"Chelsea got it WRONG!" 😬 Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy CLASH over Mount joining Manchester United 🔥
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- Simon Jordan, Danny Murphy and Sam Matterface debate whether or not Chelsea made the right decision selling Mason Mount to Manchester United.
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Im so confused. Watched every Chelsea game with Mason plying, and saw he was a good player, but he’s being hyped up to incredibly ludicrous levels
Like so many young English players over the last several years. They have a few good games and are going to be the next Gazza
Lingard
Ali
Barkley
Wilshire
I could go on and on
He's English, under 25, Premier League and Champions League proven. Tbh I don't think anyone's claiming he's a world-beater.
He is not even getting enough hype
Not sure where you're hearing this but I'm hearing the opposite.
@@kesseonojedje5505 There is a bit too much hype around him tbh. He's a good player, but he's not a world-beater.
Danny: "Hudson-adoi is a super talent"
Everyone with sense: Then why hasnt he achieved anything of note for the last several years
Couldn't even break into the Bayer Leverkusen team last season. Danny Murphy is a prize plum at times.
Perhaps it’s because of his attitude and he as lost the hunger
We could of sold him for 50 million to Bayern Munich like 2 seasons ago and rejected it now he’s worth about 10 million lol
@@chokemeister8115 sorry bro I don’t recognise your name . Please share with us all which clubs you’ve played for and which international country have you represented.
@@ticklemetrout9625 I think it's absolutely his attitude which is a shame cuz the guy had real talent. A common story in the industry unfortunately
Jez! Are they talking about Mount or Messi here. I'm a Chelsea fan and have gotten over it. Damn it!
The transfer only happened today obviously they’re gonna talk about it
You’re clearly not over it since it’s winding you up 😂
@@FearTheIndoorHorseRancherdefinitely shed a tear losing his home grown hero go to a better club performing better
Im a UTD fan & i dont see the hype too. But he was a 1st priority signing of Ten Hag & in my baldy i trust. I wanna see Mount cook in red next season.
'Gotten' - sound like a yank
@@DarrenMac-yk2gdOf recent. But last 10 years what have United done? F all.
Matterface needs to realise people don’t tune in to listen to him
Ignorant chap
Like that annoying wasp interupting a nice picnic
Sam twatterface loves himself
I actually thought these men were talking about KDB only to realize it's Mount. Talking like he's an elite.
Like how we lost Sturridge, Lukaku,Salah,KDB...you never know.
Great signing kid .
@@jasonobrien8919 That's how low standard has become. Back in the day, the term "great signing" was used for players of generational quality and elite standard, which Mount isn't. Tragic!
@@thefacelessquestion3333 Lukaku? I take it you're trolling! Sturridge? Even Klopp didn't rate him? And how many good seasons did he have at Liverpool?
Are you seriously putting Mount in same category as Salah and KDB? I know he's a pretty white British lad, but spare me that obsession. You lot didn't obsessed over Mata like this, and Mount isn't even half the player Mata was.
Watch stage of grief are you on? Denial?
simon jordan saying that no one knows what happened between them and then afterwards say that the club offered a contract, they agreed and then a silly agent came and said no. he just giving hate to mount father. in his eye it never is the owners fault
They are talking about mount like he’s Messi or maradonna ffs he’s a great signing for United but bloody hell he won’t change them into winners
Ten Hag likes team goals
How are they acting like he's Messi? The general public or acting like he's the opposite
@@randymarsh2901 60m for a player that is on a final year contract. I still think that 60m would have been better spent buying a world class striker. This team is so out of depth in the striker area, last season it was the defence that bailed us out not the offense. The midfield is the least of the problems. Now with FPP, you have 60m less to spend on a goalkeeper and a world class striker. If you are just getting a striker that scores 20 goals, you won't improve from 3rd. You need someone that is going to scoring 30 goals and that 60m is the difference.
As a CFC supporter, Mount is an absolute club success story. From the academy to 60m transfer fee, everyone wins...I wish him all the best and grateful for all he contributed to the CL title.
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60 million for player with 12 months left on his contract. Chelsea must be laughing there heads off. 😂
Jasus PSG are going to be howling with laughter when they offload Mbappe this summer
@@MrPlenty1how’s mbappe relevant to this?
Only bruno covered more ground that Ericsson last season on average yet he has no legs, media again looking at his age and just saying he can't run.
bruno the robot
Love how Simon only talks about the past when I fits his narrative but when someone else trys it he said the oast doesn't matter.
