The Disturbing Case Of Clare Bernal
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 16. 12. 2022
- Clare Bernal had recently moved to London and started her dream job, but a chance encounter would soon turn her life into a living nightmare. A terrifying campaign of harassment and stalking would take over her entire life and it would soon end in tragedy.
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to this day, stalking is still not taken seriously by cops and courts.
I don't want you stalking anyone, it's so illegal.
And in England, neither are repeat sex offenders and child molesters, since it's standard procedure in the UK justice system to just let them go with new identities. Such as in the case of Sarah Sands and "Michael Pleasted".
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@@nomada6789 why what?
Exactly . And the worst part about it is its a world wide problem and I don't thing it will ever be taken seroius enough at all no matter how many people die .
"Partner?" He wasn't her partner. He was an acquaintance who latched on like a leach. It wasn't her fault or her participation. This garbage goes on all over the world.
Yes it does. I had an abusive ex who used to beat me daily, stalk me for over a year. She left threatening, demanding notes on my car. She broke into my apartment and went through my phone that I left charging. She threw a brick through my back windshield. She threatened my daughter. And the police basically told me to fuck off because I'm a dude. Good times. Men make up a huge portion of domestic violence victims. Not to mention, men make up the majority of homicide victims. The majority of violent crimes victims. The majority of suicide victims. The majority of death from workplace accidents. This guy is a POS. Violence against women is absolutely disgusting in any form it takes. But it really is a shame how little support male victims really have.
@@lccsd2392 thank you. I truly appreciate that
leech
@@CancelHappiness and women Mostly get a lenient sentence than men. Double standards
Jacqueline Raines *leech
So basically the ONLY person who did their damn job and tried to help Claire was the head of security. Crazy. Poor Claire.
Can you believe it ? And the worse part is to this day its still happening to women all over the world because its not taken seriously as far as I can see this is so crazy
She looks old for 22
She looks 40
What has that got to do with the original comment?
What a stupid comment@@BonaTalevska-bg8mo
Almost every stalking case I've ever heard about ends in violence and still the complaints are never taken seriously. It's so disheartening to hear these stories.
Thatâs because you only hear about the ones the end in violence. The vast majority donât end in violence
â@@joemooney6758You sound like a stalker.
@@joemooney6758youâre right, however people should be able to get better protection when being stalked. Itâs pretty much exclusively put on the victim to avoid sketchy situations.
Well, it's only the ones that end badly that ever receives any attention. Every stalking case we all hear about ends in violence.
We never hear about some dude who just drives around looking at someone.
Police suck thatâs why
The way he was behaving is not normal behavior. Stalking is not normal human behaviour...that's predatory behavior, not civilized whatsoever. Imo, her case should've been classed as high risk instantaneously.
The laws need to change for that to happen.
If you believe in evolution, which i do not, stalking is completely normal.
@@RuminatingWizard Peculiar remark. Acting "normally", in the evolutionary sense, is practically the opposite of being civilized.
I think it's normal my girlfriend doesn't and can't go anywhere without me knowing about it. I've got apps that mirror her phone that she doesn't know about and I occasionally take a day off work to follow her or sit across the road from her work to see what she's up too. I do it to protect her from the weirdos out there walking the streets I keep her safe.
@@RuminatingWizard I believe in adaptation. Where a species of plant, animal, insect or human can adapt to live in different environments or ecosystems. But, I don't believe in a species like a chimpanzee, for example, can evolve into a human being. Anyone who says stalking another human being is normal, can only be a narcissistic psychopath. Another human being, whether it's a female, child or man, shouldn't be viewed as prey. People who prey on other humans are deviants like pĂŠdos/chomos, rapists, *stalkers,* cannibals or murderers.
*Deviants* like them, I think it's safe to call them *"Sub-Humans."*
I will never understand how stalking, abusing, and killing a woman that doesnât want to be with u is a better option than letting her be and finding someone else! It baffles me!
Ego. Coveting...entitlement
Exactly like wtf
Well, those people are sickos
how the hell was stalking NOT a criminal offence before this!?
not enough men being stalked and killed by women
It was.
It was and is.
But proving intent is basically impossible unless its an extreme case.
Lmao it was then too. A lot of cases on stalking
it was, but police simply didnât care
This is horrible. Claire would still be here if they never let that animal out of prison. Deepest condolences to her family and friends.
He is not an Animal but just another sick Human " Monster" Big difference!!
Do not insult animals please.
He had no soul to be clarified as an animal.
He was a monster!
Weâre all animals, technically. That guy is a monster.
I agree with you, but it's not fair to the animal kingdom to describe him as one of them. He is a human being worst luck!
Stop insulting animals please.
She was severely let down by the law. How many times does this need to happen? RIP Clare
And it was a foreigner doing this! They could even protect their own women from some nutjob outsider.
