A Chilling Betrayal: The Case Of Tia Sharp
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 15. 10. 2021
- August 2012. The frantic family of Tia Sharp go to their local police station to report her as missing. She has apparently left her home to go shopping and then seemingly vanished; the police are now in a race against time to try and find her.
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The judge saying that despite Tia being sexually assaulted, he wasn't sure the murder was sexually motivated, is simply RIDICULOUS. My goodness, the stupidity!!
I can't understand why the judge would say that.. it's pretty obvious.. he was obsessed with her, filming her, touching her, watching violent CP... đ€ą
And then posing her body, in that manner, after death. & then filming it! How could it not be anything but that?
Yeah thatâs completely stupid he must realise what heâs said looking back on it
No kidding. That's probably why he was always lurking around. It wasnt that he was dating the mother or grandmother, he was grooming the family so he could have this girl.
Lord, the evil.
Sadly, the Law is Blind. However, I was not previously aware that it is also stupid and deaf. The Sexual Motivation Evidence may have been Circumstantial... But is was pretty much clear to everyone in Court that this played a major role in Tia's tragic end. It is damn certain that he didn't kill her to get hold of her Pokémon Collection!
Itâs absolutely absurd to let a 12-year-old girl spend the night unsupervised with your mothersâ boyfriendâ. Itâs wildly inappropriate, and if anything positive can come from this disgusting story- DO NOT LEAVE YOUR DAUGHTERS WITH ANYONES BOYFRIEND!!!
I do agree with you but to Tia, he was grandad, he had been there since she was two⊠but I wouldnât trust anyone with my child
big mistake from their part, but I guess they really trusted him
Thatâs not true. Itâs not inappropriate at all. Most men donât do anything to children. And thereâs no difference in leaving your children unsupervised with someoneâs boyfriend or husband (if they have been with them for a while and itâs known they can be trusted). lol But I do believe we should all be careful with leaving our children alone with any man or woman.
@@michellepaul8514 I think you might want to look up statistically what the most likely scenario for a young girl to be molested is. It is overwhelmingly most probable to happen by non-blood related male that is close to the family. It is absolutely inappropriate for a 12 year old to sleep over alone with a male step grandparent. Iâm really hoping youâre not the mother of young girls, because this is just complete common sense to me. I believe you have a similar mindset as this beautiful young girls mother and grandmother did.
I never did
Ladies, if a guy is routinely in trouble with the law and in n out of prison, he is not going to magically "turn it around." Don't let a monster access to your loved ones.
if you trust this kind of man, you must be trusting almost everybody !
So True. Christine was ONLY thinking of herself.......
No way that I'd leave mine with a man like this! I didn't leave mine with anybody. As a teenager we started letting him stay with some friends but that wasn't a lot. Overly protective? Maybe so, but at least he's safe, alive and warm. Sadly can't say the same for this little one. RIP Tia đ„ș
malkamusik - exactly, you are putting yourself and someone else in danger. never !!
@@trishhill7563 I didnât even date after I got divorced. I was 37 but my 3 kids were way more important to me than any man. Predators look for women with kids to take advantage of. The only person I trusted to watch them was my best friend or my mother and sisters.
The police find a memory card well hidden inside a door frame but they don't find the decomposing body.
Human beings for ya.
The is more then one police officer doing searches
More like England for ya
Yeah, it crossed my mind as well. I think the whole thing is highly fishy. Not even the Keystone Cops were that stupid. They should all be fired without their pensions. They completely fucked up.
They accidently brought the memory card tracking dog instead
The fact that he dated the daughter and then the mother⊠he was desperate to stay in the family to stay close to Tia. Christine is wrong for sleeping with a man who was with your daughterâs ex, thatâs gross. I hope Tiaâs soul is resting in peace.
Totally agree. I think he started dating the grand mom just to stay close to Tia. So sad - poor girl really loved him like a Pop Pop.
Yes, I totally agree with you on this and when juge said it is not primedetating and not sexual I lost it!
I didn't realise that he dated the daughter then the mother,wtf is wrong with people
@@besstube5278 watch the video
@@besstube5278 He apparently dated the mother for a matter of a couple of weeks and they claimed it wasn't sexual and it ended then he started dating her mother.
How could you ever feel comfortable laying with a man who had also been with your daughter? This family is strange.
Very odd , the grandmother and mother didnt have much going for them , lazy parenting .
They are utter trash.
Itâs called fucked up family
I totally agree. Kind of sick.
Not sick in a good way.
You can tell they never finished school
My mom devorced with my dad when she was just 30.. me and my sister would always try to persuade her to date cause we didnt want her to be lonely, we wanted her to have a partner someone to make her happy... she ld always reply to us "what and have a stranger, a man, between my 2 teenage daughters?? No way. Girls you are all that i need to be happy" and that was it she never had a bf, she ld always spent her time between work and her kids and mom thank you for this, now that i am older i understand what u sacrificed to keep us safe and happy. I pray you enjoy yourself at some sunny beautiful beach that you always loved, in heaven.
Very beautiful tribute to your mom đ·..
