Cable Tray, Three Phase Sockets & SWA Cable Install - Part 2
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- Cable Tray, Three Phase Sockets & SWA Cable Install - Part 2
Join me as I install cable tray, three phase and single phase sockets and SWA Cable throughout this brand new industrial unit.
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Hı, Do you neen nvq3 certificate for these jobs or NVQ2 LEVEL is enough for home electric repair and installation ?
I like the bit at the end where you are offering your leftovers to a college or such like. Big thumbs up for that!
Thanks!
Jordan thank you for the content!
Never underestimate the power of post it notes. Especially when working with someone else, 1A, 2A, 3A (EoL).
I use dust extraction on my rotary hammer, and use a steel door magnet from a security switch inside a disposable plastic bag turned inside out so that after I get done picking up all of my filings and chips I can just turn it right way around, throw out the bag, and don’t have anything on my magnet.
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That magnet idea is GENIUS! Thank you!
I will check the KC Tools thing... never heard of them.
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Neat job, For small armoureds I always use 300mm cable ties and use them for the spacing quicker than counting holes.
Nice
That’s actually a really good idea, cheers
clear from these changes is that the scope of the new regulations is wider than in the 17th Edition 3rd Amendment, specifically where reference is made to both entry routes in and exit routes out of the building. This reference combined with explicitly requiring metallic fixing is to reduce the risk of cables causing an obstruction - both to the residents of buildings as well as to first responders.
When fixing cables to exposed surfaces vertically and horizontally, the spacing of metal fixings should be approximately 250-400mm. HellermannTyton does not recommend that plastic fixings are used as the only method of fixing and should only be used in addition to sufficient metal fixing.
Where changes have been made to include cable trays and baskets it is recommended that larger cables and cable bundles are fixed within a cable basket or tray. By using metal fixings such as stainless-steel ties in conjunction with cable trays and baskets ensures maximum compliance with the 18th Edition to reduce risk of cables causing obstruction in the event of a fire.
Great videos. I’m an apprentice electrician just in my second year now trying to learn as much as possible and your videos are very helpful! Thank you.
A nice cushy day on-site and in the shade, and a good job as always Artisans!
However, the idea of glanding off so many SWAs in one day makes me want to cry into my can of Thatcher's Gold 😂😂
Haha yeah not the electricians dream to gland off all those SWA cables but with the CK armourslice it makes it a lot easier!
I always use some flush cutters for cable ties, I had enough of slicing up my hand with those sharp bits!
Maybe you just need tougher hands! haha. I never had a problem of even remotely cutting my hands on them
Neat installation. I’m curious why you chose tray and SWA instead of trunking and conduit? I would have thought it would have been quicker, cheaper and even more neater? It’s not a criticism of your workmanship, cant fault you there. Excellent videos by the way, especially for anyone’s who’s entering the trade and need some extra tuition. 10/10
That's the way I would have went about it also.
More space on tray for more cables
@@tommymack3210 you get a lot more circuits wired in singles in a 4" trunk than you get on top of a tray with SWA unless you are one seriously rough bastard.
As a Yankee used to NEC codes, when I tuned In to your chan. by mistake I felt like I walked into the wrong classroom. Reminds me to first time I was in England and watched a rugby tournament.
Love your passion for the job ! Inspiring and so satisfying to watch a job well executed !
Cheers
Greetings from South Africa. Very neat install as always Jordan.
Thanks! Welcome!
Lovely job. Very neat.
The nearness of this install makes me so happy 🤣. Hoping to find myself a position as an Electrical improver soon as i already have my level 3 and I'm booked in for my ecs in a couple weeks. My worry is nobody's employing with the current situation but i'd love to me doing stuff like this! 👌. Great job
I agree with how you execute a project and also agree on how neatness (overall) simplifies an installation. Planning is always key.
Also, with cable ties, rather than using a blade, you can use side cutters. You will have to cut at an angle to get it right. However, there is a technique involved that will render a flush, non sharp aka tacky finish. Alternatively, get some Knipex Electronic Super Knips which cuts flush every time.
