FuhNaff Proves Me WRONG About Security Breach! | Matpat Reacts To “I Solved FNAF Security Breach”

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    Friends, today I’m rejoined on the couch by ‪@FuhNaff‬ and ‪@DapperMrTom‬ to finish the group reaction and talk back to Fuhnaff’s “I Solved FNAF Security Breach” theory. There were some VERY bold claims made that I think actually make a lot of sense. Come along as we finish dissecting the theory and hear from Fuhnaff himself about his thoughts on Security Breach, The Ruin DLC, and FNAF in general.
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  • @FuhNaff
    @FuhNaff Před rokem +9355

    YALL IM ON GTLIVE CAN YOU BELIEVE IT

    • @cyberfox7249
      @cyberfox7249 Před rokem +85

      Yo, what's your favourite part of doing five nights at freddy's thoerys? Also, will you do a poppy playtime, thoery?

    • @Mir_Bee
      @Mir_Bee Před rokem +57

      WOO! SO PROUD!

    • @shadydays3
      @shadydays3 Před rokem +43

      WOO YOU’VE COME SO FAR!!!! ❤❤

    • @dar-nakkallig
      @dar-nakkallig Před rokem +33

      Yes, we can believe it because this is (at least) your second time here... Congrats, and best of luck with your theories...

    • @Hoglet.
      @Hoglet. Před rokem +19

      Not Live*l

  • @bellapinky6535
    @bellapinky6535 Před rokem +5433

    you know you're in way too deep into this franchise when you can actually understand what they're talking about 💀💀💀

    • @Evie0h
      @Evie0h Před rokem +386

      I feel like one of those people who can say “I speak a bit of that language, but barely enough to get by, very broken, and I can’t read it”

    • @laurenbee6340
      @laurenbee6340 Před rokem +39

      I feel the same

    • @BuckerydogSchmuckeryDog
      @BuckerydogSchmuckeryDog Před rokem +75

      I'm not nearly fluent enough. I'm fluent up until vr and then it throws me.

    • @EdSessions
      @EdSessions Před rokem +42

      i feel the same as you. most my days now are just Matpat.

    • @raftman4510
      @raftman4510 Před rokem +7

      Ong 😭

  • @justinabean94
    @justinabean94 Před rokem +534

    John’s “I did it first” bit made me cackle harder than it should of. Bless all of these theory boys for giving us buckets of fnaf fever dreams 💖

  • @laotasurfs1110
    @laotasurfs1110 Před rokem +230

    "She's fighting against the programing versus the spirit who possesses her." Scott demonstrated that confusion a bit all the way back in Sister Location, when Baby tells the story of Elizabeth's death. Can you imagine having that memory, btw? Of being both the innocent child who died horribly *and* the machine that killed her?

  • @bradybaker5345
    @bradybaker5345 Před rokem +1532

    FuhNaff yelling stay with me is such a vibe when it comes to theory crafting lmao 🤣.

  • @leticiagregorio5823
    @leticiagregorio5823 Před rokem +1803

    Mat goes on a tangent and Tom just looks so damn happy about it. That's friendship...

    • @DorkyWolf
      @DorkyWolf Před rokem +47

      Matt and Tom's friendship makes me think of my friendship with my best friend every time I see them interact

    • @redwiltshire1816
      @redwiltshire1816 Před rokem +20

      That’s not friendship that’s love lol

    • @Val-ek2pj
      @Val-ek2pj Před rokem +7

      @@redwiltshire1816 Ya know that friendship also requires love, right? (°з°)

    • @redwiltshire1816
      @redwiltshire1816 Před rokem +1

      @@Val-ek2pj I don’t think you understand the joke

    • @Val-ek2pj
      @Val-ek2pj Před rokem

      @@redwiltshire1816 okay, sweetheart ❤(^ω~)❤

  • @eagleowl833
    @eagleowl833 Před rokem +800

    I love how this isn't a competition for them, they're not trying to prove themselves right over each other. They are really respectful and kind. Its so nice to see older, more entrenched fnaf youtubers collaborating with and helping a very promising new youtuber like John grow his channel and audience. Wholesome 100❤

    • @spudsbuchlaw
      @spudsbuchlaw Před rokem +77

      There is no competition where they're all hopelessly lost in the lore

    • @eagleowl833
      @eagleowl833 Před rokem +30

      @@spudsbuchlaw yup, they have all lost their sanity

    • @piperdudman149
      @piperdudman149 Před rokem +1

      SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @keynoctis
      @keynoctis Před rokem +4

      Big improvement from the first videos of this series! When it was just matpat watching fuhnaff's vid. It's nice to see matpat include him and treat him more like an equal.

  • @mishayeah227
    @mishayeah227 Před rokem +141

    I love John going crazy at the beginning "I don't know what to believe anymore. Matpat help" it's such a mood

  • @ArcaneChipmunk
    @ArcaneChipmunk Před rokem +1609

    I love how John cheekily suggested coming over to sit on the couch. I can imagine him taking out a list and being ready to cross that off his bucket list 😂

    • @tashabeck4121
      @tashabeck4121 Před rokem +69

      Because it’s also on all of ours 😂😂

    • @eowynbryken1284
      @eowynbryken1284 Před rokem +47

      in his livestream the other day he mentioned possibly flying out to see matpat in January 👀👀

    • @sarahlethbridge7786
      @sarahlethbridge7786 Před rokem +25

      Yeah and is it just me or why does John look like the son of Markiplier and Matpat

    • @BubbIyash
      @BubbIyash Před rokem +1

      @@sarahlethbridge7786 ehhh i can see it but can’t at the same time lol

    • @sarahlethbridge7786
      @sarahlethbridge7786 Před rokem

      @@BubbIyash understandable but it just seems right. I mean he looks so similar to Mark and he's making theories on fnaf like matpat

  • @CreepyGuy98
    @CreepyGuy98 Před rokem +3383

    Glad to see Fuhnaff collaborate with smaller creators

  • @AshChiCupcak
    @AshChiCupcak Před rokem +740

    This is the most wholesome Collab I've ever seen matpat do. The amount of respect they have for each other is admirable and I know this whole thing meant the world to FuhNaff.