@@susanwilliams4953 thank you I really appreciate all she did for us...
This. Women who date when they have children are often so irresponsible.
They leave them together unsupervised. They let them stay the night in the same house. They introduce them to the children within weeks.
They gush to the children about how great they are, how happy they are together - then they wonder why the children don't speak up.
They never even have conversations with the children to teach them about consent, and that if this man ever says or does anything you don't like, tell me immediately. Etc.
It is infuriating how preventable it is. But they value d-ck over their children's physical and mental health?
Terrible parents.
Wouldn't you as a family member still search the house from TOP to BOTTOM just out of DESPERATION?!!!!
Tbf he might have said he'd looked.
Nah, lets get drunk and play Playstation
Why would you though? If they thought she was up there it would be because he put her there, and I donât think that thought would have entered their minds. They wouldnât expect in a million years the man whoâs been around her for so long would be responsible for her disappearance, so personally no if I was in their shoes I donât think I would have looked up there. Heâs an evil perverted monster and I sincerely hope his life is a living hell now.
These people don't have the brain to do that
Are people really this dim? Again we have no reason to think they didn't search the house. But one of them was the murderer. Is it really surprising to you that the murderer failed to find the body he wanted to stay hidden?
Why are some mothers so willing to leave their daughters alone with men? I am wary of any man that is eager to be alone with a child family or not
This young woman is an incredible narrator. Timely and polished in her delivery of a very dark event. Well done.
I love her delivery. It's the main aspect of this crime show.
Of course, she's British lol
@@lionesshuntressthere are other british narrators who just donât hit the same. this girl however is easy to listen to, i like the way she talks.
The judge said they couldn't do a full life tariff because it was not 'pre-meditated' or 'sexual in nature'?? Are you kidding me...it totally was on both counts. Disgusting.
I also don't like her mom and grandmother, not only did they pass around Stuart but they knew of his criminal past. Again, disgusting.
Totally agree.
Totally.
Try to look at it with a legal lens, instead of an emotional "what a monster" lens, if you can. It was clearly explained in the video, but I will explain it to you again: It could not be proved that the murder was sexually motivated... Obvs the rape was sexually motivated, but the motivation for murder could well have been "oh shit, now i'm scared she'll tell on me, better make her disappear". There is no way to prove it based on what he is willing to admit, so legally it ca't happen.
The judge is sus. I don't care if it's a reach. I feel this every time a judge is light on very obvious cases like this. Check his MFing hard drive too, I say.
Crazy how the judge âisnât sureâ it was sexually motivated, yet he was sure Stuart HAD sexually assaulted her, and the voyeuristic photos taken⊠does not make sense! What a shame.
I think what they mean is they are sure it was sexual abuse, but the death might have happened as a result of a struggle, not because he planned to kill her because he liked killing. (I still would prefer that he would have a life sentence, but I think it's unlikely he's ever paroled anyways)
Maybe bcs it hot under that wig đ€Łđđ đ€Șđ đ andche can not think clearly đ
Well ,looking at this criminal , I wouldn't trust him to carry my shopping bag.
I would prefer and find it more safely struggling alone with the heavy bag than letting such a creature anywhere near me.
It's beyond my comprehension how smn would trust or like smn like that đ€
He looks dodgy. I hope that he gets prison justice every day
Hopefully heâs denied parole when the time comes.
A young girl goes missing and you don't search her house top to bottom? Smh. Mother and grandmother's actions are shameful as well, dating the same crappy guy one after the other, yuck.
They are vile
Humans being humansâŠwelcome to the dark side of lifeâŠ.
Not exactly the Waltons, I agree, but please let's remember that they are victims too. They also have to live with such deep and horrible regret every day for the rest of their lives.
Im more disgusted by the self righteous commenters lining up to gang up on this poor mum and grandmother.
The mother dated Sturat for less than a week. Hardly a deep romantic relationship.
@@starsparklemonkey3390 Should be equally disgusted at the lack of accountability you want the people responsible for this poor girl's death to have. I suppose you want negligent parents who put their kids in harms way to just get away with it huh?
One of the saddest and most infuriating cases I have ever heard about. So many people failed this girl, and now the world is less without her. She deserved so much better
I don't think the world is less without her. She wasn't a future Einstein.
@@azazello1784 human life is inherently valuable and the way we affect our personal sphere of relationships is unique and unparalleled
@@angellane1848 This is a fairy tale thinking. By your beliefs it means killer's life is also inherently valuable.
â@@azazello1784 That has got to be the most pointless and cold-hearted comment I have read. How do *YOU* know she wouldn't become successful and go on to have great achievements? She never got the chance, it was cruelly taken away from her! Do you enjoy getting your kicks out of making asinine comments such as this?
@@SteelValkyrie202 Statistically there is a very small chance she would be someone great. I am just being objective. People tend to sugar coat things and act morally superior.
It always sickens me to see the killer helping volunteers trying to find the "missing person", attending vigils and participating in interviews. Instilling hope into all those people knowing there is none to be had. My God the grandmother must have been sick to her stomach knowing the man she loved and was comforting her killed her grand baby. He is absolutely a piece of shit.
