The Pietta 1851 Navy Pepperbox .36 cal. blackpowder revolver
Vložit
- čas přidán 16. 07. 2021
- Testing out the Pietta 1851 Navy Pepperbox .36 cal. revolver.
This has to be one of the weirdest products in the Pietta line.
I tried it with both round ball and shot loads.
Not sure if this brings anything to the table over a conventional revolver, other than being a little bit shorter overall than a typical snub nose.
If you enjoyed this and would like to support me in getting new material to video, you can buy me a pizza here: ko-fi.com/johnzx6r - Sport
This video was so relaxing. No obnoxious music, no overly talkative script. It’s perfect really.
Thank you so much! Glad you liked it!
How many grains does it take I use 10 grains but I think it’s under powered
you can load it with 20 grains of BP no problem just make sure you use the right stuff for pistols@@dougneal9970
Love how the smoke from the previous shot “rolls” out of the previous cylinder
Beat me to it
The pepperbox was designed for card table distances. Like derringers it makes no sense when individuals try to make target pistols out of them and then wonder why they cant hit anything. Trigger pull is next.
for longer distances, you'd get a larger more powerful colt, Smith and Wessen, or remington revolver
this was THE pistol of the 49' gold rush, along with revolving rifles
@@-jank-willson Sorry Pietta wasn't around then. Try again
@@spiritualawakenings6251 um, pepperboxes were around back then. Try again.
@@-jank-willson I'm pretty sure he is saying that this is a fictitious model.
Mark Twain wrote of the notable inaccuracy of the Pepperbox, stating that the "safest place to be in in front of it"!
With the limited shooting I have done with it so far, I would say old Samuel Clemens was spot on!
😂😂😂@@johnzx6r
When loading shot (shotgun, pistol, revolver doesn't matter), you have to give it a solid base. Your felt wad isn't going to support the shot, and is going to allow powder gases into the column which increases an already naturally large pattern.
Powder, then a hard stiff, well compacted card (called a nitro card) that's about 1/8th in thick or a touch more, then the shot, then an over shot card. The felt wads will probably work OK for keeping the shot in place, and if you want to cushion the shot, a felt wad on top of the nitro card would be OK.
A work-around for the nitro card is a wax milk carton. Punch out a bunch of circles the correct size, and instead of the nitro card, you can use about 4 or 5 of the milk carton "wads" and get pretty good results.
One other factor in a revolver is to avoid compacting the shot column. Too much loading lever pressure will deform the shot and add to the spread. The place to use pressure is when seating the nitro card. Try again with a good over powder card set-up, and I think you'll see better results.
Thank you! Sounds like excellent advice. I hope to get this thing out again soon and I'll be sure to try your suggestions.
@@johnzx6r- 👍
This is one gun that I’d like to see brass framed since you don’t have to worry about cylinder gap.
👍
I laughed uncontrollably when you missed the snake at 10 feet
I laughed too - and then I cried....
You sure he didn't say ten yards 💣
@@powerplay4real174 no he said 10 feet
@@MrEvilTag he accidentally said 10 yards at the end , and yes when he first shot at the snake he said 10 feet.
Also he said 7 yards at the body target in the beginning 🎯.
I was watching in may phone and didn't see the 10 feet correction in the left corner.
Hope you not upset 😊🎯😊
It's an indoor gun, AKA, an oshit gun.
Yeah, the original pepper box guns were intended for across the card table accuracy only, due to the absence of the possibility of sights.
The smoothbore pepperbox was originally intended for very close range personal defense. When I mean, close range, we're talking about almost point blank range. The close range limitation is largely due to the smoothbore barrels. The inventor of the pepperbox, decided rifling was not necessary for close range defense. More probably, he was looking to minimize costs on the pepperbox. Rifling all six chambers would have significantly increased the price of the pepperbox, making it less economically attractive.
Yeah rifling would be useless on something like this. I know it is primarily a very short range item, but I'd still like to get good enough with it to at least hit a torso sized target out to 7- 10 yards or so.
