2016 GMC Sierra Denali HD vs 2002 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Mashup Review - Old vs New Ep.1
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I'll keep my 2003. Reminds me of a better world.
Yes
My 02 6.0 gasser makes me so dang happy.
Let's hear it for the older trucks!
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+tom dickey you're one of them huh?
+tom dickey I`m with you..ican`t stand the newer trucks.There just big and bulky for nothing..I have an 2001 Ls Chevy Blazer..It`s body style blows aaway any newer truck body style..
+350toocute Agreed! Old trucks rule!
350toocute HAHHAAh whatever truck someone has is always the last of the real trucks Funny how 2001 trucks are now being touted as real trucks. In 16 years the 2016 models will be the last of the real truce. You guys are funny.
And here I am still pondering 'upgrading' to the "old" truck.
ordinaryJeff that’s diesel trucks for you 💰 💰 💰
Exactly why I bought an 05
love you're videos
Your videos are awesome!!
didnt expect to see you here
Was thinking about your truck when I saw this.
Dude your truck is better than the GMC
Hmmmm...let's see...I paid $7,200 cash for my 02 Duramax, which had a straight pipe, duramaxtuner controller, and enough power to pull down my house. Not to mention it had flawless interior and exterior. I added a $200 touch screen stereo with navigation, and some cheap Kicker speakers. For the $60,000 difference in price, I'm ok with not having heated and cooled leather seats.
$7200 is an absolute steal on that truck. Around here they are all $11k +
6011 House r
Who cares if you have straight pipe?
Island Mike are you really this stupid?
You can have heated/cooled seats with a $75 kit, so you can have those too for cheap.
That 2002 Silverado will probably outlast that 2016 though
The engine isn't the same completely and older trucks were made better
Jesse Hart By older he means simpler. For instance, my uncle owns an old Silverado..That thing has a 4speed and it's very simplistic with a lot of the components made out of metal. As for my dad's newer Sierra, that thing is complicated af and plastic is everywhere lol. It's the build quality, son.
Lb7’s (01-04) duramax’s had a huge issues with injectors failing and melting pistons.
Probably not
Sorry, like humans, life expectancy keeps going up.
Makes me miss my dad's '01 duramax. He had 356,000mi on it when he traded for a new one in 2016. Constantly got 17mpg around town unloaded, and 21 on the highway and often towed at or above max GVWR.
Love that 02 Silverado guys!!! That's when trucks were simply trucks. NOT overpriced rolling luxury homes with bells & whistles we did't need or want...
A brand new truck back in 2002 was less than 30k, and that was a very reasonable price for everybody.
@@blackchevy4756 no it wasn't why do people always say that 😂 my 2002 was 78k I've still got the dealer receipt my 02 duramax cost 38k because it had been bought once and brought back with 2000 miles
A truck you can go to work in. Work all day getting dirty and climb in and drive home. If you buy $60,000+ truck you are going to not want to get it dirty. I miss work trucks.
Back in 2003, my uncle bought his 2003 GMC sierra 3500hd slt crew cab 4x4 with lb7 duramax for like $36000. In 2020, a new 2020 gmc sierra slt 3500hd diesel will cost you $60,000.
@@ucsasinkings8296 $38,000 in 2002 is equivalent to $55,949.56 today.
That generation GM trucks are very reliable I still see many on the road today.
I have a gas 4.3 v6 2002 Sierra with 215,000 miles stock engine and tranny definitely buying a duramax and my next truck.
Music Lover ummm actually they are very expensive to one do to engine design. The LLY was not reliable after about 140k do to injector and cp3 pressure pump problems.
tlt40s&w 70 if you have a diesel , you egr delete and Dpf delete and efi live tune , its just what you do , and the LLY and LBZ and LB7 are all GREAT engines , without efi live tunes they will still last 250k without anything done , my LLY had a bully dog PG and a efi live tune , and I boughtbit at 230k miles and it has 360k miles now , runs like a charm still
Don't buy a diesel unless you have plenty of extra cash, just buy a vortec 6.0
I've got the 6.0 gasoline version of that 2002. Mine is even the same color. I have the double cab 8' bed. It has 231,000 miles on it. Original engine and tranny. Best truck I've ever owned.