Thousands apparently
It took months before she reported. After that they had to follow the laws which is lenient on stalking
@@Spartakiss why are you lying đ
â@@Mattblaze1477 đ°đ
How many times does this need to happen before law enforcement gets its priorities straight? No normal person behaves this way, or stalks people! Immediate arrest for stalking! We immediately arrest nonviolent people who never hurt anyone or threatened anyone all the time! Enough!
The Police can only do what the law allows them to do,the laws need to change.
But Clareâs mom said herself that no one, her family or friends, knew the danger she was in. So how were the police supposed to? They werenât present to any of the threats. Itâs literally he said/she said. I donât really think the police let her down. Theyâre not superheroes. Itâs an absolutely tragic case. But this guy was psycho and determined to do what he did. If someone wants to kill you badly enough, they probably will unfortunately.
I do agree that stalking should be talking much more seriously but I don't think it's fair to blame the police. This went on for months however before Clare finally reported it, so prior to that you can't blame authorities when they weren't informed. Furthermore, the police didn't talk to coworkers so it is possible they were never given that information from Clare about witnesses at work. As stated in the video, he had no criminal history; law enforcement can only do so much without the laws behind them. Even if officers do charge someone if there is insufficient criminal history or evidence it's the courts that won't proceed with the charges. At least now with the tougher stalking laws hopefully this will prevent further tragedies. Why he was released on bail though I will never understand. It is the courts and the lack of laws that are often the real problem.
That's is what I cannot understand! law enforcement is so lax in instances of stalking!!! They need to be proactive and arrest the frigging perpetrator!! RIP Clare!
You know law enforcement don't make lws right they're there to enforce them only. It's the government who need to wake up and change the way it is not the officers on the streets.
Good on you three women for establishing the Family Justice Centre. Out of your terrible grief, you birthed something truly good.
He should have never been released from prison once violating the protection order! RIP to Claire!đ
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Abusers are released soon after arrest. Suspected murderers are released.
Stalking is no more an offense for life in prison then sexual assault.
Less so.
They go by prior records and how the law is written.
Honestly. I know it is the UK. But I believe Japan and Singapore have the best legal system in the world and the U.S. definitely needs to adopt it. Our prisons can rival cities with their own zip code!
Slap on the wrist and release.
Police don't care about people's safety. They're there to solve crimes in their heads. That's it.
That's right. I watched another case today where the judge wouldn't raise the bail of a man who violated the protection order over 60 times. He killed his wife and then himself. Killers have more rights than the victims.
@@tessaducek5601 I live in Japan.... and NO !!!!
That is not a reasonable "legal system" in ANY way shape or form !
What baffles me is that despite all the information and open discussions about the dangers of stalking, victims like Alice Ruggles were still let down by law enforcement. Every complaint must be taken seriously as a potential threat to life and every stalker must be removed from the potential to carry out their threat. That means no bail, no probation, no release back into the community until that threat is extinguished.
The problem is that you can't just imprison/extinguish someone on the basis of a complaint.
@@eadweard.you can based on evidence and consistent reports from multiple sources of stalking behavior. All of that was present in this case, cops just didnât bother to do anything meaningful
They probably thought she was just being paranoid aka woman disease. This is why police officers should have better training and a higher requirements.
Other than a total of two officers, I don't trust the police worth a damn. Too many bad apples and more than enough who don't do anything about it, making the entire bunch of apples bad. I have a conceal carry, a knife I always have on me, and a knife in my car on top of having learned self-defense. I've already gone through enough DV and SA to know the police aren't gonna do anything, even with evidence - especially if the perpetrator has connections. So frankly, idc if I go to prison, I'm taking matters into my own hands and I'm fighting to kill if it happens to me or if I see someone else go through it. I refuse to do nothing and allow such lowlives to continue polluting the air with their breathing and hurt someone when they'd get a slap on the wrist until they murder (and even then, sometimes they get ridiculously short sentences). Go ahead and report to the police and do everything, but I personally would rather act first than wait until it's too late. Because by the time the law actually finally does something or the case is considered serious and not just paranoia, it's a matter of life or death by that point.
@@esteemedmortal5917 Quite right! There was a consistent pattern of behavior with witnesses that the police didn't even bother to interview in Claire's case. In Alice Ruggles' case she was more or less just brushed off despite having reported her stalker, provided a statement and evidence of his behavior. I'm glad Claire's mother pushed to change the law and not only force the legislation to make stalking illegal but also to create a foundation that allowed for all victims to be categorized as high-risk immediately.
The stalking laws need to have much bigger teeth, they are still very weak at preventing anything.
I'm not sure what the answer is but I've just been on the other end of it, from a liar that made false allegations about me, its taken near two years for it to be thrown out of court.
@The Aussie Family nope, not one bit.