Yeah the poor grandmother. She must have had no idea that her weasel-looking boyfriend who used to shag her daughter was a wrong-un.
A piece of shit that should be used for medical research.
This reminds me of that bus driver (Darren vickers )who killed the little boy (Jamie)but was with the family during interviews and even moved in with them - remember that one guys???
yeah another real piece of garbage that one
Yes, in fact, I thought this was a repeat at first - and it actually might be, though I think I'd seen this story on another crime channel. (watching waaay too many these days đ)
Nothing like it. This guy had been in Tias families life for ten years prior to the murder. The first the family of Jamie heard of Darren Vickers was after the boy had sent missing.
@@Luna.3.3.3 lol I watch too many true crime and youtube videos EVERY day! (I'm disabled and can't work, so reading and YT keeps me sane, despite watching such creepy stories)
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I don't feel so weird, lol. I watch a lot of paranormal stuff too (I know a lot of ppl think it's bs, but I don't care)
She should have never been left alone with this monster, and whichever neighbors lied they need looking into.
KAtie Mary :Absolutely.
You're right. Why would that neighbor lie for him unless he had something to gain from it?
Easy to say in hindsight. Most people don't intentionally leave their child with monsters. Monsters are great at hiding.
@@Realauntmememaybe he knew him and was convinced that he was a good guy, some people are gullible like that. After the prison sentence im sure he won't be in the future
Tia was failed by ALL adults in her life
This was such a horrific sad case. How some people can sleep at night after committing such a crime is beyond me. RIP Tia. From South Africa
Even worse to sleep in the house with the corpse of the child that you murdered wrapped up in the attic.
As someone that does similiar content, I ask myself that all the time. Like, how can you just act normal after killing or maiming someone? I did a video about a girl that got her arms chopped off after hitchhiking and the due acted like he did nothing wrong. It's just mind boggling.
@@pampennyworth Yes I was about to type that.
Those who commit such heinous crimes are no humans anymore.....They lost whatever humanity they once had...
Yes.
So the fact that he MURDERED HER wasnât first and foremost âŠenough for life??????? WowâŠ.horrible judicial systemâŠrip Tia đđđ» condolences to her mom dad and family so tragicâŠ.
The British "justice" system is a total joke, as bad as Australia's and Canada's.
Very true. this judge is a joke.
I was just thinking the same thing. Molesting and murdering a child isn't enough, her death has to sexual too? Also, what about the photos they found? WTF.
@@Realauntmeme just because he never got life. Doesn't mean they will let him out.
It's a minimum sentence he recieved. It's unlikely he will ever be let out.
It's a minimum sentence. It's unlikely he'll never get out.
The fact that Tia fully trusted and loved Stewart is something that makes this case so much worse for me, probably because she didnt have a care in the world when she was with her family and Stewart, she felt safe and secure and let her guard down, I cant even begin to imagine the way she must have felt and the fear she must have had, the confusion and disbelief at what was happening, the poor girl, I hope she didnt have to suffer so bad. This man is horrendous and if he can do this to someone so close to him, he is fully capable of doing horrible things to anyone else, especially children, he never need get out, alive at least
Everyone failed her and basically set her up to become a target of this evil man. Her mother, grandmother and even her father that couldnât be bothered to be a father to her.
100% agree.
I agree
From what I've read, Tia's biological father was an active part in her life until there was a falling out between him and Natalie, which led to him being denied access to her. This is likely why she clung to Hazell as a father figure.
â@lucyverse4908 no good father can be "denied access" to their kids. If they had a custody agreement, she would've been arrested for violating it. He didn't care enough to stay in his daughter's life - that's it.
Why would a mother date her daughters ex? That's just sick. Why would anyone date a man with all these charges & allow him to be around this little girl? This was a mess before it started! I ain't leaving mine with anybody much less a criminal! How can people be so blind & just stupid?!đđđ
I know, I can't get my head around that one either.
Another case where a lovely child with their whole future ahead of them, is surrounded by scumheads.
Benighted and delusional, the lot of them.
I know it's sick, but it's not unheard of. Some people just don't have one foot in reality when it comes to the darker side of life, I'm afraid.
Agree, seems like a retardation, no one had any judgement in this case.
I'm a single mom, and cases like this break my heart. He groomed her into making her trust that creep, and got the opportunity to get her when he had the chance, disgusting.
Just found out my mother's new husband was inappropriate with my daughter as a young teen. She's in her thirties noe and could just now tell me. Please mothers, don't trust your kid with your moms new guy.
Hope healing begins for both of you. XOXO
Hope you guys get the support you need đ§Ą
How awful for you all. x
Wow this I'd awful news. I hope she find peace somehow
I wonder if Stuart smelled the body when he woke up, and thats why he left so early bc he knew she was about to be found bc of the smell. There was no way he would have been able to go to the attic and bring her body out and go hide it,so he hauled ass
That was my first thought, as well.
Same here
My first thought too.
Agreed. And if the cops had done a thorough search in the first place, they'd not have been at risk of nearly losing him.