I love the body style of the 2002
If like them if they didn't rust to shit
+MN IceFisherman I feel you. My dad has one and just this summer he spent a lot of money on putting in new rocker panels since the old ones rusted to shit, had the frame under coated after scaling off the rust and had the rocker as well as the door panels coated with that egg shell type stuff. Not sure what it's called. He's refusing to spend $60-$70K on a new truck.
+Levi Emerick yeah I posted a video on my channel of are red Silverado you should watch it... It's sad
Matthew Mohs I got a 01 that's spotless with 139,000 miles lol.
Yup obs is better than the 2015 nbs.
funny how mr. truck reacted on riding on Andres truck. "im a cowboy who wears hats and boots but hate getting dirty"
danielfred16 !
Someone ought to tell MR. TRUCK that hats, vests, and boots does not make you a cowboy !!
Ole Conway Twitty song "DON'T CALL HIM A COWBOY TILL YOU SEE HIM RIDE !" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😁😉👍✌
Yeah he's a pus..
He ain't no damn country boy for sure.
Here in west Texas the cowboys normally wear tuxeodo's, top hats, white gloves and spats. Never a piece of cowshit or dust anywhere to be found on them. When they get in at night, they don their silk pj's and robes.....sit down to a "dinner" of foi de gras and the finest champagne. Their horses float off the ground since they can't tolerate dirt either. This guy is a piece of work.
danielfred16 hahahahhahaha
You are not "towing" the same weight but you are driving the same amount of weight down the road given both vehicles and the same trailer are being used in the test. The "gross combination weight" is the same.
This was the best test of them all! I too own a 02 DMAX with 300,000 miles on it and it still pulls like a brand new truck! Thanks guys!
You probably do not have any of the emissions related problems. Do you use the regular diesel at pump or use some additives as well
@@rahulrane1658 I have no government's emission regulated crap and my truck is straight piped from the factory. It's stock. I only add fuel additives to help the injectors stay clean. As beautiful as these new trucks are these days it's hard not buying one. Those prices keep me away.
10 years from now that LB7 will be towing that LML to the shop (unless he deletes it).
you are definitely right about that
jfdb59 typical guy who just wants a excuse to have a stupidly loud truck and roll coal
Logan Graham or a stupidly reliable truck for 1/4 of the price 🤺
What's worse:
- lower emissions but higher fuel usage (GMC Sierra) or
- higher emissions and lower fuel usage (2002 Chevy)
What if they removed the emissions junk, and instead focused on improving fuel economy, meaning that the lower amount of fuel used will result in less pollution and therefor removing the need for the emissions equipment?
1950s are long gone.
@@takeadayofff sadly
But increasing fuel economy means less taxes for the state, less profit for the companies...we'll push that off to a later year.
Bodgy Aussie
You can’t get something for nothing.
Amazing if people just used there God given brains
1999-2006 gmc and chevy trucks look so much better than the new ones
Yep.
What about early 2007?
Dodge 318 Cummins They are great too.
Yeah for sure
Agreed!
I think it's more of the emissions thing holding the mileage back
Exactly
+larry Spiller It blows quite alot of minds when you tell people that emissions =/= mileage
+larry Spiller but the LML are better tuned!!!! give a chance and put efi live on that lb7
exactly, diesel (semi)trucks were getting 8 mpg and the oil lobby harassed the EPA to choke the diesel with emissions under the guise of "saving the environment" needless to say we all lost fuel economy. I'm back to 5.5 loaded in the big truck. It's ALWAYS about the money.
Robert Polkamp
Of course, those 8mpg days were back when people sort of accepted cabovers as being the most aerodynamic machines for the job (to the point that nasa even tested with it a bit), Those really, really long semi tractors are to blame too :P
atta boy Andre! Real men keep the old trucks running! Hope to see more with that truck soon!