Yep or his experience as an owner is the only experience there is and it couldnt be different. This is coming from a guy that tries to hate on united fans for bitching about the worst owners in any sport ever. (Glazers)
@@philipjoyce8817they're not the worse owners in any sport by a long way, the bengal owner was far worse, as was dan snyder and the arizona coyotes owner, at least the glazers spent money and tried to win.
@@philipjoyce8817you are a joke if you think they are the worst owners, United got some of the worst fans in the world tho
@@Cedisdead well you are an idiot if you dont think they are some of the worst owners. Im not looking at what they spend on transfers its gutting the club, keeping employees for years that are bad at their job, we are over 700 million in debt? You are probably one of those people who are like "united spends so much money" but doesnt realize its spent badly and panic buys at the end of the window.
That’s exactly how levy negotiated and Simon defends him every time
I will just add that certain players under certain managers will be maximized and achieve their highest results. That will probably be the case with Mount. With him playing alongside Bruno and United having two midfielders who press so well and are so industrious off the ball, plus ten Hag pushing both of them to continue to develop their passing, I expect United will be significantly better this season. And by the time Mount is done in red he might be thought of a bit better than he is right now coming off his Chelsea years. Because of that maximizing effect he should get from ten Hag.
More wishful thinking. They will do well against teams that afford them the space in midfield but will struggle against quality teams as usual. United were second best in most of their games against arsenal, city, newcastle and liverpool last season.
This is beautifully put man
"Develop their passing"... you develop your passing in the youth academies not in the PL. Mount essentially is a poor mans Bruno Fernandes, good final third pressing & goal threat/ chance creation. Their both attrocious in passing & holding the ball under pressure in contested midfield areas. In simpler terms they don't have the qualities required to be good midfielders, they can be effective secondary strikers though.
@@ghostinshell100 Agree
Agreed he's a terrible signing.
As a Chelsea fan I approve selling Mason Mount..Good bit of business.
55 mil profit...not bad
@@Stinkmeaner420no it's not. He cost Chelsea a lot of money since arriving at 6 years old. It's a failure of the club to retain him. But they did turn a profit, so works for them too
You’ll regret selling him to us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jamiewain4079 😎
What like selling Salah and KDB
In terms of numbers of titles and trophies in the past 20 year window, for Premiership clubs, Chelsea have won the most... is what Pochettino was saying. No amount of anti-chelsea hype and Chelsea hate feelings change that actual fact.
Yep
Certainly the most successful in Europe, with 2 Champions Leagues, 2 Europa Leagues and 1 Super Cup, plus the Club World Cup. Although I think City will surely add the Super Cup and CWC this season.
@dillcarver7731 Manchester United has always been, and will always be, a step up from Chelsea
@@SH-lm6ekpast success doesn’t last forever.
@@SH-lm6eknot based on the last 10 years.
The club offered him a contract in Feb and approached him same time Reece signed. He wanted to go. Given the fact the player didn't want to be there and wasn't going to sign. The club did well.
We have lost far better players and still continue to win things. Granted was under Roman, but not overly worried. Id be more disappointed if we lost James or Colwill. Plenty of players globally who can do what Mount does.
Simon Jordan is so savage and I'm loving it
Lmao losing injured kante hurts more than Mason😅
100%
Can't argue with that because Chelsea were pathetic all last season 😂😂
your muggy little club with there players on high wages on 8 year contracts llf, yea Chelsea in good shape getting your 2 time player of the year and your academy player by a bigger club... get use to it Chelsea.
@@relentless1989say with a straight face to that Mount is a good player
Lol a solid reflection of your fanbase. Don't even value your most creative player who came through the ranks. The mother of all plastic clubs 😂😂
Chelsea sold a woeful footballer for a lot of money. If that’s wrong then I need to check the definition of the word.
When you're paying Sterling and the likes of those players 250+ a week and an academy player less than then that, that's won leagues and a Champions league then it's only the owners that are to blame. If we'd done that with Rashford there'd be absolute chaos
No........ imagine James earns $300 a week I guess..............then what could have stopped Todd from giving him the same amount.................
They say Mount denied a long term contract at Chelsea yet he did sign a $300 5yr contract at Man United
Mount definitely didn't want Chelsea anymore
And maybe the change of ownership things changed
Mount is slightly above an average player, he is a hard worker and he shines sometimes but not consistently enough and the fact that he is British doesn’t make him a good player. I am really happy that we got 60m for this.
"Slightly above average"? Get off the crack pipe!
