TommyKay Reacts to Hero of the Soviet Union - Georgy Zhukov (World War Two)
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- čas přidán 9. 08. 2021
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"when i was in military school, same school that Putin. Now he president i sell shitty cars, what happened" that hits hard man.
just goes to show your education is helpful, but isn't the end all be all. Sometimes you can have the most elite education, and turn out mediocre, and other times you can get a mediocre education, and come out elite.
@@jackchurchill3777 yeah motivation is a big factor, at 20 I could be studying to be a teacher instead I work in a refinery, pays well, but long hours.
@@mojowwwav4357 sounds fun,
@@fakedoorsfordinner1677 meh, a few months into placement for the course and I realised I despised children.
@@mojowwwav4357 as long as you feel fulfilled. At the end of the day the universe gives zero fucks about you, you're the only person who gets to decide your worth.
Meanwhile, Indy Neidell:
"Where's the mega campaign Dommy"
I'd love that.
Ligma doctor
@@greatbritain819 what's a doctor
zhukov: "I was politically naive"
also zhukov: "War is good for the rich"
well thats why he said that he WAS naive.
@@hi-tech_soldier2558 he literraly said "i was naive BUT i knew war was only good for the rich" he did meant it, and he's not entirely wrong neither.
I'm not sure what he said. As Lenin said, you don't need to believe all the quotes on the Internet.
@@clementlefevre5384 I just looked at what Sohrab wrote
well, we can talk about the second phrase
That car dealership story had me dead
Indy Neidell, more like MASTER OF WORLD WARS HISTORY!
I think he would prefer the tile in lower case letters
@Wulf I don't think he was speakinlt literally.
Calm down guys, pheww
Tommy roasting dankus is the funniest part of the video
12:00 Japan realised that invading the USSR would prove way too troublesome, and the USSR had no intention of escalating the war when it already had the threat of Germany and struggled with internal matters.
Most wars don't end up turning into total wars. World war 2 was quite unusual in that countries fought to the bitter end.
''how does this guy have only 600k subs?''
closes tab without liking nor subbing
10:22 My granduncle barely survived the great purge in Red Army. In 1936 he was going become a general, but his competitor found out and told the party that my granduncle had marrigage ceremony in church with when he returned to his village after WW1 and Civil war. His wife was from middle-class peasant family, and he was from poor peasant family. His wife mother didn't like him, but he was a member of Bolshevik party back then and she hoped that this marriage might protect their middle-class peasant family from possible future repressions. She agreed for their marriage but under one condition - they will have ceremony in church. Granduncle was a communist and atheist by that time, but he agreed. That saved his life eventually. In 1936, when his superiors knew that he had church ceremony, they kicked him from the party and deranked him. His competitor, got general rank. A year past, and Great Purge begins - a lot of guys, including his competitor, who were above him in rank got either purged or arrested or under pressure. Several more years, Great Patriotic War starts - Soviet army don't have enough generals, so they immediately promote granduncle and send him to command a division on a frontline.
Whobwas your granduncle?
Russia and Japan were both fighting on the fringes of their empire during the Mongolian conflicts. The Russians had to cross Siberia to get to the front and the Japanese had to cross Manchuria, a bandit ridden country even the dictator installed there couldn't fully grasp the region. Both countries had no capacity for war on the front.
One more reason why Khalkin Gol did not escalate fully into war was that the Mongolian P.R. was recognized only by the USSR and Tuva. According to most other states (formally), the fighting was on the territory of China, with Mongolia being recognized mostly in the period 1945-1950.
A similiar situation existed in the Japanese zone of influence, with Manchuria going unrecognized internationally. For most if not all observers, it was clear that the Soviets and the Japanese were fighting a conflict, but that formal distance allowed for diplomatic movement - both towards escalation and de-escalation.
Think of the "Limited Contignent of Soviet Forces in [the D.R.] Afghanistan" and the Mujahideen as another example of this, albeit 40 yeats later. For a decade, the two sides would play a cat-and-mouse game, often with incursions from one side into the territory of the other, in territory formally not theirs (Soviets and Pakistan/US respectively), but for the most part there were zones wherein the forces of both sides could operate near-freely (Kabul/Bagram and the USSR for regime forces, Pansjir, the Pakistani border area and Pakistan for insurgent forces).
