Film Theory: The X-Men Should Be VERY Afraid of Disney!
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Boy oh boy, loyal Theorist, the Disney+ X-Men 97 show was SUCH a banger. We still can't get over how awesome it is to see Wolverine on the small screen AND on the big screen, in Deadpool & Wolverine, this summer. Now we all know the worst X-Men villains like Magneto, Apocalypse, and Sabretooth; but did you know that NONE of them hold up to the worst X-Men villain of all.... Disney!
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Watch Out, X-Men (0:00)
Major Problem 1: Business (4:10)
Major Problem 2: Characters (8:33)
Major Problem 3: Stories (11:22)
Why You Should Care (15:34)
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literally describes Disney to X-Men
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If I remember correctly, I still find it funny that Stan Lee created the X-Men because he was sick and tired to come up with origin stories for each character, so what did Stan do? BAM!!! Mutants and that's it 😂
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Disney has the same energy as the angry spoiled little sibling who can’t share, and would rather break something than give it to someone else
Tbh I'd be perfectly fine with it if Disney became bankrupt or something in 12 hours, the golden age of Disney has been over for quite a while and Disney is hardly even like what it was made to be (it's even to be point it's bordering on hypocrisy if you take into account the intentions of the founder of Disney)
Disney absolutely tanking a show that was going well? They’ve never done that before!
Wait which show did they do it to aside from the xmen?
*cough Owl House cough*
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@@nalday2534Owl house has many mysterious that Dana could have build off of a certain greedy company wasn't pushing them around. She could have built more on Bat Queen, bat queen backstory has so much lore. To this day I still wonder who was Bat Queen for. Btw Bat Queen is a talisman(the things on the staff)
Magneto’s backstory was that he was a Jewish boy who was sent to a death camp during the Holocaust, where his entire family was killed. This formed the background for what he believes and why he acts the way he does.
That his x-gene responded to his cultural desire to gather gold/sheckels to himself and control things?
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6:28 The fact that the x men and fantastic 4 were huge parts of Lego marvel superheroes 1 but were no where in the sequel is just infuriating
I love how this weeks video isn't a theory, it's sort of a mini video essay on what happened to the x-men as of late
But you can go literally anywhere else for that kind of content.
It‘s not even a good essay if I have to be honest.
This would also explain why Spider-man hasn't been allowed to be happy in the comics for the last 15 years
Fair point, however counter argument: Spiderman is never allowed to be happy in the comics or anywhere.😢
A fellow fan calls this Peter Parker's luck.
@@KrisRN23935 this extends to fans, as every series he stars in ends abruptly and horribly
No actually they just hire writers who hate him and gis fans
The Inhumans where not ripoffs of the X-Men until Disney. Half of the similarities came after the X-Men Purge.
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And then the X-Men ripped off the Inhumans with zionist undertones.
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Bro I know. I was just watching the animated shows with them at the time, like Avengers Assembled and I kinda liked them in that show.
Shareholders should NEVER be allowed a single finger on the steering wheel of creative meetings.
That would be illegal look it up
That mentality is what lead to Wonder Woman '84, Rebel Moon, and the Star Wars Prequels. We don't need to kick the producers out and promote the creatives; we need to foster a balance between the two.
@@josephhenderson2538 Those are the results of letting a single creative go unchecked, there are non shareholder options to do that. Like producers, or just not having the writer and director be the same person.
Thats what they doin at disney.... Their shareholders leaving one by one
The corporation, by law, must do all it can to benefit it's shareholders. They can literally be sued if they don't. It creates the perverse incentives we see where companies to absolutely anything they think will benefit their shareholders the most, because they must.
The issue are the laws around corporations. The executives can still make bad decisions, but they will make ones that may hurt us, because they have no legal duty to us or anyone else, only the shareholders.
The X-Men were so big at their peak, they may as well have been their own brand seperate from Marvel.
Honestly, I've always preferred the X-men as their own thing than part of the larger Marvel Universe. It just makes more sense and the roster is large enough that it could be its own thing (as the 2000s movies and most of the animated series show).
"Disney is the biggest villain of X-Men"
Meanwhile the Justice League: first time??
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NO WAY!!! I COULD NEVER BELIEVE THAT DISNEY IS AS PETTY AS REVERSE FLASH!!! HOW COULD THEY BE!?!?!?
Disney is missing one key factor before they can be Reverse Flash: they're too straight
“It was me Gambit. I was the one that gave you the Paul treatment.”
No one should ever be Reverse Flash levels of petty. Shame on you Disney.
I am always one step ahead!
How didn't you know this?
"Some of their characters are... less recognizable."
*Picture of Forget-Me-Not flashes briefly across the screen.*
Hey, I saw what you did there, and your writers are still top-notch and brilliant.
