Why Jak & Daxter Has The Worst Fate Out Of The Bunch! Is A Sequel That Necessary?
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- čas přidán 28. 09. 2017
- Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper and Ratchet & Clank were this trio of iconic Sony mascots back in the day. Ratchet & Clank seems to still be going. Sly Cooper not so much as for Jak, it seems to be the worst case.
Sly Cooper 5 has one thing in its way, Sony's approval. Jak & Daxter has two things, having a new team and Sony's permission. It seems that the series is dead until a new team decides to pick it up. Naughty Dog in short, is no longer interested.
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in the Jak 3 guide book it mentions that since the catacombs were now opened it would only be a matter of time till Gol and Maia would find a way out. i was always hoping they would do a game about that. other than that i never found another reason to make a game
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2020 still nothing 😳
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I personally think the 4th game could revisit time travel and Jak could start building Haven City. The story could go as follows:
They start in Spargus, where a strong red eco crystal was found in an excavation site, formed by strong volcanic activity, which will become the Heart of Mar. After they find it, they try to build another time machine so Jak can build Haven City and fulfill his destiny. But the crew could think it might be a good idea to prevent the metal heads from ever getting to Sandover Village, and Keira starts building a new time machine. You start gathering ressources in the future and bring them to the past while fighting off Metal Heads.
The whole crew could help building, and problems further in development could arise, so you travel back to the beginning of the production and fix that there. Basically, like in FFXIII-2, you could have missions across different stages of Haven City's construction and you can travel freely with the time machine.
That's just an idea I had, but I would love that to be a game.
Honestly they should just sell it to someone else if they don't care about "kiddy games" anymore. What is the problem? They are clearly not interested, preferring to go for generic gritty bandwagons of present day gaming, so just give it away to someone who can put it to good use. Its still a well loved series, so why not have someone who actually cares for these games and put them to good use? I still see many potential in it, even if a sequel isn't exactly necessary. I'll take Jak and Daxter over The Last of Us any day.
Nayru of the Zoras You read my mind! Naughty Dog really could care less about Jak at this point. The series could go in so many ways, but nothing is happening, not gonna lie, it's frustrating.
FrostSplashStudios Its pretty sad honestly. This used to be one of Playstation's hottest game back then along with Ratchet and Clank. Then the cursed that was the gritty age of gaming took over and overshadowed some of gaming's greatest gems as developers jumped ship. If Naughty Dog wants to stick with The Last of Us, then fine, they can do what they with it. But don't leave a beloved relic of the past collect dust for all eternity when there is demand for it. Give it away to someone competent enough to do their job and problem solved. If Sucker Punch can do it to Sly, and Insomiac can do it to Spyro, then there's no excuse for Naughty Dog to not give away Jak to a company who'll keep its legacy going. Honestly if I had been a Jak fan back then, I would've left ND once they turn their focus to the Last of Us. I honestly couldn't care less for that game no matter how good everyone says it is. I hate Zombies and I don't like gritty looking games that are basically overglorfied movies. Uncharted maybe, since I like adventure games.
I can't tell you how much I would love to play these J&D games. I only grew up with Ratchet and Clank and Sly Cooper, and had plans to purchase it for my PS2 until R&C Future: A Crack in Time came out and I forgot about this series. Its only nowadays with the release of the first Jak game that my interest resparked in this series.
If games like Ratchet and Clank can go on for 15 years and counting, why not Jak and Daxter in the ownership of someone else? Hell, Zelda is still go strong at 31 years and isn't slowing down. If Naughty Dog would stop making lazy excuses and just sell their unwanted product, problem solved. Jak and Daxter is in the hands of devoted developers and they can continue on with their movies-I'm sorry, mature video games.
Nayru of the Zoras I completely agree. I wish we could get a band of people to message Naughty Dog about why they don't just sell it off. We most likely wouldn't get a response because that's the type of company they are, but at least it would probably get them to see it. I have an idea as to why they don't and it's probably because they want to keep milking money out of the series to put towards their other games. The series, that's being put out once again on the PS4, is probably another chance for them to make some quick, easy money to help fund another, unneeded Uncharted game.
I say let Insomniac or Sucker Punch develop another Jak game.
Yeah, they should have another company work on it if Naughty Dog isn't willing to. I agree with VTNVIVI with the fact that Ready at Dawn should take over. They did a great job with Daxter, so maybe they'd do a good job with a Jak 4. On the other hand, Daxter is over 10 years old now, so we wouldn't know if it would turn out well today...
To be honest, I'm just upset that they would throw away such a perfectly built world and technological-magic system. Though my favourite out of all the games is Jak 1, Jak 2 and 3 are so perfectly rounded in their level of comedy and seriousness. The games are very adultswim-esque. I would love Jak 4, there are so many questions and possibilities to be answered and applied in this sequel. ND is soulcrushingly wasting such priceless potential for their dry in substance "Movie" games. If I go to EB Games to buy a game, I expect my purchase to be a game not a MOOOOVVIIIIIIE
I just want to see jak and daxter with ps4 graphics lol
Kinda like R&C PS4!!
