"WHAT HAVE I DONE?!" đ„” Does Ratcliffe REGRET Man Utd purchase? | Simon & Souness | Episode 19
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 06. 2024
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This week, Simon & Graeme preview Arne Slot's time at Liverpool, whether Sir Jim Ratcliffe regrets investing in Man Utd, and How Ancelotti is so successful!
00:00 - Intro
00:36 - Liverpool appoint Slot!
07:13 - Does Rashford need Man Utd exit?
12:28 - Does Ratcliffe regret Utd purchase?
19:26 - What makes Ancelotti so successful?
25:14 - Kylian Mbappe to join Real Madrid?!
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These two remind me so much of the legendary "Saint and Greavsie", pure chemistry humour and respect for each other, mates.
Can we all collectively agree that Rashford is not worth talking about so much. talk about Jarrod Bowen if you want all around good English player.
What's this "Rashford's been in the first team 5 years" nonsense?
This was his 9th season as a first team player
And he's been average for 7 of those seasons
He been caca for years and years
Absolutamente, amigo mĂo đđ» đ
El señor (por no chico nada mås) Rashford tiene popó mucho de años
souness says in in every show too. I don't know where he's got this number of five years from. That'd mean Rashford wasn't even a senior player when Liverpool were getting in those consecutive champions league finals
He's up and coming đđ future player
How does rashford always get people giving him excuses. Itâs madness. He is not that good. Had a couple of goal scoring purple patches over the last 8 years thatâs it. Always been a lazy.
Because itâs illegal to criticize african players in England.
Because when he's on it he's amazing. So the talent is there.
But when he's off form... he's barely above average. So hard to call how you rate him.
He seems like a genuinely lovely guy, so I think he gets the benefit of the doubt.
he plays at the wrong club. In Liverpool he would have played as a 9 and be BOSS. Like Sturridge
@@ThatsWhatSheSaid9492 What
@@dannytallmage2971are you that dense? You never saw how Pogba and Sterling were ripped by the press regularly?
Souness, Jordan and keane ........class pundits, no bullshit, don't care who they upsets. Love it
Ratcliffe has a terrible track record with his other football clubs that it makes the Glazers look competent by comparison. I don't understand why more isn't made of this in the mainstream.
b/c the football media's job is to manipulate football supporters not inform them.....
Why didn't you share this terrible track record? INEOS need to be more active and bullish, but they can bring the club to the modern times of football.
I just did that here? I think INEOS can be successful but I think their track record suggests it's far from inevitable.
Ruined every club he's been at
I hate to bring this argument, but like with players that get special treatment from the Press: He is English.
Talksport please get Roy keane on the show sometime soon. Gonna be hell of a combo alongside Jordan n Souness
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I think Sky don't like certain people doing other gigs. Could be wrong but I'm sure Darren Bent said that depending on your status at Sky.
They own talk sport â@@declanshanahan3888
Love the banter. Talking like real people
Souness still saying Rashford has "been on the scene five years". Nine years Graham. Van gaal promoted him to the first team, yet these pundits still seem to think he's a 23 year old that only got into the first team as recently as Solskjaers tenure
Sure they are still waiting for lingard to fulfil his potential
@@chucky7826 he's only what, 24? People need to stop hatin on a player he a hunad percent baller bro put sum respeck on da name
â@@WOOOPdoctorFROGherehe's 26
@@willtallis5275 you've missed the joke but that's for contributing
Great to see just the two off you again.
Great chat guys, fascinating topics discussed. đ
Loving Simonâs comment regarding Klopp âI wouldnât say his presence was omnipotent, but it was all-consumingâ. In a similar way, I personally am agnostic but accept that God influences everything I do đ
Are people for real? Jim Ratcliffe has barely been at the club for five minutes, had virtually no chance to change anything, and people call for his head immediately or make out he's going to want out already. This is just so typical if how knee-jerk and fickle we've become in this country.
it's talksport ...they make their money by hating Man Utd
slow story day
Utd isn't his first 'rodeo', though. Hasn't exactly been a roaring success at his other ventures in sports.
English media đ€ŠđŒââïž
I put Liverpool's season falling apart a sliding doors moment when Klopp played a strong team in the Europa League c S Prague with the tie done and dusted at 5-1 after the first (away) leg. Under 3 days later was the FA Cup tie v M Utd which always had a chance of extra-time and was a huge game for M Utd - momentum after losing that game seemed to caused a confidence-draining issue amongst the team.
