Shooting the Allen Thurber pepperbox revolver - TEASER

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  • čas přidán 6. 05. 2017
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    Ladies and gentleman, that's from the beginning of the revolver era. Going back to the first half of the 19th century to check one of the most popular self defense sidearms of the era: the Allen Thurber pepperbox percussion revolver in action. Full version coming soon to the Cpanadball channel.
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Komentáře • 164

  • @alanrogs3990
    @alanrogs3990 Před 3 lety +41

    I like how the grasses are left to grow. I think we go too nuts with lawn care in the US.

    • @noelhalwick1568
      @noelhalwick1568 Před rokem +2

      Lololol that's cuz with all the spent lead laying around, you risk hitting it with the mower and killing someone with a bullet you fired a year ago lolol LMAO!!!

  • @bendiksbendiks1859
    @bendiksbendiks1859 Před 2 lety +20

    It's good that you show them these revolvers from time to time so that we can remember what it was like and why they took such engineering and technical design decisions.

    • @anthonypiranio7409
      @anthonypiranio7409 Před rokem

      I think the black powder revolvers suck if you don't convert them they don't like to go off and constantly jam. Works great when converted though

  • @sirbig8292
    @sirbig8292 Před 4 lety +4

    Short and to the point. The perfect video I was looking for.

  • @donaldschaffer2880
    @donaldschaffer2880 Před 5 lety +37

    One has to love old guns that still preform, good looking too.

    • @tenko8519
      @tenko8519 Před 3 lety +3

      When craftsmanship and artistry was involved. Now look, mass production.

    • @JoeKurr5
      @JoeKurr5 Před 2 lety +3

      @@tenko8519 yeah! How dare manufacturing evolve and become more efficient and less labor intensive.

    • @notforsaletoday1895
      @notforsaletoday1895 Před 2 lety +2

      @@JoeKurr5 The end product is often not nearly as good quality however.

  • @dmitrylitvinov6915
    @dmitrylitvinov6915 Před 5 lety +13

    If Uberti makes a repro, I'd buy one. Great revolver, nice shooting!

  • @skakpedersen
    @skakpedersen Před 4 lety +15

    What a magnificent piece of mechanics!
    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @pikeywyatt
    @pikeywyatt Před 7 lety +47

    love things that go BANG and make you smile.

  • @kaigottwald2195
    @kaigottwald2195 Před 7 lety +2

    sooo looking forward to seeing that pepperbox vid!

  • @curly239
    @curly239 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome! Beautiful metal and woodwork!

  • @stewknoles4790
    @stewknoles4790 Před 7 lety +8

    Can hardly wait guys! We need more videos from you.

  • @maogu1999
    @maogu1999 Před 5 lety +2

    That's a beautiful little piece of engineering right there.

  • @RhodeIslandWildlife
    @RhodeIslandWildlife Před 4 lety

    Looks like fun, can't wait!

  • @blackpowdershooter44
    @blackpowdershooter44 Před 7 lety +1

    Can't wait for the video! Seems like a fun shooter

    • @diktatoralexander88
      @diktatoralexander88 Před 7 lety

      Eeyup. I see a lot of them pepperbox type guns for sale from time to time. Seems he found a good one.

  • @Regules010
    @Regules010 Před 7 lety +2

    Excited for the review!

  • @armadagunshow
    @armadagunshow Před 2 lety

    That's one of my dream guns, thanks for sharing and cheers from France

  • @chiranthchiru6346
    @chiranthchiru6346 Před 7 lety +3

    I love loud noises of old gun... Nice

  • @j.paul.joseph
    @j.paul.joseph Před 7 lety

    Thanks for sharing!!

  • @blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194

    Great pepper box, good video, thank you.

  • @alchemist.88
    @alchemist.88 Před 7 lety

    CAN'T WAIT!

  • @SyluxXIV
    @SyluxXIV Před 6 lety +1

    This gun is extremely interested. I need to get one. Plus i loved the appearance and module

  • @kanonierable
    @kanonierable Před 7 lety +12

    I can't wait to see that, there is so much mentioning of pepperboxes as almost useless, but would they have been so popular and widespread if that was true? I'm very curious about the things to come!

    • @DreamPen
      @DreamPen Před 7 lety +9

      Compared to modern revolver design, a pepperbox design does not have a cylinder gap. Bullets will leave its barrel with more force. I'm not an engineer, but I don't see any problem making a pepperbox that can accept modern ammo. Giving it some sort of swing-out crane and making it sturdy enough to handle pressure from today's cartridges shouldn't be hard.
      The real problem I foresee are cost and size. Each chamber gets its own barrel. The gun will need more material and precision machining compared to modern revolvers. Those extra barrels will also make it more bulky. It will be more inconvenient to carry and harder to conceal.
      As a shooter and consumer, I've got no problem with a modern pepperbox revolver if it works well enough, but a lot will come down to its price. From a manufacturer's perspective, cost is going to be the bottom line.