Exactly 😁
saaame lol
Maysa but make it look decent so we can have a nice 60fps!
Same
I would say yes. I want a sequel because I would love to return to this world. I wanna see these characters again. It's my favorite game series of all time. I love 1, 2, 3, and X all the same!
Yes, me too, man. That game was my childhood. Brotherhood! We jak fans gotta stick together in this new world
Honestly, the biggest reason why I want a sequel to the Jak games is the insane amount of potential when it comes to the gameplay. They can do so much more with the Light/Dark powers, the Jet - Board, the Morph Gun and more. It's so crazy, there are almost endless possiblities.
I don't know what they can do with the story. The only thing I hope is that they stop focusing on Mar and move forward like Jak X did.
With that being said, sales matter. And the Jak games sold worse and worse as time went on. (except for Daxter, which is the best selling game of the entire series)
Agreed! Daxter was also part of a PSP bundle which I got in the past :)
Actually, Jak 2 sold more than the first game, but I see where you're coming from
Powercell Freak Not sure if the links are true or not, but according to these links, the first game sold more.
www.vgchartz.com/game/6301/jak-and-daxter-the-precursor-legacy/
www.vgchartz.com/game/1045/jak-ii/
I though you might have brought these up. Initially, I thought this to be true as well, but if you look, there is no listing for Japan for Jak 2, but according to this link on Naughty Dog's official website, it says that Jak 2 won them an award for selling over 1million copies in Japan.
www.naughtydog.com/timeline/
Powercell Freak That's actually pretty cool. I also didn't know that Jak II began development in 2001. Thanks for the link.
Well Jak still has to get back to the past in order to be the founder of Haven City.
He's Gotta get back, back to the Past, Sam-U-Rai JAK!!!!!
A sequel could be necessary if there's a good storyline.
:)
Since Naughty Dog tried and failed bringing back the series, the chances of a Jak & Daxter sequel is impossible. From what the Last of Us director said, he wasn't too sure if the team was making Jak 4 for Marketing reason or trying to make something that isn't Jak & Daxter related
With that, we need a new team.
You come out of the assumption that a reason for a sequel is STORY.
Even though Ratchet and Clank 1, 2, 3, and Deadlocked did NOT have cliff hangers. And all had sequels. Remember Spyro 2? And Spyro 3? And consider Syphon Filter Dark Mirror in 2006: a brand new entry in a series of 4 games with no cliff hangers. Games are not movies, the reason for a sequel is NOT story resolution; the reason for a game sequel is A NEW ADVENTURE. New levels. More gameplay.
+NotOrdinaryInGames Hey you're absolutely right! I guess the way I put it is, is it necessary to make a sequel to a game which has been "dead" for years? Why would it be necessary to bring a sequel today? Old games back then sold enough to convince the publisher to bring new games, new adventures as you said.
Because of the attention to detail and the crazy capabilities of new gen consoles. Think about if this game series never started. And they just started working on tbe Precursor Legacy TODAY. Dude, that game would be top notch, all we're asking for is more of the same with better physics, graphics, and more adventure. With nowadays technology they could easily make this into an Open world RPG and even have multiplayer/Online capabilities. But they won't do it because of "numbers" and that they'd probably lose money. Which, to me, is bullshit, I have yet to play any of the Last if Us games, stopped playing uncharted after the 2nd but would've bought (preordered) a Jak 4 the second I could. I'm still checking the ps store everyday for the remastered Jak 2, its all I can think about playing. I beat the Precursor Legacy 100% in 8 hours and I need more. They need better advertising towards the Jak series and more incentive to keep coming back. GTA for instance keeps releasing free dlc constantly. You have to pay in game money, but that's the incentive to keep playing. They have the funds, the crew, the tech, and the research to make this series come back and come back successfully.
>open world online RPG
>:(
While Jak 3 didn't end on a cliff hanger, Jak X, which is canon, did.
Haven't played that one so I can't say :P
I'm a huge fan of Jak and Daxter and I always wanted to make the scatter gun and the Blaster gun from Jak 2 I love the lore in Jak and Daxter the precursor all of the Eco the precursor orbs the power cells everything I love about the history of Jak and Daxter the precursor voices when you go to an oracle one of my favorite voices in the game
You know, with Yooka Laylee, Knack, and the N. Sane Trilogy, there seems to be a resurgence in mascot platformers in the making. Maybe they'll do a remake of J&D in the future and people will make remixes of songs with Daxter's quips, who knows. I don't think it's buried in the mud, though.
I like your optimism!
Madison I would like that, problem is Naughty Dog still owns the Jak license
Bro I'm 17 and a Jak fan and I think ND not making a sequel to Jak 3 or a reboot to the franchise is alright. What I like most of what they did with Jak was that they matured the series from a kid friendly game to a edgy game for teens, I would not mind at all if ND took a realistic approach to Jak and Daxter but I think I would like Jak 4 a lot if it followed more of the style of Jak II and Jak 3.
Realistic is really not necessary, that is not what made the series great. Look at R&C, never went ''realistic'', always kept that cartoony style and people love it.