There are few places and people in the world where stalking behavior couldn't immediately be confirmed or disproven today. Are you Amish?
Stalking should be an OBVIOUS red flag that if it is not taken care of it WILL escalate into rape and murder.
So it should be treated with a lot more serious punishments than what it is now and also they should be non stop monitored by the police.
@@maebandy doesnât mean anything effective will be done. Are you a horseâs arse? đ
This one was really hard to keep watching, because you knew exactly what was going to happen, including the completely inadequate police response. It was like watching a horrifying train crash in slow motion. She did everything right and still, she is dead. When I was stalked I didnât even think of going to the policeâŠI just blamed myself for giving the wrong signalsâŠsomehowâŠand constantly asked male friends to walk me home. Retrospectively that was really slipshod, but like this young woman, I didnât want anyone to get in trouble and I was terrified, I might make the situation worse, rather than betterâŠ
Been there, done that as well.
@ Miriam S, I too have been a victim of a dangerous stalker, former BF, in the mid â94 and forced an officer at Houston PD to take my statement as he refused. I was so angry that he treated me in such a manner. It seems that even though we have the same rights as men we are still considered second class citizens. As for WOC, they are still treated to this day in America worse than Caucasian women. These so-called Insels are also a dangerous threat to women and yet they arenât monitored nor tracked in their online chatter as a few have killed many women based on their ideals that they DESERVE a partner, delusional and threatening group.
Welp after watching so many situations like that I know one thing... If you have a stalker - get him before he gets you... In the end peoples will tell you it your fault anyway - but at least you won't end up raped and murdered...
@rvoit Iâm sure it makes you feel safe to pretend you could have done better. Enjoy living in that lie if it helps you sleep at night.
You gave the wrong signals? Women want to be able to flaunt their beauty without accountability, or repercussions. Sure, it's their prerogative. But for males, it can mental abuse and some of the flaunting appears mean spirited. Man's laws will never be able to protect women completely and nature will always remind women, always.
I have a stalker and itâs been 4 1/2 years. He has been arrested 3 times and is still out. My life is turned upside down and itâs not fair
So sorry đą
How on Earth has a man known to police and previously in court because violence be aloud to have/own a firearm? It's just damn right insane!
He smuggled it in after a trip to his country.
It doesn't matter you can make a gun anyways on a 3D printer now it doesn't even make any difference he got the gun in Slovakia and he imported the gun in the London they probably didn't have a record of him in there you obviously didn't hear the story very well
why do police not take cases like this seriously? then act all surprised when the victim is killed. this makes me livid.
I don't know the statistics in the UK, but in the US, 40% of police officers beat their wives. So yeah, they don't take violence against women seriously because they're perpetrating it.
The police are at this kind of behaviour all too often
Sad how she initially felt embarrassed to say that she was being stalked.
The sad thing is that sometimes one date is even too late with these type of obsessive men.
So tragic for Clare and beyond sad for her mother. Glad she spearheaded the group, along with the two other moms who had lost their daughters, in getting help to victims of stalking.
I happened to go to the same college as my Highschool sweet heart. We broke up senior year but stayed friends into college.
During college I was dead set on having her fall for me again and I went through lengths to see here when I could and be there for her when she needed. She would call me all the time invite me over talk to me about everything even let me sleep in her bed. Then she got a boyfriend and I was heartbroken. I found my self skating around her apartment looking for her location on apps and her friends stories and as soon as I realized what I was doing I went to my schools therapist, I even talked to my other friends and decided to transfer schools. Now we maintain a healthy friendship and I have actually moved on and I think what im trying to say is, gentlemen. Love is deep and complex especially when youâre young. If you find your self even beginning to try and control someoneâs life if you are telling someone the situation out loud and it sounds like you have an obsession. Then please be self aware enough to see someone about it and get your self out of that situation before you loose your mind and become a risk to your self and the people you love.
Nice to see you be honest..
Good for you. Good for you for being honest with yourself and your situation. I was a crazy on and off girlfriend to my now ex boyfriend, and looking back I was very young (almost ten years ago this started) and I was obsessive over him and would try and control everything about our break ups or him leaving I would throw massive tantrums and looked like a pure psycho... so finally after our break up, after years of him putting up with my shit, I actually left him... Then I never acted like that again, I got in medication that helped with my ups and downs and anxiety, then I dealt with some counseling and looking back it is so disturbing to see myself as this control freak almost stalker... but I guess my point of sharing this, is girls almost get an excuse for their toxicity where men really do get targeted on behaviors like this... and I really think it should be illegal and immorally wrong no matter what gender... I donât know why women get the scape on this, I have seen plenty other abusive and toxic women that STALK their partners yet nobody is calling it that.. why??
@@sydneystark1501 what are you talking about đ everyone calls it out. They even made a famous movie all the way back in the 80s about a female stalkerâŠ. âFatal Attractionâ with Michael Douglas and Glenn Close.