@@johnzx6r I understand your frustration, but I think OP is correct, it's kinda like the old push away with your left, shoot with your right. Bad breath close. When I carried a .22 Taurus PT22, I practiced just that. It's not made for a gunfight, just saving your ass in a bad situation. Great vid tho, thanks. Edit to say I could ring the 25 yard 12 inch gong all day long with my DAO PT22, so hey, progress. 😃 Would love to get the Beretta version that was/is SA only, you can carry them cocked and locked like a 1911 😁
@@thomasbeirne8213 I realize this thing is more of a novelty than anything else, and I certainly have other things I would grab for self-defense before I would use this, but I still like the idea of being able to hit something a bit farther away if I had to. I suppose if I used it more often I'd probably get better results (I haven't even shot the thing since I made this video - almost two years ago, now!).
I've always liked those little Taurus .22's, but never got around to getting one. Not a fan of how the newer ones look, though. I much prefer the older models with the wood grips.
John has a very soothing voice to listen to when he is explaining or describing something. His voice would be a good choice for audio instruction recordings. Another well-liked CZcamsr is Steve, of, SteveMRE1989. Steve specializes in displaying and sampling military field rations (MREs) from all over the world. Viewers keep commenting on his soothing, pleasing voice. I recommend another CZcams poster who had a video explaining how to use a traditional flint and steel to light a fire. I complimented him on his authoritative, clear, concise voice. Now he should be hired as a voice instruction recorder.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm also a big fan of SteveMRE1989 videos. "Let's get this out onto a tray - nice!"
3 or 4 balls in each chamber would have a lot of point blank stopping power. I think the modern steel construction could handle the pressure.
Eh, I'd just do 2 at most for safety...
Does pieta make an actually Allen pepperbox replica?
@@-jank-willson If it's a small powder charge it should be OK and like I said the steel today is much stronger. A blast of multiple lead balls at low velocity packs a considerable but hopefully non-lethal punch.
@@-jank-willson I have no idea. It would be great if someone made one in stainless.
I own three and have had as many as five balls about 20 grains of powder, bad to the bone.
That hidden smile on your face tells it all.. You are a happy man playing with his toys, and trying to hide that smile, but man I see it straight through your face. You love this gun.
😁
These are most practical to be used for point-blank defense.
My dad would say that’s the gun you stick in the other guy’s ear or bellybutton
Another great video John I always enjoy your stuff.
Thank you so much!
After seeing this video it gives me a new idea for this platform. 2 custom fitted barrels one rifled, the other smooth bore with a choke. Now that combination would be interesting as a woods revolver.
Sounds like a very interesting concept!
*cylinders you mean
@@-jank-willson nope I've re read it a couple of times, and believe I wrote it as I meant it. The cylinder as it is and custom made barrels to fit the extended overall length of the existing cylinder. The added length affords room for plenty of shot. When it comes the rifled barrel it's just added capacity.
@@-jank-willson nope I've re read it a couple of times, and believe I wrote it as I meant it. The cylinder as it is and custom made barrels to fit the extended overall length of the existing cylinder. The added length affords room for plenty of shot. When it comes the rifled barrel it's just added capacity.
@@StevenMMan Then that's, like, just a normal C&P revolver dude. Or I'm misinterpreting what you said. Happened before.
Awesome visuals! Glad I found your channel
Thank you for watching! I'm glad you like the channel!
That is an interesting concept. I would like to try one on the range.
Definitely want one thanks for the review, cheers from France
Thank you!
This is such a hilarious concept I love it.
It is a bit entertaining.
I bought it just because I've always wanted a pepperbox, and the price was right. It's more of a conversation piece/shits amd giggles at the range gun for me. With the weight of it I figured it couldn't kick much, and it looks like it doesn't. You could definitely hear the difference between the 3 pellet shots and the 3 ball shots.
This thing doesn't have much recoil at all. I didn't really hear a difference in the sound of the shots when I was shooting it, but it certainly is noticeable on the video. I'm not sure which was which, but I think the louder shot was from the ball, due to a tighter fit in the chamber which probably results in a higher pressure.