VTNVIVI true bro, the Jak series really doesn't need to look realistic and I like how Jak is dark and a serious themed series but still not forgetting its humour so transitioning Jak from a cartoony look to a realistic look doesn't seem that much of a deal to me bro. The concepts of the potential Jak 4 looks badass and it was real cool how they were following the style of Jak II and Jak 3. GamersJoint has a vid on these concepts bro
yeah please, never make jak and daxter realistic, for the love of god.
I'd actually really love to see Jak take on a gang war following the story in Jak X. Maybe it could follow Gol and Maia trying to pull and underground takeover and you end up, begrudgingly, having to work together with Rayne to stop them.
TBH I think the only reason we want Jak 4 is because of nostalgia
Of course there's nostalgia!
Sawada Tsunayoshi Or maybe......Just maybe.... we want want because Jak Is FUCKEN AWESOME AND GETS NO LOVE FROM SONY OR NAUGHTY DOG
+VTNVIVI Please consider this idea. The reason I want a Jak 4 is because, at the ending cutscene of Jak 3, the ottsel leader said "You have turned the tide against the dark makers, and together we will win this war" which is implying the idea that the Dark makers are still a threat, maybe Gol and Maya are leading the Dark makers. The surfer ottsel also said "there are way more challenges in the future" which brings me to ask what challenges will he face? That and Jak said "I couldn't leave you Dax, with all our adventures ahead, you wouldn't last a second without me" and that leaves me asking what adventures?
Hmm maybe the precursors showed Jak the future! He saw that there's more threat so he had to remain with Dax. I also think Gol and Maia should return, ND actually had hinted at it in the official guide of Jak 3. Unfortunately, never came to fruition.
I have a question, how did Jak turn the tide by destroying *ONE* ship?
Well in my opinion we do need a Jak4 . Jak3 was telling us that they got many adventures. And what does that mean? Jak4. It's pretty much is a cliffhanger to me. They need to explain why is jak not going out with keria. They need to fix their fucking story man. They just left room for another jak game . They need to give us a clear answer is jak the mar or not.
Ratchet and clank is different, they had a lot of games. I just don't under stand how do they leave a great game like this. If I had the rights for jak and daxter I would work on their story. And give people what they want. I can't believe I'm the only person that's thinking about this in the comments. 😔
You're not man, I feel you. I grew up loving both Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter. Ratchet and Clank kept up their end and kept making games, Jak was their only rival/competitor, once they stopped Ratchet and Clank soard higher than before. It's really sad that ND still hasn't made a new Jak game with the next gen capabilities, so many things are possible for this series.
Supposedly they scrapped the in progress Jak 4 for whatever they were doing a few years back because they didn't really care too much for the art style the Jak series was known for or something. They wanted to move ahead with more realism and incorporate that into future games rather than fall back to the anime-ish style of the beloved Jak series.
That and apparently no one really cared to continue working on the series despite there actually being a cliff hanger (which they tried to appease us with Jak X: Combat Racing which they later admitted wasn't even cannon to the series and thus handed it off to I believe Insomniac? Who later went on to make Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier which is up in the air of whether or not it continues the plot from where Jak 3 left off, which most doubt it does.).
Martin Barrett gamer
We already have a clear answer. Jak isn't Mar.
Damas just named his son after their ancestor, because they are from the royal House of Mar.
Ashelin's line at the end of Jak 3 is just lazy writing that contributes nothing to the story.
@Martin Barrett gamer Jak IS going out with keira though, they get together in jak X and also the lost frontier (even though TLF is garbage, but it still happens nonetheless) also she's listed as his girlfriend on the wiki...
I just want Jak X combat racing for ps4. And you're right Jak and daxter doesnt need a sequel the story is done. What more can they do?
I haven't played Jak x ever!!!!!
Try it. It is awesome lmfao
I could see the story focusing on Mar or even an origin story for Haven city, the Precursors and the Metal Heads.
They’re working on it bro
NTG360 The fact that they were working on Jak 4 at some point tells us there was still a story to tell. I believe it had something to do with Mar. They just decided to scrap the entire Jak 4 project to jump on the zombie bandwagon and made The Last of Us instead.
I am also looking forward to Jak X as well. It would be nice if they could enable the online features too.
Amazing video VTNVIVI
Glad you enjoyed it :D
have you done something with your recording of the gameplay to make it less pixely? ive got all the games on the PS4 pro and jak 1 looks really pixely on mine, but on this video yours looks fine
I'm not sure? No I haven't done anything.
Jak 3 had a great ending... I believe everything good has to come to a end at one point and Jak is one of those things... rule number 1 to making a good series *DONT MILK THE SERIES* Let it run its course and once it’s done it’s done... don’t keep it going if you don’t feel the passion or have run out of ideas 🤷♂️.
Don't milk it yes!!!!!!
Tell that to Disney
A animated style ist good the new zelda those graphics weren't amazing look at how many people went crazy of that, and don't get me started on anime dbz or dbs and Pokemon is huge. Like come on they could of made a Jak 4 with the real world features and hd fur like the colossal remake ps4.