The system is so depressingly broken. My heart breaks for Claire so much. When the police said there was no evidence of 'threats to kill,' wasn't there a solid witness, who was their work colleague, whom said that that putrid excuse for a man asked him how long he will get if he killed someone, full well knowing he meant Claire? R.I.P beloved Claire â€ïž
Plus he sent a text saying "If I can't have you then no one will" That is a direct threat.
almost in every case of stalking, there is nothing the law enforcement can do to protect the first victim... as they are overwhelmed by the amount of report, stalker specially who does not have any prior record will just get brushed off..
I am curious tho, Is there any cyber security department on the police department existed yet?? there should be some officer who is dedicated to these kind of case, to figure out what a stalker do to their victims, because most of the time they will track their victim using a lot of internet..
@@JesusAlfonsoRafael don't they use witnesses in court?
@Joli Natural Skin Care more than one murder was acted upon after that exact saying. Why are girls attracted to the bad guys?
I have nothing but the greatest of respect for Clare's mum, Tricia for making a real difference. Her hard work, along with other survivors of such tragedies is really powerful and inspiring.
Good on you Mum, fabulous effort, fabulous memorial. Two who should never have met. RIP Clare.
I remember this when it happened. Such a stunning looking young lady with her whole life ahead of her. RIP Clare
Such an infuriating case because Clare's death could have been prevented but due to poor service and negligence - we have another death of an innocent woman. Rest in Peace Clare.
Lol
@@Island_proper What's funny? You deluded in the head or something? Weirdo
@@Island_proper whatâs funny
To everyone, particularly my fellow women since weâre socialized to be nice and spare the feelings of others, BE RUDE. Not everyone deserves kindness or consideration. They cross a line, they make you uncomfortable, they donât accept your refusal, you are fully in your right to be rude; no second chances, no feeling bad if they get fired because of your complaint, no pity dates.
Even if other people tell you youâre being mean or this person is really a nice guy or girl, ignore it; they donât know the situation and they are not you. Trust your gut.
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Finally someone says it out loud!!
Being rude is the only language those men understand. If only another guy can make him stop, ask around and there'll be a bouncer or biker who's gladly helping you to bring your point across...it doesn't get violent, the stalkers are too chickensh*t for that.
I took a self defense class in college. One of the things they taught is to loudly challenge someone who gets in your space without permission - be rude - and they had us practice. It was hard to do! Female socialization in action. Lots of giggling and halfhearted attempts. The teacher called us out on it: âBE RUDE!â She made us do it until we were all treating the exercise seriously. Some gals were upset to the point of tears, but we all got the lesson.
It came in handy soon after when I did something stupid - went to a car wash alone late at night. I was vacuuming and listening to the very loud radio đ„ș, knelt down between the front door and the front passenger footwell. The vacuum stopped and I became aware of a guy behind me. He was knelt down too, with his legs spread from the door to the car frame, blocking me in. He said âHi beautifulâ with a big smile. I pointed the vacuum hose at him like a gun and yelled âGET OUT OF HERE!â looking him sternly in the eyes. He put up his hands, backed away and left. I quickly left too, though I wasnât done cleaning my car.
I wrote all that to make the points that (1) Donât put yourself in dangerous situations, and (2) Make a scene. Yelling is OK!
That RUDE exercise was a turning point in that class, which included learning how to break their little fingers if youâre being strangled, and breaking their kneecap by aiming beyond the knee (not just at the point of contact, but a few inches past the kneecap) so your kick will have some real punch. Everyone was more serious about the need to practice self defense techniques.
Finally (3) Learn self defense. In most cases we canât overpower someone intent on harming us, but the various techniques give us a fighting chance.
@@terredee I love that you also acknowledged the importance of not putting ourselves in hamful situations. The way this wold is obsessed with calling out âvictim blamingâ You canât even suggest that very important first step ppl jumping down your throat. And thanks for all the other points!
@@ElaAusDemTal Unless they're in the possession of guns
I wish law enforcement would take stalker cases seriously. She has evidence & it is affecting her way of life. I dealt with a stalker and getting them off your back is not easy.
You move away..I did not get the restraining order because my son was USED against me..lier...Master manipulative person.. played victim all over..
What a brave, amazing mum. I'm so sorry that happened to her daughter.
I've heard about numerous stalking cases in the UK. It seems authorities drop the ball or never take it seriously enough until after the person is badly assaulted or killed.
It seemed everyone could tell this guy was bats*t crazy except the jolly old authorities. I bet all the women in Slovakia knew also.
Uk justice is often a joke.
She was so beautiful. It is so tragic what happened to her. I applaud her mother for fighting for the rights of others who experiencing stalking.
