The BIG Change Of The Jak & Daxter Series - What Happened & Why? A Bit Of Naughty Dog History
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- The massive change of the Jak & Daxter series. What happened to this series and why the massive change in tone and feel? Naughty Dog was the creator of the Jak & Daxter series and with that, we can really see the difference in style when comparing the first game, The Precursor Legacy, to the second game Jak 2 (Renegade). What caused this sort of decision for the series and why? In this video, we’ll dive a bit deeper into the history of Naughty Dog and the games they’ve created over the years.
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The History of Insomniac Games:
www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/...
The History of Naughty Dog:
www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/...
Ratchet & Clank PS2 Postmortem Ted Price:
www.gamasutra.com/view/featur...
Jak 4 Undeveloped:
www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...
Bob Rafei Jak & Daxter Concept Art:
www.bobrafei.com/galleries/jak...
Ratchet & Clank concept art:
ratchet-galaxy.com/en/games/p...
Interview with Naughty Dog’s Andy Gavin:
blog.eu.playstation.com/2017/...
Devs Play Jason Rubin Interview:
• Devs Play S2E07 · "Cra...
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If only there was another gaming company who would want to try and bring back jak via reboot or the "crash" treatment.
Jak has been gone for far too long :(
Activision maybe ?
@@leeviheiskanen1271 Only if Activision buys out Jak and Daxter... which I don't think is going to happen given Sony's track record for IP ownership. (Crash and Spyro were Universal so don't count.)
The games have been remastered TWICE for both PS3 and PS4. I somehow doubt we'll be getting a remake of the series anytime soon.
That's the only option yep
@@leeviheiskanen1271 Not Activison god no
Does anyone remember getting stuck at the fishing part as a kid in the first Jak game?
DaedricTV that finishing bit brings back so many good memories trying to do it with the family
DaedricTV, I used to bad at the fishing part of Forbidden Jungle.
No but i do remember the slums seal boy i really hate that mission had to use mirror mode for that one
Tim Sheppard, oh yes, the 2nd mar seal mission was the worst, I had to use dark bomb on that sub in the water to use the jetboard to get to the other side faster and safer.
Yes
And who knows, Jak and Daxter may return one day, we can only hope
We never know!
Many men do!
I highly doubt it.
Yeah, an original story and maybe more island adventures
By the looks of naughty dog it’s best it doesn’t come out.
I truly do miss Naughty Dog sometime.
Me too sometimes I just wish they would make a another cartoony platformer game 😟😟
@@josephmcwilliams4598 they cant my friend. The people that used to make these awesome games are all gone now. Its naughty dog in name only. In reality its a much different company. They couldnt recapture the magic of the old games, even if they wanted too.
@@PantakesVGP that sucks
It would be cool if all the original developers were hired back to naughty dog to work in a sub group to remake the original jak games and or make a jak 4. Or if they all just created their own company and naughty dog subbed out all the jak work to them so modern naughty dog wouldn’t be a shamed to be making a “kids game” but can still capitalize from it. Modern naughty dog sucks now. Let’s be honest. With all the bs going on in the news. It’s a shame really. Just make fun games. That’s all
@@christopherpatrick1026 Hmm
Well most are working for Initiative now
But it is still possible, if MS buys Jak and Daxter IP
I’ve just started playing Jak Il. Jak and Daxter is the best Naughty Dog made.
Awesome!
Yeah but Uncharted is good to naughty dog made those too
Honestly i didn’t mind edgy tone
They took a risk and it worked out :)
How do you think I feel? I’m so disappointed that Naughty Dog had to make intense games like Uncharted and the Last of us. I enjoyed the old school colorful cartoon platforming games. But it’s not fair they had to move on and make realistic dark and griddy games. I wish they’d bring back the fun cartoon games. And not put so much blood and gore in them.
I am with you
I am hoping that Sucker Punch makes Sly Cooper games after GoT
Tell me about it.
@Sir Galahad Well Jak 4 was cancelled for it
@Sir Galahad Yeah, but it would be nice to get Jak and Daxter back
And to me game series went dark after first one
I mean Jak was tortured and experimented in prison, his racing rival was blown to bits and came back as cyborg, Jak witnessedhis own father without even him realising who Jak was...