Most iconic games are the 4 platformers sly, Jak,crash and ratchet, legit I didn't even know the uncharted series until no.4 came out
You play uncharted finish it, you never play it again or maybe a few times, you finish Jak and daxter you replay it and never get old
A good story would be him attempting to break the time paradox, with a sub plot of maybe taking out Gol and Maia in a 2nd battle, which would explain why they never were in 2 and 3...His older self made sure they didn't come back.
Nice background music, Haven Forest has the best theme, reminds me of Sentinel Beach. :)
I think the Jak 3 story would have been stronger and more exciting if Gol and Maia were the main enemies trying to summon the Dark Makers. Erol could have still been an enemy, but he would only be the KG leader and maybe a foot soldier for the Acherons. Their motivation makes more sense than him. Veger is okay, but he's one of those characters they write as if he's always been in the story even though he wasn't.
This goes off from my own desire to see the original trilogy's undercooked lore and plot tweaked to its full potential.
A re-imagining you say? Yeah, if they do remake the first game, I'd like them to dive deeper into background lore.
whats the name of your outro song its very soothing and majestic.
It's from Final Fantasy 13-2 credits :)
Awesome video, I just wish we didn't get left with The lost frontierBut yeah I would love a sequel!!
Alright cool :D
I'd love a jak 4 but I'd also love a remaster of the series, seeing it with today's graphics would be insane
In the style of R&C 2016 :), visually speaking!
I think the idea of creating a vibrant universe with unique lore, stories, designs etc. Then creating a boring realistic "zombie" game or a realistic adventure game, is so disappointing. The games they create are fine. But there's nothing there, no creativity
:(
Jak and Sly are both underrated.
Jak is definitely the most underrated because there's nobody left who shows the right interest in continuing the series. Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin were with Naughty Dog since its founding in 1984 (back when it was called JAM Software). They left the team after Jak III came out, and so did many other staff members that had been around for that long. People who worked on Math Jam, Ski Crazed, Dream Zone, Keef the Thief, Rings of Power, and Way of the Warrior (which are all the games Naughty Dog made before they started the Crash Bandicoot series) all left Naughty Dog at some point. The number of people who worked on Jak and Daxter that still there now that we have The Last of Us are so low, I can literally count them on my fingers. Almost nobody who worked on Crash is still there. Naughty Dog is completely out of the equation right now.
Sly Cooper is holding at a better status and fate than Jak and Daxter is because the Sly movie and TV show are simply struggling to come out. The movie even got a trailer released. As for Jak, however, the movie that was being worked on is very obscure and never even came to the point of trailer production. Both movies got canned by Rainmaker, and Jak has no more media coming along that is known. Recently, I saw an announcement for Jak 4, but it was a hoax created by someone who vandalized PlayStation's front page.
You can view the annoucement that was actually a scam here:
i.redd.it/4it2qr9thxl51.png
With everything that's happened, it should all be clear to us right now. Jak is doing worse than Sly is, and Ratchet is just skyrocketing.
I found an image that shows the current statuses of Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper, and Ratchet and Clank as individuals. If you want to view it, then look here:
preview.redd.it/8c85n0aomaf51.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3eb49cd7151a4d38a73bf75062f7eb390ac4240b
You bring up valid points! I'm aware of that scam and never once believed it.
I have always loved the thought of a Jak and Daxter game where they go back to the past to the point of the arrival of the metal heads. Jak and Daxter help gather the sages and warriors to battle off the metals heads, start mining precusor metal and technology from the precusor basin and the lost precusor city which starts to develope Haven Cities Walls. It would connect seeing Samos' old hut on the outside of Haven.
It could either Hint Jak disguised himself with his real name Mar to the sages, villagers and even the lurkers (they make a peace treaty b/c of the metal head invasion, but someone crosses them eventually having them in the slave trade.) Or Jak makes sure his ancestor to the Mar dynasty survives long enough to develope the city.
All while we see how the beautiful world of precusor legacy is destroyed by the metal heads, collecting sources of all eco and precursor metal to have the wall built. Keira can be the head tech of the machanics. She could develope weapons, the eco shield wall (with the aid of the other sages).
Maybe its just my passion of the game but i can really see someone with similar passion could take this game and go far with developing and producing it. The cherry on top would be all origonal voice actors.
Tell me about it O_O
@@VtnVivi its like Jak and Daxter are Sansa from Game of Thrones and Naughty Dog is Joffery just keeping ahold of the game and not letting anyone else continue, remake or even reimagine the game. Such torture to the fans😰
@@VtnVivi with the right screenwriters and directors of high class knowledge of the game could make a bad ass movie, theres plenty of plot dialogue and concept art to make one. 😍
I been replaying jack 1-3 on the ps2
Did they have a ng+?
And does jack make Keira his bae ?
Because I think at the end of 3 he kissed Ashlin but she was standing next to the resistance dude
I'm all confused
NG+ would be Hero mode :)
Just leaving it at Jak 3 was fine enough for me.