  • @nuggetoftruth865
    @nuggetoftruth865 Před rokem +1604

    MatPat and crew are the only guys who can take 6 minutes of content and turn it into a nearly hour-long video, and have me hooked the whole time. Love this channel!

  • @Sleeper_6875
    @Sleeper_6875 Před rokem +482

    Can you make occasional guest style episodes like this more often? They’re really fun. Maybe you could have rye toast or another fnaf theorist on, or a different topic

    • @caril.9384
      @caril.9384 Před rokem +19

      Yess Toast

    • @Annnoura
      @Annnoura Před rokem +15

      When there's not much going on with FNAF it's a good way to get have some FNAF content too.

    • @CraftyMaelyss
      @CraftyMaelyss Před rokem +4

      *Fellow genderfluid spotted*
      Also fully agree, guest videos are awesome as they bring in new perspectives and the banter between everyone is pretty fun too :)

    • @Sleeper_6875
      @Sleeper_6875 Před rokem

      @@CraftyMaelyss cool pfp!!

  • @loser_geek_weebever2807
    @loser_geek_weebever2807 Před rokem +247

    I love how elevated their conversations can get because of how much knowledge they all have! Like Fuhnaff just pulling voice actor names off the top of his head was seriously impressive. love this!!!

  • @ermawagnor8947
    @ermawagnor8947 Před rokem +148

    I adore how John subtlety stands up for him self and his theories when may starts talking to long off the video!!! That’s amazing that he’s able to do that with someone who holds such a strong importance to people and your line of work 🥳

  • @EnderiteTime
    @EnderiteTime Před rokem +227

    I love how MatPat can make a 50 minute video of a 6 minute part of a 16 minute video

  • @littykitty040
    @littykitty040 Před rokem +150

    This is all building up to John becoming an honorary member of Team Theorist

  • @AceFaz
    @AceFaz Před rokem +571

    While answering the survey questions, a few things stood out to me.
    1. I saw the same faces multiple times throughout the survey.
    2. Some of the photos didn't seem real, they looked like AI generated images.
    I'm not sure what the video is gonna be, but I Highly recommend everyone checks it out, because it is Very interesting.

    • @JustAHuman101
      @JustAHuman101 Před rokem +8

      SAME

    • @technogiri27
      @technogiri27 Před rokem +46

      If you paid attention, you would notice it's not the exact same image for example in one of the photos the shirt was put on more neatly instead of having their shoulder be shown

    • @AceFaz
      @AceFaz Před rokem +17

      @@technogiri27 yes, I know. But it was still the same face- even though other small things were different.

    • @cameronmyers3973
      @cameronmyers3973 Před rokem +32

      if you havent taken the quiz do it before reading this commet
      i love that they put thier own faces in there. i wasnt sure if toms photo was really him because he didnt have glasses but then i saw dan and and knew it was tom before

    • @JustAHuman101
      @JustAHuman101 Před rokem +38

      @@cameronmyers3973 I know, I gave everyone a 1-4 and then I gave Stephanie a 10 😂

  • @Masqueraide
    @Masqueraide Před rokem +102

    I never had a problem needing to use stuff in the books to connect the dots during the game, I'm just glad Matt and co always explain what's happening in the books to help the missing pieces the games aren't covering.

    • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
      @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Před rokem +10

      Bingo, the games just don't really work without additional material to fill in the blanks. Otherwise it's just a bunch of lore that goes absolutely nowhere with no answers.

    • @pdd5793
      @pdd5793 Před rokem +2

      for me, the problems with the novels theories is that the books have SO MUCH strange things that if some of them are related to the games, the others that are completely unbelievable must in some sense be too (like robots that can bleed).
      but i agree that some connections with the novels are necessary for the lore to start to make sense

  • @5ome5tranger
    @5ome5tranger Před rokem +40

    Oh that ending was super wholesome and totally a deserved ending for this series

  • @MREmrdzcn
    @MREmrdzcn Před rokem +655

    The Uncanny Valley feeling those faces give is on another level. Were there fully AI generated people there or just AI replicating existing photos?

    • @littykitty040
      @littykitty040 Před rokem +119

      I think it has to do with the images being mirrored rather than AI generated.

    • @morganaballinger5531
      @morganaballinger5531 Před rokem +74

      It was more like they mirrored the faces. Like both sides were the left side or both the right. Trying to make their faces symmetrical.

    • @AniketPatil-nk1vw
      @AniketPatil-nk1vw Před rokem +41

      I also think it was something to do with mirroring of faces that make them feel off somehow.

    • @mayo5236
      @mayo5236 Před rokem +42

      I think some of them are AI-generated, some of them are real people but mirrored, and some of them are just normal photos of real people (like Steph's)

    • @morganaballinger5531
      @morganaballinger5531 Před rokem +54

      @@mayo5236 and I think we can all agree that steph is beautiful 😂 but the one of mats face mirrored was so unsettling 😂

  • @piperz_o
    @piperz_o Před rokem +208

    fuhnaff really do be making matpat work

  • @ardentswain2274
    @ardentswain2274 Před rokem +51

    John's face at 43:09 when Matpat pauses it before the video gets through the part he wanted lmao

  • @aprilderg7241
    @aprilderg7241 Před rokem +72

    I'm actually really happy that john made it onto game theory because i think he thinks about these things in a much differnet way, and i think it could bring a huge breath of fresh air and really let GT bloom further. I am very excited to see more colabs and, like he himself said, maybe even joins on the couch. I have a good feeling about the future of GT :}

  • @jocosejpeg
    @jocosejpeg Před rokem +138

    Another important detail of note in the Fury's Rage spin-off is the fact that Scraptrap is just sort of... casually chilling in the background of one of the levels. He doesn't draw any attention to himself, he's just hunched over in an alleyway and cannot be interacted with by the player. Maybe this relates to the (honestly really irritating) idea that Henry's fire in the Pizza Sim didn't work and Afton's physical body didn't entirely die?