But I quess it was not mature enough, because it had jokes
If only Naughty Dog would get a new CEO and President that would be willing to order this company to make cartoony games sometimes.
I really wish that they could do both cartoony and realistic graphic games.
From what I've heard; the concept they went with for the 1st Jak & Daxter game didn't do so well. The American audience didn't find Jak or his universe very appealing and the same can be said for the Japanese audience, it was sort of a mishmash of both kinds of style which might explain why they went with the tonal shift for the sequel. Jak literally and figuratively felt like he had no voice.
Thanks for sharing Tabreez!
The fact that ratchet and clank might’ve had something to do with this really doesn’t surprise me. Especially since jak 2 and 3 used gun mechanics of R&C.
R&C bombed because the team lost touch with how the series started. Not to mention it tried being an awful movie tie-in game.
Aimless Savant yeah but the ps4 exclusive was still really good overall. Especially for something based on a movie of all things. But still much prefer the ps2 original.
@@BrennySpain I mean, visually, and in-game mechanically it is perfect. I however hate the butchering of the original plotline. In other terms, they made it so much worse than even R&C 3's plot.
Aimless Savant what was wrong with up your arsenal? That was an awesome game I think and probably my second fav in the series after a crack in time. Dr nefarious is one awesome villain!
@@BrennySpain it wasn't bad, that goes to the spinoff/side R&C games. I simply see it as lesser than 1 and 2. It simply had too much repetitive gameplay for my taste. The whole Tyhhranoid invasion thing defending a set of maps with objectives which don't change drastically from planet to planet. Honestly felt like tack-on stuff using the mechanics of R&C3's multiplayer in the singleplayer. Hehehe. Mentioning the side games also has me remember Size Matters does make reference to Up Your Arsenal. A "trash planet" being the remains of the Tyhhranoid planet Tyhhranosis.
They should make a prequel game titled “MAR”, with the same font and color as all the Jak titles
This is a really awesome idea I have never heard. Or "JAK IV: the Legend of Mar"
Day 1 buy from me.
I'm a massive Uncharted fan, and the evolution of that series totally speaks to your point. Uncharted Drake's Fotune compared to Uncharted 4 A Thiefs End is a notable difference in tone for sure. I think it was gradual enough and the story was strong enough to warrant a slow shift in tone, but I just thought that was an interesting thing. :) -TheSafeHouse
My only slight issue with the series (namely 3 and 4), is how the world opened up to mythical and mystical things happening and then 3 was an illusion for the enemies but the world was still hidden (so its half fake and half real) and 4 just being more realistic
I liked the mixture of realism and fantasy in these games so it bums me out less fantasy was put in them as time went on
jak 2 was my favourite game when i was younger. Find it amazing how it was the original concept for the last of us? pretty cool. Bring back jak
Thanks for sharing!
This series in the sequels never felt like a GTA clone, for me it just felt organic for the characters to grow up and evolve into what they became. I hope Jak and Daxter do return in a new game
Oh I see :O
Awesome video!
I remember when I was in high school, I was asked to be in a focus group to help give them info for Jak 3. It was such an awesome and fun experience for me! :)
i miss jak
We all do!
Yikes, I'd never seen that concept art of Jak 4 before. I'm glad they decided they decided against it. I think I'll have nightmares about realistic Daxter now.
Whilst I know a lot of people personally who really didn't care for the stylistic change in Jak II, I think ND correctly read the market and realised that audiences were growing tired of collectathons by 2002 and were hungry for completely open worlds. I personally feel that maybe it went a bit too edgy at times, but the high quality of Jak II and 3 meant that it didn't matter that much.
The game's do suffer a little bit in retrospect, as the design of 3D open worlds was still a relatively new concept for a lot of developers. Haven city, particularly in Jak II, does feel a little lacking in things to do as you go from one mission to the next. This was improved in the 3rd game however, as they varied the locations you explore: Spargus city, Haven city, and the Wastelands. It often surprises me just how big Jak 3 is.
