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Lackadaisical???!!! What a word lol. Never in my life have i heard that!!! Thanks!!!😂

    • @drips1030
      @drips1030 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Pronounced as written i presume??? Sorry 😂

    • @belle194
      @belle194 Před 7 měsíci +12

      ​@@drips1030yes. Pretty common word in England, not sure about anywhere else.

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox Před 2 měsíci +4

      Have not heard 'lackadaisical ' in years. Thank you for returning that lovely word to me! 😊

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@drips1030Daisys are crucial here in England; when a daisy is lacking, we are discombobulated 😂😊

  • @nickicallan
    @nickicallan Před 9 měsíci +460

    I’m not even 10 minutes in and I think it’s pretty safe to assume that these vile POS “parents” are pimping out their daughter(s). How this idea slipped passed social services and law enforcement is beyond me. Shameful.

    • @CollieneDawson-hw7bj
      @CollieneDawson-hw7bj Před 8 měsíci +9

      Sadly. Because most are in the ring of pediophiles. If it's happening in Australia. It's happening everywhere in the world 😢

    • @jennifermaddy2442
      @jennifermaddy2442 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I agree

    • @nickicallan
      @nickicallan Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@CollieneDawson-hw7bj oh it’s definitely happening everywhere on the planet sadly. And I agree I think some
      Ppl in law enforcement, the government, and the elite are involved with this despicable crime. I can only pray that they pay dearly for what they are doing, not only in this life but the next as well.

    • @phillipproussier3723
      @phillipproussier3723 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Prime suspect: *BBC* . Remember Jimmy Saville? 😉

    • @astroterf.
      @astroterf. Před 8 měsíci +4

      Social services don't give a sh!t, they are too busy harassing innocent loving parents unfortunately 😢

  • @constantinc9034
    @constantinc9034 Před 9 měsíci +582

    The audacity of her parents to sue the police force then write a book about their daughter to try to capitalize on her story is nuts. She was let down by her parents, she had such a tough life her entire existence because of them. Letting up to 16 grown men stay overnight, some staying in her bedroom. Those parents deserve to be in jail, screw them. Scum 'parents'.

    • @snippyJ
      @snippyJ Před 9 měsíci +51

      I think they sued the police for not finding her so that they could continue to pimp her out. They lost one of their sources of income. These people are vile.

    • @paulthrutner9114
      @paulthrutner9114 Před 9 měsíci

      The kebab meat theory is absolute bollocks…the main suspect is a guy called “Nigel Lloyd”…he was a chef in Blackpool and had a history of child abuse and was even on a Gordon Ramseys kitchen nightmares episode which has been taken off all platforms due to him.. he was part of a child abusers ring.

    • @MemphisBrown-wy9es
      @MemphisBrown-wy9es Před 9 měsíci

      these are not proper humans, less than animals, lying predatory sick in the head the pair of them, akin to fred n rose yukk🤮🤮 Rest at peace now Charlene❤❤

    • @BlueMoiraine
      @BlueMoiraine Před 9 měsíci +23

      I thought the same thing. How dare they? Charlene's tragic short life started off that way because of them. They are horrible people, and I understand why they got harassed. Shame.

    • @christine8459
      @christine8459 Před 9 měsíci +21

      I really can't understand why their "parents" are still out free instead of rotting in jail where they truly belong.

  • @KathyAnne28
    @KathyAnne28 Před 9 měsíci +338

    Hearing her biological mother actually get sharp because they told her she needed to wait and not go to work so they could try to find her daughter is absolutely disgusting

    • @helenscott-tebb406
      @helenscott-tebb406 Před 9 měsíci +29

      She shouldn't be allowed to use the word Mother.

    • @aleisaetheridge8682
      @aleisaetheridge8682 Před 9 měsíci +3

      ​@@helenscott-tebb406exactly .

    • @myu5519
      @myu5519 Před 6 měsíci +1

      That seemed really off. It is obvious that the so-called "parents" knew of Charlene's abuse. I came across a Reddit post which has a link to Pinterest court documents (iirc) which stated some of the horrifying things going on in the Downes' household.
      The poor girl was failed by her parents as-well as local authorities in her short life.

  • @sarahv1316
    @sarahv1316 Před 9 měsíci +1034

    The fact that her mother had to be forced by the police to stay at home when her daughter is missing is disgusting. The adults in her life failed her at every turn.

    • @sarahv1316
      @sarahv1316 Před 9 měsíci +90

      @harrietcraig6716 I think you’ve misunderstood my comment, it was aimed at the mother and not the police for wanting to keep her prior commitments when her daughter is missing and for waiting so long to report her.