    • @butterflywarrioredits
      @butterflywarrioredits Před rokem +15

      That is really interesting, just tome small problems. William’s body is pretty gone at this point since we see a lot more bone but not a ton of muscle and tendons. In burntrap’s model there’s more muscle and tendons instead of more bones. Also he has one of his arms back and the spring lock suit isn’t as degraded and scraptrap. There being more suit could be due to Vanny disassembling glamrock Bonnie and using him for part, but you can’t just regrow your arm unless that’s a property that remnant can do. But if that was a property his actual body would be in a more well condition than a rotting, degrading corpse fused to a animatronic.

    • @sokaize
      @sokaize Před rokem +3

      @@butterflywarrioredits could be using another's body, like Michael's or Henry's?

    • @butterflywarrioredits
      @butterflywarrioredits Před rokem +2

      @@sokaize maybe. But how would it still be stuck in the spring Bonnie suit?

  • @survivordave
    @survivordave Před rokem +170

    YES YOU'RE FINALLY TALKING ABOUT THE VOICE ACTORS! I've always thought the casting might possibly be significant.

  • @nightmares9751
    @nightmares9751 Před rokem +42

    i love how tom sometimes says stuff that sound so normal like i could say that in a everyday conversation and in reality it is the most crazy think

  • @mackthisarrowhearth295
    @mackthisarrowhearth295 Před rokem +66

    I love how gutsy John is, yet very humble

  • @Kalise1d
    @Kalise1d Před rokem +302

    THIS IS PERFECT TIMING I LITERALLY JUST FINISHED WATCHING HIS 12 HR CHARITY STREAM 3 MINS AGO!! Can’t wait to watch this :)

    • @MiloMurphysLaw
      @MiloMurphysLaw Před rokem +10

      For a second I was like “what???? Did MatPat do another charity stream this year and I missed it!?!?!?!?!?!?”

    • @Tobylake-jt6gu
      @Tobylake-jt6gu Před rokem +3

      @@MiloMurphysLaw oh my god Milo Murthy

    • @Kalise1d
      @Kalise1d Před rokem

      @@MiloMurphysLaw one sorry I scared you I meant John’s! I didn’t catch it live but it’s such a good watch:)

  • @paradoxkait
    @paradoxkait Před rokem +169

    Happy birthday to FNAF Security Breach! Despite how long ago this game came out, it’s part of a series that made many of our childhoods and still make up our lives!

    • @nintandrew13
      @nintandrew13 Před rokem +8

      Wow, can't believe it's been a year already. Remember seeing the trailers slowly revealing the date. Now gotta wait for the Ruin DLC sometime next year

  • @luvpazi
    @luvpazi Před rokem +19

    the fact that john grew up with game theory and now he’s in a video with matpat made me emotional 🥲

  • @raeannahoskinson2699
    @raeannahoskinson2699 Před rokem +110

    Theory: The survey is for a video about the uncanny valley, most likely the Mandela Catalogue. The faces you used, albeit some random ones thrown in for flavor, were either normal or mirrored on the left or right, creating a slight uncanny valley effect (thanks guys, it freaked me out). You added the photo of Steph as both a control and to make us think that all the photos are real people, in case any of them were AI generated. Can't wait to see the video, thanks for letting us take part!

    • @auramaster8763
      @auramaster8763 Před rokem +7

      Honestly, I wasn't going to say it. But yeah I think you're right. Some of the faces felt off. Others were rather normal.

    • @kaiperkins9292
      @kaiperkins9292 Před rokem +9

      I was actually thinking it was a way of showing how humans belief of attraction changes depending on the given options as seen with the repeat people. So you might have given someone a 4 in the beginning but after seeing a bunch of distorted faces you might see them as an 8 instead. But that's just a theory, a SPYCH THEORY! Thanks for reading
      (I'm sorry I've wanted to do that for a while)

    • @austinelder4532
      @austinelder4532 Před rokem +2

      ​@@kaiperkins9292 I wondered about that myself. I mentioned it in my survey comment as well, just to try to share any potential biases or anything that could skew have skewed my answers, whether that was the intended goal of the survey or not.

    • @purrpletiger2159
      @purrpletiger2159 Před rokem +2

      @@kaiperkins9292 Yeah I noticed that, but also some of the repeated photos were slightly edited to be more or less uncanny like mat's head was less wide in his second appearance lol

    • @Yassified_Shoto_Todoroki_
      @Yassified_Shoto_Todoroki_ Před rokem +2

      I just realised I rated everyone 5 or under 😭

  • @laurasongsings858
    @laurasongsings858 Před rokem +414

    Theory related to the form: It is testing whether humans seem more attracted to faces that are not AI-generated/seem to recognize non-AI-generated images more.

    • @krcmaine
      @krcmaine Před rokem +80

      I was thinking it had to do with uncanny valley...images were manipulated...so I'm picking up what you're putting down. 👍

    • @vpurble
      @vpurble Před rokem +13

      i was thinking about that as well as the other comment about the uncanny valley.

    • @hells_avocado5038
      @hells_avocado5038 Před rokem +58

      The images are actually mirrored, you can see it in the lighting on a few of them :)

    • @bunnwitxh9857
      @bunnwitxh9857 Před rokem +16

      I was thinking it might be somehow related to analog horror as it is something that happens in a lot of them that Matpat has covered recently, last i can remember about him calling it out was in the FNAF VHS TAPES, could be wrong though

    • @crazynachos4230
      @crazynachos4230 Před rokem +11

      And now you have tainted the dataset because people will be looking for it

  • @Rulaylay
    @Rulaylay Před rokem +137

    I never played any of these games but I am truly invested in the theories 😂

    • @Evie0h
      @Evie0h Před rokem +3

      Haha same!! But maybe I can say I’ve played one, not sure how much it counts though lmao, my siblings and I used to have kindle fire tablets in 2014 and my older brother had Fnaf 2! I opened the game a few times and I’m not sure if I ever finished the first night, as I was 9-10 and didn’t understand what horror games or fnaf were lol!