Overall, I love all three games - even Jak X/combat racing despite how frustrating that game can be at times. I think ND did the right thing at the time, but nowadays I wish they'd unwind a little bit and return to they're sillier roots what with all the leaks I'm sure everyone has heard about by now, but I won't get into that here.
Great video Vivi. :)
Thanks for sharing always!
I like feeling if the first game.
Ancient times, precursors, eco, nature and most importantly Sandover village was sound and well, compared to what happened to it in the start of second game.
I got so sad and deppressed about it :-(
I would like to see how second or just in general how, what jak abd daxter would do, if they didn't go with travel in time thing.
It immidietly reminds me of this map that I git with ps2 copy, what secrets this beatifull world was hiding?
I do not know maybe it would be different if Jak was talkative from the begginning or if they got with first, old concept and He woukd start talking in the next games, who knows.
The only things that makes me sad about Jak series, is how people's attitude and environment changed.
To Jak and Daxter TPL I can sit and play whenever I want, I can relax, meanwhile to other 2 I....I simply can not, it's quite opposite.
I understand that they did it to, how should I put, they take a risk, and it pay off.
Thank You for the great video Vivi
I agree with you. The first game was amazing. The second one lost me...I don't like how it changed so much. I feel like the first game could've been popular if they delved more into that world
@@alexh6767 I also felt lime I was part of this world, where in next games, even with knowing story, I still I'm conflicted with how should I feel about what happened.
I sometimes feel like Jak and Daxter was a sacriface for a greater good methaphor- I mean, they wanted to change something in their games, and it so happened that Jak and Daxtet was on the way.
Of course this thinking may go to "maybe this, maybe that would happen if x and y would swapt".
So I end here.
Pretty coincidental how jak and Daxter 1 released in 2001 and jak 2 released in 2003, two years apart. The amount of time it took for Daxter to find jak at the beginning am I right?
Unpopular opinion , I actually like tone shift from the first game to the second game. I don't think any of the tone styles is inherently better per see. But it is just on a worldbuilding level, I like it. To see the serene world of Jak And Daxter transformed into tore down world of Jak 2 was quite a twist. It also expanded the world in an interesting direction.
I have been playing Jak 3 on PS4 and was just thinking about this. They wanted a more badass Jak for Jak 2. Not only that but the game is so hard 😭
For 15 years i ve hoped for a Jak 4, but seeing how naughty dog has fallen, i now prey to god (even though im an atheist) that they may never touch Jak and Daxter.
Druckmann who is now celebrated as a great storyteller, was responsible for the atrocious The lost frontier story, so its obvious that there is no one at current naughty dog that has any connection with jak and daxter.
I didn't know that... Damn
i hope nintendo buy jak from naughty dog hunt down old team give they studio so we can get new jak and daxter game
:/
Naughty Dog didnt make The Lost Frontier High Impact Games did whered you get your fake news Druckman had no involvment woth that game whatsoever
@@rayman17578 naughty dog begun working on that game. Neil druckmann is credited in the game for original desing/story.
The original idea of tlf is all naughty dog, they just couldnt finish it cause they were also working on uncharted, so they gave it to high impact games to put it together.
Back in 2008 there were leaked early cutscenes of the game here on youtube, the graphics were closer to the Ps2 naughty dog style, and they even had the original Jak voice actor, Mike erwin, reprising his role, but apparently, high impact games replaced him with the other guy in the final version.
The whole monstrocity known as the lost frontier, was naughty dogs fault originally. So even back in 2008, the guys there had already lost all touch with the series.
I’m so glad you’re finally talking about this topic. This is something that has always interested me with the Jak and Daxter. But I think this did help to fav the way for the tone of uncharted and the last of us. You know what I mean Vivi?
Yeah the way they transitioned from one genre to another really helped them figure what to do more.
Viví, the song in your outro for this video, what is it? So so many years ago I saw a music video here on CZcams someone made of Jak And Daxter with that SAME song, and I remember Jak was turning to his light form as that song was playing the video. I’m talking almost a decade ago
Jak 2 was Dark Souls before Dark Souls was a thing
you have to be joking right, because the difficulty in Jak 2 is a joke compared to any Souls like game
@@ghost656metal8 how about Water Slums mission ? Or one where you have to drop bombs in Eco wheles at Strip Mine ? Oh and let’s not forget Racing
I don't know if this is a regional thing or not, but I've always pronounced the Pri part of "Privy" the same way it's pronounced in words like "Principle" or "Pritt Stick". Now before anyone gives me hell, I'm not meaning to be a smartass or anything, I'm just informing.