    • @lindadeavours3327
      @lindadeavours3327 Před 9 měsíci

      @harrietcraig6716 p

    • @sarahv1316
      @sarahv1316 Před 9 měsíci +30

      @harrietcraig6716 no worries at all!! i can see how it could have been misconstrued. I just wish there was even one adult in her life that really saw her as she was- a child that needed protection. it’s just heartbreaking.

    • @constantinc9034
      @constantinc9034 Před 9 měsíci

      TBH it is a very easily understandable comment to interpret, I wouldn't worry lol. @@sarahv1316

    • @KANSASCLITY
      @KANSASCLITY Před 9 měsíci

      ​@harrietcraig6716are you illiterate?

  • @pantiesbtch458
    @pantiesbtch458 Před 9 měsíci +851

    I’m convinced the parents were exploiting her to men for money. What other reason would she have been failed so miserably by them?

    • @Fullsendlayup
      @Fullsendlayup Před 9 měsíci +56

      That’s what I was thinking too :(
      Disgusting. I wish real bad things for these sick evil people.

    • @Tsumami__
      @Tsumami__ Před 9 měsíci +1

      100% if not just for money also for their own sexual gratification as well. They’re both sickening

    • @techwithbec
      @techwithbec Před 9 měsíci +77

      I agree. That's the vibe I get too. They aren't parents they're traffickers and abusers.

    • @AlbionRising
      @AlbionRising Před 9 měsíci +63

      Of course!! In England I've heard so many cases like this, and the Muslims gangs have a big business with this too, and are quite protected.

    • @lizzayy-cg2ec
      @lizzayy-cg2ec Před 9 měsíci +10

      Of course they were! Idk how things work in England, but with all the health visits at the "clinic" several times and the employees did not call CPS at the first visit...let alone several? That's ao strange.

  • @ashleyhoffman4117
    @ashleyhoffman4117 Před 9 měsíci +155

    is it not strange that charlenes "parents" knew so many sexual predators???? how is this possible........unless.....

    • @CollieneDawson-hw7bj
      @CollieneDawson-hw7bj Před 8 měsíci

      My thoughts exactly. The parent's are pediophiles and where also pimping their daughter to other pediophiles 😢

    • @astroterf.
      @astroterf. Před 8 měsíci +15

      Birds of a feather flock together, my Dad always said 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @BuddhaofBlackpool
      @BuddhaofBlackpool Před 4 měsíci +3

      Scrotes always know other scum.

    • @gamerforlife123100
      @gamerforlife123100 Před měsícem

      It takes one to know one

  • @charliez4837
    @charliez4837 Před 9 měsíci +164

    It makes you wonder if the father was sexually abusing the children. If they were friends with these predators over so many years then it makes you question him too. Charlene and her siblings were failed.

    • @paulthrutner9114
      @paulthrutner9114 Před 9 měsíci

      The kebab meat theory is absolute bollocks…the main suspect is a guy called “Nigel Lloyd”…he was a chef in Blackpool and had a history of child abuse and was even on a Gordon Ramseys kitchen nightmares episode which has been taken off all platforms due to him.. he was part of a child abusers ring.

    • @anitagoodman9002
      @anitagoodman9002 Před 9 měsíci

      Personally I think that he used his children to fund his alcohol habit still a most disgusting vile p.o.s excuse for a human.... even animals behave a lot better

    • @jules52
      @jules52 Před 9 měsíci

      There's no evidence that Bob was or is a paedophile, but it is suspected

    • @EmilyHartley25989
      @EmilyHartley25989 Před 8 měsíci

      Two of Charlene's friends reported to police that RD had raped Charlene.

    • @phillipproussier3723
      @phillipproussier3723 Před 8 měsíci

      Prime suspect: *BBC* . Remember Jimmy Saville? 😉

  • @lindamclarty3774
    @lindamclarty3774 Před 9 měsíci +177

    This case is outrageous and disgusting. Her parents should be thrown in prison! And the police listening in on a rape and doing nothing is unbelievable!! There are no words!!

  • @Presca1
    @Presca1 Před 9 měsíci +272

    The main perpetrator isn't the killer - it's her parents - for letting predators in the home to begin with and corrupting her life and childhood. It's sad, it's the community wanting justice for her that are her true family. Also, can I just say how horrid her parents also are for letting their son suffer for 3 hrs and never calling for help??!

    • @Bella.Parabellum
      @Bella.Parabellum Před 9 měsíci +27

      The killer literally ended her life, so we cannot say he isn't the main perpetrator... But the "parents" are on the same level

    • @terredee
      @terredee Před 9 měsíci +8

      Parents like these … I wonder how they were brought up. Was it with such carelessness and cruelty as they showed their own children?