With the elongated barrel, 20 grains of powder, wad and two .36 rounds, making it a 12 shot revolver.
I keep meaning to go out and try a load like that, just never seem to have the time!
Despite this video being dated of 2+yrs, it's very informative, I'm revisiting BP shooting and the Pepperbox was my first choice to see if I was up to it after a pause of 30yrs. I am an experienced armorer/gunsmith, Palma/Interservice Matches competitor, with service of 2 wars, ANG duty and a deputy stint. These were secondary to my role as a private, small business proprietor of the automotive trade of 40yrs, I was always grateful for success and spread the wealth. Now, recently medically forced into retirement, I miss not having a truly productive pursuit, hobby/career, so here I am. The internet, though I loath CZcams's toxic & politically motivated nonsense, is a wonderful resource for it's good people doing what you do. I appreciate your minimalist approach and have subscribed. I have acquired several unique BP firearms of interest, since and will enjoy them, thanks for your work, may post something of my own, we'll see, God bless...
Welcome back to the wonderful world that is everything blackpowder! Glad to have you here!
Yes, CZcams sucks and they hate you, but for now they still grudgingly allow us to put up videos of our favorite hobby, so if you do get a chance to make your own video, please post it up! Always like watching anything BP related!
Absolutely love it! Nice little gun
Thank you!
It's such a weird little pistol and I absolutely need it
So I was told at Cabelas when I asked about this, they originally used this gin and called it a “belly gun” and the goal of this pistol since it was so much shorter, was if you were in a very close combat situation you would jam this revolver in the ribs or belly of the attacker and dump all your rounds into him/her. Now it’s main use is comic relief I’d argue. Still a cool funky pistol
Basically a six shot derringer. One of the original “get off me” guns.
Hadn't really thought of it that way, but you are right - it is pretty much a derringer with a few more shots!
I thought about getting one awhile ago, after watching this, my choice of no was correct. 😆
Yeah, I'm not sure it is going to stay in the stable - unless I can find a shot load that works well in it I think it might go on the chopping block.
These where not made for long range, just something to whip out of ur pocket in a close range conflict
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Thank you - glad you liked it!
Nice to see a video about someone trying this out.
Thank you!
@@johnzx6r you are welcome
I want one. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching!
The bird shot is pretty deadly for a human, for someone that can't own smokeless guns it's a ideal back up gun and close action
Looks like a lot fun.
It is, I just need to work on some loads a little more.
My man is doing a review under active fire
This is one c & b that you actually want a chainfire and pray all go off at once.
Ha! Now that could do some damage!
Fascinating study of a weird revolver, thanks for that! Just need a bigger snake, maybe...
Ha!, Yeah, probably would have gotten more hits against a larger reptile. I'll have t o try that next time.
I bought one. I use 25 grains same ball. I load while on gun with paper cartridge and ball starter or a flat piece of wood works great to get ball started with cylinder on and using paper cartridge. Don't gotta worry about spilling powder and can hold gun down to start ball. I got 2 rough grouse with mine using #6 lead shot measured same as powder with wad before and after the shot. I was worried about shot falling out.
Glad you are getting good results with yours. I still need to experiment some with mine to get this to work the way I would like it to.
I have been tossing around the idea of getting one of these. I finally bit the bullet and got one from MIdway (Birthday discount applied). Now I'm waiting on nice weather to shoot it for the first time. Thanks for the video.
Nice! I look forward to your video on it 😉!
Cool Gun👀
That'd be one TICKED-OFF SNAKE.
a pattent was obtained by the Belgians for a 6 shot "revolver" cal. 9,6 called "Poirvière Mariette" (Peperbox Mariette) in 1837 it had an internal hammer and worked very well, lots of them were manufactured by the Belgians and French. There were also Cooper, Turner and Cogswell, all producing nice weapons before Ethan Allen produced his. I like this version if it is a little big and basic (an internal hammer would have been nice)
Something that annoys me a bit about Pietta - they have the technology and the capability to produce some really nice reproductions (1851 Navy, 1860 Army), but also churn out a number of things that are no where near reproductions of anything (this, for example). I know they are just trying to make a buck and and put out things they think will sell, but how hard can it be to make something at least 95-98% authentic? I would love to have a quality reproduction of, say, an Allen pepperbox. Instead, we get this.