The reports were he has similar wage offers from a few clubs but ten Hag sweet talked him
I'm old enough to remember the legend Ray Wilkins. None of this is new. Mount hates Chelseas new idiot owners, not Chelsea.
'he can play as a 6' - shows you the value of danny murphy's opinion - when has mount ever in his senior career played as a 6? answer: never
Cheers for selling us your best player, chelsea 😂😂😂
😂 is this what your telling yourself? That Mount was Chelsea’s best player? 😂 Jesus Christ
This dude is thinking he’s getting a prime Gerrard or something. United fans are pure comedy 😂😂
Couldn't have said it better! Thanks Chelsea! 😂
great business transaction from chelsea considering he had 1 year contract, but the club definitely take a hit emotionally
Mount clearly felt he needed a new challenge, he's been at Chelsea since he was a kid good people!
Chelsea is always a good challenge loool There’s a new manager every 2,3 seasons. That’s hella challenging!
He wanted more money. That simple.
@@astradala1845 what rubbish, Chelsea are more than capable of paying, and according to reports United only matched Chelsea's latest offer. The harsh reality is that Mount felt the way Chelsea communicated to him months ago proved that he wasn't really that important to them and he concluded it was time to move on. You should check out what he said in his latest interview with MUTV, he literally mentioned this.
Danny Murphy was so on point throughout, he should be permanent
If we manage to get Onana and a Striker who can score us close to twenty goals or over then we will be on the right track. Onana is huge if we get him.
Agreed and maybe a cover for cas
@@chidoemeka2486 yup yup. I think Ten Hag is really going to trust Mainoo this season. Bring him through like he did with Gravenberch at Ajax so maybe we dont need a Case replacement. Mainoo needs to get minutes eventually.
@@michaelandreou4996 I never thought of that you know
Who the f bids $39 mil for a player valued at $70. At least do a 50
@@xyzblue4563 if you read Fabrizios tweet he said we bid £39 million ( English pounds ) but then says Inter asking for €60m ( Euros ). I dont know why Fabrizo done that. Because £39 million pounds is closer to 45=50 million Euros.
He just confused everyone with that tweet putting both Euros and Pounds.
Good business from Chelsea
No player is bigger than the club, if a player wants to leave let them leave and you can't blame a club on that,
*Coutinho wanted to leave and Liverpool had no option
*Hazard wanted to leave and Chelsea just had to let him go
*Sanchez wanted to leave arsenal for Man U and arsenal had no choice 🤷,
Mbappe wants to leave and he'll leave, you can't blame PSG
It's an addition that improves united, but it isn't a signing that's going to drastically change United to constant trophy winners. And that's after spending tonnes of money over the years. They need a clear out, big time and they need a 30 a season goal scorer.
Cr7
@@jalberto428 no
Yep and a lot of people are saying he’s the next Dele Alli the way he’s declined the last 18 months
@@jalberto428not good enough
@@lukealex6428so let’s see how this team that lost 0-7 to Liverpool and got 6 put past them by city. In the quarter final they got schooled by seville got 4th by default with Chelsea Liverpool and spurs having poor seasons. With Chelsea building a team with the best 19-20 year old players on the market if they live up to their potential then he’s made a huge mistake. A player of the year 2 out of the last 3 years with stats like Lampards could’ve been a Chelsea legend.
He was offered a salary in the similar ball park by Chelsea and Liverpool. Hard to think it was about money
He was offered 180k-200k by Chelsea. He signed for united for 250k a week
U need to think alot more..he got the #7 shirt..he is going to rake in millions from image rights...thats why he left chelsea
@@kevinesdaille1028 things he couldn't have had at Chelsea?
@@jmc4226 he left his parent club for 50k?
@@anurag1588 no
Chelsea was not in situation to agree anything during the ban…there were discussions happening with previous regime for both James and Mount but couldn’t conclude by the time ban came in…James agreed his deal with new owners but Mount couldn’t so what the hell is Tuchel supposed to do here when he himself got sacked soon after season began..Think at times before you speak Mr. Jordan!
Great stuff from Simon and Danny. Proper education this guys. Keep it up
Best Synergy
mason is a Pompey boy he doesn't care about Chelsea 🤣
Mason Mount CANNOT play as a six
He lost me at that moment
Dude played as a 10 6 8 and on the wing guess where his best position was? I give you a clue it wasn’t in midfield. He’s a good player but he gets lost as a 10 with too much freedom and doesn’t get to do enough from deep because he don’t have enough freedom.
@@Soonami6005 he is not coming to united to play in Casemiro 's case.