By the way, I'm really enjoying your videos and find it interesting....although, I'm not a sparky by trade! I'm a communications and security geek!
“The warehouse project” has a ring to it.... but where I come from (Manchester) the warehouse project is a lot more fun than yours 😂
What a gaff!
LOL
Cablesmith Electrical haha I’m from Dundee been to warehouse project many times what a club
@@djcraigando I thought it was more of an event than a club
Connor McAdam yeh your right buddy 👍👍
It’s nice to work in a brand new unit. Our factory is about 80 years old so running cables and trays you get absolutely covered in dust 🙈. We recently had a complete fire alarm system installed which cost £55 thousand pounds. The installers couldn’t get over how dirty they were getting. Great vid once again thanks for sharing. 🐵
Wow thanks for sharing!
Yay thanks mate for putting up part 2. Im about to do a job which is very very similar to this install so was looking for some tips. great video 👌!
Awesome hope the job goes well!
Such a neat job, nice to see the planning and thought in the layout of the cable runs. I attend so many factory installations down south and there's just a hog podge of cable zipped together with no thought to alterations in the future. Nice to see someone actually laying out cabling like myself, though I must admit I still don't use ferrules nearly as often as I should.
Thanks!
I hardly ever clean up so people know where I have been. Nice job👌
That is beautiful work can see you take a lot of pride in your work.
Thanks so much!
Greetings from Manchester once again..... love to see people that have pride in what they do..... extremely neat job..... keep up the great work ethic..... Toodle Pip Squire until the next time..T.T.F.N...😁😎📽️👍👍✌️🍻🏍️
Thank you very much!
Excellent workmanship and attention to detail was spot on. Your client will be delighted with it. 👍👍👍
Thanks!
Great work again , your 20cm cable support spacing is spot on as you well know the blue book is to work from not too
Thanks for that
Nice job and for a nice change a clean newly built and un-molested blank page to install it all on, can't ask for more.
Neat Work Jordan and I liked you used with the laser so as to space the cable cleats.thjanks for Sharing:)
Thanks for watching!
nice & neat job .
With helpful explanations.
I like it👍
Excellent install again and great video. Nice to have pride in your work, quality 👍🏻
Thanks! 😁
Artisan Electrics you should try the Wiha electronics diagonal cutters (On Amazon) they cutter cable ties flush 👍🏻
Cool thanks
Neat and tidy as always another classic one ..love it..
Thanks again!
Its not just electricians that don't know how to tidy up, i've had builders, chippies, plumbers, fridge engineers and sparks through the building I look after and none of them know how to tidy up properly. nice to see a job done well!
Thanks!
nice job! nice to see such attention to cleat spacing etc...always a bit OCD over that, not as bad as the sparkey i did my time with, in those days it was slotted screws, and the slots had to be in line with the SWA or piro P clips! ...drove me nuts.....bet you prefer this to domestic EICR's!
Great job as always 😁. As well as ferrals id put heat shrink insead of tape to ID conductors and put Helmans sleeve on the sheath after stripping the conductors to seal the ends. Dont forget to install the cross bonding for the tray to with the earth braids. Keep the vids coming 👍😁
Thanks!
Anything else mate? Jesus Christ
@@craigmcdonald4988 i did go on a bit.. sorry 😂
I use 12" ties generally and use a length of the tiewrap for spacing to the next tie. Saves counting holes.
Very nice install by the way.
Nice tip!
Perfect same method I used to use. The other was the length of my hammer.
Dont forget to use some stainless to keep the fire escape routes clear applies to domestic and industrial....
I appreciate the effort you make.
Thanks! 😁👍
Nice neat job Jordan, good to see something different and great work ethic
Thanks 👍
Superb job once again!
Wow, thanks!
Very nice job!
I like the cleats all being the same height as I’m a bit ocd about that sort of thing lol
Haha me too! 😁
Grip the excess of the cable ties with your pliers and twist them till it comes off, leaves a smooth finish.