Definitely!
"she set off to her grandmothers house" ugh this is like a tragic real life little red riding hood... Stuart is a wolf in sheeps clothing... and its also creepy that those episodes from scooby do the monster or ghost was always someone they knew once the mask is pulled off... theres these cautionary messages in almost every fairytale, cartoon, disney movie and urban legends. In real life most of the time it really is someone u know
here the wolf is actually grandma's boyfriend !
Thatâs why you donât just bring anyone and everyone one to your family
@@tarantellalarouge7632 yeah its the more realistic version of it... it explains why he was sleeping in grandmas bed.. no one really knows the origin of these stories..it makes u wonder if these were true stories but obviously they'd change it to actual monsters in the story...
Not all humans are monsters but all monsters are humans.
@@Fckyourfeelingsboo not all humans are monsters but all monsters are humans ???
My daughter is 15 and I have never let her stay anywhere. I always allow them to stay over only. She doesn't understand why. I have watched True crime channels for the last 10 years and I refuse to allow her to stay anywhere. I trust Noone. There are sick evil people in this world. Trust Noone.
You're a good mumma for protecting your daughter. One day, she will understand and will be greatful. Keep up the great work mum! â€
Sounds like a safe and smart compromise to me.
My mother never let me sleep over anywhere until I was like 11, and this friend had no brothers.
This comment is almost a year old, but your daughter is definitely old enough to be told why you do not permit sleepovers.
The risk is too high, because even kids assault other kids. Like 11 year olds r4ping 7 years olds and below.
Along with this horrendous crime, isn't anyone else grossed out that he 'had a fling with Natalie' before he hooked up with the grandma?? Ugh! disgusting! Borderline incestuous
It's not my cup of tea. But it's clearly nothing like incest.
Its uncomfortable for sure and I was searching for this comment
I know I replayed that. Gross.
@@britth5333 Lol. Ya, exactly. At first I thought 'who is Hazel'? đ
Grosser things happen. My mom divorced my dad and got with his dad, my grandpa. And we all moved into his housd
anyone gonna comment on the fact that it took 4 searches of the house to find Tias' body.....That is truly a failure of epic proportions. As a former cop, the smell of a dead body is something you will never forget, truly. The fact that that house was searched multiple times...what a failure.
Even the judge failed Tia, along with her mother and grandmother. Please parents, read about the dangers of having your partner around your children. Don't take that chance.
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know after talking to that guy for five seconds, that you should never leave your child alone with him.
I will never understand how anyone could be attracted to a child. đ€ź đĄ
His interview makes me sick. Offering comfort, showing up to vigils, all the while knowing âdeep down in his heartâ that she didnât go to the store but was dead in the house by his hands is just despicable. He should be in prison for the rest of his life
How could the police search the house so many times without finding the body?
Our police have a requirement to have single digit IQ.
@@bushmonster1702 đ€Ł
Too much effort to bother checking the attic I guess so they were like "fuck it"
This is one of the biggest betrayal of trust I've ever come across in true crime cases. Tia wanted to bring him instead of her friends to the outing. Way to destroy the implicit trust and love of a sweet young girl. đ€Ź
What outing? You generally have to have an adult shopping to buy stuff
â@@chelleyd4020 You could be given pocket money to buy things for yourself.
Only a true narcissist calls a tv station knowing he is guilty to prove heâs innocent.
Beyond revolting.
exactly and at the same time it was obvious during that ITV interview that Hazel was the culprit
Had some Diane Downs vibes
A really stupid narcissist
I know she didn't go shoe shopping, but the fact people think it's fine for a 12 year old to go shopping alone is crazy! I wasn't allowed anywhere alone at even 14
I was a free spirit after the age of 10 but I knew all about stranger danger. A guy tried to grab me when I was eight and I wouldnât let them
Hmmm.. it it a difficult one. But on balance, I would let my child do it. She was certainly playing out and moving around our village at that age and she was travelling to school by bus every day so...
That sounds like a prison
@@pusscat1147 not at all, I was safe and not murdered
No, the US is crazy. Millions of people go shopping alone from a much younger age than 12 and nothing ever happens other than them learning how to live their lives. This case actually proves this: most crimes against kids happen inside families.
I knew families like this growing up. Bringing in people who are creepy & several family members sleeping with same people. Kids poorly taken care of or left to their own defenses and put in the care of dangerous people. Frankly, the adults all seemed stupid & almost animalistic in a way. They werenât mean to people or doing obvious crimes. They were just concerned with playing/drinking & had sex with random people. Then theyâre shocked when something bad happened. House burned down w/one bc they had a bonfire right next to the house. Animals all died inside and child was so badly burned she was deformed.
Another women dated a known pedophile. Left her daughter in his care but was shocked when it turned out he was abusing the little girl.
There are people who are adults but something isnât right in their mental capacity/ awareness. Sadly, they often have kids and the cycle continues with each generation.