    • @Rulaylay
      @Rulaylay Před rokem +1

      @@Evie0h literally online watched let’s plays

    • @sirgideonofnir6840
      @sirgideonofnir6840 Před rokem +4

      Same, I never touched any of the games, but I love watching every one of these fnaf videos

    • @emapocubayova4763
      @emapocubayova4763 Před rokem

      Same, lol

    • @geetamsingh7219
      @geetamsingh7219 Před rokem

      Same here, tried long back but it really didn't feel that great while playing... Matpat has been like free marketing for this franchise...

  • @TheSecretman82
    @TheSecretman82 Před rokem +5

    19:05 It also didn't help that IN SECURITY BREACH, we had Sun and Moon, which IS a Jekyll and Hyde situation. So, we do establish that a Jekyll and Hyde situation is a possibility to further muddy the waters of "Is Vanny actually Vanessa, or are they 2 different people completely."

  • @AesWhole
    @AesWhole Před rokem +10

    I think John is the perfect feature guest for GT live. Not someone to become a part of the team, but pop in every now and then with his own unique ideas and perspective to share with the team and the community, like an outside investigator. I'm excited to see him show up in more videos and maybe even on the couch one day 👀

  • @keithshaughnessy1730
    @keithshaughnessy1730 Před rokem +90

    I've always wondered why Vanessa would leave prerecorded messages for Gregory after catching him if she was also Vanny. When she grabbed him and he apparently passed out, why not just finish him off then, or why run around as Vanessa to begin with? I've pretty much always been working on the assumption they were two different people, or at least two different personalities.

    • @everforward5561
      @everforward5561 Před rokem +2

      Just dying doesn't create Remnant-worthy material. They have to have pain and anguish.

    • @mobiusflammel9372
      @mobiusflammel9372 Před rokem +5

      @@everforward5561 then she could’ve taken him elsewhere and tortured him or whatever else after she caught him if that was what she had to do.

    • @generallyunimportant
      @generallyunimportant Před rokem +1

      @@mobiusflammel9372 i'm pretty sure if that was atleast implied in the game he wouldn't be able to publish it lmao

    • @gulox8241
      @gulox8241 Před rokem

      But have we seen both of them at the same time i mean Vann-y and Vann-essa ?

  • @kzillajr
    @kzillajr Před rokem +169

    Here's an idea: What if the Glitchtrap Virus has been around a lot longer than we thought? What if it predates the previous games? Could Jeremy having been infected by the virus have something to do with why his name shows up several times throughout the previous games?
    If I'm not mistaken, Tape Girl says that the circuit boards were old, meaning they could have more influence over the previous games than we originally assumed. We've been treating them as if they're new, because they're a new concept, but we really don't know how long they've existed.
    Here's a wild theory: What if the virus is what created the 8-Bit minigames, making those scenes canon because they are the glimpses of truth in an otherwise fictional game created by an indie developer? It always struck me as odd that you effectively have games within games, especially if those minigames are only there to provide information on past events.
    Also, it's possible that the reason some names get reused is simply because of something that happens in the real world all the time. Sometimes developers name characters after their friends, family, and pets. It's possible that the indie developer has more of a connection to the teams that make the other games.

    • @nuhuh2414
      @nuhuh2414 Před rokem +20

      stop wait that actually makes so much sense, i hope matpat or some other fnaf theorist sees your comment and explores it further

    • @immywood8610
      @immywood8610 Před rokem +2

      Wait. I can’t read. This is mean.

    • @Jig_up
      @Jig_up Před rokem

      @@immywood8610 *𝘋𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘯𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳 𝘷𝘰𝘪𝘤𝘦
      (Speaking): Any better? I can try and give a TL;DR, if you would like

    • @DisgruntledArtist
      @DisgruntledArtist Před rokem +2

      Here's the real twist: What if Glitchtrap wasn't created *by* Afton, but rather is the thing that turned him into a monster?

    • @piiapanelle
      @piiapanelle Před rokem

      ​@@DisgruntledArtist woah

  • @factual-fantasy2762
    @factual-fantasy2762 Před rokem +10

    Hearing Mat praise John for his theories and having him being so honored he's almost speechless is the best thing XD

  • @user-cc9kr1fn5j
    @user-cc9kr1fn5j Před rokem +8

    I love how Matpat's like "oh you should be able to finish the survey for about 5-10mins", diva, I took about 20mins to answer the survey because of how EERIE and SCARY they all look.
    But I am quite interested to know about this next theory that's about to come out. More power to you all!

  • @brothercuber3288
    @brothercuber3288 Před rokem +55

    Can't wait to see an hour analysis of a 6 minute portion of a video

    • @devonwatson4385
      @devonwatson4385 Před rokem

      Wait, wait, wait! It's only the last 6 minutes of a 20 minute episode that they are discussing for an hour, lol.

    • @brothercuber3288
      @brothercuber3288 Před rokem

      @@devonwatson4385 right changed it

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 Před rokem +511

    Theory Suggestion: Can A Night Guard Actually Last from 12am to 6am in FNAF?

    • @uzuwi9782
      @uzuwi9782 Před rokem +25

      thats kinda obvious, they just need to stay awake for 6 hours

    • @dankmemer6576
      @dankmemer6576 Před rokem +41

      If one can survive in school for 6hrs when it's boring af, why not night shift?

    • @Freddyfazballs93
      @Freddyfazballs93 Před rokem +56

      @@dankmemer6576 the adrenaline will definately keep him awake if not anything else

    • @jordandrinkwater1345
      @jordandrinkwater1345 Před rokem +13

      That might be a question Ex Blue can answer. He made a 1 to 1 recreation of the first FNAF game.

    • @AceFaz
      @AceFaz Před rokem +14

      @@jordandrinkwater1345 so did Matpat...

  • @mayo5236
    @mayo5236 Před rokem +8

    Matt connecting his Glitch Trap theory to Among Us is very unexpected lol

  • @michaelcelestin1392
    @michaelcelestin1392 Před rokem +13

    I love how this hours long dive into FNAF lore ended with a wholesome message about smart consumerism.