I had the exact same truck, an '02 Chevy Duramax - extra cab long bed. It was an early Duramax with 300hp and 500 ft. lbs of torque which was enormous back then. It was very reliable and comfortable. I constantly checked my side view mirrors because with the addition of a weight distributing hitch, I barely felt the trailer behind me. I added a tuner (chip) and picked up some more power and I still managed 18 mpg HWY with a 6" lift. Diesel is the way to go and the Duramax has a record of reliable service. Great video!
Who else notice that he left the gas cap open😂
better fuel mileage towing MORE weight . This why I keep my old 05 . Just a few things to fix it and it'll be as good as new, or better
That should be the idea of all cars, but we are not in the 60's sadly.
Id rather get the 2002, be dept free=)
lmao true that... 60k+ for extra gadgets.. I'll pass.
MrMister1227 gico save 15 percent or more on your car insurance
Yes.. I'll take that 02 with no prob I'll pass on the newer bling bling truck.. I use my trucks for work
yep spend $200 on a nice stereo $300 on speakers $300 on the sound insulation and have $1,000 worth of interior work done to fix the leather seats and put in new carpet boom it's pretty good shape and think of how much gasoline you could buy with the $45,000 you save
Dept? Department of free?
I am quite happy that they are doing old vs. new. This is what I like to see.
I'd honestly rather have the '02. Looks a lot better.
For a old truck it hauls some ass in towing and 0-60
You guys should do A 2016 cummins vs a 1st gen cummins
that would be an awesome comparison! my first gen gets 20+ all day long! my 06 gets 15 if I'm lucky
+Gavin Steiling My 2011 Cummins/Ram would get 21 on the highway all day long.
I forgot to mention I live at 8000 feet elevation...
2016 would get 1mpg 1st 1000mpg
do a 2002 8.1 against the 2002 diesel
The 2002 duramax trucks have always been my favorites. My dad has a 3500HD that has just over 106,000 miles so it has a while to go. Hasn't done any major work to it engine wise but over the summer we had to put some money into it. We cut out and replaced the old rocker panels since they rusted out and put new and stronger ones in. Then scaled 46 pounds of rust off of the frame and had it undercoated. Then had that eggshell type covering on the rocker and door panels. I don't know what that covering is called but it reminds me of it for some reason. I think some know what I'm talking about. My dad refuses to spend $60-$70K on a new truck and I don't blame him.
Now think of the difference between the two in repair/maintenance cost after warranty runs out.
+Woods Clan nice but jeep wood is right the more tech in a truck the more pofs there are
I love my 2006 Chevy 2500 HD. I plan on keeping it forever.
The coffin is already paid for, just need to buy a double plot :-)
After 14 years gm is still convinced wheels are square
Who would pay 60k+ for a damn pickup truck be real people.
The Jones would...
Stupid people man
Maybe not everyone can afford one
Tax wright baby
The poors are at it again
That guy sounds like a dbag for not wanting to ride in a older "not new" truck. I would take that older one because that new one looks too flashy.
@olds767 probably cause the host has to be in the front and hes too fat to sit in the back seat. Not trolling, just he couldnt be comfortable.
Now for 7.3 vs 6.7
nah lets go older 6.9idi and the new 6.7
+The student Technician 6.4-6.7
Dodge 318 Cummins I'd like that too
+KohlerCoalRoller i had the same idea
7.3 anyday
This video makes me feel old. Also I am nostalgic for the 2002 GMCs
great video guys. you should do more of these!!!
i had an 05 chevy silverado. thing was a beauty. but then i drove it right into the grave. i miss that truck
It gets worst for the GMC. It requires DEF, which isn't too big of a deal, but it's still an added cost and a chore that Andre never sees with his Chevy. There's also the DPF, which regenerates every now and then, lowering overall MPG. Then there's the problem with emissions controls. All that emission crap is complicated, they diminish reliability, they reduce longevity, and it all can easily get very, very expensive to repair when it all starts failing.