    • @jules52
      @jules52 Před 9 měsíci +1

      He or she

    • @phillipproussier3723
      @phillipproussier3723 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Prime suspect: *BBC* . Remember Jimmy Saville? 😉

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy Před 3 měsíci

      💯

  • @cathybassett6432
    @cathybassett6432 Před 9 měsíci +114

    So the government/cops didn't give a rats ass when Charlene was a child, growing up with paedophiles and criminals. But they care (kind of) when she's dead. Same with the "devastated" family. Criminals. enablers, liars and such. NO ONE gave a sh*t when she was living. Makes me ill -

    • @alisonreeder1587
      @alisonreeder1587 Před 9 měsíci +5

      It's just criminal the way it was handled makes me sick. What an absolute sham. The parents are disgusting

    • @CollieneDawson-hw7bj
      @CollieneDawson-hw7bj Před 8 měsíci +2

      Funny how many are from other countries 🤔

    • @phillipproussier3723
      @phillipproussier3723 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Prime suspect: *BBC* . Remember Jimmy Saville? 😉

    • @BOFAMET
      @BOFAMET Před 8 měsíci

      And then the BNP has the nerve to try and be coy about this being a "foreigner issue"! The sickness in this case was 100% home grown, pure English debauchery. This girl's parents were absolute animals.

  • @hithere6701
    @hithere6701 Před 9 měsíci +54

    Some people really get no chance in life from birth. Charlene was one of them. She was dealt all the worst cards in life one after the other. And only 14 yrs old!

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy Před 3 měsíci +2

      Exactly. Life is so unfair. Imagine how differently her life would have turned out if she had grown up in a loving home.

  • @rosenaqua
    @rosenaqua Před 9 měsíci +120

    Aw man he sexually assaulted 4 young girls? Just thought it was just his ex, that’s why I invited him over to the house. I cannot with the adults, particularly her parents, who were supposed to protect her.

    • @charliez4837
      @charliez4837 Před 9 měsíci +16

      Those disgusting people calling themselves parents had more sympathy for the predators than they did for the children. Sad case

    • @liscatcat8756
      @liscatcat8756 Před 9 měsíci

      Aw ? This means sympathy why say aw ffs

    • @rosenaqua
      @rosenaqua Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@liscatcat8756 it’s sarcasm

  • @GodsIsrael
    @GodsIsrael Před 9 měsíci +119

    They are not " underage girls" They are CHILDREN

  • @youngkeefstanka7822
    @youngkeefstanka7822 Před 9 měsíci +66

    My family are from Blackpool. My grandparents’ neighbour was Charlene’s dentist. Many years after her disappearance Lancashire police came to him with a burnt tooth and asked if he could identify if it was Charlene’s. Naturally.. it was impossible to tell. I’ve always found that very disturbing. RIP Charlene, I hope the truth comes out eventually 🕊️

    • @RebeccaDoherty-cg7cf
      @RebeccaDoherty-cg7cf Před 9 měsíci +12

      I've just commented and said obviously the police know alot more than us but knowing something and being able to prove it are 2 completely different things. I believe they had the right guys jailed but struggled to get enough evidence so lied about somethings in the evidence. That's interesting about the tooth. Poor girl she was let down so badly x

    • @Ann-sj4pt
      @Ann-sj4pt Před 9 měsíci +10

      If at all possibke the pulp from the tooth could be examined for dna.

    • @phillipproussier3723
      @phillipproussier3723 Před 8 měsíci

      Prime suspect: *BBC* . Remember Jimmy Saville? 😉

  • @whocarescrapsa
    @whocarescrapsa Před 9 měsíci +127

    "Oh, I thought he r@ped his girlfriend - not a child - so we let him stay in our house", the parenting of the year award winning said.

    • @megs.hristova
      @megs.hristova Před 7 měsíci +6

      I would have loved to have had you on my side 3 years ago, when having beyond heated dispute with 2 male…. (trying to skip my description of them) … friends of my then partner who were adamant that if a woman is a partner (girlfriend or a wife) of a man, then practically it is IMpossible for her to claim she has been raped at any moment of time by the man as that’s called sex!!!! Willingness of the woman does not matter in any individual case as she has given a blanket permission to be had. Even if it is so bad that she leaves him after that, that is still ok as it was her fault - she had to have left earlier if she did not like it; after the fact means just that she did not like the sex and so decided to leave. I still feel sick when I see those 2 excuses of….sadly, their wives were there, both happy and with kids from them …and I am called ‘antisocial’ for banning them from my home and their sons from stepping anywhere close to my daughter! That gut-wrenching belief is not solely intellectual tumor but a cultural ulcer sadly…

  • @princessofhardrock3934
    @princessofhardrock3934 Před 9 měsíci +144

    This is heartbreaking!! Those kids didn’t have a fair chance at a decent life because of their horrible parents and failures of the system!😢

  • @KathyAnne28
    @KathyAnne28 Před 9 měsíci +90

    I absolutely believe they were basically renting her for SA to these predators for financial gain.