Truly horrific, I just wished that these types of women WOULD NOT have children, it's cruel and the sad cycle of abuse continues, đđpoor little Angels meeting these monsters. đą
Disgusting. This poor girl desperately needed a father figure and by all accounts loved Stuart. He tricked everyone
Bad man. And another thing Iâve watched about five of Tia Sharpe docs and Iâve come to the conclusion the Nan needs a damn good lesson in parenting and probably her mother before her. Tia never stood a chance.
I had no idea they only found Tia on their THIRD time of searching Hazels house! Oh my god that is inexcusable. Donât you think? Oh my god it was the FOURTH . Iâve no words
@Ally Apparently in the blueprints of that homes loft area there was a small alcove. No other homes had it and you had to know it was there to find it. No excuse though as I'd read a cadaver dog alerted immediately to the loft hatch, but the dog was a German shepherd and too awkward to lift up to access the area. So they relied on dumb a$$ Police robots to do the job. "Nah mate, dogs full of đ© let's go, now't up 'ere". Animals have no agenda to lie, and that was on DAY ONE!!! đ đ đ
Everything you have said is spot on! And I thought the exact same thing! đđđđ
A dead body decomposing smells like nothing else you will you ever smell....I am a former homicide cop (Canadian) there is no way that smell would elude any searches. The fact that it did suggests that the cops failed
@@redrumtruecrime awful absolutely awful
mate x
@@victoriacopus2931 dreadful wasnât it absolutely horrible x
The fact that he lied on the interview and pretending to be in search for the missing girl, he should be given a maximum sentence đđđ
Totally agree he is a evil scumbag hope he rots in hell rip beautiful angel â€ïžđč
You've only got to look at him and you know hes bad news. Hes absolutely vile - abhorrent. Cannot understand how the grandmother ended up going out with her daughters ex and how they let tia ang around him so much alone, seems he must have been able to charm them very convincingly - the poor family have to live with their regrets. So sad :(
You can't fix stupid
regrets.....pure bull shit.....particularly christine...she must be busy looking for new partner (monster).
Itâs kinda terrible that she was dead in the attic while all those police officers and news reporters went in and out of that house
"Kinda terrible"? That's an understatement!
Apparently one of the police dogs tried to go upstairs but the cops were like, "eh, it'd a pain to go in and outta there with the dog"
This channel is so underrated. Commenting for the algorithm.
Glad I caught it too...dang algros
I'm in the states most of these stories are from the UK but I love it one of my go to true crime channels
all her cases should be on the UK. the UK for centuries has been riddled with cases
How disturbing.. And heartbreaking.. R.I.P little one đđïž
You have easily become one of my favorite channels...dont change a thing! The music is incredible, your narration, and overall presentation is stellar. thank you! also...did i mention the music is incredible?!?!!!!!!
Agree đŻ%. It's somber, haunting, but not foreboding. Love channels like Disturban for example, but his music is unsettling and distracting imo. The cases are already horrific, they really don't need the accentuation. The presentation and victim-centric style is why they'll remain in my Top True Crime channels. As good as any show on ID, A&E, etc. Better than many, really. âđđ»
Really?? Hahaha... I just commented above about the horrible music! THE MUSIC IS IRRITATING AND ADDS NOTHING
@@marksc111 What, Truly Criminal's? If so, đ€Ł but you do you I guess. Never read a single comment voicing such til now, and it's *so* quiet in comparison to the narration, dunno how it could bother you. Ah well, if it does, it does. There's always one I guess.
I think the presentation is solid too. She doesn't linger overmuch on footage with no dialogue, there's no unnecessary video of herself talking, there's no redundant talking, there are just facts and non-distracting soundtrack. That's all that's needed.
I remember this. I was 14 at the time and I felt so horrible for her, I remember keeping up with it as much as I could, desperately hoping that they'd find her. When they announced that she was murdered, I think that was one of the moments of my teenage years that taught me that this world contains cruel, horrible people. This poor girl was robbed of her future, RIP Tia.
Imagine your mother dating your ex boyfriend, who ends up murdering your daughter. It's chilling that he gave a calm interview, while Tia's dead body was in the home. RIP
Tiaâs mum and gran were also found guilty of assault and racially aggravated harassment in 2016. I really feel sorry for Tia. She didnât deserve these people she called âfamilyâ.
@@MentokTheMindTaker really? so weird & disgusting
Western lifestyle so sick dating everyone đ€Š
@@heubertkhanmichael5239 What was that about?
@@wataki2 Tia's mother, Natalie, was found guilty of physically assaulting and making racist remarks towards a Kosovo native at a parking lot. The grandmother Christine laughed as Natalie did that. They called out the woman for parking at a wrong spot which is okay, but the racism and physical assault was uncalled for. I think their defense even used trauma from Tia's murder as an excuse for the behaviour.
Such nasty women bringing vile pieces of trash around their children! This is so reprehensible and sick. The mom and grandma needs to be charged with neglect and abuse too!
The fact he was shagging the mother and then moved onto the grandmother is enough for me, why wouldn't he move on to poor Tia. RIP â€ïž
--AMEN! Letâs not leave out good ol dad who had disappeared from Tiaâs life and comes out only for the cameras--thatâs disgusting too. That poor kid had no protection from the so-called grownups around her.