People who stalk others are by definition dangerous, it's a serious mental health issue. So if this happens to you report this to the police immediately! Don't wait so long like in this case. It will never just stop and it can only escalate.
This is so sad. She had her whole life ahead of her. I donât understand why some guys canât take the loss and walk away. Find love and happiness with someone else.
I was stranger stalked in the early 80's. Thank goodness I had a sex crimes detective who was on the ball and educated me on what to do to help protect myself. One thing he told me was that stalkers almost never do anything, but if they do, it will be the most f**ked up thing you wouldn't be able to imagine. Then, he told me a few accounts from his own cases that were truly horrific.
Stay safe out there! Educate yourself on stalkers (Back in the 80s, there wasn't anything to research to help yourself.) And if you're being stalked, go to the police and report what's going on. Some stalkers are serial stalkers, and it may be possible to get them off the streets sooner.
What were you told to do for protection?
I've been dealing with a stranger-stalker who I met because he was hanging around outside my work and he started following me home. One time he stood outside for three hours, just waiting for me to leave. And the cops did they can't really do anything unless they manage to catch him in the act, since I don't know who he is. I didn't even find out his first name for six months. He doesn't follow me like every day, he just shows up at random. At this point, I just get my dad to pick me up from work if I see him, since I know he takes the bus like I do. I think he has a crush on me, but he's also looks like he's 17-19 and I'm almost 30 so I'm just baffled and creeped out. At least my boss (who's a huge guy, easily twice the size of Stalker Boy) is supportive and told me to call him if I see the guy
@@Werevampiwolf please don't underestimate what someone like that is capable of, it could cost you your life! So many women in today's world still have this thinking they'll just depend on someone else(cops, dad, bf, big boss etc) to protect them, & it drives me NUTS.
Nobody but YOU is or can be responsible for your immediate safety. By the time police or a bystander responds to your calls or screams for help, you could well be fatally injured or killed. Or worse abducted, tortured, raped & then killed.
You must be proactive. For starters up your situational awareness(be curious about the world around you basically), & if you live in an area where you still have the right to carry a concealed firearm with/without a license. do that. If so, take a class or 2 to boost your confidence & ability in protecting yourself with it! If this right has been taken away, MOVE (seriously! Because this means the area you live places more value on control than you as an individual & your right to protect yourself NOW vs. wait for cops to show when it may be too late).
That sadly is the case for the location of this video & the tragedy that occurred. The result is defenseless citizens, & fruit loops like this guy STILL able to illegally sneak in a gun & murdering poor Claire. You can't help but wonder had she been more situationally aware and armed she may well still be alive today. đą
Though it by no stretch will replace a firearm, at the very least carry a pro-grade pepper spray like POM. Either way, carrying on your person is much preferable to in a purse. There are plenty of cases where that minimal delay was critical in women's ability to protect themselves or not. Take your safety THIS seriously, you'll feel much safer going about your daily life because you ARE safer!
Just a concerned guy here on this crazy thing called CZcams! đ If this novel of a msg saves even 1 woman's life, it was well worth the trouble to me. đ
There is one thing that will equalize power for women . Carry a firearm. Get trained, get licensed. There is no amount of pepper spray, tasers, and jiu jitsu that will defeat a motivated male attacker that outweighs you by 50-75+ lbs.
Stay safe, God bless.
@@domingochavez2552 lots of bear spray...you think he is going to give you time to get a gun out, take the safety off and aim it? Bear spray can be in your pocket and you can get it in your hand and use it in seconds
It's life-changing having a stalker.. i was told by the police that they couldn't do anything
unless he was practically on me. Very scary experience feeling all alone.. family wasn't
interested in getting involved. I ran and hid several times and he would find me, moved out
of town and he'd find me. He continued harassing me decades later.
Oh my, Iâm so sorry! I wish law enforcement would either make stalking a felony akin to manslaughter/murder, or just allow women to off their stalkers to be able to live đ€
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you're truly free now. It is 100% traumatic to go through. No one talks about the hyper vigilance, the loss of sleep, trust, the PTSD..
What I've come to realize after all these years of hearing the police say that is this: If they keep shrugging their shoulders saying they can't do anything, then it shouldn't be a crime for you to give it right back. Get some intimidating people on your side and stalk back. Make the stalker fear for their life. Set them up for a beatdown so bad or a threat so terrifying that they'll get sense knocked into them. And when they try to blame you to police, the police will "have no evidence."
If he knows your full name,he is able to check online for your latest address or places you have once lived. I suggest you get some data protection DataSeal(if not mistaken -check online for the info) to protect all your info including where is your latest working address. Stay safe.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin 100%!
When someone shows that they have no problem going to jail, that shows they are very sick and dangerous.