  • @racheldawson9395
    @racheldawson9395 Před 9 měsíci +85

    So frustrating, she didn't fall through the cracks, she and her siblings told people what was going on. Social services were involved and nothing was seriously done that's not falling through a crack but being shoved into a chasm!! Then the school expelling her instead of helping where they could knowing she was at risk!! Disgusting and how her parents haven't been charged with neglect, or willful endangerment or something!!

    • @TomNoles007
      @TomNoles007 Před 8 měsíci +2

      'Shoved in to a chasm' , that is a powerful image and I think you sum up this poor girl's life perfectly.

  • @sarahaudrey8663
    @sarahaudrey8663 Před 9 měsíci +45

    The fact that CPS and the police left these poor girls in that house is an utter disgrace!!! They knew what was going on and did nothing to save them. The girls reported abuse over and over and over and no-one helped them escape the depravity. Are CPS even human? Unforgivable conduct by people who are supposed to save children in abusive homes. I’m speechless.

    • @alisonreeder1587
      @alisonreeder1587 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Totally agree an absolute disgrace. Unforgivable

    • @TomNoles007
      @TomNoles007 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Very well put, wholeheartedly agree.

  • @sharongrigg5336
    @sharongrigg5336 Před 9 měsíci +51

    It always astounds me when parents like this are the first to sling accusations of being let down by everyone. Let's be honest nobody was looking out for this girl or her sister's but more importantly their parents weren't fit for purpose, absolutely disgusting & utterly vile.

  • @mazzaf7575
    @mazzaf7575 Před 9 měsíci +85

    To see her father standing there saying how awful it is when he abused her himself and sold her to paedophiles is absolutely sickening. What sorry, pathetic excuses for human beings her parents are.

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy Před 3 měsíci

      I'm sickened to the core.

  • @Frankieb2006
    @Frankieb2006 Před 9 měsíci +24

    That poor girl. No one’s introduction to life should be this horrific. I wish all children could just enjoy being children. Greatest gift my parents gave me. 😔

  • @Crackle-Crackle
    @Crackle-Crackle Před 9 měsíci +56

    The worst part for me is after these poor children were sexually abused, that their parents were aware of, and who also kept letting predators around, then their parents beat them. Absolutely deplorable. How could the government keep letting them go back home.

    • @Bella.Parabellum
      @Bella.Parabellum Před 9 měsíci

      Because the government is itself full of vile predators, groomers and abusers

    • @Charlie-bh3yk
      @Charlie-bh3yk Před 8 měsíci +4

      Because they care more for the rights of the parents than those of the child.

  • @kristiederyn
    @kristiederyn Před 9 měsíci +27

    Thank you for covering this story. Blackpool is my home town and I'm only 2 years older than Charlene. This was a big thing for all teens when we were younger and I can't pass what was "funny boyz" without thinking about her and other girls that were harmed.

    • @scarlettthebrave5854
      @scarlettthebrave5854 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Me too. My daughter had her hen do at Funny Girls and funny boyz is right across the road. I wouldn’t let anyone go in there for food😕

    • @phillipproussier3723
      @phillipproussier3723 Před 8 měsíci

      Prime suspect: *BBC* . Remember Jimmy Saville? 😉

  • @joshuaaaron125
    @joshuaaaron125 Před 9 měsíci +56

    I live in Blackpool, it’s still talked about a lot and sadly I think will go unsolved as the police cocked it up.

    • @envsf03
      @envsf03 Před 9 měsíci +20

      And Blackpool Social and Children's Services. No wonder they are rated so poorly.

    • @joshuaaaron125
      @joshuaaaron125 Před 9 měsíci +10

      @@envsf03 it’s a shocking state of affairs to be honest. Even 20 years on there’s still poor kids that have fallen between the cracks

    • @Sheena7625
      @Sheena7625 Před 4 měsíci

      Of course they did. Remember Jimmy Savile, prince Charles closest buddy! The BBC is PRIME SUSPECT

  • @SnowWhite717_
    @SnowWhite717_ Před 9 měsíci +36

    It’s sickening to see these instances where the police fail these children. This poor girl was failed by every single adult that should have protected her. Such a sad story. Rest in Peace Charlene. You’re in a place where you’ll always be loved, protected and forever young. The world is a little darker without your light. ❤

  • @dcsc1
    @dcsc1 Před 8 měsíci +30

    Her parents are wholeheartedly to blame for the demise of Charlene. If they hadn't been such lowlife, abusive parents who let known pedophiles come into their home and abuse their own daughter for money, she would'nt have turned into a troubled and traumatised youth roaming the streets. It starts at home and those fat, disgusting parents of hers should get jail time! They make me sick.