You're wrong
Liverpool hit the wall đ§±
Players were drained from the fixtures and coming back from injury needing time to settle in.
Nothing to do with confidence.
So based on Souness thinking, United will NEVER be turned around. But he wants to give Jurgen all the credit for turning Liverpool around. If you can attribute success to one man at Liverpool, but United with a change of structure and everything are doomed.
Liverpool never had the Glazers running them
To be successful eternally , "the cream always rises to the top" , means you have to have a formula that brought you success that you can return to again and again
The "Most competitive league in the world" The English first division is not competitive in fact Liverpool win it all the time , Except when TV bought football
See the problem ? you cant repeat that to bring back Man U success
â@@joekavanagh7171 Yeah, Liverpool only had Hicks and Gillet, who almost bankrupted the club. You fickle scouse victims.
@@joekavanagh7171 so United is eternally rotten. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Teams go through bad spell. Before Ferguson United werenât doing well. One man brought success. So for me to believe that itâs impossible for Ratcliffe and his team or any owner for that matter to turn United around is crazy
The debt at United has the club tied up and not able to take a hit at selling the Deadwood
The debt has bugger all to do with it. The Glaziers have spend more than most clubs, the problem is the shite they have bought. They are so bogged down in bad buys, and large wages that I can't see a way out for them that doesn't inflict FFP issue.
Absolutely LđVE these two! Honestly think they deserve a lot more credit as pundits. They tell it how it is
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You are a strange chap...
Sir Simon Jordan OBE & Graeme Souness = top LADS Proper Clobbers đŻ Facts đ
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United took Liverpool down and done it in our worst season ever đ đ
Shows how far youâve fallen where thatâs your biggest achievement. Getting a few draws with Liverpool
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Liverpool were meant to be winning the quadruple đ
Ah! Mancs are gloating about stopping Liverpool as a highlight!! Wow! Just shows finishing 8th isn't a massive concern. Good luck next year because your team is going to need it as they still no way near a team.
@@FaharUddin-fj9kz You don't even know what United will look like next season. United will be a work in progress, but that doesn't mean they will be diabolically bad again. A new coach could also make a huge difference.
Rashford burst onto the scene and in that half season he scored 8 as a starter in 18 games.
Then in 3 full years in and out of the first team which was done by Jose to keep him hungry he got a good gradual growth in goals, including the season Jose left and ole came in he got 15 goals. Then was the time to ask questions if he could do it starting week in week out.
Rashford went on to have 20+ goals 3 times out of 5 following that point, to now. By my count thatâs more than 2 good years in 5 dumbfuck.
Considering for some of those years he was a good young player who was looked after games wise, there was very consistent growth for most of those years until the stinker with ragnick.
Liverpools kid didn't turn up for the Cup final, Chelsea created about 5 clear cut chances and missed them all. Yee were absolutely blessed to win it. Close to winning the quadruple tho đ€Łđ€Ł
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ratcliffe is not stupid, he knows how bad things are at Utd, everybody does and he still wanted to buy into it so doubt he regrets it and no matter how bad they are they are still talked about more than any other club in this country.
Souness mentioning Liverpool in the same breath as Real Madrid đđđ
In terms of English football theyâre the only comparable club to Real Madrid. Liverpool have 6 champions leagues/european cups thatâs the same as Chelsea, man United, City, spurs and Newcastle combined. Football heritage
@@tevildo45all won in the 80s back when you could spend half the game passing it into your own keepers hands.
@@Danny-cl6mf And most of Royal Madrid's were in the 50s when no English teams played in it
Then you have to factor in that ROYAL Madrid are Spain's national team and are protected by the Spanish Refs,
Liverpool are the most hated Club in England and the Refs are paid to prevent Liverpool doing well in their league
Which results in Liverpool missing out in playing in a few seasons
and they were banned for 5 years
So I guess you think handing the league to one team and then helping that team as a nation fund and prevent the English clubs winning the CL most years as something to be admired,
@@tevildo45 Manchester United are and allways will be the only English side comparable in size to Real Madrid and have the only fanbase comparable to Real Madrid sorry its just the way it is.
@Paddykelly8418 In terms of European pedigree man united are not even comparable to Bayern Munich, Milan or Barcelona. Youâve never ever dominated European football,
Slot has big shoes to fill but jurgens time at liverpool has not been all wine and roses. He had 2 disastrous seasons. One straight after winning the epl. The first few years fans were getting worried that liverpool were always the bridesmaid never the bride. And this season fizzled out after getting good results earlier in the season but not playing all that well. Slot has a good basis to build on but no unreasonably high expectations to fulfill.