Bro I was never weirded out by the changes of the series it all seemed so natural to me, the tone as the series went along felt like it be reflecting Jak's age as he got older growing up from teenage boy to young man, it definitely GTA III and Ratchet & Clank what influenced them, yo the series allowed for more deeper storytelling and mature themes, focus on gunplay and the third-person shooter genre, not everyone take these risks like ND did, yo u feel like the next games really expand upon what the first game had done I don't think I'd feel the same way at all if ND stuck to J&D 1's style for the series, Jak set up and layed the foundation for ND's future series like Uncharted, I love all three of those games, Jak II is my favourite outta the trilogy bro
I wouldn't mind seeing Jak and daxter dark and gritty I kind of wish it had an RPG leveling up green Eco health and defense blue eco speed and energy yellow Eco dexterity red eco strength light eco holy (good) dark eco unholy (evil)
the lost frontier had some rpg elements :)
@@PopeRogerFree we don't talk about about that one
I miss Jak and Daxter. I hope it gets a remake.
TPL needs one!
The other reason Naughty Dog would've struggled to make Jak for the PS1 is because they already had to hack the PS1 just to get Crash Bandicoot to work on that console, and a surprising amount of console power went solely into rendering Crash Bandicoot, as well as the levels which even with Naughty Dog's famous procedural generation techniques still had to be individually loaded (hence every crash game having a level selection area). The Jak games on the other hand had to have 0 loading screens (not including the initial loading screen), so ultimately a Jak game on the PS1 would've probably frozen on launch, or lagged like crazy.
Interesting!
I dont really blame them for going with the realistic cinematic route, since that what made them into a big AAA studio, the more expensive the game looks the more it sold, then more money given for the next project by the publisher, same can be said about Sucker Paunch because hardly anyone know about the studio until they made the Infamous series, and now they are working on Ghost of Tsushima which is a bigger project thanks to the success of the last Infamous game(sadly for me).
Business is their priority at the end of the day.
Finally vivi a jak video. Thank you.
No problem!
VTNVIVI do you think there will be another jack and daxter game or do you think it’s over for good
If we're looking at ND, it's basically over.
LOVED THIS VIDEO! I don't want to act weird just asking cause I want to start my own CZcams channel and actually upload, do you need to have a certain amount of subscribers to actually put advertisments on your video?
Thanks! I'll leave you this blog:
youtube-creators.googleblog.com/2018/01/additional-changes-to-youtube-partner.html
@@VtnVivi appreciate it!
I kind of played the J&D series backwards as a kid by staring off with renting the second game first (before getting my own copy) followed by Jak 3. It wasnt until after Jak X did I play The Precursor Legacy and remember how taken aback I was. Felt like an entirely different universe apart from the main characters which at the time I didnt really like. But eventually returned to the game and now appreciate its uniqueness much more eventhough the sequel remains my favourite. Still I dont get why N D hasn't given the rights/license away to another company like they did with Daxter and the lost frontier. You would think after all these years we would have gotten our wish already lol
Currently replaying the trilogy for the 1000th time and feeling as though im robbed of a potentially amazing extended story. “Realistic” or not I feel we deserve a new jak game however it’s decided to be made.
The grit meter made me think of something. On a semi unrelated matter you can tell they didn't really know what they were talking about when they said they weren't really up to "cartoony games" anymore since that ignores...literally everything in the series after the first game..?
Cartoony thing Scherr brought up a couple of years ago if I recall correctly....well that was after the Jak saga.
Naughty Dog was losing members around 2007, that was the second reason for abandoning Lost Frontier.
Also could explain why they couldn't handle two projects at the time.
A jak and daxter remake would be interesting
YES!
Jak 1 sold way more copies than Jak 2 and 3. So it really isn't clear that it was a good decision from a business perspective.