  • @lesleyjacques7132
    @lesleyjacques7132 Před 9 měsíci +46

    Shocking and you have covered this so well with so much respect for that poor girl. Thank you for bringing this case to light. Hope she gets some justice soon

  • @saratoussaint5553
    @saratoussaint5553 Před 9 měsíci +20

    All those kids were massively failed by so many and now two of them are dead! Charlene's sister Emma lives next door to my cousin and just up the road from my parents. She's a better parent than her own mother was!!

    • @rage707
      @rage707 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Sara you are a smikey-eyed beauty

  • @user-lu3fe5rt9i
    @user-lu3fe5rt9i Před 9 měsíci +14

    INFURIATING CASE.
    These children were failed by everyone, their family and the state!
    Their hopelessness is overwhelming...

  • @imameatballbro
    @imameatballbro Před 9 měsíci +21

    “11 years of agony for her parents” 😒🙄
    I’d be in forever agony if I found my little one were sexually assaulted…these parents seemingly coordinated ongoing affairs! They’re animals

  • @d.dorough
    @d.dorough Před 9 měsíci +66

    The children kept being returned to the Downs house?!? Sorry, but I think it is obvious that there were degrees of retribution every time that occurred! RIP Charlene.

    • @andygarside2418
      @andygarside2418 Před 9 měsíci +24

      As kids, me and my sisters were on the at risk register because of the abuse we suffered at the hands of my 'mothers' boyfriend... we'd get beaten (or worse, for my sisters), we'd tell social services about the abuse who'd confront our 'parents', but then they'd leave us in the house, and we'd get beaten for telling people about the abuse. Social services are useless!

    • @d.dorough
      @d.dorough Před 9 měsíci +10

      @andygarside2418 I'm sorry for the abuse you and your siblings endured. That scenario is so often the case! So in the end, do CPS help? I don't think so!?

    • @TomNoles007
      @TomNoles007 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@andygarside2418 My goodness that is terrible, I hope life for you is a lot, lot better now.

    • @phillipproussier3723
      @phillipproussier3723 Před 8 měsíci

      Prime suspect: *BBC* . Remember Jimmy Saville? 😉

    • @d.dorough
      @d.dorough Před 8 měsíci

      @@phillipproussier3723 Being in the US and not familiar with that case. Will look it up-

  • @sazmeister
    @sazmeister Před 9 měsíci +16

    i KNEW you'd do charlene justice and rightly criticise how her case was handled by the UK media, the police, and the media, so refreshing and respectful, love your channel

  • @Pixieworksstudio
    @Pixieworksstudio Před 9 měsíci +31

    If only these lovely children had grown up in a family that really loved them. These parents were abusive at best, and at worst probably farming out their children to men that came to the house. The 2 cases, as far as we know, of not contacting emergency services soon enough proved they only thought of themselves and neither cared or at any time thought of, actually looking after their children.

    • @paulthrutner9114
      @paulthrutner9114 Před 9 měsíci

      The kebab meat theory is absolute bollocks…the main suspect is a guy called “Nigel Lloyd”…he was a chef in Blackpool and had a history of child abuse and was even on a Gordon Ramseys kitchen nightmares episode which has been taken off all platforms due to him.. he was part of a child abusers ring.

  • @Kerriangel
    @Kerriangel Před 9 měsíci +28

    This case makes me wonder if perhaps Charlene was pregnant and in order to stop the abuse actually reaching a court, especially if a DNA test was done on the baby, she was murdered.

  • @juliebullen5291
    @juliebullen5291 Před 9 měsíci +16

    why are her parents not being investigated more and where are the tears and sadness for there lost child what a terrible shame

  • @elissamay67
    @elissamay67 Před 9 měsíci +10

    Thank you for this video. I remember reading about Charlene in the Times when they were exposing grooming gangs. I think about her a lot and she deserves justice.

  • @cressidacrumble7857
    @cressidacrumble7857 Před 9 měsíci +19

    The parents moved from Coventry to Blackpool but the lifestyle remained the same. It wasn’t the lifestyle they wanted to escape it must have been due to threats, enemies and or the social services involvement.

  • @marcj4788
    @marcj4788 Před 9 měsíci +26

    Wow so sad this case, even her parents let her down by allowing dirty old vile perverts to ruin her innocence! Bless her i hope she will be found and gets justice ❤🙏💚

  • @ageebs5986
    @ageebs5986 Před 9 měsíci +19

    The question is why rapists are given such short and/or mild sentences

  • @Chris-eb3zu
    @Chris-eb3zu Před 9 měsíci +15

    So many scumbags in one story. The girl never stood a chance. Both parents should also be jailed. Evil losers.