@@irishcoffeetruecrime Iâm sure the only reason he was with the both of them was to be near Tia
All the adults in this girls family were beyond messed up..... very sad.
If they knew how he was to that kid I agree but you cannot tell people to not fall in love and marry other people, sometimes that's the best thing that happens in that childs life and now they have someone to call father.
RIP Tia. Shocking case. 38 years in prison, it seems not enough. I hope he never sees the light of day again.
The unfit judge in Tia`s trial judge has picked the wrong job. How the hell can he look at himself in the mirror after such a ridiculous sentence? NO justice has been done here.
Male judges are sexual perverts themselves.
Agreed but part of the blame lies with politicians who set these laws and give judges discretion
Absolutely. It`S all connected and needs to be modernized and done over, new laws need to be figured out to finally do justice to the victims! @@adamwelch6217
I remember Tia's case so vividly. The whole country was just hoping and praying she would be found safe. The fact the police had searched the house four times and found nothing was absolutely incomprehensible. This murder was premeditated and sexually motivated, how the judge thought any different is utterly ridiculous. Hazel is an absolute monster and needs to rot for the rest of his life. RIP Tia â€ïžâ€ïž
Stuart had his eye on Tia and pursued her, first dating her mom then her grandmom. Grooms her and is accepted as a trusted grandpa. Until . .đĄ
I just realized he is dating Tia's mom tho, not only her grandma wth with their family tho
He was traversing the family tree in the wrong direction really.
@emde Yup đĄ Absolutely disgusting
eb. đ Both her mom and grand mom saw nothing wrong with this man despite his low IQ and criminal record. They brought the killer home. The poor kid had no chance.
emde - i actually thought i heard it wrong, now that you said it, so am sure i heard that right.
I really don't understand what he thought would happen. Hiding her body in her grandmothers house...did he really think they'd just forget about her that she'd be there for a long time until he could dispose of her? He is the ultimate evil. I hope hes being treated just in prison.
I suspect he didn't plan it and only killed her when she reacted badly to being touched up. Plus given he's a piss/smack-head, it's quite possible he can't drive so couldn't easily dump the body.
He probably planned to move her somewhere else but never figured out when or how. Also, heâs not the sharpest knife in the drawer, to say the least. Not a criminal mastermind.
Exactly my question!! HOW did he think he'd get away with it once the body started to smell?! May he get what he deserves in prison!!
When i heard the grandmother had a boyfriend i new straight away he was going to be trouble. Women need to be more aware. God Bless. đđ
The crime deserved a whole life tariff. Hazel's voyeurism and creeping into her room to "watch" her, no doubt had sexual gratification for him, or he wouldn't do it. He was waiting for the opportunity to come and when it did he took it. He had a total disregard for Tia's life and sexually objectified her, taking post mortem posed photos to fantasise over what he did. Everything points to a sexual deviant motive and solely to act out his twisted desires. Many sexual offenders who murder their victims are often viewers of violent p0rn0graphy, killing by strangulation, a slow death where the offender will "toy" with letting the victim breathe, then crushing their windpipe again, giving the offender the ultimate power over their victim. If Tia's cause of death could've been proven and DNA backed up sexual motivation, I'm sure the judge would've ordered a whole life tariff. However those memory cards provide evidence of that and Hazel would've committed further crimes of this nature had he not been arrested (as Pitchfork will now he's been paroled in his 60s, his crimes were proven to be sexually motivated, he was given a Whole life tariff, but because he did music manuscript conversion into braille his sentence was appealed and lowered) This justice system is a disgrace. The courts protect sex offenders, every psychologist says they CANNOT be rehabilitated and if paroled "young enough" they WILL REOFFEND. Its disgusting and an embarrassment to every English citizen
Ever considered paragraphs? That's unreadable. A quick scan suggests you're over committed to the details of sexual crimes and speculating wildly about this.
A full life tariff would have been applied if the judge was sure beyond reasonable doubt that the victim was killed purely for sexual satisfaction as opposed to silencing her. Whether you or I agree with that or not is besides the point. It is how a sentence is formulated under the law.
Besides that the idea that he'll ever be released is slim to non-existent. He'll die in prison.
When he said âweâre stuck in this houseâ it made me shiver when so was she. đ
How do people let anyone into their homes and their lives?...I sat around 25 percent humanity is dysfunctional and half of that 25% are dangerous.Be careful who you let in your home.
amen
First of all I donât understand how the parents could look at that guy thatâs supposed to be a grandad and trust him , I wouldnât even let any child be around him he looks high af , the parents shouldâve been abit more aware
the family was fucked up...a bunch of inbreds. Tia had no chance
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Iâll never forget this, I always remember watching him on TV talking about Tia and I thought something is up with this bloke. The audacity of this bastard going on TV appealing for Tia to come home after what he did to her!. Absolutely sickening, and that bloody judge saying he doesnât think her murder was sexually motivated even though she was sexually assaulted. He done something to her and Tia was going to tell on him so he murdered her, heâs a despicable excuse for a human!. RIP Tia đđđ»đĄđ
@@Aurora-do2rv - The distinction is about whether he murdered her for sexual pleasure or not. The judge couldn't honestly answer that as it's not clear if that was the motive or whether he murdered her because his sexual advances were rebuffed and he wanted to avoid being held accountable for his actions.