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You have great point VIVI Jak 4 is doesn't feel like I don't like new concept of Jak 4 Daxter, he look like a Rip-off of Puss n Boots 11:11 look at his cat face. Other Daxter look like a aggressive Tod from the fox and the hound.
Hey VV can you do a theory on what happens when daxter fell into dark echo like what did it do and how did it not kill him and and how acron was the only person who could change him back
Well it was said that dark eco had ottsel dna.
VTNVIVI oh didn’t know that just when playing jak 1 that thought came to mind like and what happened when he fell into the dark eco pit and why acron was the only person who could turn him back and how we would be abale to
Another Jak & Daxter is in development btw for the PS5.
WAIT WHAT ? Are you telling the truth ?
rrright. you got a source on that?
is that true?
False
Source?
Naugthy dog was like "Wait, Insomniac has GUNS in their 3D-platformer?? Why didn't we think of that??"
This is going to sound stupid and crazy but hear me out. I quit my aprentiship as an aprentice mechanic around 6 months ago so that I could goto University to study a Bachelor of Digital Media. I have to complete STEPS at Uni before starting the Bachelor because I dropped out of high school, it will give me the entry requirements for the Bachelor. I only have 3 more assessments left to complete STEPS. A long term goal for me is to eventually work at Naughty Dog so that I can push the idea of Jak 4. Keep an eye on the Jak and Daxter Sub-Redit as that will be where I post updates on my journey. Again I know that may sound crazy but just remember, it's only a goal while I work towards my dream job.
By the way, great video.
Happy journey :D And thanks!
You know, I had a dream about a new Jak & Daxter Collection, and Jak 4 was in it.
It had some fun costumes, and parts you'd put on Jak, but the plot involved time travel to the other games.
Awesome dream!
I'd love to hear more on that canceled Jak 4.
I think I did make a video in the past somewhere...
I personally think every video game is company is in kahoots with each other. As a young gamer since battlefield 1942 I feel like many games take off of each other's progress or In company trading I'll never know.
To me, the big difference in Naughty Dogs games were sources of influence. The Crash Bandicoot games were pretty much inspired by various saturday morning cartoons, the Jak games were inspired a bit by comics but also by steampunk and cyberpunk style Sci Fi (there's a lot of steampunk in TPL and a lot of cyberpunk in all the other Jak games), the Uncharted games were inspired by hollywood treasure hunter films (Indiana Jones always springs to mind), and The Last of Us borrowed from survival horror films and TV shows.
5:03 Who the bloody hell made THAT screen-shot?! That's the wrong iteration of Spyro if we're talking Insomniac Games! (I'm not saying to use the PS1 design, but at least classic-timeline Spyro in some capacity.)
You mean the article screenshot? That was from Moriarty's article.
Oh no no.... It's an ''art work'' made for the History Of Naughty Dog, not by me.
Damn Jak 4 looking like Cloud from crisis core and dexter like red XIII XD
Hehehehe
If I had the money I would develop the next Jak game However not everyone has that kind of money....
I feel ya!
How much would it actually cost to buy it from them anyway
@@JaelenTv Too much....However if i could i would make it a game that will to Quote Egoraptor "Blow your F^&#ing MIND!!!".
Hey Garren!
Hey :D
I would LOVE to see Jak & Daxter look realistic in their next game!
I like the cartoony aesthetic :P
If Jack and Daxter does return it'll be completely different again
If it returns, I'd imagine a remake of TPL :)
@@VtnVivi TPL?
I would love for the series to get rebooted on ps5 and Jak can get gritty. A bunch of stuff goes down in Jak 2 and beyond. People dying, secrets uncovered. There were stakes ya know? But I want it to get real. Bring out our emotions. Expand on the eco powers, expand on weapon upgrades. And for god sakes explore the lore. I love how they shifted from a collectathon to this smack in the face of realization of what their colorful, playful world has become this oppressive nightmare.
Jak doesn't need to go full on gritty, but more deeper lore? Sure!
Naughty dog probably show us jax and daxter getting there head bash in part four
I loved Jak and Daxter, in fact I am a huge fan of them, it’s too bad they are in the ground for who knows how long, if they rise one day though, I will be waiting to enjoy what’s next even if it’s a reboot.