This story I remember, R.I.P. beautiful Clare, blessings to your family. I am now in my 73rd year but remember clearly being stalked and threatened when I was about 16. I was terrified and would never have thought of going to the police or even telling my mother. She would have said that it was my fault, ( it most certainly was not,) but that's how it was when I was a young girl. Schools should be teaching young people about this threat...I was ashamed to ask for help and was scared to death. Fortunately the young man in question was arrested and imprisoned on another offence and my family moved away, but I never forgot him. R.I.P. Clare and Sarah Everard and all victims of testosterone.
All the victims of testosterone? Go away with that man hating language boomer.
I am so sorry to hear that your mother would place the blame on you, but I can absolutely relate. It's mind-numbing, really, how many young girls and women have the accusing finger pointed at them when in fact they are the victim.
@@thelasttruegael6517 Sorry but it's the truth.
@@normasouthwood3182 What a sad view of reality you have.
@@thelasttruegael6517 you do realise that the most dangerous place for a woman is at home and the most likely killed in 90% plus of the time by a man she knows or knew.
Pleads guilty. Released on bail. Makes perfect sense that...
How you plead has no bearing on whether you should be bailed.
Thank you Truly Criminal for yet another perfectly put together video! Love your content! Best channel ever! Happy Holidays!
Couldn't have said it better myself !!! Happy Holidays too !! Thanks for respectfully telling us these stories.
This is horrible. Iam from the czech republic and I promise we don't claim him. I have also lived in the UK for 11 years so it's hit me twice as much. Claire deserved the beat life possible and that selfish monster just took it. Heartbreaking. đ I hope the family can heal knowing that they made a huge impact on all the victims of stalking đ
What a truly horrific story and such an important message. Once again this channel blows me away with its depth and important message. Thank you. You truly are the Best
My sincere condolences to her mother.
This is by far one of favorite channels!!!! RIP Clare đą
RIP Clare and peace to your family and friends. Thank you Ladies!
The sheer incompetence of the British police is baffling... They share the blame with this monster
Feckless losers without guns.
He should've been deported after his initial 8 days in prison.
I refuse to engage into any of them
Your channel is the very best crime channel on CZcams and I truly enjoy the way you present all the cases on your channel.
So very tragic! Prayers for her mom. RIP BEAUTIFUL Claire đđđâ€
Your narration voice is perfect at all times but especially bedtime. Love falling asleep to the soothing sounds of your storytelling. Keep shining.
I was stalked 4 years ago by my son, he came to my home to break in and kill me, I rang 999 and waited15 hours for the police to attend, the laws in the uk are atrocious, rip Clare.
Stalked by your son? Wtf đł is this a joke
Was he off his meds or something?
Ur son? Umm wtf
Her son was nuts. He was demanding things like food, being let in the house, and clothing. Typical stalking behavior. Ten year olds are the worst.
Amazing job telling this story. Such respect for this victim. I love and appreciate your contentđ
As the world continually changes so does the way in which we communicate. Timeâs changed but laws never change quickly enough. Weâre now facing unprotected areas as communication becomes more virtually. Online harassment/stalking has a long way to go.
Excellent video, as always from your channel. Such a devastating thing to happen, and what most impressed personally here was how brave and honest the mother of Clare is, accepting an interview on tv about what must be one of the most horrific things that can happen to a mother - the murder of her daughter - plus all the experience of harrassment leading up to it. Amongst her bravery, you also notice that this lady possesses a heart as trusting as her daughter is described to have had - before this incident - but she is now in adjustment mode to how cruel life can be, Wishing her comfort from her pain for this senseless loss.
Thank you, for sharing the useful links. I hope that others can find help and support.
Stalking should be taken as serious as any other major crime, and if they are going to be out on bail or for any other reason, they should be monitored by GPS and as soon as they even try to get close to the victim, lock them up right away.
Stalking & this type of Harassment of women and other vulnerable people in our Communities are the responsibility of the entire community. This CRIME demands these perpetrators are INCARCERATED for at least a period of a minimum of 24 months. These CRIMES must stop. Men would not tolerate it or be forced into tolerating such unbalanced behaviour - So why should women.
It is time ALL POLITICIANS BECAME PROACTIVE AND CHANGED THE LAWS INAPPROPRIATELY TODAY. IT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
The same stalking laws apply to men and women so your comment doesn't make any sense.
Right at the train incident or even sooner I, as a family member, would have seen to it this pathetic little man no longer had yhe luxury of using his arms and legs. I suppose "if I can't have you, no one will", probably would have incurred such a punishment. Poor girl
Unfortunately good people get punished all the time instead of the bastards
A beautiful authentic soul. That was so terrifying for her. He knew he was untouchable. She knew it was pointless to contact police. The worst criminals are the ones in the highest positions of power in the world. RIP Clare. My heart goes out to her mumđąđąâđ»đ
Was he really "untouchable" or "in the highest position of power in the world"? I didn't see anything about him having influence/power of any kind.