@@johnzx6r I thought the same thing... Pepperbox were self defense weapons, the rich had 'em around London to protect from bandits when travelling. The idea is of a multi shot pocket weapon hence the hidden hammers... This one we can carrie in an empted Bible but is too big for a coat pocket and the hammer can hang. Still is the only replica that I know of.
Good piece of Kit 🙂💰🙂
Got one (pre-COVID, so MUCH cheaper than they're available for now...) and looking forward to rifling the barrels. If I want to blast buckshot from my handgun, I'll get a LeMat...
I'd really like to try a LeMat, they are just too ridiculously expensive for me.
What part of Derringer do you not understand this gun is designed to be shot at a Target less than 7 ft and then it might be easier just to throw the gun at the target
@@johnzx6r Yes. Moreso now, of course, since Italy was hit hardest & earliest by COVID of the EU. I got mine thru Cabela's, but now Bass Pro's management has driven them into the ground and they're not shipping BP guns any longer [nearest Cab's to me is 500 miles away in Phoenix. The rank amateurs running the misnamed Bass "Pro" barely admit to BP's existence at all in their stores & discourage their sales.] Anyway, I'd wanted one for dog's years so when Cab's had [what I have subsequently realized was their *last*] Father's Day sale on BP toys, I had accumulated a bunch of Cab's gift cards at ~ 10% discount via a credit card points scheme and got one. Sure glad now that I did! Still haven't fired it tho'; no time at the range for me in the foreseeable future. [sigh]
@@nunyabidniz2868 I hear you - Cabela's kind of sucks now since Bass Pro bought them. Used to be able to get pretty good deals on stuff from them in the past - not any more.
Hopefully you'll be able to get that pepperbox out to the range at some point, soon.
Wekk done video and educatoinal. Great to hear the powder loading and whether a ball or shot. Guess a short little scatter cutn???
Nice mellow vibe. Suscribed
Thank you!
I'm surprised they didn't put small brass beads at the end of chambers. Since they weren't going for anything historical... Doubt it would enhance accuracy, but it might give the shooter a false hope of hitting anything at 7 yards... LOL!
Would be nice if there was something to reference off of, instead of just pointing and hoping for the best.
Don't worry you got Mr. snake, After you hit him in the tail with that 1 pellet he moved were the 3 shots were
I was thinking about getting one of these to sort of replicate a judge, using 2 or 3 00 buck. Id also imagine using an over shot card rather than a second lubed wad would help quite a lot with your birdshot paterning. Just an old cereal box cut into .375 circles ought to work.
I was thinking the same thing about just using a card instead of a wad. Next time I take this out I'll give that a go.
@@johnzx6r ya. Hope the algorithm shows me your next go at it.
@@curtharm3990 Me, too, but it might be a while - too many projects ahead of this one at the moment.
I appreciate your interest to collect all the bp guns and test them. It saves the rest of us money. Based on results, you're better off throwing the pistol at the target than hoping to get a decent shot from the pepperbox. Also, I thought a true pepper box was supposed to fire all cylinders simultaneously?...
Thank you. It's kind of my plan to do a video on as many BP revolvers as I can, with a bit of an emphasis on some of the more unusual stuff. At close range the Pepperbox could be effective, but I think it might take a bit of practice to get the feeling for the "pointability" of it to make reliable hits.
The Allen Pepperbox mentioned in the video works like a double -action revolver - each pull of the trigger indexes a barrel and fires one at a time. I don't know much about the other styles that have been offered over the years, so it is possible some were made to fire all barrels at once.
i always wanted dan wesson to bring out these 2' historical pieces = 1' the pepper box , 2' the 9'round cylinder - plus the 1'shotgun Confederate la'mat pistol
It would be nice to see someone make a good quality reproduction of a real pepperbox style pistol. Pietta made the LeMat for a while, but from what I understand they had a few issues.