The DEF when released often winds up becoming toxic ammonia, but hey, the EPA is happy
This is really interesting . I have a 2001 dodge 2500 V 10 and I would love to see how it stacks up to a new dodge 6.7 or even an older Chevy 8.1 litter .
I have a 2004 Chevy 3500 8.1 4x4. I will never get rid this truck 247,000 miles and it will pull as good as a new one. Update 9/18/2022 now the 3500 8.1 has 262,000 miles still running strong.
The most fun tfl video I've watched so far!
i woild take the 02 way before the 16
+Wade McKenney agreed
Colorado vs s10
Keep up the great work! I loved the comparing with the older trucks helps put things into perspective for us guys who drive older trucks. I drive 2006 Duramax regular cab no frills, so even lighter.
LB7 truck values just went up by 20%
That is not unbelievable. Been watching older HD diesel truck values for years. They hold their own. I blame the post 2007 emissions to blame. Just my observation. Figure inflation rate of our US dollar and some people are asking more of their 2006s than they were new. Feel free to prove me wrong- I'm not the best at math!
That's what diesel emissions equipment gets you... shitty mileage, more maintenance and more expense.
Because the government is crooks
Older one looks better, Looks more fierce (with the raised hood.), Chrome isn't everywhere on it and the front bumper isn't touching the ground.
Sure for capabilities of the new one has the old one beat but as for looks the old one takes the cake.
Copyright Claim it maybe about the looks but it’s about what it can do buddy
Since when was chrome a bad thing? Classic cars are caked with it and that’s one of the things people love about them. Chrome is beautiful.
im so glad you guys decided to do this new segment! one that has to be done is the old Colorado zr2 vs the trail boss!
nicee! I like these old vs new reviews can't wait to see more! good job guys! I like the older trucks front end idk why
Same
The problem with new trucks is all the pollution control bullcrap! It affects fuel economy. And then there's the price. 70k for a truck is rediculous. Probably could get that 02 for under 10k.
I'd say used truck pricing varies greatly based on the area of the country. Here in Virigina, I'd expect to pay $15k+ for that 2002. I'd sell my 5.3 gas truck and buy a truck like Andre's if I could get one for $10k.
+msclecarcrzy I guess it depends on the truck and the area. Some clean Ford 7.3s are still going for over $20,000, which is just insane.
+CoreyHendo I could have bought an 06' with 170,000 duramax 2 yrs ago for 15k. One owner. The truck was loaded too
How much was the 02 new adjusted for inflation?
roughly 35k in 2002. that would be 47k today.
Older truck looks soo much better than the new one.
Indeed they are better by a lot.
Tf it looks poor as shit
When dude said “thank you truck” as he slapped the dashboard. I’ve been there, man. LoL
Bought my 02 in Feb 02. 1500hd 6.0 and still love it. Same color as this one. Great showing for the 02.
Im not a GM fan and the GMT800 interior is made out of stale corn chips, but damn does that old truck look good. New vehicles are just getting extremely ugly.
That's nothin, look at the nissan juke..
This is a really good drive-train test since the gross vehicle weight was the same. When actually towing the same load, the old truck would have done even better.
grate video guys i was waiting when they would have old trucks on the show, i had exact same truck as Andre before trading for 2004.5 and still have it with 276k miles on it .
This is one of the better episodes. Great stuff
OK guys, this is all you need to know. I run 13k miles a month in a 2002 dodge 2500HD. 6 speed, Cummins. I routinely pull a 30 foot Osprey long cabin on a 3 axle trailer, grossing 22k pounds total. I'm little Cummins gets 14.2 miles to the gallon between North Carolina and the Canadian border. I rolled the odometer over three years ago, and I'm now at 360k again. Id love to have a new truck, but I haven't found one that can top this old work horse.
Rolled the odometer over and at 360 again!? You mean you've been past 360 once?