I wasn't talking about him, I was talking about the justice system
@@GodsIsrael You said "He knew he was untouchable".
âHer death could not have been foreseenâ
Bull-fucking-shit. Stalking is a VERY serious escalation and should be taken as such by authorities. Why the fuck were the police inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt??? Their job isnât to make excuses for othersâ bad behavior!
You can do everything right as a stalking victim but until society realizes these people cannot safely exist in our society and gives them lengthy or life-long sentences, the stalker will always have the upper hand.
She was absolutely beautiful and a great smile! She looks like such a sweet person, how sad đą
Whooohoooo, Oooh truly criminal, I literally wait for you to upload a new video because no one does it better than you. I also adore your voice and the way you explain things, it's always on point and just the right amount of detail. While watching other CZcamsrs, I become bored litreally. Because you just do it so well. from South Africa with LOVE. â€ïžđżđŠđ
How many times did I hear "BAIL" in this story!!! What was the use of the prevailing laws for harassment and safety if they r going to keep releasing the perpetrator. The only serious action taken is when someone turns up dead.
RIP Claređ she did all she could to get away from that monster.
It's sad that women are afraid they'll get murdered for rejecting someone. And they will continue to be murdered.
I am so grateful for the devastated families who take action for positive future change-despite their grief, for the positive future for others.đ
Another great and thorough job of covering a case......I've seen her story before, and it's just so heartbreaking. I hope all those moms efforts have saved many lives. I'm sure that's the case. Then all these promising women, won't have died in vain.
police need to start taking stalking seriously because they always act surprised or remorseful when the victims ends up dead, like what did you expect?
As always brilliant presentation and research!
When I was 18 I was in a relationship for a very short time, around 5 weeks, the guy was really full on and wanted to be with me 24/7 even when I managed to spend time with anyone other than him he'd call me constantly. It started to scare me but I was also scared to end things. He called one night and asked me to spend the night at his, I told him I had plans with a friend and I'd see him the next day. I never seen him in person again because that night he murdered his mums girlfriend. He bludgeoned her, dismembered her and hid her body. I found out when murder detectives turned up at my parents home to interview me. This sent me down a path of blaming myself, I still do. His mum and sister both took their own lives. He then started writing to me a few times a week, I never replied but the letters were like he'd done nothing wrong. They were declarations of love and plans for 'our future' when I didn't respond they turned vile and he described in detail what he'd done and that it was my fault. I had to goto the police and ask them to step in and stop them. He got 12 year for that brutal murder, then whilst serving that sentence he got another 12 year for attempted murder then another 5 year for disfiguring a female prison officer. He was released in 2022 and within weeks was held under the mental health act where he then tried to kill his therapist. The therapist although critical thankfully pulled through and for this he's now back on remand for another attempted murder. It terrifies me. The probation was meant to notify me upon his release but failed to do this and instead told me once he'd been remanded. I hope this time they never let him out again. I still feel like it's my fault, I have cptsd and severe anxiety and agoraphobia, night terrors which have gotten worse since I found out he'd been released and was back in the area I live. RIP, Sleep easy beautiful ladies â„
Great respect to you and all women who live with his fear.
Another example of law enforcement not taking a stalker seriously. So many red flags leading up to the murder. He should have been dealt with much sooner
Not just law enforcement, her work place managers and colleagues, her house mates etc. How many times did he "somehow" get her new number? Seems like there was a lot of sloppy people around her.
I "Truly" love this channel. Ladies You do an awesome job covering these cases. Been a long time fanâ€Thank you for sharing such great work with us.
I have a daughter 33, this brought tears to me eye's.
I'm so proud of her mom!
Maybe if police used trained profilers to investigate stalkers and do the risk assessment maybe the violent ones could be discovered b4 they offend. One thing is obvious something different needs to be done. Stalking should be a criminal offense its victims are harassed relentlessly, in danger and sometimes killed. Stalking needs to be taken more seriously! It is NOT a victimless crime!
this is a real life horror movie...him watching her in the mirrors and reflections has to be one of the creepiest things i've eve heard
This story is so stressing from the beginning when the two meet...
Best video Iâve watched in a while đ Thank you â€
RIP Angel đŒ
There should have been more done to protect her from this maniac. Very sad her life was taken the way it was đ hopefully her family can heal from this đđ
R.I.P. Young lady So Very Sad What Society Has Become
Sadly itâs still happening in England now that police simply donât take harassment anywhere near seriously enough
Unfortunately it's the same in the us
Too busy inventing stupid new laws to criminalise a passing wolf whistle, or searching the Internet for people causing hurty feelings. Sickening!
I wonder what ethnicities are doing all this harassing? Seems to be a big uptick since the importation of third worlders. Hmmm đ€
She dated him. Thats why.