A hard card is vital to seal the gas from the shot. Like a good shot wad in a shotgun.
Yeah, I'm going to go that route next time and see how it goes.
Load a duplex load = two round balls per chamber or mini buck and ball = one ball and shot on top.
I may try that next time.
I was happy to subscribe, I own 3 of these, Try loading 3 balls in each Cylinder with 30 grains of black powder
When I get a chance, I'm going to revisit this thing and try out a few different kinds of loads to see what it will do.
For the shot charges, you need some type of gas check. Those felt wads won't cut it. You need either under shot cards which are slightly oversized and about 1/8" thick fiber board or three or four stacked shotcards over the over powder wads,the shot, then one or two over shot cards or any kimd of wadding that will keep it from spilling out (wool fiber works well) or instead of the under shot cards you can use two or three slighlty oversized ( acouple thousandths at most) disks punched from an aluminum can then one or two paper shot cards, the shot and either shot cards or some type of wadding to hold it in. You will get better results when using shot.
Just a suggestion try the shot load in a .36-ish tube cover it in melted beeswax then after it cools and hardens load as before. 15 grains, top and bottom patch... Just curious about if the shot is held together a bit firmer so it doesn't spread so quickly.
Sound like an interesting idea. I might just try that.
A modern day version of this for catridges would be awesome. Rifled cylinder end and a quick release for cylinder swap out. Which caliber- 32 or 38?
They exist. COP .357, for example.
Great video. Now what holds in the lubricated wad you put in ABOVE the number 7 shot? Is it waxed? Thanks brother.
The wad isn't waxed, but more of an oil type lubricant. What holds it in is really nothing more than a friction fit - the diameter of the wad is just a bit larger than the diameter of the chamber, and it is a tight enough fit that, even under recoil, nothing in the chamber will move.
I think the pulp fiction guy had this gun when he shot Jackson and travolta
I think they should make it in a .44. It would give you more options for loading shot.
I wouldn't mind seeing this in a .44. I don't see why it couldn't be done. Maybe if enough of us bug Pietta about it, they might make some?
I wouldn't mind seeing this in a .44. I don't see why it couldn't be done. Maybe if enough of us bug Pietta about it, they might make some?
Did you ever try to chronograph any of these? I want to see difference in barrel length.
Not yet, though it is on the agenda.
Interesting little piece. Great video. Obviously the pepper box is meant to be a belly gun though.
Yeah, certainly only a close range proposition with this thing!
I did about the same experiment with 7.5 birdshot and got the same crappy results. Now, I just use my pepperbox as a noisemaker on the 4th of July.
I'm not ready to give up on it, yet! I'd still like to try a few other things to see if I can get it to work the way I would like it to!
I feel like it would be more accurate with a longer cylinder barrel
More a pistol for dealing with the Dead Rabbits on a dark Manhattan alley at bad breath distance than any range. But definitely the only black powder revolver where a chain fire might be fun.
Certainly a close range revolver primarily. I'm still planning to experiment with it some more with different loads and sizes of shot. I'm sure a face full of, say, #2 shot would dissuade any potential hoodlum from carrying out any nefarious deed.
Pepperboxes turn chain fires from a problem into a feature
Hovey Smith had a couple of videos on this. He had relatively good results. Might want to check his videos.
I haven't seen those. I'll check them out - thanks!
Does anyone know where to get that 410 ga conversation cylinder?
i enjoy watching you shoot. no flinch, your eyes remain open!!!
now about the trigger press i notice you tend to shoot right, so, just the fingers pad please that knuckle joint may be pulling you right. next with this pepperbox close the range, perhaps 7 yards, try a bit less powder for a snake and a nitro card over the shot. lets see some number 5 or 4 shot and 3cc. with so much cylinder space try a couple cc heavy shot under the ball and a card on top the shot, even if you miss you might blind your worthy opponent,
keep up the videos.