I see!
I don't really care for the jak 4 concept art, Realistic does not necessarily equal good.
Yep
I'd say that Jak had the best fate of the bunch, Sly is still in egypt and Ratchet and Clank have come down with a bad case of sequelitis. Do we really need a Jak 4? I'd like to see it, but more because of the fun gameplay instead of the story, and that that makes me lean toward spiritual successor rather than a straight up Jak 4.
which is why Ratchet & Clank is more successful its all about the gameplay, the story is simple and has great humor, while they add new gameplay to each new game and new lore that doesnt effect the main story or the characters.
Would ND make that spiritual successor? Nope. I could imagine one by another developer.
What is the music at the end of the video?
Final Fantasy 13-2 Credits.
Rather than pushing for Jak 4 we should push for a series reboot/remake. Naughty Dog is done with the series. Trying to get a new team to continue their story is almost certain to fail since the teams will have differing visions for the game. It just wouldn't sync up with the rest of the series. Reboot the series and let a good studio build it from the ground up. I'd love to see a rebooted Jak and Daxter using the power of the PS5.
Outro music?
Final Fantasy 13-2 credits :)
I'd like a soft reboot at this point. I think you could make a game given its lore. But having watched all the cutscenes, the dialogue feels rather dated. I'd love a fresh coat of paint with the same loveable world & characters. Needs the same love that Toy's for Bob gave to crash4.
A remake would be splendid!
I wouldn’t mind a remaster or reboot of this series.
Yes the first game!!!!! And imagine the sequel following the same aspects as the first game but slowly introducing new concepts!
That "No" from Insomniac was so cold.
IG is simply very straight forward :P I know I too got that vibe.
VTNVIVI But still... Its like you would punch a 5 year old in the face :/
VTNVIVI maybe Sony should give it to Sucker Punch?
Crazy how the new trend is “ nostalgia “ yet this game is still yet to be even remastered
yes because of gol and that girl might have survived by the way samos implied it and I was always curious because what was left of the robot could have protected them
I'm sure they are alive, wasted game potential :(
As an artist and a story writer I'd be hella interested in helping make a new jak game
Man that'd be one absolute awesome experience.
The concept art for Jak 4 isn't so bad
To me it doesn't look like Jak.
even if we don't get a sequel it be nice to see either a re imagining of the series or see a comic book series and see how it does to bring in new fans. I hope we get a company that will bring the series back.
A re-imagining would be lovely!
Samos: "I have spent my life searching for the answers that my father, and my father's father failed to find: Who where the precursurs?..."
[Check]
"...Why did they create the vast monoliths, that lither our planet?..."
[Partially]
"...How did they harnest eco, the life energy of the world?..."
[Partially]
"...What was their pourpuse?..."
[Check]
"...And why did they vanish?"
[Check]
So there is a bit more to be tied up in the story, but not much.
Oracle: "Who awakens the oracle? Wait, one of you has the light within. From before time, I have watched and waited for the true hero to return. Present to me, 120 precursor orbs for each powercell I contain."
Wait, return? And an actual relic from the precursors are asking for 120 orbs while the villagers are asking for 90... are the orbs actually worth more than they seem, since you probably already have given me a huuuuge discount for being the returning true hero?
Wait, there are more loose ends to the story.
Naughty Dog won’t make it becaase Naughty Dog wants to make realistic games so they can use them for political activism, by making human looking characters that people can relate to and be used to manipulate the players emotions
I feel like jak should have a story about his mom i mean i dont think we have seen anything related to his mom so i just think it would be cool to see
Same goes for Ratchet and Sly :P Parents are usually out of the picture except Damas.
Rip jaks mama lml
But for real the that isn't Dexter Dexter is the cartoony orange ottsole(or however it's spelled)
*Daxter *Ottsel
Nahh a Jak 4 isn't necessary at all. I would even wonder why Rainmaker ever thought about making a Jak and Daxter movie. But these two things would be undeniably nice!!
I just want Jak 2, 3 and X on the ps4. That's the last thing Sony can do in my opinion, so I wonder why they are so quiet. Really bugs me...
However, great vid bud ;D
We shall wait and see! Thanks mate :)
tbh i wouldnt mind what they were going to do with jak 4 considering what lost frontier ended up as
I disagree :(
How can people say there is nothing to answer?
1) what did the precursors wanted to show Jak?
2) what is his role in the bigger picture?
3) how the fuck did Mar managed to build Haven and every surrounding structure? Was he alone?
4) What is exactly in the catacombs?
5) How is Spargus doing?
6) HOW DID WE NOT KNOW ABOUT KRAS CITY??
7) Are there more cities?
8) Is there a possibility to go to other planets? Since precursors just cruise space apparently and can god damn "Scottie beam me up" you to ships in space...
9) What other temple like structures is there in the world? What do they hide?
10) Is the Lost Frontier Canon?
11) Is Jak sage material?
12) Were do the wasteland marauders come from exactly?
13) What exactly happened to the metal heads? "they died off" seems rushed and not exactly right, since there were metal heads in Jak X, and since we didnt know about a whole god damn city, what else are we missing?