@@angelapetrie2418 Exactly! Non crime hate crime đ. Someone didn't use their preferred pronouns. Absolutely pathetic đĄ
Hi Kiddo! I want to say Thank You for this show albeit sad but, Very Important!!! The way you presented it was very easy to understand and follow All the Best from Western Australia!!!!!
So sad đđ sorry for your loss.
I remember clearly when this happened and it was so incredibly sad
He threatened to kill her! Boom. If I had anything to do with it Iâd put him in prison for 30 years for that threat
My favorite weekend upload! I always look forward to your videos. â€ïž
Stalking laws and abuse laws needs to be looked at seriously.. this is crazy! You never know who is crazy
I've watched about this case elsewhere. It's one of the hardest ones to learn about because she did the right thing by ending things with him quickly, yet that wasn't enough. While law enforcement should have done more, the question remains: how long do you put a stalker away for? Can a stalker be rehabilitated? It's easy to say the police and the courts should have done more, but it's unrealistic to expect he would have gone to prison for long.
Thatâs the problem with our justice system, we understand the psychology of a stalker and their potential for harm, also the impact on the victim but we donât seem to have the will to employ alternatives to prison, other interventions to protect the target but also compel stalkers to adhere to conditions and therapy. We donât do rehabilitation in The U.K.
We don't have "law enforcement" here in the U.K. It is the duty of our police officers to uphold the law, not to enforce it. A very important distinction.
@@SpeccyMan The House of Commons research briefing published on 04/08/2013 and titled *âThe duty of the police to enforce the lawâ* begs to disagree with you.
These two girls do the best crime documentaries on CZcams by a mile they put more work in than any other f my hey so good they really deserve some more credit and more viewers
Stalking should be taken very seriously by the police. Itâs a serious crime that shouldnât be tolerated in my opinion
I had the same stalker for 31 years (itâs actually longer) she followed me, broke into my house multiple times, would open and edit my mail - then post it back to me, she stole my clothes, told my family horrific lies and then magically appeared in every city I moved to over a 30 year period. She stalked my boyfriends, my family, stole my dog (I dealt with that in my own way)It just went on and on. And on. My very own Single white female.
Police would not help. Finally resolved the issue. Permanently.
Thank god. She wouldâve killed me eventually. I know that.
@@charlalar14 the issue was eventually resolved đ
@@charlalar14 I have cptsd as a result. Life is looking much better now â€ïž
@@charlalar14 we were friends in our teenage years and by time I turned 20 she had become obsessed. She wanted my boyfriends, my life, my clothes. It was very weird. I moved all over the country and changed my name, and she still found me. She some how found out where I was living, working, studying and who I was dating. All this WITHOUT a smart phone and social media. When she reappeared two years after a ten year absence, and started all the stalking behaviour again and involving my young daughter, a different (and successful) tactic was employed to deter her. Iâm 53 now and this has been going on since I was twenty. The fear and stress caused by this nutcase of a woman was unbelievable. Iâm sure she is mentally ill. I hope I never see her again. I have support for the cptsd. And a beautiful family. So Iâm blessed beyond belief â€ïž
Do you mind telling us how did you deal with her eventually?
She won't be able to tell you since it didn't actually happen.
they could literally put an ankle braclet on stalkers. i dont know why police never take serious offences SERIOULSLY
This psychopath is the security...OMG...
What a waste of life... so sad... respect from Australia đ
Thanks Truly Criminal for reminding us all how serious stalking is and how terrifying (or fatal) it can be for victims. Everyone should be very aware of how dangerous it can be.
The "be nice when you break up" method is useless, girls, especially with a certain type of Slavic men!
I'm half Croatian and I went through something similar in the 90s - fortunately, my father isn't just a huge guy but can also bring his point across, so to speak. Some of those creeps only understand another man's threats, that's a sad fact. Why wasn't anyone of Claire's male relatives / friends / co-workers helping her?
The British are useless cunts. Emasculated from 50 years of propaganda. Eastern men seem to still have some honor and balls.
Yep, if I get t any sense of a guy that he thinks I am
His property, Or stalking vibesâŠI am turning into a crazy bitch on purpose: and I make sure he gets some nasty threats/experiences if he doesnât get it!
I doubt you would need to "turn".
As a stalking victim myself I have some advice: The only way to safely save your life is to run away and change your name. Thatâs not going to save the woman after you but it will save you.
Stalking actually disturbs you on so many levels and you can never relax. They is the stalkerâs aim.. to drive you mad. In my experience the only thing to do is move away, abandon your family temporarily and lie low for a year or so so the stalker can refocus on some other poor person. It is too dangerous to tell police and again, in my experience they donât do anything.
Bill collectors aren't stalkers.
What a waste of a life a beautiful young woman murdered by a madman so sorry for her mother RIP Clare. Thank you TC.
RIP Claire đ
Thank you đ