The way these guys speak on Mbappe because of the money he earns is crazy
Could listen to these fellas all day long
Not sure what Simon is on about... both Mancini and Pellegrini won titles at City.
edit- Souness is correct.
Yes but did not dominate as now - Souness full of his own BS
Pre 1992 both the English 1st Div & the European Cup were a joke..... when the PL began there were a Total of 13 foreign footballers in the League - not 13% - 13 individuals..... for 100 yrs it was slow UK born footballers playing a sport that looked more like wrestling and the UCL which was made orders of magnitude more difficult after the expansion in 1992 was kind of a joke from 1955 - 1991..... City would Murder Souness LFC teams
Like this season, if I was pellegrini, I doubt he gets more points than this city 4th league title in a row. Itâs not hard to understand. People rate pep as the best in the world? So you already admit there will be a drop off. Theyâd have lost leagues to Arsenal and Liverpool if it wasnât for pep.
@@dalefurniss3724 The notion was that City will fall off without Pep. It's objectively incorrect when we observe City's success prior to Pep. City will only truly 'fall off' once the Saudi state stops investing.
@@jackzeldon2883 ermm.. okay? It's all relative regardless. Even so, the notion was that City will fall off without Pep. Evidently, this is not the case.
Yall don't realize Rashford also hasn't a proper left back behind him or goal scoring striker ahead of him this season.
The thumbnail said "Send of season special"
6 in 7 years is amazing as well as 4 in a row but United and Liverpool did 7 in 9 at one point at their best, if you count Year 1 Pep its 6 in 8 years and he might get 7 in 9 then walk so equalling those 2
We got Graeme sounness saying banter before gta 6
Good show fellas
If Liverpool(nunez) had scored half the chances that were created then Liverpool would have won the league at a canter. Maybe next season the strikers get their scoring boots laced up properly?
If your auntie had wheels she would be a wheel barrow
@@tevildo45 If the PGMOL did give the Doku penalty and the Odegaard Penalty and the Spurs goal , Liverpool won the league,
The PGMOL decide who wins the league , have done every year except the first season of VAR, when they were not with sure they still get away with it
But Liverpool being 15 points clear by Xmas, made the TV execs mind up pretty fast
You could say the same about Haaland
Iâd give Slot 2 seasons to see how he does. I wouldâve said 1 cup and top 4 finish was good after last season and a whole change in the midfield.
Quite clearly Graeme would have preferred no change at United as he supports Liverpool. Trying to convince himself that Ratcliffe will regret buying football control 4 months agođđđ
some interesting thoughts.
As good as TAA can be the demise of our season came about with the benching of Bradley. No ifs, no buts. He was the X Factor. And CAN defend!
Spot on, 2 years out of 5 says it all. Decent player. Never a top player
A proper grown up conversation . Jordan isn't afraid to confront the biggest elephant in any room and say it directly to it's face ..
So Liverpool finished 3rd with a league cup..is that a better season than arsenal đ€??
Yes by far and away better. Every season the goal is to maintain top four, whilst challenging and picking up silverware. Arsenal failed the briefing
Did you say the same about United last season?
@@axelfond8317 Maybe if it was the FA cup, not the league cup.
@@ajnz2420 Arsenal won the league cup?? Oh they didn't win anything again. My bad
@@axelfond8317 I don't like Arsenal but they were in the race until the last day. Liverpool dropped their toys months ago. The league cup is basically pointless, most teams play their reserves until the final, Klopp even played a lot of youth in the final, that shows what he thinks of the comp. Teams certainly put more effort into the FA cup but the league is the true test. Maybe the league cup is now Liverpools level?
They talk about having an influence in the dressing room, those lads had the best possible influence in Ronaldo and they allowed him to leave, how could the players let that happen, it makes you believe more and more that Ten hag got rid of him to win the dressing room because when he left they all started playing. If Ronaldo canât influence you to be an elite pro thereâs no manager in the world that can make you a better pro and this is why nobody will ever change United until United change the personnel within the squad. The players have been and will continue to be the problem!!! I bet none of them were watching his regime or seeing how he looked after himself or trying to get advice because most of them probably believe they are good enough or that they donât really care enough to get anywhere near his level. We have a team of talented players who are poor professionals
Liverpool ran out of asthma inhalers.
A big problem for MU is when they buy 'stars' and they SIT ON THE BENCH earning bigger bucks than players on the field. Doesn't it have a demotivating effect on the squad as a whole?