14) Are there any more dark makers? Since their appearance and the descriptions of what they do was kinda setting them up as an universal world eating enemy.
15) What happened to Haven city after Jak 3-X time period?
Not to mention the epic proportions a J&D game could have in current hardware. The setting is perfect to have a wide, wide variety of environments, enemies, populations, groups, gangs, activities....hoverboards, hover racing, combat racing, a lot of shooting, flying, inter planetary travel, time travel. Jesus, even god damn parallel universes wouldn't be that farfetched in a setting like this. The potential to have a game that completely smashes the bullshit we have been getting in the last 10 years is immense. An epic adventure, that isn't 50 shades OF BROWN AND GREY, in an other wordly setting, were there is conflict but at the same time beauty and lightheartedness.
There is enough material to expand Jaks' world....we got a buttload of new places just for racing, imagine if we got them for a regular J&D game.
Remember the Ratchet and Clank reboot? Remember Halo 4? Some things should be allowed a peaceful death, they shouldn't be dragged out of the grave like the Simpsons. It's better to remember it fondly than to resent what it has become.
R&C still has a story which I'd love for them to cover. Other than that, a crossover should come next :P
VTNVIVI Ratchet and Clank had a story to cover, but they through that away when they made a reboot instead of a sequel. I don't think the rebooted game is strong enough to have make sequels. I'm not against them making a J&D sequel, or a reboot for that matter, I'm just not sure they can do right, and I'd really hate to see a whole new generation's opinion of the series be spoiled like that.
Are you crazy? The R&C remake (they've said its not a reboot several times) was great and sold incredibly well.
When have The Simpsons ever been allowed to rest? They need to be put to rest before they can he dragged out of a grave...
dude what!? The concept art for Jak 4 made me so hyped when I saw it. I think it looks super cool, and it would be amazing to play that game. I would love if they made a even darker jak game then jak 2 you know xD I still from time to time look at the concept art with amazement and excitement, hoping to play that game some day! :O well tbh, taht one pic off jak is super wack. but daxter look so damn great!
I see! I still prefer the cartoon feel :)
the way i see it, there could be two new jak games, one could continue after jak 3 with the mar stuff, and the other can deal with Krews daughter Rayn from jak x, that story had unfinished business , and it would be awesome to explore Kras city on foot rather than just racing in it
Cool :D
I don't think Jack and Dacter 4 is necesary, what i think is necesary is more games alike, because now videogames companies are stuck with more realism and doing more things that give profit in the past once and another. IRL is the worst videogame ever, and its like everyone ultimate goal is imitate it in videogames. The commercial developers today have 2 principal problems one lack of imagination and pasion for the products, and two they got their heads very stuck into their ass. I am the only who remembers that jak 1 was pg 13 and jack 2 and 3 were pg 18. Anyone that calls an art style "childish" because it does not reasembles the reality should not criticise or develop games. Fantasy based art as i like to call it is more dificult and requires better people to make it because you don't have references to do it, you must do everything from scratch. We do not need another jak game, we need capitalism to die to videogames can develop without thinking in profit. Commercial games are suffocating the indie ones.
To be fair, there is material to work with for Jak and Daxter. They could explore more of Daxter's dark form, or even him being a Precursor more (Perhaps he could get powers similar to what we saw from those other ottsels). It could give him more depth and allow him to help Jak out more. They could even explore more of Jak and Daxter's friendship this way. Keira becoming an ECO Sage is something else that can be explored more, perhaps to the point of her playing a bigger role, or even becoming a playable character. Whether Jak is the original Mar or not could also be explored of course. If he is Mar, they can get into how he formed Haven City. If he isn't Mar, what if there was time travel involved to meet and even train under the real Mar? Or at least fight alongside him?
I definitely think there is a lot to work with for a sequel here.
Jak definitely still has potential, we just need a new passionate team!
pretty sure they learned their lesson after jak iv(lost frontier) came out dont think a sequel is likely remake very possible
Unless a new passionate team approaches Sony.
I think in the sequel gol and mia are going to come back because Samos said at the end of the game that the dark eco PROBABLY killed them and I know that naught dog is not going to leave that hanging
Fun fact, ND themselves had said it's rumored both could be alive and stuck in the catacombs. This was from the strategy guide of Jak 3.
absolutely true man. I have several quesitons. Is the jak trilogy on ps4? My cousin wants to buy it, he has loved it since he was 2 years old. Jak 3 did end on a inch of a cliff hanger, NONE like sly cooper. But it would be epic to see jak 4 as a thing. But naughty dog has moved on to more sadder and depressing things. "The last of us" and "Uncharted". I would be more loved in a sly 5 than a jak 4 because it has a bigger cliff hanger. Although jak and daxter is my favourite out of the three, my cousin sent me down sly 3 and i fell in love after i waited a year to find it and play it from boredom. SO sly 5 is a bigger thing but jak 4 can still live while everyone thinks its dead
The Jak trilogy is not on PS Now, none of the games are.