TL;DR proxy wars have always been proxy wars and remain a potent tool in international relations
Funny fact, the inexperience of the red army officers during early barbarossa, was actually caused by the rapid expansion of the red army over doubling in size within a very few years up to 1941, leading to unskilled and poorly trained officers being promoted very rapidly since there was a great demand. Ofcouse the purge did not help, but it was no way the main reason of the poor performance of officers in the Soviet Army. After opening of the Soviets archives it was also revealed that most of the officers purged, was reinstated shortly after or during the war. On top of that, many of the top Officers pre-ww2, had no experience in modern warfare, and was in favour of the old military doctrines, and not modern mobile warfare. They had their experience fighting the Russian civil war, and many of them got their position because of loyalty to the revolution rather than military experience. Therefore some historians argue that the purge in some instances had a positive impact, since it replaced officers less capable of fighting a modern war, with new officers more familiar with modern and tank warfare like Georgy Zhukov.
- Therefore the debuff of the purges in Hoi4 is to much!
Pretty sure the purge replaced officers not because skill level but loyalty level, so zhukov gettin in, was more like stalin being lucky that the loyal generals where skilled
The reason the Red Army command under Stalin was so old fashioned is because Stalin's friends were part of the "cavalry clique" who were fiercely defensive or cavalry and old fashioned harsh discipline. Zhukov became a war hero because he was the only competent forward thinking general still alive by the start of WW2. This is such a weird defense of the awful purges which led to significant deaths and ones still alive were only reinstated because Stalin was desperate.
@@dannya1854 You are totally right and I did not mean to defend the morality of the purges at all, the purges were an awfull political act :D
History classes are really not all about getting the facts into your brain. A lot has to do with methodology.
Oh so that's why my history class was about ancient China, ancient shonghai and that apartheid being the only history my country has.
@@gidi3250 Are you from South Africa?
@@darkmemes953 yes
And brainwashing you with just one narative
@@gidi3250 Do you guys learn about Africa before colonization, like Ancient Egypt, African empires, such as Ghana and Mali, or South African tribes and people?
Words cannot do justice to how amazing Indy and the rest of the team's work on WW1 and then WW2 is... its truly the best series on youtube, i would love to see him watch more of them, and Sabton history where they get together with Sabaton to discuss the history behind the songs they write, its a match made in heaven and i think tommy would love them and they'd be perfect for "react time"
who is also still waiting for tommy to react to something about frederick the great of prussia (the chadest German of all time)
The chadest German of all time is shared between Otto von Bismarck and Frederick the Great, didn't you know?
@@terriblejokefactory8831 french are better "Napoleon" charlemagne
Freddie was gay so Bismarck takes the dub
@@terriblejokefactory8831 true
@@o-matt3570 but maybe that means netflix is gonna make a series about him so that's great
I love his stories man.
PLEASE GET TOMMY TO WATCH MORE OF THESE, ESPECIALLY TIME GHOST HISTORY AND THE GREAT WAR
Tommy: okay im gonna react to this video.
Also Tommy: *«so i bought this car from a russian bear»*
Mid 20s zhukov looks like white obama
Misha (short from Mikhail) is also a diminutive for bear. So I think it's quite a fitting name.
the main reason for the USSR and Japan not going to war after Khalkin Gol was mainly because the IJA's plans on showing the emperor and the cabinet that the USSR was weak and they can take the resources of Siberia, while the IJN advocated in taking Indonesia, the Philippines and its surrounding islands.
The North ambitions failed at Khalkin and convinced the emperor that was with the USSR was unadvisable and dangerous since then they would be fighting a nascent but powerful foe that could given time and the opportunity destroy Japans Asian ambitions and if possible overthrow the emperor.
The politicking and diplomatic overtures saved Japan from getting declared on and the fear that they felt towards the Soviets was so great that (I don't if its 100% true but indicates their hesitation) did not engage American merchant shipping going too Vladivostok
Pretty sure japan feared the soviets the most, one of the reason of their capitulation where the soviets advance in manchuria, they didnt wanted to become communists
This channel is amazing I love it
Man, i find it amazing they had to cut out some of Zhukov's medals because the actor who played him in death of Stalin couldn't fit all of them on his chest.
How are you Markoni?
Bruh i learnt of zukhov from death of stalin movie
Tommy should watch their ww2 real time week by week series and upload one episode a week
and be lost after the 3rd video becuse he doesnt pay attention half the time.
Tommy should watch about Khalid Ibn Al Walid, he’ll find it interesting thats for sure
I once bought a car from a Russian, it broke down on the way home. No Vodka either
Indi is a legend
tommy key history channel !! more seriously WW2 channel is completely insane and wonder too why it havent more subs
Indy is pretty much the history teacher to everyone at this point
Someone told Misha and he responded on google reviews lol
So why is this not called the "Roast of Dankus" instead?