He's not been in the side for 5 years, it's been 9 years and he's had two strong seasons.
Rashford has lost lingard the clown. He needed him to look better/professional by comparison
Grahame cannot be taken seriously, look at what he said about Marteniz. đ
He was right we still get battered loads of times with martinez in the team
I love Grahams views and agree with most of his opinions.
I do not agree that Jurgen didn't get it wrong on the run in.
I do think personnel and tactics should have changed.
We were suddenly very easy to score against it was pathetic.
Man U managed to score 6 goals over 2 games against us.
Where was Captain VVD then.? He at times as been awful and no way a Liverpool Captain.
As soon as Trent makes a mistake it's jumped on. Konate ,Robertson also woeful when defending. Thats where Jurgen should have some how found away to stop the goals.
Also the kids did really well,but as soon as the so called superstars were back,then the kids did not get a look in . Nunez ,Salah,Sobozlai were just terrible.
Out form and you be dropped and go with someone else.
I was crying out for Danns to come on v Manc u.
I'm convinced he would have made something happen to change game.
So sorry Jurgen and coach were to blame for decisions made and decisions not made on the run in.
I remember when Graham was Liverpool manager!!! Just because your a great player doesn't mean you'll become a great manager. Why wouldn't Slot be successful. The players need to completely switch on again to new ways but fundermentally Slot plays a very similar way. I'm positive because of the clubs structure, the recruitment.
Let's be positive
the new manager at lever pool does not need any time, you lot never gave ten hag a chance all that was said he's a Dutch league manager but now just said you can only win the league your in, what a load of nonsense that comes from theses two
Jesus wept
Give Ratcliffe a bit of time ha ha
Itâll be get Jim out next đ
Sir jim sacking office workers or making them.resign....oh what a lovley man.
Can we talk about the helicopter tangent so weird and awkward
For people that hate Manchester United ye just cannot stop talking about them and it's all because they are the biggest club and also the biggest news
Big club in Manchester but Real Madrid are a far bigger club
â@@tevildo45Madrid are more popular in Latin countries, but United are far more popular worldwide. In a pre-season friendly between the two clubs in the US a few years ago, 90% of the fans were for United.
How many European cups do man United have? Madrid have bigger revenues, more social media followers and have more history
Ratcliffe furiously looking for his receipt.
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suddenly remembers the glazers told him the printer was on the fritz back when he made the deal and they'd get it to him later on
đđ Made me laugh a lot
If only Simon could learn not to ask a question and then immediately argue against it..
At united they need to get rid of all the players that were not willing to put in 100 percent and if that means everyone except the keeper then so be it, starting again is needed, a real start again, complete clear out
The keeper has been of the worst performers this season.
That will never happen and your only find more players to hate
Nope! RatCliff Knew exactly what he is doing. ETH was too smug in his Press Conferences.
The younger generation who're lucky enough and good enough to play professional football and make millions while they're at it, get far too much too young and that's why they lose interest, they lose the eye of the tiger and that's a fact. Things have to change in the way players are paid, there is far too much money in the game now!
Please stick together talksport yous are a great team together class
Just how angry did you get when Salah scored against Dan Levyâs club? đ
World Class players do not have to have pace such as Luis Figo or Seedorf
Hated, adored, never ignored. 40% of this is talking about Manchester United for basically no reason at all
This isnât a good thing. Being such an obnoxious group of people that your failure brings joy to others isnât something to brag about.
@@dannytallmage2971 Most bods outside of Liverpool, Leeds and City don't have a problem with Utd, their away fans are top draw.. Like them or otherwise they are box office globally.
@@declanshanahan3888Absolutely spot on!!!
I think it was essential United needed that change in ownership as the club looked rudderless.
Just throwing money at the club wasn't fixing it .
I don't think any investor can regret buying United it a global club .
Ridiculous. They ALWAYS have to talk about United despite moaning that United get too many column inches even in their current depressing state .
Darwin nunez cost 65million not 85 as everyone like to say - thats with add ons and targets..... Nunez GA is good for his age and a new league its just he misses alot more chances that would make him up there with the best in terms of his numbers.
Hopefully Jim will appoint Southgate soon....đđđ
Recruitment is a Black Art.
Mbappe was unmanageable at PSG, ask Poch.