Thx ill tell him. Although i did find jak and daxter trilogy on ps3 playstation store
its nessesaary do to the ending of jak3 and the noition of Gol and Maya still possibly being alive in the catacomes somewhere..
I think a Jak 4 is necessary because the question about Mar has plagued my mind for the last almost 15 years. Say we discover he is Mar and we incorporate time travel and the creation of Haven City. That has potential for great combat and puzzles. I do agree though that this needs to be a special dedicated team because Jak and Daxter is a series that needs to be done justice even though the canon story has been in hiatus for over 10 years
At this point the only hope for a good Jak 4 is if ND gives another company permission to do it. Otherwise, I don't see it ever happening.
I bet if the Jak and Daxter movie ever happened (which let's face it it'll never happen) it'll come out in 2089.
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VTNVIVI lol
Could you ask insomniac games if ratchet and clank could meet and partner up and help each other in a future game please BTW love your vids keep up the good work
Thanks for the support! A crossover you mean?
I would love a Jak 4 so we could see where they are now. If Jak is Mars. DOes Jak settle down and have a kid does Daxter do the same. Is Jak he new king of Spargus? Is he the ruler over the (sorry don't know the name of the city) Haven?
So many possibilities :)
All of us should start to work as game designers at Naugthy Dogs Studio just to fullfill our wishes :)
I believe they should ask naughty dog to give a try at the game and try again and this time, they put the game graphics from ratchet and clank ps4 into jak 4. I would like to have a jak and Daxter sequel.
0:19 - It was supposed to escape that fate with a movie but now that things have now taken a turn for the worst ... :/
0:30 - When you think about one of them, you really can't stop thinking about the other two! :D
1:18 - Yeah, that's pretty much why I don't think of Jak & Daxter as much as I do with Ratchet & Clank and even Sly Cooper. :P
1:34 - I don't think so. :/ :/
1:58 - It would be great to see it happen but I don't think it is necessary. :/
2:31 - I still don't understand why they even bothered with that ending. :P
2:55 - About that; J's Reviews and TGX came up with a really impressive plot twist for the future series where Ratchet does enter the Lombax dimension with him and us players expecting a happy reunion, only to find out that a surviving group of Cragmites have found them and waged war on them there. How does that sound?
3:33 - Plus with Rainmaker out of the way like I said before; it's all in god hands. :)
4:20 - On the bright side; at least we know.
4:54 - I've ... got mixed feelings about that Uncharted game in particular. :/
5:15 - Unless they hire new people who'd have experience with those kinds of games then there really is nothing to look forward to with Naughty Dog. :(
5:41 - It's funny because J's Reviews and TGX said something similar about the 4th Sly Cooper game, stating that to them; it's terribly written fan fiction. :P
5:50 - Wait, what?? Is he saying that he he would like to have Daxter as a pet in real life or actually have wanted this game to happen? :/ :P
6:06 - Either them, Sanzaru Games or SuckerPunch. I could see those two doing that since they do still have interest with these kinds of games.
6:27 - Our Ratchet & Clank creators ladies and gentlemen! :D
6:34 - Would you rank it above any Jak & Daxter game that Naughty Dog has made or below all three? ;)
7:33 - You would say hate but surprisingly enough, J's Reviews would rather play this game then Secret Agent Clank which he reviewed over a month ago if you're interested. ;)
8:26 - All it means is that they're later games will either be new IP's or sequels which won't surpass it's predecessors in any way. :P
8:59 - Guys who were going to make a movie of Jak & Daxter but have now settled for selling all their assets! XD
9:39 - It all depends on how much they made selling all their assets to Technicolor.
9:59 - All we have is Jak, Daxter and Keira agreeing to go on a new adventure but that ending is from Lost Frontier so ... yeah!
10:09 - Always happy to watch. :)
10:20 - Oh! Looks like your advertising the Sly Cooper community on the Amino even if videos aren't Sly Cooper related! I like that. :D
I would imagine a threat being in the Lombax dimension, maybe not even by the Craigmites. Tachyon is still alive so I guess there's that to consider. Druckman liked the model of Daxter... ew..
Maybe you can talk more about it in a later video, I can actually see Tachyon return with Zogg.
I wonder what the former developers would say about that. :P Daxter as a real life pet! :P
Yes it's necessary, I mean look. There's three things left in Jak & Daxter, Mar is Jak, Jol and Maria, And the War between the Precursor's and the Dark Makers. I want to see these things in a sequel.
There is material definitely!
I think a Jak 4 game would be a great game. Is it necessary idk. But there is so much you could do with it, you could tell the story on Mar and is Jak Mar and all that stuff. You could explore white eco and its powers maybe have Jak be the Sage for it like Samos is the green eco Sage or maybe we could have Daxter become human for a time but have to choose to become a ottsel again to save the planet or something idk or care really (having Daxter become human would be cool because that is why Jak and Daxter adventure kinda began, to find gol and turn him back into a human or whatever species they are) you could have Gol and Maia come back. I don’t really know if another game is necessary for the story but it could work.