Besides that a 38 year prison sentence at his age, added to the fact that he's unlikely to be released after just serving that 38 year tariff, means that he will very likely die in prison.
@@simonw1313 I donât disagree with you, but the fact he took pictures and âposedâ her body post-mortem shows how dangerous he is, he was going to do what he wanted to her whether she was dead or alive. That alone should be proof enough for a full life term in the eyes of the law.
@@Aurora-do2rv - I don't disagree with you either - I think when it comes to murders of children when sex is involved it should be a full life tariff. But currently that's not how the law sees it and that distinction is made.
PS- I meant to reply to butterfly wings with the earlier post.
Seen a couple, Stephen McDaniel for instance, though he was fairly obvious, that I felt the same about. It's horrible even as a viewer, so I know it's agonizing for those directly involved in the investigation and search.
@@Sick_Boy I know how you mean, you look at said person and think these things and you feel âguiltyâ for it, because the person goes out their way to help look for âmissing personâ, then it comes out they done it. Itâs a catch 22 you feel bad thinking such things but then you have the relief that your gut was correct all along. But that does NOT compare to what the the poor family feel, think, understand etc, that they had a wolf in sheeps clothing hiding among them!.
I've heard this devastating case many times but it just gets worse with every new video...
So no one thought it was odd as to why he removed the bathroom door? No questions were raised about that? Everyone just used the bathroom, shit, showered, & shaved with no concern...đ€ŠđŒââïž
Poor Tia & what she unknowingly endured right up until her death. He's an actual POS!
Edit: the judge couldn't give a true life sentence for this because he didn't know if her death was sexually motivated? Weren't the pictures enough, the posing of her body, the actual SA itself? I am flabbergasted by that outcome. Wow!
No matter how many times iv seen this story on tv and YT it still haunts me. What he done to poor Tia after he killed her is nothing short of demonic.
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How can I not be sure the murder was sexually motivated, when he posed her dead body sexually and took a photograph??? And why was this man left alone with this young girl??? Heâs not family he has slept with the mother and the daughter! Now that he wants to granddaughter to? Rest in peace, this poor victim.
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That's why your mother should always be your mother and not your "friend".
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NEVER EVER leave your children with someone else !! this world is crazy and therefore crazy people out there. Rest in peace Tia.
Such a fallen world we live in. Such evil, demonic people that roam among us. If there is any justice, he will be properly dealt with when he meets his maker.
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Same on all counts!!
With a family like that she had no chance. Some people shouldnât have kids.
Shame on those who made "human error" in checking the grandmothers house not just once, but thrice! This investigation is a disappointment, especially to Tia. What a letdown
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The mother was negligent to allow her young daughter to sleep over with only her mother's boyfriend. I feel she should have been reprimanded if not punished by the court. Hope this is a lesson for mothers everywhere... Keep your children with you !
Punished for what? People aren't usually murderers or pedophiles. đ€Šđ»ââïž
Fucking hell people love blaming mothers for things. Don't you think the guilt is enough? She made a mistake, but she didn't do anything worth being reprimanded over. Far out.
Yes punish the murdered child's mother, that'll show her! đ
I knew the mum and Tia and her family he is the scumbag who took her away from them he should never get out of prison I hope he rots in hell ,rip beautiful angel x â€ïž
Very sad and upsetting case to say the least, but narrated so well. You do a great job of telling people's stories with such depth and emotion, whilst always staying respectful to both the victims and their families. Lifetime subscriber here! Keep up the amazing work â€
My question is, why do they bother to bring in dogs if none are cadaver dogs? Even the dogs didnât pick up her scentâŠ. OkâŠhe would have carried he up to the lift. But surely, one cadaver dog, just to be safe. But, tbh, I can also understand how the human in a police officer would not believe a she could be in her loving familyâs home. RIP Tia.
Once you said the boyfriend secured an tv interview to clear his name (already suspecting him), my jaw dropped. What a narcissist!
Women stop letting your boyfriends watch your little girls. I donât know how many stories cause I have lost count of boyfriends killing their girlfriends kids, grandkids or sexually abusing them.. I donât care how good they get along or how much your daughter may like him itâs not a good idea. Especially she just met the guy and at a pub of all places. First red flag he moves in with her. He is a grown man why does he not have a place of his own!! Looks like a using bum from the get go I would think. Then not minding and allowing a 12 year old little girl to spend time with him even alone!! Iâm sorry as a mother there would be no way in hell that would happen . Wtf were these people thinking? A decent guy wouldnât even feel comfortable doing that and would say so as well.. Those two things be enough for me to say adios !! The cops in this story baffle me the most.. They checked the home 4 times with dogs even ,read again ,4 times before they found her body in the attic đź..Is the police force ran by Barney Fife?? Why in the hell wasnât the attic checked the first damn time? Iâd be embarrassed to be called a law officer after that.. Poor judgment on parents horribly ran police Dept ohh and donât even get me started on that pos judge!poor child never stood a chance!! May she R.I.P.