+Ian Turney Yes, in 2004. I deliver boats. I bought this truck brand new, and have average 13k miles a month for 15 years with just a few breaks in the hardest part of winter. The body is about to rust away, but the engine and transmission are only about 40 percent warn according to the oil analysis. I run a low micron oil filter, and 3 stage fuel filters. keep it clean, and a diesel will run forever.
+James Jarmon Wow that's crazy. You usually only see miles like that on a Semi.
+James Jarmon Pretty sure you might be a record holder I know the world record for a car is like 3 mil but still.
+Ian Turney Record for a car is like 6 million. Don't ask me how but some dude has a jaguar he's been tooling around in since the 60s. I paid dearly for this truck, and I've worked it hard. But I do all I can to maintain it. I just cant bring myself to pay 60k dollars for a new ram. The seats aren't even comfortable. It is kinda funny to see me pick up a 150k dollar Mastercraft wake-board boat at the dealer on a truck worth less than it's trailer. But I do it every week.
I hate screen Gauges. Mechanical looks so much nicer.
+LinusScrubTips The main gauges are physical dip shit.
MidShipCivic k? Why does that matter?
MidShipCivic Oil pressure, Temp, Fuel, and Voltage are all on a screen. My 99's are all mechanical. Even my dad's 2012 are mechanical.
LinusScrubTips who gives a shit about your pet peeves, you care about physical moving dials big deal... they will wear out eventually and show inaccuracies can you take less energy & less space to operate like a digital displace?
Nope.
MidShipCivic You're so fucking salty lol.
The man with no truck payment wins every time in my world .
You guys are on to something here, good job
Even though the 2016 is 14 years newer, I bet it will break down sooner.
I love the body style of my 05
Thanks for this test guys! I was one who requested an old vs new. My point in this video is with the cost comparison to both trucks. Alot of cash separates the two trucks. Andre will do the same work while having more money left for whatever it is your towing. Boats cars campers ect.....
Thanks for creating and posting this video. It was a lot of fun.
What happened to the engine tuning Andre was doing to his truck a year or two ago?
GM's tend to get better MPG as they age too...
that's all cars....they should have put 5000-10000 on the new one.
my 90 gmc sierra can do 23 mpg
I average 16mpg in 02 silverado 5.3 with 230,000 miles and running strong for another 100,000 if the frame and body dont rot apart first. Runs like new!
My old 97 still kicking with 250k
Love the comparison videos old vs new! I have a first generation 1999 F350 Super Duty Dually crew cab with the 7.3 PowerStroke, I would love to see a comparison of the first generation Super Duty Diesel compared to the newest generation Super Duty Diesel. The 7.3 has been claimed to be the best PowerStroke engine to be put into a Super Duty. It would be great to see how far they have come over 17 years and 4 different PowerStroke engines.
Great job guys. Fast Lane Truck we can rely on !
Old truck is better. No emissions and luxury bullshit.
Lol u just can't afford a 2016
Lol u just can't afford a 2016
Lol u just can't afford ANY 2016 model and you can't get a loan.
a bad ass You don't know me. No i can't afford a 70k truck but even if I could I wouldn't buy one. A truck is tool to be used and abused.Therefore there's no point in having all these luxury features.
+headcas620 It aint a truck if its luxury im a square body chevy fan and i dont like the luxury stuff in my truck if you cant feel or hear that truck in the cab its not a truck to me
Let's see the 02 do the Ike gauntlet!
That was pretty cool ! You guys should include the Ike gauntlet test too. That will really show if the extra hp , transmission and 15 years of tech are at work.
I like the concept of these videos. Thanks guys.
Before I watch I bet these 2 are actually very close.
A russian owning a Chevy truck. US-Russian relations have come a long way
+Frank Magana Ok, let's see an American buy a modern Russian truck now.