Jak ended with dignity, there's nothing wrong with that. I gladly accept the quiet nostalgia we live with today as long as it doesn't mean seeing the slow and greedy decay of a franchise I love.
I could not bring myself to care about the Ratchet games after the PS2 era and I hated the ending of Thieves in Time.
I liked their ideas for both Jak and Daxter's redesigns.
I just prefer cartoon :P
The thing is that unless some really good storytelling is involved, there cannot be a Jak 4. The most realistic thing I could see would be Jak's adventures in time travel with the precursors saving the universe before being time travelled back to the present right after he supposedly left. Either that, or a proper remaster or remake of the Jak trilogy as one cohesive masterpiece like the treatment crash and Spyro got. The plot of the Jak trilogy is over, and although a Jak and Daxter game is still possible, it would never be a Jak 4.
So any body can make jak 5 can i make it?
Maybe at most they should at least do a really good remaster but i feel like the ps4 port was so lame since i have a Pro, like at least upscale it to 4k and make it 60 fps?
I don't think any PS2 classics go up to that.
@@VtnVivi yeah I know but I was thinking about how the PS4, especially the Pro , has the power to bring up fps/resolution at least.
Dude you need to start doing spoiler warnings second time you caught me off guard with a Sly story drop.
Hmm...Is it considered spoilers after 6 years?
I heard that if the Jak games sell well on the PS4, we MIGHT get a Jak 4 (Emphasis on the word "MIGHT")
I really want a Jak 4 as welll
Mayble explore a origen story for Haven City where you play as Mar
Please send me the link very curious!!!
I would love to see one someday. But yeah Jak 3 had a good ending nothing to continue on. But if they are going to do one again. I'm down to play it
Every generation games get more expensive to make, studios need the confidence in a game selling $1million+ copies in order to start production, the Lost Frontier and the 2012 HD collection showed that the market isn’t there for Jack and Daxter anymore.
That was in 2012, the market now seems to be demanding.
Well now that Sony owns insomnia games I wonder if insomnia games would be able to refuse the project now
i wouldn't mind a Jak 4,; new story, up-to-date graphics and gameplay, etc. however, i for sure am dying for a ps4 remaster of the original trilogy, jak x also
I'd love a Jak & Daxter remastered with extra difficulty and maybe a better story
Sly cooper 5 seems to be happening after all
Sadly not jak 4
But sly cooper returning, gave me more hope for jak returning too
Honestly, I don't think the first image on the daxter reboot art looks that bad (the one where he's holding a gun).
But but he looks too different ahhh!!!!!!!!
None of the Jak games hinged on a sequel to make sense.
This is exactly what I thought a few months ago. 1. Ratchet and Clank 2. Sly 3. Jak
Just like me :D
I think a sequel is necessary to ease the hearts of fans of Jak and daxter. It’s dire because of the many questions that were left behind. But I truly believe that Jak is mar
I mean they have to make another one. I always thought they couldn’t have ended this great series off in a bad note they just can’t!
Leave that to a new developer.
Neil said that he felt that Jak 4 was being made for marketing, but he shat the last of us part 2 out* A game that wasn't necessary but they made anyway.
I want jak 4 to explain why jak is mar, and maybe how could sandover village become a destroyed place.
So many possibilities!
VTNVIVI
Maybe you're right, Jak 4 isn't necessary, but there is something to work on
We got a clifhanger in Jak X.
Yet to finish Jak X, I'll see ;p
Hey I love all Jak & Dexter game..I play all 6 of them.. it was weird how they made racing and flying planes game but I still like them. I'm sad and mad they never made another game but I still one day hope they or anyone do...
That's tragic how hardcore Naughty Dog abandoned Jak and Daxter. Sucker Punch may have moved on from Sly Cooper, but the games they've made since Sly 3 have a lot of the DNA that was in the Sly Cooper series. Infamous gave you big open hubs to traverse and explore in a variety of ways. And their new PS4 game Ghost of Tsushima looks like it'll have open world stealth and action.
I wouldn't want Neil Druckmann to be involved as a creative director in a Jak game. That would've ruined the game. I'm glad it didn't happen. I would prefer the right creative director to be in charge of the game (idk who would be the right one, but it's definitely not Neil). Neil messed up with Uncharted 4 in my opinion because honestly it didn't feel like an Uncharted game most of the time and it had too many slow/boring moments. Neil should just stick to his own games like The Last of Us if he's going to be the creative director. For any game not created/invented by him, he should not be sticking his nose in as a creative director in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing!
if we ever do get a jak4 i just pry if wont end up how deadrising 4 was
hey vtnvivi can you possibly send a message to sanzaru to make a demo for a sly 5 and pitch it to sony. that is the main reason sly 4 got green lit in the first place. they bought a ps3, made a demo, sony liked it and the deed was done. thanks huge fan.
Sanzaru has said multiple times to tweet at Shuhei Yoshida, which many aren't seem to be doing. Thank you for the support!
I believe they should use the same graphics from ratchet and clank ps4 to jak 4
Exactly!
I like you talking about jak and daxter too.