  • @pammywhammy3767
    @pammywhammy3767 Před 9 měsíci +119

    The 911 operator has more sense than her own mother! Charlene & all children associated with these people were failed😢

    • @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673
      @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 Před 9 měsíci +7

      999*

    • @aussiechick23
      @aussiechick23 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 same same but different. You knew what she meant

    • @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673
      @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@aussiechick23 yes, i did. so what. Americans seem to think their Emergency number is used in every country. Funny how Aussies dont automatically say 000 when referring to EMS in the US, UK, Canada, etc.

    • @aussiechick23
      @aussiechick23 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Get a life you gronk@@namewithheldbygoogleforsec673

    • @Caz_2087
      @Caz_2087 Před 9 měsíci +5

      999, this is the UK, not USA

  • @Helen-sound
    @Helen-sound Před 9 měsíci +18

    24.55 It’s rich her father making a statement like that in front of camera when he was renting her out for sex to men he met in pubs . I hope something was done to prosecute him .

  • @alfredawalker34
    @alfredawalker34 Před 9 měsíci +25

    That child didn't have a chance

  • @misska7535
    @misska7535 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Poor Charlene, these looser "parents" are maddening. How many times did they fail Charlene & siblings....I lost count even CPS & the police. They were exploiting their own daughters out, sickening. 🤦🏻‍♀️😔💔
    Thank you TC for another upload.
    God bless 👑🙏🕊🌹🍂🌹🍂

  • @angelicdexter
    @angelicdexter Před 9 měsíci +6

    The lack of humanity from the parents, the lack of care from the authorities, it's too much. I'm 10 mins in and I don't think I can watch anymore. That poor soul deserved more. And it's soul crashing to think that her entire life she only knew pain and abuse

  • @kxttnip9815
    @kxttnip9815 Před 9 měsíci +21

    Absolutely shocking that the kids were allowed to continue staying w these low lives!! Heartbreaking! On a side note, Wednesday uploads? YES Pls!

  • @ashleyhoffman4117
    @ashleyhoffman4117 Před 9 měsíci +14

    the situation regarding abuse at takeaways is not only happening in blackpool,,,,,,believe me when i say this is a UK wide problem

    • @WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey
      @WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey Před 9 měsíci

      Yep. I'm convinced the police are paid off and/or are afraid of being called racist if they ask questions.

  • @michaels7258
    @michaels7258 Před 9 měsíci +6

    This is award winning level journalism. Great work on a horrible story. Hope they find her.

  • @Sabrinajaine
    @Sabrinajaine Před 9 měsíci +21

    19:53 Thank you for this. I hate seeing real people, especially children, reduced to a clickbait headline when there's no evidence to back it up.

  • @katy_h
    @katy_h Před 9 měsíci +7

    I'm from Blackpool and remember seeing Charlene's picture on the back of buses, as well as Paige Chivers. So incredibly sad.

  • @yeaitsmimi
    @yeaitsmimi Před 9 měsíci +15

    Wtf, all of the friends they met and brought home just happened to be predators? 😮😢 This is so sad.

  • @AuthenticallyAlvarez
    @AuthenticallyAlvarez Před 9 měsíci +17

    Well this upload was a nice surprise after work! Thank you TC❤
    Another sad tragic case. Disgusting quite frankly. Poor girl and her siblings, too 😢

  • @EverythingsOrange
    @EverythingsOrange Před 9 měsíci +11

    Watching the first 5 mins or so is infuriating!! Why aren't these children cared for, surely more can be done to protect them

  • @jademcqueen5474
    @jademcqueen5474 Před 9 měsíci +17

    The police, social services and vile parents are meant to protect against predators, this poor girl lived a life of abuse 😢 so sad

  • @Pellegrineanita
    @Pellegrineanita Před 6 měsíci +3

    It speaks volumes to me when all 3 girls wanted out of the "family" home, why were they sent back there?

  • @noriwilliams4637
    @noriwilliams4637 Před 9 měsíci +11

    those parents need to be arrested

  • @amywill9185
    @amywill9185 Před 9 měsíci +18

    This story is horribly depressing. What an awful family. Im truly sorry for their children. Sometimes sterilization doesn’t seem so crazy.

  • @twelvesmylimit
    @twelvesmylimit Před 9 měsíci +15

    The 999 operater was openly and rightly judgemental and disgusted with the mother.

  • @gavinjohnson8951
    @gavinjohnson8951 Před 9 měsíci +11

    The alcoholic dad renting his daughter out for beer money... Absolutely sick!

  • @erinsmith1819
    @erinsmith1819 Před 9 měsíci +10

    when the mom finally called she said i’m gona run out i got something to do like wtf???