What this calls for is a new passionate team.
They should make something in the middle, not so realistic not so cartoon-ish
5:12 erm....that's not insomniac's Spyro
Heheh nope. That's a picture from Moriarty's article.
I hope that someone makes good enough Jak and Daxter game in Dreams to get Sony interested
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The Precursor Legacy is still my favourite game of all time
I think Jak might get what crash got and I feel when people see that they might thinks it’s a new game in their own eye and I feel like Jak has that potential to get the audience attention, because it’s game play and world view is amazing. I think and I hope that it will happen when the ps5 comes out.
A re-imagining or remake of TPL would be lovely!
VTNVIVI I honestly agree I would probably piss myself if that happens
Last Naughty Dog titles ive played tbh
Your awesome
No U!
@@VtnVivi 😁
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Jak 1 was by far the best. it was bright and colorful, and the exploration and collecting was fun! The entire world was connected with no loading for the most part. Jak 2 stuffed you in this huge congested city where nothing happened, but tons of npc walking around getting in the way of your hover craft.
I just can't compare myliking of Jak TPL to 2 and 3 :)
I wish they made a few more platformers like TPL before the shift. Similar to Crash 2 Spyro 2 etc like if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Biggest disappointment to me.
Honestly I hope jak and daxter come back if we can get crash, spyro, hell even bubsy then why not jak, I think they should do a remake trilogy to see if there is still interest in the franchise
Absolutely!
I think it would still be cool to see something new than not another part even if it was going to be realistic I think it would look cool to see anyways
I just want Jak and Daxter to be handled by a new team, one who has the drive and passion.
@@VtnVivi yes I hope their is I have passion for those who make the game and loves to make them. And I'm waiting for another ratchet and clank game because I have a big heart for that game hope from insomiac games and Sony to make another. Either way thanks man 👊.
Jak 2 felt grittier than Jak 3 tbh.
They need to make a sequel to precursor legacy. Ill make a diagram. Original triology TPL, Jak 2, Jak 3. New trilogy , TPL, ????, ????. Have the new trilogy be an alternate reality where they never touch the rift gate, but still explore other lands. Play as young Jak.
Honestly i hardly care why they did what they did, it was brilliant and i want more
GTA, eh? It’s always usually the reason behind a lot of game influences isn’t it?
Yep!
Must be unpopular opinion of mine but I really prefer the first game over the others. I tried getting into Jak 2 but I didn't like it
I understand ya! That's why TPL I don't compare, it's just so unique.
You know, if Naughty Dog still keeps the rights to Jak and Daxter and stay on track with Uncharted and The Last of Us, I wish that Naughty Dog would make Jak and Daxter: TPL Rated T as a bit mature and dark ,and they still have Jak and Daxter continue their adventures. Which is that they only focus on the culture in Sandover Village. That's the same for Sucker Punch keeping the rights to Sly Cooper, Sucker Punch would still use the Animation Render of Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time to make Sly 4 without putting any cliffhangers and they would still make more Sly Cooper Games in future consoles like concluding the original series and rebooting the games with a fresh new take.
Hmm.... I don't think TPL needs a T rating. As for re-imagining it and making it more ''edgy'' or darker, I wouldn't be against it.
You're right, it would be Rated E10 while edgy and darker for Sly Cooper Re-imagining and Jak and Daxter re-imagining
This video just got recomened to me, but why does everyone in the comment section not understand the simple concept of Sony own's both the Jak and Daxter ip and Naughty Dog, so Naughty Dog can't just sell of the rights to Jak and Daxter
It’s kinda like with the Sonic franchise. The Sonic games are bright and colorful, and Shadow The Hedgehog is the dark and edgy counterpart. Just like with Jak 2 and 3 to Jak 1.