This is not a theory, this is just a history lesson which comic fans have known for quite a while. It's still funny how Disney fixed everything they ruined with the mutants the moment they got their hands on them.
Disney didn't hate the X-Men. They just hated that such a valuable IP was owned by a rival studio.
I was wondering when Film Theory would tackle this topic. I mean, Bob covered this YEARS ago on either "In Bob We Trust" or "The Big Picture" (I forget which) and as a guest writer, it just makes sense that Team Theorist would cover this topic.
And this week is the PERFECT time for it.
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Disney will ruin X-Men too. That is for sure.
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Just people i general should fear Disney.😂 Disney would control the planet if they could 😂😂
@@JB-1138star wars is their only franchise. Mcu and animation are fine
Remember how people kept saying that they purposely kept ruing, (not for them) these franchises yet didn’t connect dots when they said, “they made X thing worse” (not for me). “Companies don’t know what they’re doing”, No they sadly do.
18:30 For some reason I never expected this channel to say something like this
18:38 Lee is on the offense. Hopefully Disney doesn't get a temper tantrum and attempts to sue for defamation.
You know, when I first watched the X-men animated tv show, I looked at my father and said, “I really like morph, he’s cool,”. My father just looked at me after that, with pain in his eyes. R.I.P Morph.
First time it was broadcast I had a similar thought.
One of the few from my youth I still remember, for it didn't shy away from the 'darker' side.
Morph's always been interesting to me. They were the show's OC, they were killed off immediately, then they were brought back, but not really as a member of the team, then they were, and now they're...a knockoff of Spider-Man's Chameleon? I feel for them the most because it really feels like no one knows what to do with them! An outcast among outcasts!
After what happened with the sequel Trilogy in Star Wars I'd be surprised if there was a franchise out there that wasn't afraid of Disney
Inside out 2 theory: riley dies at the end of the movie because of a panic attack and all the events after the panic attack are events in riley's coma
The real X-men's were the friends we made along the way
1:29 The power to control problems
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Was on a X-men marathon awhile ago… I realise the One Piece Devil fruit powers = X-men.
Devil fruit powers I believe were originally randomised, from very vague and anonymous fruit designs to how odd powers were. Only to be retconn and every devil fruit power is “fate”.
In honor of A Quiet Place: Day 1 coming out soon, it would be amazing if you guys did a theory on how loud you have to get before one of the aliens hears you.
I remember when people really wanted the X-Men in the MCU…nowadays they want them far away cuz people don’t want them to be ruined
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Because much like Disney, you don't want people you don't like to be able to use characters you like.
Just because the video has Disney as a focal point doesn't mean that fans with your mindset aren't the reason this was allowed to go on to begin with. You guys also refuse to accept new takes and new content. For everything good the fans have done, we have also played our part in making this mess and people need to acknowledge how lazy and short sided as we were
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Oh, this is an interesting point 🤔
if all of Disney banning X-Men's merch is real, that could explain why Marvel vs Capcom Infinity didn't get to star the X-Men only to push MCU characters and also why only now MvC games are surging from their graveyard in the latest Nintendo Direct
That's 100% what happened.
Yeah... It was an open secret during it's entire, very short lifespan
Honestly the worst part about that was they kinda lied that the X-Men would appear later as DLC. Granted, I only said "kinda" because the game did pretty poor in sales so any future plans for that game were scrapped, so we'll never know if that was ever gonna hold true.
@@kongk4 I'd like to give Capcom the benefit of the doubt that they were working behind the scenes to try to convince Marvel to let them use X-men characters, but that it just wasn't going to happen until after Marvel crushed Fox
@@robertstull8759 I mean the "lie" was from Feige IIRC, and his statement about it was probably the first hint of Disney's Fox acquisition, which was properly announced three months after Infinite's release. So maybe they were hopeful to release them as DLC in 2019.
But to me that... is pretty unrealistic, even if Infinite did great in sales, the budget and return investment were mostly going towards the licensing. It would've had to outdo Capcom's Monster Hunter series to commit for that long.
Idk, maybe Shadow Manipulation. Having control over A Army of Shadows sounds cool
Is it just me or has it been a while since I last saw a film theory.
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7:10 You left out a big detail. Disney OWNS 21st Century Fox and its assets. And this has been since 2019.
Being someone that's collected X-men comics since the mid 80s I've witnessed Disney's attempts at destroying the X-men first hand, especially thru the comics and it's been so frustrating. Now that they own these characters I see the pathetic attempt to rectify their damage.