For cutting cable ties flush I like having a good set of flush side cutters marvel do a good set. And for metal cable ties cabacs tool for them is pretty decent for the price.
Cool thanks will check them out
Nice and great work👍👍
Thanks!
Cracking video, very informative, one of the neatest installations I have ever seen.
Wow, thanks!
Really nice job, looks clean and sleek
Thanks!
I'm Brazilian, my name is Renan, I live in the state of Rondônia, in the city of Porto Velho I see your videos. it is just very good your work, great your electrical finishes.
Very good job
Nice work
Nice neat job 👍
Hey mate I saw your video about getting into the trade. How are you getting on? Did you go to college?
Good neat job nice to see. I'm sure you did just checking you used fly leads on the 13a skts. Optional on flush sockets using ko boxes not on metal clad.
Love working on a nice empty shell. Have one in 2 weeks to do. Keep up the good work
I didn’t use flying leads as the sockets back boxes were earthed from the SWA glands and the front of the sockets.
@@artisanelectrics make sure you dont forget to take off the inner powder coating.....
We are using the same method in Iraq in industrial locations .... Good job👍
Cool
Too get a good cable tie cut use the knipex 78 61 125 snips 👍🏻
Great work jordam
Thanks!
It’s great to see the quality of work, the OCD lol I am the same just makes a quality job well done looks fantastic
Thnks!
Use the cable tie itself as a measure for the distance apart, in other words, place a tie every cable tie length apart. Also use flush side cutters from ebay. Search for Plato side snips. Only a couple of quid. Great video!
Great tip!
Just a question regarding 3 x 32 amp commandos on a radial. If the loads are small that are being plugged in would they not be on 16 amp 5 pin plugs. And if there above this surely there's a risk of overload I mean why a small load on a 32 amp socket
I agree in industrial there is no diversity applied!!!
Each commando should really be on an mcb depends on client but if one machine goes faulty you going to.loose all 3.
I was told that a lot of load on big 3 phase machinery is usually in the initial start up current needed, as long as you don't start them at the same time I would think the risk would be low, but I'm just a viewer.
@@cjhification true.tjays why you put motors on D type rated mcbs.
But still.wise to split each machine into individual circuits.
Each commando in its own mcb
Nice work.good luck
Lovely neat job
Thank you! 😊
Nice one Dave 👍
😂😂😂
Hi jordan does it get on your nerves people criticising your work ?? That is a great job youd be well pleased if you was paying for that work, and your taking time to show people and make these videos well done pal best on you tube by a mile 👍
Thanks! I try to take all constructive criticism on board but sometimes people just like to moan! LOL it doesn't bother me.
Use truflush cable cutters to trim the cable ties, would have used green / yellow sleeving on the the CPC for the single phase sockets rather than tape also. Overall a good job as usual.
Looks mint
Thanks! 😁
Jordan that job looks the mutts nuts!! Great stuff...it’s good to see different cable management installations. Sadly my chances of doing that sort of work are now very limited where I am so nice to see how others do them. Did you fix the tray straight to the wall by the C.U. and far end or did you place a bracket support behind every so far? Tray simple do a great time saving spacer which saves using unistrut and them zebs and looks a damn sight neater to. If you haven’t tried them I highly recommend. I think Gaz from e-fix did a video on them a little while back.
Keep up the good work Jordan 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Cool thanks! Yeah we just spaced it off slightly with penny washers so we could get the cable ties through.
Very clean like it should be
Thanks!
I have a pair of Lindstrom cutters. Very expensive but are excellent for cable ties. .you can of course get a proper cable tie gun which pulls and slices the cable tie
CHP-170 flush cutters work very well for cable ties
for the cable ties, surly quicker to just do the length of the tie wrap between each one. rather than counting the space.
Good tip!
Goes without saying.