I reaaally don't get the edgy narrative for 3. 2 definitely pushed for Jak to be eternally pissed off at praxis for his TWO YEAR LONG TORTURE. Jak 3 struck a good balance. Jak was a much more well rounded character, comes off a bit headstrong.
maybe give big red botton to do the next jak & daxter game, yeah i know they made the wii u sonic boom game but they bounce back with the arcslinger
i really dont want naughty dog to ruin the franchise after the fiasco leaks of the last of us 2
Like I always say, Jak & Daxter deserves a new passionate team. ND these days just really doesn't look interested and let's not forget the studio is not like before :/
Them not doing a Jak 4 cause it didn't feel right to them, fine. But why not a proper remaster, this series deserves so much more respect than it gets with these lazy ports. Especially on PS4 i expected it to get the HD treatment that Crash Bandicoot got. But no, instead we literally get to play the PS2 version running on an emulator, just on better hardware.
If they wouldnt have shifted during Jak 2 I honestly probably wouldnt have liked the series as much The Precursor Legacy is great but not my huge favorite first Jak game I ever played was Jak 3
I just can't my love for TPL with the rest :P
I am not a fan of what became of Jak and Daxter...I mean honestly talk about your depression type of video games. Seriously what was wrong over there that they had to make it so depressing.
Agreed, first game had so much potential to succeed in its elements but it was completely overhauled. Wasn't a fan at all.
:/
Edgy and level design tone (Jungles being bright and Deserts being dry and dark) I've always found interesting with Naughty Dog. Got to say though playing Jak 2&3 to the end I thought they were ok. But GTA vs. Jak 2 or Sunset Overdrive for tone, theme, setting and enjoyment has been tough for me (GTA being something I'm least familiar with only owning Liberty City Stories on PSP for cheap out of curiosity just recenty) as someone into bright games mostly but experiencing a mix of genres and tones out of curiosity and boredom I think they all are fine but nothing I'd come back to even compared to more bizarre or better fictional worlds. The Eco powers and world were great but the mission design just isn't something I find enjoyable to return to and I have only played them around 2012 besides briefly owning them much earlier.
I see :O
@@VtnVivi The Jak series has been good for tone, eco powers/guns and world building but I find the mission design of open worlds from not only this era or modern games just not always being the most memorable or engaging. Just how they jump between side and main story I get confused with at times. But Naughty Dog have done a good job with them from what I do remember, they are impressive and deserve the praise. I do go for some open-ish worlds but usually linear games. That and while I used to own Jak 1&3 briefly I never properly had them until 2012 and played through 2/&3 to story endings not 100%. So some context and a better rewording. Also not having played Crash till Nsane Trilogy, only owning Crash Team Racing for some reason, Uncharted had for a while and Last of Us just not clicking with me so I don't have nostalgia or the same appreciation for them due to the time I played them. Still great video as always Vivi.
I would love to reboot/re imagine the j&d games, maybe like a open world rpg style taking eco to upgrade your stats like in TLF with you gaining new(or old) abilities as you progress and level up(blue eco used to power machines and increase speed, red to coat you in strength and fire, green to give you a boost in health or cure illness, yellow to give you or your weapons a ranged attack[dbz ki blast orsmall aoe blast on your spin kick], light to give...light and guide you through your journey[keeps you sane as dark is constantly trying to control you and make you evil], and dark to give you more power at the cost of health/sanity[more evil you become the more out of control and less willing to help others, eventually joining the big bad and ending the game if you are not treated with light eco]
I wouldn't mind that :)
Jak 2 was also inspired by Grand theft auto i think
lol i just write the comment and u got into it in whe video xD
Hehe :P
Will naughty Dog make a new jak and Daxter game
If Nauhhty Dog did bring Jak and Daxter back they'd probably make them a gay couple
When haven't focus groups ruined everything?
except the game was good...
@@mayday-tz4dv I'm talking about the long run of the series.
Tbf. While I do agree going for a realistic tone for Jak 4 wouldn't feel like the Jak and Daxter. The two concept are from top middle to right. Daxter looked freakin awesome in that
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are you joking ? this is not awesome 😂
@@Rachebart one man trash is one man treasure
The answer is money.
i would have prefered an expansion of the JaD universe...Jak 2 seemed like a completely different game :/ bring the powercells back !
In all honesty, I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I felt as if the Jak sequels were to Jak and Daxter as the Matrix sequels were to the original Matrix. By fundamentally changing the gameplay on a game engine not built with shooters in mind, they've made it exponentially harder and less enjoyable. If they decided to make a new GTA clone and left Jak and Daxter behind, I would've been all for that.