  • @TheSamTheSame
    @TheSamTheSame Před rokem +41

    I think its important to note that some animatronics can mimic voices and anyone could be in Vanny's bunny suit.

    • @DannyNoLove17
      @DannyNoLove17 Před rokem +7

      Sure but you also see Vanessa in the suit in various endings in the game

    • @forkalamari6093
      @forkalamari6093 Před rokem +4

      @@DannyNoLove17 yes, BUT we see Vanessa and Vanny being separate people in a certain ending soooo idk

  • @RedstoneRailroadRR
    @RedstoneRailroadRR Před rokem +23

    I get where Mat points out that we can't attribute a lot of narrative purpose to Tape Girl, given that she is meant to be more of a character who lacks any individual traits. I mean all we know is she does VR testing, is female, and coding. Not her age, name, values, motives, etc. Yet it seems odd that Glitchtrap would actively not possess her or anyone else, until Vanessa.
    What we also don't really understand is if Glitchtrap is truly "downloading" himself into the victims. Its unusual that we seem to swap places with with, indicating that we lose ALL control and give up our body forever; meanwhile, Vannessa seems to have a Jekyl & Hyde situation. Nor does Vanny seem to act on her own, needing guidance from a different version of glitchtrap. Maybe we don't have several iterations of afton making a cult, but Afton is rewiring peoples minds to his needing? We see Jeremy cracks under the pressure, so Afton learns to lessen the intensity on his victims and create a case like Vanessa. Where the host's mind isn't completely broken, but still usable to his purpose (essentially a drone for him when he requires, think Russian Sleeper Agents).
    Another question is that in FNAF VR is related to the player's role. Are we Vannessa in the game? I mean if we complete the game and get possessed, are we essentially just seeing what Vanessa does? Or are we another iteration / drone for Afton? So at the minimum we have 3 hosts?
    One last question. Why does Afton seem to bond to female hosts better? We are unsure if Afton possesses another male after Jeremy's death. Yet, if we compare this to typical ghost lore or ideas, a spirit will try its hardest to find a body or make one to resemble its original. So wouldn't he naturally feel at home in male hosts? Can female minds withstand the virus strain better (not crack under the pressure)? Do we have a virus robot harem? We see Afton try to rebuild his original body, so it proves that his goal is to get as close to his original form as possible. Yet he chooses Vanny to be his vessel? I mean Vanessa, Vanny, and Tape Girl might all contain their own version of the virus. Could the virus only download a portion of Afton's life to a vessel? Vanessa reflects on his days as a guard and trying to be the "boss" aka run the mall alone? Vanny is his killing impulse? Tape Girl is the portion that loves to manipulate people (like luring children or keeping Henry in the dark)?

  • @greenerscenery
    @greenerscenery Před rokem +12

    Watching John's videos and the subsequent GTLive react ones has pulled me back into the franchise after I basically gave up on it. Love love love these videos!!!

  • @GamingWolfGod
    @GamingWolfGod Před rokem +3

    Jeremy slicing his face off could be one of two things the way I view it.
    Either (A) he was trying to resist Glitchtraps control via extreme pain, this is often a trope used in bodysnatching/mind control stories.
    Or (B) Glitchtrap hit the gas too hard and attempted to force a possession instead of taking a backseat. This could've lead Jeremy to go crazy and he potentially started to see his own face as Glitchtraps, so he cut it off.

  • @mary_hiii6051
    @mary_hiii6051 Před rokem +36

    I just woke up today clicked this video and the first thing in the morning that has made me laugh my head of is “YOU GOT THAT DREAM ANGLE!”😂

  • @zech2702
    @zech2702 Před rokem +223

    Im guessing the initial survey was about symmetrical vs asymmetrical faces. Very creepy faces regardless 🤣

    • @Chlorine5572
      @Chlorine5572 Před rokem +21

      I thought it might be about AI pictures. But that is also a good observation….I also should’ve changed my…nope Matpat should always be 10 because he is the channel

    • @zech2702
      @zech2702 Před rokem +8

      @Chlorinestrip i gave him like a 1 or 2 just to annoy him

    • @Alexkralie
      @Alexkralie Před rokem +3

      I thought it was AI

    • @jaceisms2834
      @jaceisms2834 Před rokem

      @@zech2702did the same thing-

    • @voxsvoxs4261
      @voxsvoxs4261 Před rokem +1

      yeah I noticed that aswell, wonder if it affected how we answered

  • @finlaywatson1168
    @finlaywatson1168 Před rokem +14

    In a previous video, you guys said in the books Charlie had a twin brother that got kidnapped by Afton only to be revealed later on that it was actually another robot version of Charlie that was. Let’s say that in the game lore there was a kidnapping of a boy to only for it to be revealed that it was Charlie. In The Immortal and the Restless the couple has an argument whether the kid is the father’s or not. If the father is supposed to be William Afton, the baby could either be Michael or the crying child. If the vampire father is correct when saying “the baby isn’t mine” maybe it’s because he kidnapped the baby from Henry so he knows it’s not his. What if the baby was the crying child, which may explain why Afton monitored and tortured him with the nightmares. However, if you consider that the first three games were just games in the lore, that must mean FNAF 4 didn’t happen as depicted. In Security Breach, there’s multiple references to Charlie and not many for crying child. You can find on a door Charlie sick in the FNAF 4 bed that the crying child should be in. There’s also the small door/closet that most likely is a reference to the small closet where child Charlie was kept. Where else is closets seen in FNAF? FNAF 4 with the crying child; a game that isn’t completely true. MatPat said previously that he grapples with the idea of the existence of crying child, whether he’s real or not. I believe he didn’t exist and was a cover story for the kidnapping of robot Charlie as seen in the book. I also think child Charlie is going to play a big role in the new release in 2023 as there were too many references to that version of Charlie without her appearing as a character in Security Breach. FuhNaff pointed out in the graphic novel in one picture you can see Charlie holding a robot child sized head with blonde pigtails that looks almost identical to the little girl seen on the 2023 poster. If that girl was the child version of Charlie it would explain why she’s the only one in grey as she is lifeless or metallic as a robot would. Anyway those are my theories/predictions, what does everyone else think?