He's also an IT genius who lends his expertise to a US company :)
+Bradley Vaillancourt no theyre not lmao. Ask me how i know(my dad used to have one)
Good Ol' Andre. Nice pickup I had one just like it, once upon a time. Beautiful HD Silverado
I love this video, it shows just what older trucks can do, I'd like to see a video on the generations of Chevy pickups I've witnessed 80s chevys (1500) pull the new chevys that were the 3500 with no problem 80s generation against a 90s generation with a present generation even if you put in a 2000 generation too that would be great to see
you guys do know the towing on that new GMC is somewhere around 17,900 not 13,000lbs
+James Ross It depends on the truck configuration. This is a crew cab 4x4 with a short bed. The rating goes to 13,900 lbs.
+The Fast Lane Truck very correct I was thinking about fifth wheel towing. My mistake. This test was bumper pull.
+James Ross That is what I was thinking as well. I have a 2012 extended cab w 8' bed and it is 17,900 or thereabouts iirc.
+The Fast Lane Truck It doesn't seem right because Mr. Truck floored it in the beginning of the IKE GULTEN while Andre took his Time with out flooring it and Andre used cruise control so he got better gas mileage unlike Mr. Truck he didn't use cruise control
Please do a retry to make it fair
The 2002 was likely tow rated under the older system. The 2016 is under a new rating system. I forget both their names however, but I wonder what the 2002 would rate under the new system.
Old Silverado 👍🏻 any one can like new trucks but for that price it's way too much.
Awesome video guys! Really liked the comparison between the old and the new. I would like too see the same with the other brands. And when are we going to see the 2002 duramax take on the Ike Gauntlet?
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but, I already like Andre's truck better. This fun.
hey tfl truck you guys should do the chevy 6.0L V8's same years apart as these trucks
The dpf regen cycles waste a lot of fuel.
Andre, nice comparison, you should do the Ike gauntlet with your duramax. Most of us have trucks like yours from this era and it would be interesting to compare towing capability and fuel economy of new vs old. I appreciate all your videos, thanks.
I drive a 1987 27ft motorhome as a daily driver and have zero electronic features and have zero issues driving anywhere with it... no back up camera as i have mirrors and a neck,
lol $67k.....
+Benjamin Morgan That's why I'm keeping my 04 2500 6.0L 312,000 miles. Belts, Hoses ,brakes ,tires, and oil changes is way better than a 800 a month truck payment!
$800 is a house payment for me with Taxes and home owners insurance lol.My inner Dave Ramsey is having a heart attack just thinking about it.
Someone is getting the shaft my 2015.5 denali duramax was only $57k.
I love how ken tries to act all country but won't ride in a "old" truck. 2002 is not a old truck by any means and it did everything his new one could do which is the best part.
No kidding. I wouldn't even call early 90s old. What I drive is old.. 1969 Chevy Custom/20.
he'd have shit himself if he was made to ride in my 82 K30...
does it have AC... um no
does it have power windows... no
does it have cruise control... nope
does it have heated seats... *laughing*
so what does it have a solid steel brush guard and lift kit and military 37 inch tires... I can go place that GMC Would shit itself trying to get to.
Austin Harmon ***** I fell y'all. I have a 88 k1500. It might be old but I'd rather have it then that new truck. You could take a truck like mine and build it how you want for what they want for these new trucks. It's ridiculous what they want for these new trucks.
I can't get enough of my 2003 8.1 2500. Tows a 2 horse trailer and gear at 8% grade. I thought the temp gauges were stuck 😂
during this test did the regen cycle turn on? cause that would contribute to the overall mpg of the trucks
great video! amazing old truck still great on mpg and can keep up with new truck.
Emissions!
+Dodge 318 Cummins yeah basically... I'm glad my dodge is just old enough not to have all that junk
+SilverStar Heggisist oh what year is your dodge? What year did they start all the BS 2008 or 2010? I'm lucky my truck is old enough to not be inspected or pass emissions.
Dodge 318 Cummins in my state we don't have emission's testing for diesels. Diesels are emission's exempt.