Maybe you can make a paper tube by rolling around a pencil, hanging just enough past the eraser to go over halfway and fold it’ll keep its shape, use as a sabot or shot cup (think grape shot for cannons) might tighten up the pattern
There are a few things I want to try to see if I can get this to pattern better. This idea might work - I'll see what happens!
i wonder if you could still use the back half with an 1851 barrel and cylinder and have both a pepper box and a pistol. might have to make a grub screw to be able to use the 51' 7 in barrel.
No need for any kind of grub screw. The frame is exactly like any other 1851 frame made by Pietta. The only difference is a hole drilled and taped at the end of the arbor for the pepperbox cylinder screw. The arbor still has the slot for the barrel wedge, and a standard 1851 barrel and cylinder fit onto this frame perfectly. I haven't shot it with a standard cylinder and barrel, but I did test fit it together, and it fit and functioned fine.
@@johnzx6r wow, that’s awesome. 2 in 1, only reason I thought grub screw was to enforce that area that was drilled and tapped, but I think it’s unnecessary due to modern metallurgy being so good and most the energy being contained in the cylinder.
@@smartmeis Yeah, I don't think a screw would be necessary. The arbor is plenty strong enough and I doubt anything would get damaged when using standard .36 blackpowder loads.
If you get a shotgun and saw off the barrel, you end up with a shotgun that can't hit a target unless you are nearly at point blank range because the shot spreads out too quickly. Here you have an even shorter barrel so there is no way that the shot will stay even close to being grouped. Adding more shot to the short barrel only means there will be more chaos between the shot which will cause a wider spread. Considering that this has a smooth bore, if you want accuracy, you might try a finned projectile and uses a sabot to hold it within the chamber. Then when fired, the sabot will releases the finned stabilized projectile which should then fly straight. Then again, good luck finding such a projectile in that caliber unless you can make it.
You're probably right. I'm probably not going to get the results I want out of this, but there are still a few things I'd like to try to maybe improve it a little bit, at least. We'll see if they actually work, or if it is just an exercise if futility.
Why does no one load a hard card then felt, then thin card like a smooth bore shotgun with black powder?
In hindsight, this is probably the route I should have gone, and would have likely gotten better results. I do plan on taking this out and trying it again loading it the way you suggested.
Hi.which Diameter ist the cylinder screw?
That will never blow up!
it needs a front sight . And not hard to figure how to build one . You just need a piece of flat stock the width of the area where barrel pins are located on a typical 1851 . Drill a couple holes for the pins , then a 90 degree bend , another 90 degree at the ront of cylinder (longer bolt ) . Drill hole for bolt , drill hole for bullet to pass through file sight . cut off excess material
How effective is it as a man stopper ?
Establishing the the “historical standard pepper box” is kind of as much trouble as establishing a standard for long rifles. In the era they were made hand made one of a kind guns were still pretty much the standard. The civil war actually took things back a step. The Texas Navy Walker pistols were supposed to come with an extra cylinder. 🤔 This is odd because during the civil war there doesn’t seem to be ANY equipment, pouches or what not for dealing with the cylinders separately from the gun. 🙄 Although on the other hand it makes perfect sense, they needed all the complete guns they could get.
Leave the snake alone!😂
If I am 10 ft away the snake posses little threat. 3 feet does it spread some not too much?
Haven't tried it yet closer than 10 feet. There's some thing I want to try to maybe get this to shoot a shot load a bit better. I'll work on it at some point in the coming months.
Bird head grip on the pieta would be great
I agree!
Imagine being a burglar in someone's house and the last thing you hear is HAVE AT THEE!
Just the thing for deer muzzle loader session. That sounds like a joke. But here in Kentucky your not allowed to finish off a white tail in muzzle loader with a modern gun.
6:18/ that’s why you attach a knife to it, so you can give it buck and ball and the bayonet
A cutlass in your offhand will help correct the windage issue.