  • @judithsullivan9703
    @judithsullivan9703 Před 8 měsíci +3

    This poor little girl was so incredibly unprotected first by her mother, then social services... how could they have ignored so very much!..Then the police she could have been saved!

  • @aliasme-cc2qb
    @aliasme-cc2qb Před 9 měsíci +57

    Horrible story but I love the lady who is narrating this story. I could listen to her read insurance booklets or encyclopedia entries and enjoy them.

    • @adambane1719
      @adambane1719 Před 9 měsíci

      Whats wrong with encyclopedia's ??

    • @patedwards8844
      @patedwards8844 Před 9 měsíci

      Soothing 😊

    • @aliasme-cc2qb
      @aliasme-cc2qb Před 9 měsíci

      Nothing wrong but kind of dull, like insurance booklets! This lady's voice could make it awesome!! She is awesome.@@adambane1719

  • @cattmartyr8156
    @cattmartyr8156 Před 9 měsíci +8

    This episode has been exceptionally well done. Visually and in regards to respecting the victim. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @threelittlepigs3059
    @threelittlepigs3059 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Missing for days before her mother reported it. Indifferent to the police wanting her to stay home so they could take a report and get the ball rolling. These parents don’t deserve any sympathy.
    I instantly thought she got home, parents pimped her out (again) something went bad and parents got rid of the evidence. Blame the immigrants, job done. And then for some cash flow sue the coppers and write a book. Maybe I watch to many true crime shows.

  • @Caz_2087
    @Caz_2087 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Is that "Mother" unwell in the head??? 'Sorry, I've got to go out soon' she didnt give a flying f!!! Why would she when for years she allowed her own flesh and blood to be abused, used and degraded by grown men. She needs, well, i cant say on here what she needs. As for the "Father", If he could pimp his own daughter out to his mates, sure it wouldnt of stopped him messing with her himself. Its actually terrifying to think what a standard night was like in that "home". Horrifying.

  • @debbiespence2121
    @debbiespence2121 Před 9 měsíci +9

    I have watched videos where the dispatcher is rude or impatient with callers, but this one is different and thank God. Someone finally put the evil "mom" in her place by telling her hey your daughter is 14 and missing... and you need to stay home! BRAVO to this dispatcher!!! Someone finally cared about this young girl. How sad for her that her own parents are so disgusting and despicable.

  • @samanthalandry2296
    @samanthalandry2296 Před 9 měsíci +5

    My god. I’m only three and a half minutes in and I’m furious already

  • @beepruett7776
    @beepruett7776 Před 6 měsíci +2

    really sad there is STILL no justice for Charlene,

  • @zsofiaszedelyi6392
    @zsofiaszedelyi6392 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Absolutely heartbreaking… 😞 May she Rest In Peace 🕊️

  • @aliatv8651
    @aliatv8651 Před 9 měsíci +15

    8 mins in & im wondering why the father keeps inviting men back to his house?!?!

    • @d6mafia13
      @d6mafia13 Před 9 měsíci

      To pay to have sex with his daughter. I know to most normal people it seems ridiculous and unbelievable but I guarantee that's what was happening here.

    • @JamesCM86
      @JamesCM86 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Pimping his own daughter, yet had the cheek to blame it on ‘foreigners’ lol . Far right logic

  • @samanthafraser6158
    @samanthafraser6158 Před 9 měsíci +24

    Omg this has made my day. Releasing an episode on a Wednesday 🎉

  • @nixpuk75
    @nixpuk75 Před 9 měsíci +10

    This was a thoughtful and clear telling of this sad story. What a mess and tragic end for Charlene and other vulnerable young people connected with her, such as her brother and friend. All of the adults in her life failed in their duty of care. It's appalling

  • @Furthermore69
    @Furthermore69 Před 9 měsíci +5

    This channel is the best True crime channel on this platform. Real time and compassion is given to the victims and it does not sensationalise anything, just facts and understanding. 🙌🏿🙌🏿

  • @cmadridk
    @cmadridk Před 9 měsíci +4

    Thank you for collaborating with Naomi. I have so much respect for the work you all do.

  • @laurakenny1771
    @laurakenny1771 Před 9 měsíci +7

    The picture shown at 26 mins in of Robert Ewing is actually a picture of Gareth Dewhurst. Dewhurst helped Ewing dispose of Paiges body. He's been out for several years & I have seen the POS out & about. Paiges body has never been disclosed. Both should be strung up like so many others in this story!
    It's heartbreaking how many times Charlene was failed, especially by the people she loved.
    I have such huge respect for Ronay & her team. Keep making waves. I pray Charlene will get justice. 🙏

    • @bobbobby9798
      @bobbobby9798 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Uncanny how two young girls went missing and in both cases no body in one town within years of each other.