@@Kevin-mp5of an angle grinder it's shit. Taking the skill out the trade with that monkey pish. I bet you like using conlock conduit fittings aswell
clear from these changes is that the scope of the new regulations is wider than in the 17th Edition 3rd Amendment, specifically where reference is made to both entry routes in and exit routes out of the building. This reference combined with explicitly requiring metallic fixing is to reduce the risk of cables causing an obstruction - both to the residents of buildings as well as to first responders.
When fixing cables to exposed surfaces vertically and horizontally, the spacing of metal fixings should be approximately 250-400mm. HellermannTyton does not recommend that plastic fixings are used as the only method of fixing and should only be used in addition to sufficient metal fixing.
Where changes have been made to include cable trays and baskets it is recommended that larger cables and cable bundles are fixed within a cable basket or tray. By using metal fixings such as stainless-steel ties in conjunction with cable trays and baskets ensures maximum compliance with the 18th Edition to reduce risk of cables causing obstruction in the event of a fire.
I would have grouped the cables together makes for a straighter line. Individually clipping each cable makes it harder to keep the line straight no matter how hard you pull on the cable ties and also uses more ties.
This is a great video of the install can you show how you are installing the terminal and what crimper you are using
Nice to see you using bootlaces. I live in western australia and work in an iron ore mine. Get our hands chopped off if we dont use them
Sounds great!
Very neat job there mate. Did spot no earth straps between breaks in the tray install. Missed em lots of times myself tbh but you can get pulled on some sites!!
Thanks 👍
A taste of a normal summer here in the Great down under of New Zealand. Years ago under the factories act work stopped if the inside temperature became above 35 degrees and remained so for thirty minutes.
Wow nice! 😎
Here I am with 4 inch thick bundles of ethernet, audio, DC, 120 and 240 AC, RF, USB, vacuum, air, water, petrol, and propane lines all velcro'd together and screwed to the ceiling. But it's my truck so nyah nyah can't code me :p Still gonna install some trays and separate things a little better pretty soon though
Awesome job! Love how neat your work is👌🏼What camera are you filming on? The quality is so good
Thanks! I do most of the main stuff with my iPhone 11 Pro and then some B roll with my Nikon D3100
Nice Tidy Job Jordan 👍
Thank you!
What fixings did you use for the tray mounting brackets and what was you fixing to on the back wall for the vertical tray?
It used to be a stackable offence cutting cable ties with side cutters.
I have seen guys come down off over head cable mesh with bloody arms, the cut ties can be sharp as razors.
There are cutters designed for just that job.
Totally! Thanks for the comment!
That does not sound like OCD, that sounds like you being a professional, getting things all lined up with ties evenly spaced just makes sense. Taking that 32A 3-phase breaker back because the writing was different, now that would be a candidate for OCD.
Jordan, I didn't see any circuit idents on the wiring inside the distribution board, I know it's straightforward to identify the live conductors from which circuit breaker they go to but we've found it's good practice to identify the neutrals and earths where they terminate in their respective common bars. I know you've probably terminated them in circuit order but it saves any confusion if you number the cables.
I'm curious as to why you used the earthing back nuts on the cable glands instead of banjo tags, there must be quite a difference in cost.
Where I work we've stopped putting the sheathes over cable glands that are installed outside as we've found that they are ineffective at preventing water ingress and in a lot of instances trap rainwater in the gland and make the situation worse.
Cheers, Jim
Hi Jordan, Nice work as always. Do you not need to bond the cable tray?
Neat job. Wish I could spend a little more time making stuff as neat pressure of working for a company and getting the job done.
Thanks! It’s a shame if you’re under pressure and the quality of the job suffers because of it.
Great work! Always impressed with your work! And I dislike being told electricans never clean up.
Where did you get your cable drum Reeler? It's an useful bit of kit
Hi Jordan, where do you get the large headed screws that you have used to fix SWA cleats. I’ve been trying to find them as I like the way the look and hold the cleats. The last time I needed a load of them i brought a tub of plasterboard twist fixings just really for the screws... on the subject of the video I’m totally with you on pull ties and going the full belt and braces on jobs like that. Keep up the great work.