I should buy a cutlass....
The prepared shot shells for .38 Special use #9 shot.
I am curious whether Pierra makes a .44 pepper box
No, only a .36
Where did you get the press you are using? If you made it can you do a video on it thanks.
I got the pres from Powder, Inc. They offer a couple styles of presses. It's a pretty high quality piece of equipment.
So today I was re re reading and reviewing this video in response to another person's comment to my comment. Now my original thought still holds water, however it lead me to a possible solution for the current setup for shot. Now not to make this to complicated I have to let you in on yet another back ground of mine. At one point of my I worked as a wood molder setup man making lin footage wood molding. So 3/8" roughly = .375....... but my experience tells that wood dowel is made a 1/32" under size or roughly . 345 . Great for a potential paper wrap glued together shot hull. Try a penny stack fold also glued. Fill shot and fold or a card over top. Think it's the felt wads disrupting the pattern. Play with variations .
Sounds like it could work. I'm going to revisit this when I get a chance and try this technique. Hopefully I'll be able to get some sort of decent pattern out of it.
Might try doing a case shot load trial? Either a paper case ( a la paper cartridge practice) or maybe a cut off section from a straw? (Extra wide slurpy-straw may be called for here.) Think of it as a homemade flite-contol wad for us lo-teks...
I've gotten a lot of suggestions on ways to possibly get better results with a shot load out of this. I do like your idea of a paper cartridge type system. I'll have to give that a try.
Could you put the black powder pellets in that to ?
I don't think so. I don't think they make the pellets for .36 caliber. The only pellets I've seen are .50 and .44.
I suppose you could crush up the pellets and put them in, but instead of that it would be easier to just get a can of Pyrodex or Triple Seven powder to begin with.
Hi there, where do you insert the primer caps ? o.o
This works the same way as other percussion revolvers - the caps are placed on the cones at the back of the cylinder.
If I wanted to put a birdshead grip from pietta on this pepper box would I have to change the Frame or just the grip wood itself
I believe all you would need is a new backstrap along with the wood grips. I think the trigger guard/front strap would still work with it.
Thank you so much the pepper box has always been my favorite gun I didn't know pietta madw one till yesterday so I have to get it I just wanted a more classic grip look thank you
@@altoid4686 You're welcome!
It's a Poler Table gun. At the distance you are sitting or standing to draw of a Poler Table it would make a mess. I have a .22Mag Derringer. At 10ft the spread is all over the Site Point. It will leave a nice set of holes where you punched it against the Belly.
Yes, it is very much a very short range gun. I was curious to see how well (or not) it would do at a little bit longer distance.
@@johnzx6r sure! I do the same. "Hey Bubba, pass me that 1" .22 Derringer. See that Coke bottle out yonder? 'Bout 200 yards? Yeah-I'm gonna shoot that sucker with the Derringer!"
An entertaining video.
Thank you. Glad you liked it!
Try slipping 1/2 of a empty gelatin capsule over the shot. Go to a drug store and look for empty gelatin capsules in the closest size to the chamber mouth size. After pouring shot in slip in / over 1/2 of a capsule over the shot. If a little loose add a card or felt was on top to hold it in. The capsule should act as a shot shell wad....should dispatch a snake at ten feet.
Hmmm - interesting thought. Might be worth a try!
Surprised I didn't see anyone mention a chain fire. Pretty common on certain historical pepper box.
Yeah, I haven't really noticed that with these pistols, either. So far, I haven't had any with mine.
That would be a great snake gun when your hiking in the woods.
I'd have bought one of these except that a short barrel BP .44 is already pretty marginal for self defense. IMO shooting somebody with an even shorter barrel BP .36 would only piss them off, not stop them.
where do i find a loader and stand
for this
I got mine online from a place called Powder, Inc.
Try 25 to 30gr it should help stabilize the ball a bit more even at 7 yards it sould still put all 6 on standard paper
Maybe if some skilled armorer make a Paradox Rifling to the chambers would make the gun more accurate