Simon really really really respects Danny. You can just tell.
😂😂😂😂
Did Danny try to compare Pogba and mount? Maybe check Pogbas accomplishments at 24 and compare it to Mounts.
I'm sure Mount would have won the same if he was in that France 2018/Juve (2012-16) teams.
Let's not act as tho Pogba was the main reason why those teams won those trophies.
@@Iamwhatyousayiam rewriting history… mount can’t get a game for England now, and definitely not getting into any French team. pogba was young player of the tournament at a World Cup at age 21.
Whether you like it or not, mount will never ever be in the same conversation as pogba.
Seems it’s not just the English media who are clueless, the fans are too…
@TheWallethead you let the point fly over your head.
The reasons they're compared are because they're both no.8 type of players.
@@Iamwhatyousayiam that’s not true. It’s you who needs to rewatch.
Mount is a instant Fred upgrade with upside that moves some older guys to the bench. It's a decent upgrade long term but likely the best Man U can get this summer considering the ownership mess the club is in.
+1 for Man U
They wont play the same position
Fantastic owners 1.7b in 10 year's that not enough?
@paulorganisation1 That's kinda my point. EtH is not looking for a "replacement" for Fred or Eriksen. He is looking for a hard-working/pressing CM with above average passing skills. 2 current MU players rolled into 1.
A mid 3 with Caz, Mount & Fernandes doesn't sound too bad to me.
OP is definitely going to be harassed.
@dman9152 I honestly have no idea what your comment means except comparing MU to Musk buying Twitter for $44b??
@dman9152 1.7b to win a few Micky Mouse trophies and struggle to get top 4. Doing a fantastic job aren't they... if you don't know what you're talking about it's best not to say anything.
Even United fans didn't want mount, Chelsea fans were excited he left. He's bang average
No team has signed world beaters yet in the premiership so far this season. Mount is class, not world class but potential to improve is massive. Also, money is everything in a small career.
Simon started one of his sentence saying he dsnt agree with Murphy, when Danny replied, he said I'm not saying in response to you!!!
Mount wanted a new challenge and to be valued and admired. So why not. Course he’d go and credit to Man U because as much as that pains me, they’ve done amazing with this signing.
Liverpool have already signed better midfielders this summer than Mancs have with Mount.
Alexis MacAlister & Dominik Szoboslai there's more higher celling quality than Mount
And hopefully Lavia too from Southampton.LFC will hopefully challenge City again for the title.i really feel like you said both Alexis and Dominik are a lot better signings than Mason.
@@chriscrouch7576 Lavia would be icing on the cake for midfield rebuild and seriously challenge City especially when City could be losing some key players this summer window.
See you soon scouse! 😂😂😂
I fail to see the point of Matterface.
Me too.
No one does but he sure loves the sound of his own voice
Mount = decent player nothing more, he won't enhance UTD. Should have signed Caicedo.
I think Utd should send Mount out on loan. Leicester or someone in the Championship. Still a young player and not ready for PL just yet.
I think you should stay off drugs
Hahahahaha
You cant beat a bit of Troll bait! 🎣🎣🎣
The bloke at 8 mins saying Ten Hag tried to sign Mount from Vitesse at 18 years old made me chuckle. I'm not sure how Chelsea would have felt about Vitesee selling one of their players to Ajax.
He wanted to sign Mount at 18. It doesn’t matter how anyone felt, that just shows Ten Hag has admired his footballing abilities for years now.
Eth isn't Moyes, Mourinho or OGS, He is a coach with a plan that's been plain to see. Mount chose Man U for the project the other pitches from Arsenal or Liverpool didn't attract him. So let's let it rest
Kante, havertz mount firesale at chelsea galaxy what are their aspirations with these decisions
I was more hurt by Mata than Mount!
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
He said mount can play as a 8 or 6 😂😂😂
Mount getting way too much airtime. This isn’t exactly a rice or haaland signing.
I like UK journalists whenever they want to do a job 😅. "Mount maybe concerning about manager go in and out after 18 years in Chelsea " that's ridiculous
Surely,
Murphy saying that mount can play a 6 also it's baffling,
Mount can't even play in the double pivot
Is there an English player out there that Danny Murphy doesn't rate?
I remember him saying how great Wellbeck would do for Arsenal.
Simon probably watched about 0minutes of Pogba at Juventus. Same problem as in United, he disapperaed in big games and had fluctuating performances. What Juventus had that United didnt was two world class players next to him that enabled him to roam in the channels more than what was possible in the Premier League.