  • @genof1erce763
    @genof1erce763 Před rokem +3

    I love this trio so much, it is always a delight to see these 3 try to piece a confusing game like this together. I would love to see you do more together!

  • @antidotebrain69
    @antidotebrain69 Před rokem +75

    I love how Matpat sounds like a proud father 😍

  • @Cmacpride1
    @Cmacpride1 Před rokem +20

    From a voice acting standpoint, I believe voice actors can only voice 3 characters before they have to be paid more (as an extra actor or some other additional fee). So many studios try to have their Voice actors voice as many characters to save money.

    • @BizzMRK
      @BizzMRK Před rokem +5

      atleast in the case of scott cawthon he is the type of guy that uses specific text color hexcodes to differentiate characters in his games so using a shortcut when it comes to voice actors seems odd.

    • @marijnlastname3132
      @marijnlastname3132 Před rokem

      @@BizzMRK isn’t a Scott game anymore sadly, when a game is handled by a company. It becomes pretty likely

  • @zold9896
    @zold9896 Před rokem +5

    One thing that seems to point to “Gregory can see Vannie under the earpiece frequency means he’s not a robot” not being true is that Charlie is still aware of herself even after she uses it

  • @bee-kf5jd
    @bee-kf5jd Před rokem +2

    I'm so happy to watch the banter and just see how much more relaxed and in tune everyone is after just one video it's like they're already best friends

  • @BubbliPeachyMae
    @BubbliPeachyMae Před rokem +48

    Tom mentioning Jekyll and hyde is really significant to consider - hyde came from jekyll, they share a soul, but is distinctly their own individual in the appearance, approaches, decisions, body - BUT after time the balance shifts and the changes are more frequent. Could this be the case for Vanessa/vanny? It lines up with the vanny meter, explains if vannessa showed vanny behaviours. It blurs the line of clear behaviours of Vanessa or vanny.

  • @qwertious
    @qwertious Před rokem +178

    "We have 6 minutes left. We have 40 minutes to finish this video, can we make it?"
    Nope, 53 minutes.
    Edit: AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN FINISH IT

    • @heatherfeather7199
      @heatherfeather7199 Před rokem +3

      I KNOW!!! I want to know what else was left in John’s analysis before MatPat signed out. Golly.

  • @diamondjackdaw
    @diamondjackdaw Před rokem +4

    Just did the survey! I'm so excited to see the theory when it comes out. Also I've really been enjoying this series; your discussion/breakdown of John's videos has been great, and it's even more exciting to have him here to react alongside you! Always delighted to see the FNAF Boys pop up in my recommended feed.

  • @mariatserpe8730
    @mariatserpe8730 Před rokem +4

    Oh my god that survey felt like psychological torture, some of the faces legit made my skin melt from how high in danger I felt when looked upon by them

  • @tora5054
    @tora5054 Před rokem +10

    That face test was...freaky. Felt like a dating simulation from Mandela catalogue lol.

  • @pabloquinonez8679
    @pabloquinonez8679 Před rokem +18

    I just want to say, I'm honestly happy about being able to be part of a theory lol (plus, that survey actually showed me I'm attracted to a kind I didn't really think I was lol, so you know, interesting) thanks for the videos Theoris team! They're always amazing!

  • @williamgoren
    @williamgoren Před rokem +8

    i like how john makes a video today as the same day as this so mat always has something to review and tom is just chilling

  • @mukaruto6592
    @mukaruto6592 Před rokem +2

    I actually have a theory for the illusion disk and the eyes that might make sense. I think vanny, whoever she may be, was fully ready to kidnap/murder/whatever you Gregory, but with Freddy being free from glitchtraps possession, posed a threat. She works on making an illusion disk that only works against Freddy as Gregory isn't a threat and the other animatronics are on her side. She does a test run *her prancing in front of the recharge* and confirms it worked by hearing Gregory and Freddy discussing it. When Freddy gets Roxy's eyes, either they're able to see through the solution or vannys specially tuned disk simply doesn't work against it. In conclusion: vanny specifically tuned the disk to work against the only threat to her, that being Freddy

  • @Fr0gWizard
    @Fr0gWizard Před rokem +8

    One thing I noticed in the Vanny Ending, is that parts come off in the shadow when the bots disassemble Freddy but there's nothing coming off in the shadow on the wall of disassembling Vanny, theres nothing coming off on the staffbot appendages either, whether it's due to the limitations of what they could do with the animation/time. Also would a disassemble command work on a human?

  • @enchantedhero3847
    @enchantedhero3847 Před rokem +8

    0:38 Mark my words. This survey HAS to be linked to the Mandela Catalogue in some way.

  • @gabrote42
    @gabrote42 Před rokem +1

    Finally some good-natured competition! I love this guy, just like I love you guys. Way to go, people!
    36:35 Like Elizabeth does in SL, where Baby remembers both capturing Elizabeth and being killed by Baby AS Elizabeth.

  • @snowway0ut552
    @snowway0ut552 Před rokem +3

    I really hope you guys bring fuhnaff back! This was such a fun series of videos to watch! Ty!

  • @lxciferellixx
    @lxciferellixx Před rokem +30

    The day has arrived.. Our lovable theory teacher has came to a fnaf crisis.

  • @_MrOtto
    @_MrOtto Před rokem +5

    the thing about patient 46 is... what if they're just a character we haven't met yet? It's possible there could be more games after sb or patient 46 could be revealed in ruin, for example: we never knew the true identity of purple guy until sister location. It's entirely possible we're trying to make a "purple guy is phone guy" connection when in reality it's an entirely new character

    • @istvankeri6688
      @istvankeri6688 Před rokem

      While i agree, I gotta say that 46 having so many connections to a lot of characters we already know probably means that 46 is someone or at least a version of someone who's appeared before

    • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
      @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Před rokem

      @@istvankeri6688 I agree, not to mention we didn't learn about Afton because of Sister Location, it was because of the Five Night's book which revealed his name first. If Ruin truly is meant to be a finale for the Afton's it wouldn't really make sense to throw in a new lead character (besides possibly crying child) at the last stretch. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out though regardless.