Indy Neidell is the best
i love listening to him, nomatter the topic
Zhukov the chad
Japan didnt escalated the war cause supplies in siberia are sht and supply depot cost 20,000
My grandpa and granduncle, both soviet ww2 veterans, referred to Zukov only as a "butcher". He didn't care much about his soldiers life.
tommy needs to watch histroy matters
Zhukov became too based, even the Tommy reacts
I dont like praise myself
Do you know that Tommy Kay actually reacted to this guy's channel
3:55
Caveman running car dealership doesn't understand why sons turned out the way he did. Really weird.
That Russian bear guy really is an interesting person.
yo i feel bad for the russian,can we all get a F for misa?
Tommy simping for Zhukov
*with no prior context whatsoever* "Dankus how 'bout you organize a fucking HOI4 game once in a while and stop being such a zoomer weirdo all the time" i fucking died
Ay yo I was in a VC with you today XD
IM GONNA BUY MY FIRST CAR THERE
Zhukov was a butcher to hes own soldiers, he didnt gave shit about hes army, was throwing them to death.
You just explained every general lmao. Being an officer is about taking risks, and the guilt will stay if its a failed gambit
@@naoyanaraharjo4693 taking risk doesn't mean sending 50 000 ill equipped people attacking Dnieper River to slaughter. And storm cities just for celebration of Stalins birthday or day of revolution, killing multiple people on spot by he's hand (multiple people at war confirmed it after USSR collapse). Please if you have 0 idea about person you trying to defend, don't bother comment here.
@@yuriyseliuk4120 can you tell me the exact confrontation where the Soviets tried to do an attack on the dnieper? Together with the whole celebrating Stalin's birthday thing
Dissenter executioner are NKVD, not army officers
If you can only reply with not true criticism. Rather answers made out of myths, you better reconsider it
@@yuriyseliuk4120 Greetings from Russia, you have a rich imagination. Oh already this alternate history
He just forgot about Arthur Wellsely the Duke of Wellington in the Napolenic wars
Нечего не понял, но очень интересно.
Did he watch part 2??
There is no part 2
banana
Indie Nidel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JFC
his attention span is fucking killing me
Uh, finally I don't see
Napoléon I Bonaparte corny ass comment
I'm from Mongolia. Japanese actually scared of USSR and they whitepeaced. From the "Battle" emperor Hirohito changed his interest of Kwantung Army to IJN.
I just want to see Tommy's reaction to German history. I want to see a proud German. Let's just ignore that third Reich phase.
Aside from their weird cover for socialism at times Indy and crew do offer nice bite sized history
He did one on WW1 too, maybe Dommy would want a look at some of the specials specifically the WW2 figures in it
weird cover for socialism?
@@Tundra1919 He basically did a response video to TIK’s video on Hitler being a socialist for no reason
Back when he did the WW1 series his video on Mussolini particularly stuck out when he again for no reason interjects very quickly that fascism was anything but socialism
Even if you disagree with that which tbh you shouldn’t is it not weird that unprovoked he feels the need to? Well it’s not weird it’s obvious what it is but come on
@@1CE. Wut, how is that "obvious cover for socialism"?
@@1CE. first of all, that’s not a “weird cover for socialism” and second of all everything Indy said is completely true. Fascism, especially Italian fascism and Nazism is not socialist. You can argue that some fascist movements have been socialist, but the fascist or fascist-aligned nations in World War 2 were not socialist in the slightest.
@@1CE. Pretty sure he mentions that because there are a fair amount of people who claim that nazism and fascism are actually another form of socialism "the Nazis were National Socialists" crowd, as if to claim that tyranny can only come from the left or that there weren't significant ideological differences between fascist and communist regimes
5:23 - by the September of 1917 Russian Republic had been stabilized. There were two main problems. Firstly, the lack of units for Russian police. Secondly, the most massive invasion of terrorists in humankind history ever from Scandinavia, Austria-Hungary, and Germany.
Terrorists?? What?
Imagine if Zhukov had known what the Bolsheviks would do to the Russian people
Completely re-building country from the stretch and repelling the biggest invasion in the world? Or what are you talking about
@@user-me5oq3kl4h ontop of Ukrainian corpses
@@naoyanaraharjo4693 very interesting, considering population of Ukrainian SSR only increased
@@user-me5oq3kl4h we killed 1 million suspected communists in '65. Yet population only increased, curious
@@naoyanaraharjo4693 but people claim evil Stalin personally ate half of the Ukraine.
Makes one wonder why 2nd biggest nationality in red army, and second number of most awarded soldiers came from soviet republic of Ukraine
warhammer trash lol.
omg do you have 0.00001 seconds of attention span? freaking watch and listen to the video if you gonna react and stop pausing and respond to chat.
@@realpolitick1468 meanwhile thats about all thats in these comments, theirs isnt going to tip the scale at all lol. @glamscum is merely making a valid rational point