  • @charlottejackson4709
    @charlottejackson4709 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I've watched so many documentaries on this I almost skipped this episode, so glad I didn't. There is so much detail I've never heard before. I don't know who is behind this channel, but you are fast becoming my favourite channel.

  • @jessicamarydubois4370
    @jessicamarydubois4370 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Absolutely disgraceful!!! How on earth was this poor child let down so badly by protective services. How could anyone justify removing her from her home and then sending her back again!????!!!! And the absolute cheek of her parents suing the police when they were ultimately responsible for her demise....why weren't they locked up? Seriously, can someone explain to me how her parents weren't put behind bars!???! Shame on Social Services. Charlene's life was already destroyed before she disappeared 😢😢😢 My heart truly goes out to her 💔

    • @singularlyinepthuman
      @singularlyinepthuman Před 7 měsíci +1

      She was an easy target for exploitation because she had such an awful home life. What her parents put her through absolutely set her up for this tragic end. They are the root cause of all of this.

  • @reena9726
    @reena9726 Před 9 měsíci +17

    The ‘fathers’ little speech near the end is embarrassing

  • @magstar7494
    @magstar7494 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This was really well put together. So much research gone into this. Really hope one day she gets justice and is laid to rest.

  • @jojobooboo
    @jojobooboo Před 9 měsíci +39

    Those kids should of been protected from their parents when the 1st incident happened. Maybe Charlene would still be alive now, in fact she would be still alive. Another let down by the system.

  • @lawaldo87
    @lawaldo87 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Your channel is definitely one of my favourites. Your delivery is clear and concise and no matter how much i tbink.i know a case, i always learn more from your channel.

  • @randallreid424
    @randallreid424 Před 9 měsíci +6

    To be born into such an unloving family sucks. As a father I can’t imagine ever letting such filth into my home and creating an environment that made my daughter vulnerable to them no f ing way

  • @jademcl4727
    @jademcl4727 Před 6 měsíci +4

    "Troubled teenager" She was barely a teenager. She was just a child.

  • @jsch9173
    @jsch9173 Před 9 měsíci +7

    It’s easy to say that Charlene and her sisters. The problem is that foster homes and congregate facilities are sometimes even worse. I am a social worker and used to work in an ER that served both kids and adults. A lot of the kids told me that they were being neglected or abused by their foster parents or in the facilities where they were staying. I dealt with social service staff who were stupid and incompetent. The good ones burned out and left.
    This is not to excuse the many failures in this case, starting with her revolting parents and continuing on through social services and the police. It makes for extremely sad viewing. I will say that this is an outstanding piece of reporting and I found myself riveted almost despite myself.

  • @oscarb9761
    @oscarb9761 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I love your videos! Your delivery is spot on and your voice is so comforting and respectful! Nothing but good things to say about this channel!

  • @libbyclement5148
    @libbyclement5148 Před 9 měsíci +7

    RIP Charlene 💙🙏💙🙏💙 I’m so sorry this World failed you 💔

  • @amandabroad6139
    @amandabroad6139 Před 9 měsíci +11

    These poor kids deserved so much better than the parents they got. Disgusting

  • @michellerenner6880
    @michellerenner6880 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Thank you for the recommendation of the podcast…. It’s fantastic.

  • @Jay_Dee_Jay
    @Jay_Dee_Jay Před 9 měsíci +5

    This case is one of the sickest cases I've ever heard of. 😳

  • @taleenkassabian1196
    @taleenkassabian1196 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Being very judgemental here - the parents look rough as shit, the type of people in the UK you would avoid. I am so gutted Charlene went through all this horrendous stuff in her short life.

  • @TheTrichD
    @TheTrichD Před 9 měsíci +10

    Please God, give her justice 🙏💖🙏

  • @chanjo1301
    @chanjo1301 Před 9 měsíci +18

    She had a lot of sadness in her. And she was very caring...So many stories that a simple photo can tell you. She would not have been a happy adult. Her childhood would have haunted her...with a chance of it turning her into a monster like her parents...A harsh reality of what can happen in cases where victims never find salvation. I hope she rests in peace

  • @suzannekealey9005
    @suzannekealey9005 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Thank you for this. Hope it reaches more people who don’t have the other side of the story

  • @markmiller6402
    @markmiller6402 Před 9 měsíci +9

    The only professional that did their job in this whole sad story, was the lady that answered the 999 call. If I’ve learned anything watching these true crime videos,it’s that
    1. CCTV is useless,unless it’s being used to issue you a fine.
    2. Nonces can offend repeatedly and still get little or no jail time.
    3. Someone is always covering something up, usually the people you rely on to tell the truth.