    • @_MrOtto
      @_MrOtto Před rokem

      @@istvankeri6688 the thing is though, do we have any hard evidence saying they're an already existing character or not? probably not, so maybe perhaps we sohludn't try to solve who patient 46 is, i'm sure it will be revealed in ruin and maybe we weren't supposed to figure it out yet

    • @istvankeri6688
      @istvankeri6688 Před rokem

      @@_MrOtto I mean in this franchise there is very little hard evidence or confirmation. And while I'd like the story to move on from the old characters as much as anyone else, the fact that there are connections between 46 and older characters is important. If 46 was a new character than why the relation to existing characters.
      And also, the way the story is currently going, the Afton story will (hopefully) conclude in Ruin and launch into the next storyarc. It wouldn't make sense to include a brand new character who is seemingly so important to SBs plot, when the storyarc is at it's conclusion.
      And also, even if it's an entirely new character, why shouldn't we try to solve who it is.

  • @rock32256
    @rock32256 Před rokem +5

    FANAF questions
    While watching this video, my Girlfriend and I were driving home and got to discussing some subjects brought up in this video. The most prominent question (I will have to go back and rewatch some videos to make sure this hadn’t been covered) is concerning who Vanny is.
    1: is vanny and Vanessa the same person? Given this video, I think that is unlikely.
    2: is Tape Girl, from VR, Vanny? That is possible because she is already possessed by Glitch Trap at the time of VR
    NOTE: the Vanessa tapes never explicitly state that the suit that was being made fit Vanessa. Maybe, it was for someone else: Tape Girl.
    3: if someone hacked the system to get Vanessa hired, who did it? With Tape Girl being a game tester and was able to hide the tapes that leads to Glitch Trap being “set free” or able to possess one else, it is possible that she may have the skills to hack the hiring system to get Vanessa hired.
    My main problem with this is that if it was hacked and Vanessa was not being considered for the job the owner of the company would have just corrected the issue and not hired Vanessa.
    If I remembered everything we talked about, this brought up a big question.
    Considering that throughout the games, we have always played as a person who is a major player in the story. With Security Breach… we haven’t really figured out where Gregory came from. We play as a “new” person in the series (possibly) the main question is….
    4: is Vanny the FANAF VR protagonist, the character we play as? We know that our character in VR gets possessed by glitch trap in each ending. But we don’t know what happens after. It was brought up that both VR and Security Breach took place around the same time. Considering that fact security breach really kicks off after VR ends. We don’t know where Tape Girl is and we don’t know where our character went. What if the suit that was being made was being made for the VR protagonist (our character)? And the silent patient isn’t Gregory but is the VR Protagonist? That would explain why there isn’t a voice actor. Mathew “Fear” Patrick has stated before and even in his very first video that we are the villain or main character. Over the games we played as Michael Afton following his father to undo what he has done. What if it’s the same here but with a different view point? The character we played as in VR has become the Villain in Security Breach Vanny.
    Finally, 5: in the fire ending ( I have to go look at some photos and other videos) we see the face of Vanessa. What if she is in fact Elenor/Baby? We never see under the body of the costume only just behind the mask. Would we see the pins that baby has? What if the developers didn’t want to spoil it yet and just had Vanessa face as a place holder to keep us guessing while also leading us to the baby/Elenor theory?
    Again, I do plan on going back going over the past videos because some of this may have been cover and I apologize for my brain dump. If I missed something or need to make corrections, I will edit.
    Thank you for your time.
    Paulette

  • @bigjake423
    @bigjake423 Před rokem +5

    Love these streams! Please keep bringing FuhNaff on these streams

  • @porcelainchips6061
    @porcelainchips6061 Před rokem +4

    Sun and Moon need to be explored more with that Arcade game and note in their "room".

    • @maysee2515
      @maysee2515 Před rokem +1

      Every one forgets about sun and moon but they are literally my favorite character (s) in this game. I hope they get something additional later on but it doesn't seem likely sadly.

  • @williamsart
    @williamsart Před rokem +1

    It's interesting that the cd's are split between 46 and 71. But even more interesting is in the cd where vanessa says "im needed somewhere else now" the number is 7146 so maybe they finally fully merched together...

  • @tariqdejager1092
    @tariqdejager1092 Před rokem +1

    I love these reacting to John with John and Matpat and Tom video's! Keep it a series once in a while! :)

  • @amber327
    @amber327 Před rokem +3

    i’d love a bunch more videos like this, watching different theories and talking them through and debating it’d be amazing to see!!!

  • @VolatileVibes
    @VolatileVibes Před rokem +12

    I would love to hear more just talking like this with all of you guys throwing ideas at each other

  • @toshironikko8444
    @toshironikko8444 Před rokem +1

    The cds are invisible to both Gregory and Freddy until you get Roxxy's eyes and even then still invisible to Gregory - has that ever been explained

  • @kayokie
    @kayokie Před rokem +3

    The fact that I’ve never read any of the books but I’m never lost in the conversation says a lot about how much and how many times I’ve watched these theories LOL

  • @mightymouse4661
    @mightymouse4661 Před rokem +629

    Who else gave MatPat a solid 10?

  • @AdamGaffney96
    @AdamGaffney96 Před rokem +7

    I'm doing this survey and my god, this man is doing a video about symmetry in attractiveness isn't he.