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I...I don't know. I'm still on the fence
@@smugjug3 His Godzilla x Kong theory just didn't sit right with me. It felt flawed and innacurate, as if not enough attention was given to the movie when watching it. All this to say, me too
@@dewey_montana I've also noticed that viewership on all the channels is dropping. That's not a good thing, only time any of them get at least a million it's game theory, and even then it's not much a million at least
1:27 "What would your mutant power be?" - The ability to not be put on the spot with random questions.
Fun fact, I use a similar answer to that most hated question of "Give us one interesting fact about yourself?"
In honor of A Quiet Place: Day 1 coming out soon, it would be amazing if you guys did a theory on how loud you have to get before one of the aliens hears you. 5:22
This isn’t a theory, it’s just a history lesson. Everybody who has any kind of behind the scenes knowledge on movies and/or comics already knows this.
So? I don't inhale Marvel and learned a lot. Also, I appreciated the messaging at the end of the video.
@@Tatman2TheResQ it's more like if you were an xmen fan you were pretty much aware of this and disney's creep moves against them.
@@feuryie Isn't that basically what I said...?
The theory channels' viewers are known to watch videos on a large range of topics they might not already know about. Like me. I didn't know any of this. So it's perfect for that section of the audience
I came here for this comment. How is it a theory? It’s history.
Not to mention that Disney destroyed Marvel VS Capcom series with Infinite (not that Capcom don't share the blame). I'm getting a physical copy of MvC collection just to make sure they couldn't take it back ever again from me.
Either psyonics(Professor X's), litterally the powers of the Electric Company(2000s/2010s), or a copying ability.
...that's probably in order of least likely to most likely...
Oddly enough, mutants could be the answer that Disney/Marvel Studios needed to get "Blade" out of its developmental funk.
It's not that tough -- Blade finds vampires, he fights them, he ends them, and moves on. But... what if there were a REALLY old vampire? And.. what if said vampire were a mutant?
One exists -- her name is Selene.
Just have the Daywalker deal with Selene and her army. This movie would be the bridge between the Midnight Suns (you know they're gonna make a movie with them) and the X-Men.
That would work
But this wasn’t a Disney directive, it was Ike perlmutter. You even said it in the video, so I’m so confused why you kept saying it was Disney when it was really marvel themselves.
Oh.
This is an example of what's called the Fandumb Menace. Fans will see things from a twisted Nostalgia that their version of the thing is perfect or any changes are Heretical and thus try to blame it on everything they view as bad, from more women and POC characters to changes in franchise direction, the Fandumb has always got its Rose-tinted Nostalgia Goggles applied so tightly to their faces they might as well be blind. Fox also contributed to the issues by pumping out subpar X men films that did not do well except for Logan and that was because it was adapting a REALLY good story.
It's called echo chamber click bait.
In honor of A Quiet Place: Day 1 coming out soon, it would be amazing if you guys did a theory on how loud you have to get before one of the aliens hears you. 9:47
I think Lee is doing a great job of being a host 👍
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“ I don’t think I’ve seen this as much love for marvel series since Daredevil.” You ever heard of WandaVison?
I appreciate Lee going over this serious topic, and giving more details I didn’t know/ realize about the X-Men treatment during the 2010s. Keeping going Lee!
Hi!!! I thought in honor of the new A Quiet Place movie coming out, maybe you guys could make a theory about how loud you have to be in a quiet place before one of the aliens hears you.
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I had been wondering about the decline of XMen and all that...and this video has been super helpful to understand what's been going on. Thank you for another great, insightful video!
The ability to telepathically know anyone's culinary pallette and either perfectly match or subvert it depending on how I feel about them in that moment.
literally just being an unnecessarily good artist that’s my power
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Ideally I'd love to have Gambit's kinetic powers.
In actuality my current mutant power is that my chest hair already grows in the shape of the X-men X so I just wouldn't need to wear the suit I guess.
To be fair, everyone should fear Disney
The ability to alter the laws of physics. Mainly to mess with people but man, there's so much you can do with this power
Disney sabotaging X-Men in the 2010s also was seen in the Marvel Heroes game, which had the rights to use X-Men in it, and they did, but had to tread carefully as anything they did to promote X-Men in the game was punished by Marvel/Disney.
I actually noticed that the Inhumans were doing more X-men type plots in those years but I had no idea that Disney was actively pushing it! Thanks for the info!
The cat that walks through walls.
Kitty Pryde and Wolverine was my favorite limited series
Talk about a deep dive that strikes hard; I had always wondered why X-Men got sidelined so hard in the 2010s.
Unfortunately, Disney's practices have already led me to just, stop being a marvel fan though. I'll cherish my memories of the old content, and find solace in the smaller groups making stories instead.
But good ep, good job calling out corporate influences on the main media; cause it will get worse, before it can ever get better.