Why would kids at the age of 8 play inappropriate games like GTA?
I wonder how they even got their hands on the game....
@@VtnVivi Maybe they stole it from their parents and play it secretly.
Wow the last of us is trash couldn’t get into it and didn’t care about the characters
Jak and Daxter kicks Crachs ass
Given how they have gone with waaay more weird with their politics and have to have “No Fun” games with ultra grittiness and realism I don’t think I would want another Jak and Daxter game from Naughty Dog as I don’t think they would do the next game justice as they would probably kill off Jak in a brutal fashion like they did with Joel and replace him with either Ashlin or Keira because “Diversity”.
So as much as I would like to have a Jak and Daxter Game I know Naughty Dog now would most likely just piss people off.
So we both agree on the new team aspect :)
Naughty & santa monica are absolutely great companies
God of war reboot was epic
so why not jak reboot
Reboot in what style though?
@@VtnVivi 10:56 Jak 4 common he looks badass
Not the tone change itself, but the multiple changes made to the series after The Precursor Legacy was indeed for the best. A lot of purist like to fantasize that Jak should have remained a colorful collect-a-thon, without guns and all that, but the series would have definitely sunken into obscurity, with likely not even a third installment. Not even a "darker" The Precursor Legacy sequel would have kept the series afloat, as tone alone isn't the only factor that'd contribute to the series success or failure. Anyway, then all the comments about bringing the series back would have started far earlier. It'd also have been way harder to bring back that style of platformers in this day and age, which again supports the argument for why the changes made to the series was for the best. The modern Jak has enough multi-genre variety to appeal to business healthy demographics if it was brought back. Developers can tell an engrossing narrative while also having strong gunplay, with strafing and everything, as that's the foundation the sequels set.
Imagine if we were to instead live in the world the purist clearly want, wherein *TPL2* happened and Sony Interactive Entertainment tried to reboot Jak TODAY the way it happened . . .13 years ago . . . (a completely different time, mind you) for the series to hold its ground. Naturally, people would then expect for a collect-a-thon platformer *series* to return as a collect-a-thon platformer, since unlike the Jak we actually do have in reality, it never was a collect-a-thon platformer series; that only lasted for one sole game.
Looking at Crash and Spyro remakes, at least remaking TPL this day and age will appeal to an audience.
@@VtnVivi Those aren't good comparisons. Jak never even came remotely close to the fame and popularity that's associated with Crash. Spyro may have been under Crash as well, but like Crash and unlike Jak, Crash and Spyro are as popular as they are as a series. The Precursor Legacy isn't a series, it's a single game. With Jak's inferior popularity, it'd be even harder than it already is to bring something like that back for the long term. Remember, Sly and Ratchet(?) left the collectathon field two generations ago as well.
People need to stop interchanging collectathons and platformers, too. They're two different things, even though they've often existed in the same game before. It's mainly the platforming aspect that's held up well and there's still a healthily market for, not pure collectathons.
First the first time EVER i`m glad we didn't get Jak4. Until NDI fires Neil cuckman. Painful to have to say this.
Ouch :/
Solid work all around, nothing to complain on the subjective parts, but there is something about your intonation and pronounciation that irks me. It's like you are from the U.S East Coast at the one beginning of the sentence, then from Poland at the mid-sentence. Like the way you say "privy" at 10.11 . 99% of humanity pronounces it as "pre-ve", not "praiwy". I really can't wrap my head around it. Possibly it's just my psychosis? This is not to be regarded as a criticism per se, i'm just baffled.
Jak 2 was only made to stick with the era and target demographic are getting older
And influence :)
I would prefer if it was just "another 3D platformer"...
Jak 2 and 3 don't feel to me like Jak and daxter, the game was suposed to be fun, happy and beautiful. The they turn into a dark game with discusting and horrible places.
If they wanted to change just make another game, not change the game we know, this makes me upset
I don't know if this is a regional thing or not, but I've always pronounced the Pri part of "Privy" the same way it's pronounced in words like "Principle" or "Pritt Stick". Now before anyone gives me hell, I'm not meaning to be a smartass or anything, I'm just informing.