I believe that stuff with the filters and later DEF started around 2005 or 2006 (but I'd have to look it up to be sure)
My Dodge is a '03 3500. And unloaded gets better gas milage than a Honda CR-V (according to the CR-Vs computers I've driven for inspection, they get around 16mpg with a 2.4L gas engine) and with my 5.9 I get better than 20mpg and I weigh 7000 pounds empty.
+SilverStar Heggisist what state are you in? I also have a Honda CR-V it's not that good on gas. I would like to get a new Cummins but I keep hearing about the emissions crap. I'm looking at a Ram 3500 dually regular cab 6 speed manual for $40,000. I just looked at the duramax Chevy Colorado which is also $40,000.
If i had a nickel for every new gmc/chevy i met on the road with a headlight out .
No shit! I see Chevy tahoes and yukon's with headlights and taillights burnt out all the time...piles of shit I guess?
+rhino250r i agree, i have had good cars that have shitty designed headlight housings. but these new gm cars are a joke. gimme any late 90s car instead.
+chim chee currently i dont, my gmc truck is in the shop on recall electric problems . lol
The REAL reason Andre's truck won. @ 7:42
The GCWR was 300lbs less. LOL Love 'ya Mr. Truck!
it's the bed cover that helped get better mpg for the old truck
😂😂😂😂😂
+_ _ better air flow just like putting the tailgate down improves air flow
+Brody Schmidt that is controversal, testing of the tailgate down and tonneau cover didn't show any difference in mpg
+Tim O depends on the truck. some research actually showed that putting the tailgate down increases the drag with decreases the mpg. things like bed cover, a small spoiler ( not like those on the sport cars) on the tailgate or a spoiler on the top of the crew cab help reduce the drag on trucks. how much reduction you ask? can't say it depends on how aerodynamic the truck is.
Testing with the tailgate up is actually more aerodynamic. And who cares about the box cover making a difference. Remember the pos piece of plastic under the front bumper on the new truck? Plus, the whole design of the new one is meant for aerodynamics.
2002 with only 160,000???🤯
And no rust
Mines is a 2005 with 220,000🤣 no rust tho so and it’s still running strong
2002 ,240k miles
I got my 05 Sierra a year ago with right under 50k
My 1996 only has 126k. But I figured out long ago, with the MPG of big trucks/Suburbans it is cheaper to get a used fuel-efficient car for a daily driver and pay insurance on two vehicles. then to feed a big truck as a daily driver. At least for the miles I drive.
That DEF is killing the newer trucks with fuel economy.
Great video guys. I would like to see the 100 mile loop unloaded like you did with the XD and the Dodge. I know there are only so many hours in a day, but I am curious how they do running down the road.
I love my 05 2500 HD. Just spent $2500 getting rocker panel rust repaired/replaced. Got 250k miles. Towed about 80-120k of those miles(10-14k pound camper). Probably spent 10-15k deleting, replacing front end parts, and an alternator. Original fuel injectors. Deleted at 120k miles. Love it.
Bought it in Jan 2007 for 28000. Blows my mind that you can't get a base model F150 for that price now. I'll be keeping it until the wheels fall off.
no matter what you'd probably never sell me on the new one, reason being, isn't it like $60 grand? because last night i found a '95 in texas for just a little over $300, had no rust at all, though i do wonder why it is so cheap
just shows that al this high tech bullshit doesn't do shit
wtf? the hi tech shit keeps the air clean moron
nuclearthreat545 That's what plants are for. Quit ripping down forests to make room for factories for all that high tech bullshit, and the air will be as clean as ever.
Very entertaining video I enjoy Andres humor about his old truck which were really made to be a working man's truck, I had similar results towing my fifth wheel camper with my 07 6.0powerstroke avg 1-2mpg better vs. my pops 15 6.7powerstroke avg with the same trailer to the same location and same pumps but two weeks between trips though.
I also owned an 02 duramax. My question would be do you know if a regen cycle was present during the tow portion of the '16? That could also significantly impact fuel mileage ratings between the two. Great video. Thoroughly enjoyed.