Jim and Ineos will bring MUFC back to the top within the next three years
I've been saying Radcliffe haven't come to Utd to improve them, he has come to finish them off đđđđ
It's what Radcliffe has been doing for years with other clubs he got involved with, trouble is coming to Utd
Nice Improved under them actually
Sell Rashford to a club in Dublin, he likes it there. As part of the transfer, we will cover his tabs at the clubs. If PSG take him i will pull a muscle laughing .
This Liverpool legend is proper bitter old guy
I was just thinking that
Ha haha ha đđđđđ
Jota injury, Salah and Nunez gone firing blank
300k a week is not f off money?.... Just shows how grotesque the money swilling around in football is...
Bang on drysandwich 9 season not moved on
Slow news day, fellas?
How can they question the changes that have been implemented or flagged by Ratcliffe? He is making all the right moves to revamp the club from the top down, which is where you need to start to make cultural changes. United has been the worst run club in world football and he has (or is in the process of) replaced all the key personnel running the football department. I expect ETH will be next and then the player clear out will start. I'm very pleased with what I've seen and heard so far.
I find it bizarre how so called experts cant see why Liverpool dropped off .. loads of injuries to the top players happened we won the leavue Cup with kids . What killed Liverpool is trying to get the top lads minutes after injuries..it started with Atalanta and carried into the next few games until the top lads got match fitness back..its not rocket science but its been totally ignored
They have dominated... What's he on about đŽ
A deluded scouser/scot... He's regressed back to the default pre-Klopp scouse mode of living on the past... nothing compares to his generation.
I think the biggest worry looking t it now, is that he is seemingly making football decisions before Berrada comes in. That's Ed Woodward 2.0 right there. Him and Dave have no right to be making any football decisions. Hopefully simping for Southgate was a rumour, but I worry there was some truth to it.
Just trolls at this stage
Right about Rashford inconsistent player
Is cool to see bias in action
What was the bias ?
if you cheat you can win the league every year and you will never be a great side.when will they be held accountable and why do the other sides put up with this
Do you know nay City fans , due to number of merchandise sales they post you should see thousands of people walking around in City merchandise form old to young
The amount of XXL City away shirts they sold over the last few years we should almost see one every day just walking around your local area
â@@KevinMannix-sf5zkbut you don't I don't see any people in city shirts not even kids still
United need to convince a few of the best YOUNG players to join, for now thats it we will get back
Rashford .... just look to Gerrard in 2004/2005 in a poor Liverpool team that won the Champions League
So learn and go for it but without motivation you've no chance and thats why it wont happen. Not fit to lace Gerrard's boots but you could have been
Love u2âŠđ
Iâm surprised sourness hasnât melted over the years, he must be made of chocolate. He was shocking at Newcastle!
Why would anyone watch this?
These two just can't help talking about the 8th best team in the league
No because United are whether people like or not the poster boy of Premier league even today
They get far more attention with their 8th in the league than City winning the title probably double in few days
Love these 2 me
Champagne charlies are totally unmanageable
100million a year in wages, no wonder such players think they are above everyone on the pitch
How on earth is any player worth 2-3million a week, i assume in euros?
Brian clough was right that he absolutely hated agents, and just imagine the power mbappes agent has over psg, or any club he goes too?
"How on earth is any player worth 2-3million a week, i assume in euros?"
Pretty easy you count his assets not just in football but overall and you get his earning. A player who earns 200.000 a week wont be satisfied if the club earns four times as much on the name
3 million euroÂŽs could actually be too low
But those 3million a week is not only from football but every assets he has. The club might pay the player 300-600 thousands pounds/euro a week
The biggest players earns more money from sponsors outside of football
Liverpool are F'd. It was amazing seeing Klopp make Liverpool an elite trophy winning/challenging side again after decades of decline, but they will slip back into the Hodgson era pretty quickly now.
Based on what?
â@andyacropopolis5815 it took you 30 years to find a klopp what makes you think you will get another back to back? History tells us u will fall.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom YNWA đ
@@davidkotze4140klopp is leaving for a reason, itâs another rebuild job soon. Even if salah and dijk stay, they are getting older
Yawn he won 1 title for gods sake hardly earth shattering fergie won 13
Livarpool,Chelsea,and Man Utd,are all poisoned chalices.
Ffs souness. Rashford has been in the first team for longer than 5 year's.... He was brought in under van gaal 2015. 9 seasons and he's had 2 bad one's. Shut up and get a job doing something you know.
Ratcliffe will eventually own the club, clear the debt, and then it will prosper again both on and off the pitch.
keep pissing Fergusson out of it he is like a bloody crow on the wire
No offence chaps but I donât think Sir Jim operates at your level or thinks the way you do.
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