Decent player at 24 and ETH has a decent record with improving players. Not all, though. Look at Sancho. This signing could go either way.
Since his break through at Chelsea what other attackers has been there in the time ? Pointless stats
They literally spent 250 million on attackers tf are you talking about?
@@subairmoyinoluwa8713 I was talking from a longevity standpoint
just keep calm and wait for next season
Mason Mount at United - It's the Aldi version of Foden at City :D
Where exactly would Mount have played in the new team? If the management had kept their eye on the ball we would still have Rudiger and Cristiansen
Every Talksport video is A CLASH!
Newsflash SJ, 5 year contracts are the norm
Danny Murphy dont like wearing headphones ay??....
Danny Murphy saying Hudson Odoi is a super talent at 16:50 is why you can never take Talksport serious
Wish Simon knew more about football.
Stats of Mason for Goals/Assists are misleading for being top at Chelsea because his teammates were not Fabrigas, Hazard, Willian, Petro & Costa.
Simon is so thick.
He uses an argument to defend his viewpoint that also directly shows the error or his viewpoint. haha
Simon calling Mount and Maddison Murphy’s surrogate sons 😂
Fucking hell, Sam Matterface is incredible on this show. He needs to be on this as much as possible!
gotta love simons tenacity.
Wish Mount the Best, on a side note the word great gets thrown around a lot these days…
We live in a world where Nketiah and Odoi are on 100k+ , someone needs to hit the reset button
Literally the hate and jealousy for united is palpable
If I was a Chelsea fan I would be pleased the the new manager don’t want Mount, this would suggest that he is going to bring in an upgrade on Mount. SIMPLE
He can't play as a 6, as an 8 he is good as one of a pair of 10s in the right system he is very good.
Yeah they’re hurt alrite, but instead of focusing the hate on the club hierarchy that let the kid go, they focus it on mount ! Pffft!
This signing is going to surprise a lot of people Mount is going to be immense for United
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Not really
he's never been immense his whole career
lets not kid ourselves. Manure have massive problems with player wages in that squad. Until they organically grow wages with success, instead of overpaying players who aren't winning the top honours; then Manure will remain in the dumps. The highest wage bill for the last 6 years! disgusting if you look at performance!
I think they will have a terrible season, Villa will finish above them and they'll be outside the top 6. Ten Hag hands tied by the horrifically built squad
That first caller is insane.
Mount is possibly now United’s best player, and this is the season he gets found out - I’ve never rated him as elite, despite the trophy cabinet…
Every other team offered him some of their money to what he's getting at United it's not for the money... And yes currently mentioned United are significantly ahead of Chelsea as the saying goes the table doesn't lie
Mount had to change agents and negotiations had to start all over again, that is something not talked about.
Will this debate of Mount ever end? The guy is making headlines everywhere 😂 let him rest
No other transfer has created this much noise this window 😂
@@Pob2278 he is the the Man of 2023 summer transfer window 😂 but I don't think they could have been much noise if signed for another club, they like taking United transfers to heart😂
How is he not a workd beater? Did he not provide the pass that beat Manchester City in the champions league final?
By that metric Gotze is world class too. Did you see that world cup-winning goal against Argentina?
Is Danny trying to say Mount is better than Pogba?
In the Premiership, yes.
I never knew Mount could play as a 6 as well. Breaking news
Mount cannot play as 6, 8 or 10.
He is very incomplete and therefore NOT a midfielder.
Mount is a forward, and not a very creative or consistent one either.
Mason Mount CAN NOT play a 6! What a statement. No one is winning anything with him there.
Laurie Whitwell said mason is on the same wages at united as what Chelsea offered him so no its not about money
Who the hell is Laurie Whitwell?
These shows should be renamed "Simon Jordan clashes with...."
Simon was pissed off when John Bostock left palace
Chelsea have bought muck and basically given away their crown jewel. This is a decision that will haunt them for years to come….
I just think Chelsea took for granted that Mount would stay, United made clear how much they wanted him, and once his head was turned that was it
He's not gone for the money, as he would have had a good offer from Chelsea, and if he went to another top team he would be on similar money to what he's getting at United
Mount is a Manchester United Fan thats what these Chelsea whoppers dont get , hes never loved Chelsea. Its a small club on comparison
Good luck mount... I am definitely going to miss you
Having not really seen anything of him for the last year I think I am over it already. He left months ago.
Mount didn't want to be at Chelsea any longer, good riddance, he won't be missed
a lot of "maybes" in simons arguments..