Fair play Jordan looks spot on mate. Just out of interest what sort of equipment is the client plugging into the 3-phase commandos?, when I install commandos there normally dedicated supplies to each so I’m assuming not massive loads on each socket.
No just light loads he gave me a list of all the loads before I planned the job.
@@artisanelectrics 32A for future proof vs 16A, if just small loads?
Yeah
@@artisanelectrics be nice to see a video on the design and planning side of things, great content as always 👍
Hey great work!! I've got a question; In my country we use 220v 50hz single phase and 415v 3 phase , I'm planning my pole barn style building , some of the equipment are from the us and they requires 3 phase , i would like to wire the building to have both 120v and 220v , what step down transformer would you recommend thanks in advance. fyi we also only use 1hot , 1 neutral and 1 ground/earth for our 220v 1phase
Great video. Just one question. As a learner I'm curious as to why you used radial circuits instead of ring main. Is there a benefit to this or a regulation that states this is what should be done? Or is it just personal preference. Really enjoying watching your videos. Keep posting the great videos!!
Look at Premier cable tray it comes pre punched for glands.
Thanks
Very cool, but here in Brazil we have totally different materials to work with!
hi...there...that is nice video...I am electrician too ...but i work for offshore platform yea...start from install support, cable tray and pulling cable. dressing and manymore....but thank you , please make video using cable tray trof type instal on below deck which is have adjustable riser..if you dont mind..hehe...
Very neat job mate. Have you got a link to that dust pan thingy? 😉
Nice to see the project process. The supports and tray seem a lot of work for a few cables. Did you not think about not using these and just use cleats/clips? 🤓
I did but it just felt like cheating to do it that way, and it would have taken just as long to be honest and looked rubbish.
I got some electronic cutters from RS for cutting ties, they're only small and you can get them cheaper elsewhere, they cut flush and they're great, also I just use a cable tie length as a guide to spacing them.
Also is that CK cutter for SWA any good? Was thinking of getting one but didn't know if it was worth it. Nice install though 👍
What was the thought process with hanging the tray Jordan,,?? One run of the tray was hung vertically yet on the other wall it was hung horizontally???
Nice video.
Wouldn't the cable tray on the cantilever arms be prone to premature collapse, presuming the cantilever arms are fixed to the wall with plastic rawl plugs and screws.
I am not an electrician so i am not in anyway familiar with the regs.
More curious than anything, thanks.
You should make a video on south african electrics
KNIPEX 78 61 125 Electronic Super Knips
These are excellent at cutting the cable ties flush
from amazon
My OCD approves!
Haha thanks!
Hiya, why not use ty-wrap pliers? Adjustable tension plus smooth cut off of tail, designed & made for the job...
What fixings did you use on cleats on the sheet metal on back wall please?
Very neat job just surprised how many cable circuits you have installed is there not a limit on how many 13 amp sockets you have installed on a radial in the Uk just say what happens if they plug in an 3 KW electric heater in the winter.
Rather than using a knife for cutting Tie wraps I use a Thomas and Betts (No. ERG299) Cable Tie Tool. For me it's easier to to use in cable tray or enclosures.
Cool
Hi Jordan. Exemplary work there. Are you going to label the armours at each socket where they are fed from and circuit no. (I understand the DB is by the door but for isolation purposes and other things). The cable tying, personally we always put the clamp side on the other side of the tray 1 it looks neater and 2 you don't shred your hands and or cable when pulling in another circuit. Also at the end you had some kind of strange contraption that magically makes mess disappear. What course and where did you go to get that qualification? Seems a bit of a specialist course I bet?
you can get flush cutters for cable ties. i know you're using armoured cable, but dont you required to have mechanical protection on the drops ? in from Australia, we do things so different here.
Being from Canada I find it so strange that your mains are always just single unprotected regular conductors, a lot of this stuff seems so unsafe compared to our standards, even in this setting it would all be either Metal conduit or metal armored cables (or tek which is metal armor cable with an extra exterior rubber. Although it is interesting to see how things are done in different parts of the world.