  • @KYoung-nj8ri
    @KYoung-nj8ri Před rokem +12

    I 👏 am 👏 loving 👏 this 👏 I'm sooo happy to see my boy fuhnaff breaking theries with Matpat, I'm screaming 😱

  • @marleybucy2605
    @marleybucy2605 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love how John says the whole “When I was 15 I thought Purple Guy was Phone Guy.” Like he has been in the FNaF world for so long, and he went from watching Theories to now being a well known theorist and being on GT Live.
    Time stamp: 23:15

  • @kenzie_is_cool3794
    @kenzie_is_cool3794 Před rokem +8

    the uncanny faces in the survey are kind of scaring me ngl 😪

  • @gingermonster6774
    @gingermonster6774 Před rokem +5

    fair play, matt the way gracefully give john credit where its due. that message at the end was important. thank you all xx

  • @AyMayDayBae
    @AyMayDayBae Před rokem +3

    DAYCARE ATTENDANT THEORY. I think the daycare attendant is a secret that needs solving. who he is, why he exists, etc. the room behind daycare is supposed to be *his room*. it's literally his "backstage". that's where he is before Gregory enters the daycare, he comes out of the little stage window castle thing. the entrance is also in the theatre, and in the book Sun/Moon was supposed to be a performer before being made the Daycare Attendant, so makes sense the old entrance was then hidden. so how can it be the hiding place of someone hiding in the pizzaplex at night, because how would they be living there alongside Sun/Moon without him noticing?
    It's also where you find the Balloon World arcade machine, which the only other characters in it other than balloon boy is the Sun and Moon faces. it's also where you find the last note from whoever was trying to solve the arcade machines, who I believe was probably Luis. The machine (afaik?) doesn't unlock anything, which I know Matt thinks it's because the arcade questline wasn't complete, but what if it's not incomplete? the only reason for it to be there, imo, if it doesn't *do* something, is to *BE* something. *WHAT IF IT'S LORE?*
    My wild guess is Daycare Attendant is, or is linked in some way, to Luis. in Balloon World you play as Balloon Boy chasing the glitches, which is *exactly* what Luis tried to do (if he is the one trying to solve the arcades). if you do it right, it then ends with the eclipsed Sun/Moon face creepily saying "good night". I have a few theories, but the main one is: Luis was using the Daycare Attendant's room during work hours to try and solve the arcades. he gets fired (maybe when all the staff were replaced by the bots?) and so he stays after hours to keep trying to solve them ("just one more night"), and then gets caught by Moon. killed, maybe? absorbed?
    OR. I don't know how Luis somehow *became* him so he could stay at the pizzaplex? Or got "glitched" into becoming him in his quest chasing the glitches. DA *is* one of the more human-shaped animatronics we have...
    Just very odd that there's a lot of links to Luis in that room, the last note of (probably) Luis in his arcade quest, and then the Balloon World being right there, to me, seems very on the nose if you think about it this way. It feels like too many connections to just brush off imo.

    • @AyMayDayBae
      @AyMayDayBae Před rokem +1

      Another random thing, but something about the retro CD tapes I don't think I've seen mentioned before. Vanessa is patient 71, and her last tape is number 46. patient 46's tapes start on number 72. just an odd coincidence to me that seems to further point to a connection between the two patients.

  • @omgjacob
    @omgjacob Před rokem +1

    “I don’t think we wanna touch on what defines life” 😂😂😂

  • @shannonfallon668
    @shannonfallon668 Před rokem +3

    Filled out the survey. Love the questions in the beginning to establish traits that can really make a difference in how an individual answers the questions that follow. Hope you got some good quality results!

  • @realnarwhal
    @realnarwhal Před rokem +7

    DUDE THOSE FACES IN THE SURVEY ARE SO SCARY, THEY ARE ALL SO UNCANNY 😭😭😭😭

  • @abaddonarts1129
    @abaddonarts1129 Před rokem +1

    The fact this is almost an HOUR of content for 6 minutes of video has me very excited

  • @tinaherr3856
    @tinaherr3856 Před rokem +2

    New theory: Charlie (in the original novel trilogy) is an Agony being.
    More information if there is someone actually interested

  • @brittabutter
    @brittabutter Před rokem +18

    Ready for another banger from this series 😭 🏃🏻‍♀️

  • @squaretreasure
    @squaretreasure Před rokem +19

    Some of the faces were repeated. Some of the faces had elongated or weird physical traits with their eyes, hair, forehead, etc. some were old and full of wrinkles that felt unnatural. If I didn’t know better I’d say an AI made them. Personally I find beards to look better on guys but someone without a beard can still score a 10. The smile also contributed towards the score.

    • @eli7745
      @eli7745 Před rokem +4

      some of them were mirrored of one side of the face/symmetrical features, the other versions were the original photo

    • @xXBook_DragonXx
      @xXBook_DragonXx Před rokem +7

      The survey said “attractiveness” my gut said “find the alternates.” 😂

    • @maysee2515
      @maysee2515 Před rokem +5

      You say the smile was contributing to the score, but do you mean that positively or negatively cause some of them had smiles that made them look aggressive to me and I actually ranked them lower than I would If they had neutral expressions. One lady looked like she was near snarling at me.

    • @forkalamari6093
      @forkalamari6093 Před rokem +2

      @@xXBook_DragonXx lol fair

  • @EthanBailey-lr2mw
    @EthanBailey-lr2mw Před rokem +1

    ive been watching this channel and others for about 6 years, and i have subbed to this channel and others with 3 different accounts, and matpats channels have changed my life, and I am thankful to be apart of his survey, so, thanks, matpat

  • @Miserybahamut
    @Miserybahamut Před rokem +1

    Every single one of these has been insanely wholesome.

  • @ozzy8066
    @ozzy8066 Před rokem +4

    I feel like the fire escape ending was more of a Metaphor for Vanessa's consciousness, theres not PHYSICALLY two of them, but her consciousness is almost split, one half being controlled by Afton and the other being Her's.

  • @scoobydoo23320
    @scoobydoo23320 Před rokem +5

    I am disappointed Ed Crouse was not a part of the face ranking survey he is a perfect 10/10.

  • @kayokie
    @kayokie Před rokem +2

    I wish this was a regular podcast. Like them theory crafting 😭

  • @movinngroovin3999
    @movinngroovin3999 Před rokem +3

    I'm so glad John was invited to be a part of this. He works hard, produces amazing content, and definitely deserves it. And kudos John for keeping Mat on his toes! 😅 Get this man on the couch!! Also, ya, seeing interaction w/other great content creators like RyeToast would be awesome as well!

  • @obicann8933
    @obicann8933 Před rokem +3

    The fact that video was posted on security breaches anniversary is just perfect