Disney's doing the same thing to Star Wars,but all you're gonna hear is "the Fandom is toxic".
People are saying that since X-men ‘97 did so good they should revive the 90s Spider-man show. But you what, I say they should revive Wolverine and the X-men.
That show was great, but i say Spectacular Spiderman deserves it the most
If their going to revive another X-Men series, I hope they do X-Men Evolution. That was the show I grew up. Also, they need to bring back Spectacular Spider-Man.
They Should Permanently Get The Streaming Rights
As Well As All Non-MCU Movies And TV Show
There's a lot of Marvel cartoons that should be brought back.
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Defiantly being able to make all my enemies fall asleep or being able to track the nearest candy
6:48 I love that the name of the movie was 'Spaceballs'
Classic movie
Mel Brooks movies are fantastic.
If you've never seen it, you should. A beautiful send-up of _Star Wars_ and other space opera movies that still holds up today.
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My mutation would be love probability...I would be an X-Men who could inspire love
breathing underwater with feet that looks like fish tails and gills
15:37 I agree with on all the levels they did not execute the X-men name properly with Wanda just killing them like that 😭🙏
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My mutant ability would be to clone myself, but to then have those clones fuse back into one person, still having the memory from both
My superpower is always having everything needed for any situation
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This was a great video. I stopped read comic books a while back and didn't know what was happening. Didn't realize that the X-Men were being slowly removed because, of Disney. This was a nice way to catch up with main X-men plotlines too...
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1:29 Like what I would want it to be or what makes sense to my personality? For the first one probably shapeshifting but if it’s the second, finding a way to hate everything about myself
90s X-Men was my life
YES AN X-MEN EPISODE
Lee I have to say this is now my favorite film theory. You have really stepped up to the plate and taken on the big issues like Disney doing things like this. Thank you for saying what NEEDS to be said and also explaining WHY people should care. Keep doing incredible ❤
My mutant power would likely be slowing down time at will. it's like quicksilvers ability, but the world slows when I use my abilities, fitting my lazy attitude, willing too take things slowly.
I'm disappointed you didn't mention the "X-Men Mazda RX-8" 🤣
I 've often heard fans complian about how Marvel writers like to torture Spiderman. Considering that it's Sony that owns the Spiderman film franchise, and not Disney, I now wonder how much of this torture is just normal and how much of it is encouraged by Disney.
Give me lighting powers.
Just because someone stumbles and loses their theory doesn't mean it's lost forever
No mention of Marvel Vs Capcom: Infinite leaving out all the xmen?
My mutant ability would be never needing sleep again.
5:08 We're in phase 5. Phase 4 ended with wakanda forever
Professor X was in Dr. Strange 2, which was a part of Phase 4, but yes the former two characters weren't in phase four
this is by far the best episode! keep it up Lee! :)
Problem started before Disney bought Marvel. FOX bought the X-men character rights from Marvel when they were in a money crunch. Sony bought the Spider-Man rights for a similar reason. Disney has been trying to get them back ever since buying Marvel because they haven’t been contractually allowed to make the stories that you want.
Disney buys a company/studio and runs their franchises into the ground? I’m shocked!
(Heavy sarcasm)
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Getting bought by Disney is a death sentence.
Finally, an X-Men theory!
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And I really don't blame them...
Buying X-men enables them to finally merge the Marvel universe, but if they promote X-men themselves, they will have to pay more for it. Which idiot would do that? I'm shocked they allowed the comics to continue.
It's like wanting to buy a house, and then putting an ad on the house promoting its perks to attract more buyers. No one does that...
Film theory has been more about the corporations instead of the actual movies
The power to duplicate anything
YESSS AN X-MEN THEORY
My mutant power would be turning money into a Lego set of the same price
But if I got to choose it would be the powers of a witch for The Owl House
I know I may be a little late to say this, but can you please make a theory on The Amazing World of Gumball, it has so much lore and hidden meaning in it. And it brings back so many memories.
Y'all are way behind the curve on this. Anyone that was paying attention during the last decade already knew that studio politics was destroying X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man. The blame is not all on Disney. Fox and Sony deserve just as much blame, because they were constantly pushing out garbage movies just to maintain their hold on those properties, while refusing to sell them back to Marvel, where they belonged. Sony is still doing this with the side Spider-Man characters. That's why I was so glad Disney bought Fox to put an end to some of this nonsense. Now Marvel will be happy to include X-Men and Fantastic Four in anything they can. Now they will bring them back. Saying that we should be worried about what they do with them next is just because you want to hate on Disney when, in reality, now that they are back under Marvel's control, Marvel will do them right. I mean, we've already seen evidence of that with X-Men 97.
They brought back Marvel vs. Capcom, so thats promising at least