I usually don't do this, but don't leave your kids with boyfriends regardless of if they're boys or girls.
Heâs horrible
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@@sammygirl6910 I agree 100%. The only people I allowed to babysit my boys were my mom and my sisters. Thatâs it. I didnât trust anyone else.
Sad that he didnât want granny he wanted the child
The grandmother also has to shoulder some of the blame. Her not caring about his past has led to him
Has led to him what...?
Having a past doesnât necessarily mean your a bad person or a child m0le$ter or murderer.
@@michellepaul8514 ..it is actually quite meaningful because it shows patterns, and patterns of behavior always repeat themselves.
@@michellepaul8514 It DOES matter because past is prologue. Aside from his crimes and bigotry showing his immorality, the fact that sexu@l abuse was in his past is a huge red flag. Predators create new predators, and they're NEVER, EVER cured. There is literally no cure. So, yes, the past always matters. It establishes a person's character. Try getting a job by telling the boss that not having the required degree or experience doesn't matter, see how it goes.
I was saving this for the evening tonight but I couldn't wait.
Compelling viewing again.
I'm must say i wasn't surprised at other you tube channels using your content to further their own ambitions. Narration and content as always exceptional. Go girls.
Grandmothers -- DONâT date your daughterâs ex-boyfriends! Apparently this guy saw this family as a target.
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When people keep saying "do you know what I mean, do you know what I mean" I'm always a but suspect... it's like they are trying to convince you of something that you know is not true
I think it just means they're working class.
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Not to blame the mom but if my mother isnât there Iâm not sending my daughter over with just her and a grown man. Iâm sooooo paranoid then I hear stories like this and understand why. Rest well baby girlđąđđŸ
It was the picture of her broken glasses that got to me the most. I don't know why.
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Such an horrific case.. such a well done video once again.. Fly high beautiful Tia
Iâm sorry but I blame her family for a lot , mainly for giving. Stuart hazel access to a child
Absolutely. The family has failed Tia, this could have been prevented. Stuart on the other hand surely would have found another victim, these monsters will never change. What a POS, DP is the only appropriate sentence.
Facts.
I remember this, it was all over British news, and the entire nation was hoping against hope she had ran away and was safe. And thoroughly sickened at the tragic outcome. Hazel had been with Tia's mum before getting with her gran. All because he had got obsessed with Tia. And to walk ahead of the family when a search party was looking for her, holding a candle,knowing exactly where she was and what he had done to her. Why Police missed finding her several times in house searches at her gran is unfathomable. Hot summer, how did they not notice a smell? Put a monster like this into a room full of mothers and let them rip him apart. Sickening.
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Ladies please put your kids safety first over any guy no matter how innocent he looks trust Noone with your children. If you can't control yourself take em to a motel but not your home
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What a absolute MONSTER !! Just sickening to do to anyone but especially to a child that called you and thought of you as her grand father !! Wow .. Rip Tia đ
Three things struck me about this tragic story at the time:
Her mother & grandmother were not astute or perceptive in the least to have allowed her to spend time unsupervised with this virtual stranger. (Or perhaps they were just lax & unconcerned.)
Her murderer - who had clearly been grooming her for some time - had zero human feeling or emotion. His on camera lies were scarily effortless.
The police made an utter, utter fuck up of their 'search'. More than once.
sadly you kind of expect the police to be useless, thousands of people reporting all sorts of problems yet nothing and no care, no reports and nothing then become surprised when the situation escalates. the amount of murder cases you can watch where you want to scream at police because they do jack shit, reports of abuse yet dont look into them, well known offenders. to have any trust in police must be a privilege because for many sadly, it's not surprising when the police continue to fail time after time when so many individuals have no hope with police. the videos were scary because usually when the murderer makes an appeal they usually say the wrong thing and slip up but he was so good if he wasnt the murderer i honestly think it sounded normal... thats the sick part
@@amemelia There are good & bad in all professions. We tend, as a populace, to hold the police to a higher standard (&, to an extent, they should be) but all law enforcement officials are human & by their very nature humans are flawed. In this case, however, having searched & found nothing *multiple* times, I think those officers were inept, utterly, utterly inept.
He had been in her life from the age of 2 so by the time she was 12 he was hardly a virtual stranger now was he?.
add to that, a ridiculous judge!!
Ten year is hardly a stranger is it! đ
I can't help but wonder what Tia would have done with her life. She sounded strong and smart, an old soul. These monsters take lives for fear of getting caught, and they get caught in the end anyway. It's such a tragic waste. I call BS on his sentence, it should've been life. This was an open and shut case. My love goes out to her family. đ
Yeah, that's the frustrating thing. It never works, though they always hang on to that twisted, false hope. Not to mention the charges would be so much more lenient. Tragic indeed. đ
This is par for the course in Europe from what Iâve seen
Any teenager who supposedly left home without phone has not left...I got that in first five mins....rip