    • @dougzack4565
      @dougzack4565 Před 7 lety +3

      Should have stopped at "I'm not an engineer"

    • @DreamPen
      @DreamPen Před 7 lety +5

      Please. I don't need a degree to know and say what I posted.
      Some companies have and still make pepperbox-style firearms that function well. It's the cost of making them and their return on investment that's the problem.

    • @CtrlAltRetreat
      @CtrlAltRetreat Před 3 lety +2

      @@DreamPen
      I know this is a long time back but another reason why pepperbox designs fell out of favor is that having more barrels also means multiple points of impact. Trying to align all 6 barrels to have the exact same point of impact is possible but will require some pretty amazingly precise machining that will have very expensive out of tolerance failures. The accuracy reviews will also be terrible as a result.
      Still, a superlight material setup in mousegun caliber as a break open with a modern rimless cartridge ejector star could be an awesome defensive carry piece. The fact that a pepperbox could set the chambers all the way back in the grip area could get more barrel length to let those little bullets up tio a more proper speed and modern metallurgy with the lower pressure rounds could have the barrels small enough and close enough to make the entire package small and easy to carry. I'd buy two... probably in .380

  • @maxhome69
    @maxhome69 Před 3 lety

    MASTERPIECE!!!!!A Jewel!!!

  • @jeffreyreardon7487
    @jeffreyreardon7487 Před 7 lety

    way more power than I thought.

  • @ThisOldHat
    @ThisOldHat Před 7 lety

    Are you ever going to publish the material you did testing medieval-style lamellar armor against bows?

  • @tccoup355
    @tccoup355 Před 7 lety

    Can't wait.

  • @Tomken8d2
    @Tomken8d2 Před 3 lety

    You didn't patch the ball? Did you use wadding underneath it?

  • @behindenemylines3361
    @behindenemylines3361 Před 7 lety

    What a tease!

  • @harinyan_
    @harinyan_ Před 7 lety

    beautiful gun

  • @_FNQ
    @_FNQ Před 7 lety +18

    Brilliant thumbnail

  • @asperg8735
    @asperg8735 Před 5 lety

    Looks like every old school pirate's weapon of choice. I like it

  • @alimovers7015
    @alimovers7015 Před 6 lety

    Fabulous weapons

  • @ludo9234
    @ludo9234 Před 7 lety

    Looks like your having a fun time ..

  • @tom_olofsson
    @tom_olofsson Před 2 lety

    Very nice.

  • @InnerSilence123
    @InnerSilence123 Před 7 lety +1

    wow, breaking the mith of pepperbox guns! that one looks like serious business,

  • @keithlarsen7557
    @keithlarsen7557 Před 6 lety +1

    Wait a minute... are you the model for the bad guy target at 0:35?

  • @TwentythreePER
    @TwentythreePER Před 7 lety +5

    It seemed to shoot well. It hit the target twice before it fell. Pretty impressive.

  • @keyipeibuidailiam7800
    @keyipeibuidailiam7800 Před 5 lety

    Cool classic gun

  • @BrillPappin
    @BrillPappin Před 7 lety +1

    man, I hate it when you tease us!

  • @jonathanl2748
    @jonathanl2748 Před 2 lety

    Man, I love guns.

  • @sinergicus
    @sinergicus Před 3 lety +1

    Can we find plans about how to replicate this ?

  • @x.adam1
    @x.adam1 Před 3 lety +1

    Saw one last month at a gun show for $800. Pricey but cool.

  • @shuritgaming8038
    @shuritgaming8038 Před 7 lety

    nice new video 😎

  • @boandersson5276
    @boandersson5276 Před 5 lety +2

    I hope this thing, which I´ve bought and possess legally will put an end to my miseries for good

    • @13thvarebel16
      @13thvarebel16 Před 2 lety

      Are you ok...and how does your comment have likes?

  • @gustavoargumanis1863
    @gustavoargumanis1863 Před 4 lety +2

    Was that one of the guns that Tuco rejected?

  • @gaymansupreme
    @gaymansupreme Před 3 lety

    Fable 2 Turret Pistol.
    Definitely the inspiration.

  • @pacman10182
    @pacman10182 Před 7 lety +16

    "dirtbag" I'm guessing that's the polite way of saying it.

    • @pribekpisti531
      @pribekpisti531 Před 7 lety

      tyler roberts that's exactly what I was thinking :'D

  • @SFsc616171
    @SFsc616171 Před 5 lety +1

    To those that do not know, the "cartoon of the 1849'er (gold) miner", had in one hand a pepperbox revolver, and a Bowie knife in the other. Formidable, is he not?

  • @cyclotechtwister1997
    @cyclotechtwister1997 Před 5 lety

    Purchase Link?

  • @user-sh2lu2uc3u
    @user-sh2lu2uc3u Před 3 lety

    Cool gun.

  • @AA-sz5wm
    @AA-sz5wm Před 7 lety

    Colonel Mustard on Library using the thumbnail!

  • @Usnz411
    @Usnz411 Před 6 lety

    Whats he name of the singing bird in the back ground ?

  • @dobremarian1234
    @dobremarian1234 Před 3 měsíci

    And just a quick reminder that this was made in the late 18th-early 19th century (you had to spin the barrel by hand tho)

  • @warmachine_1396
    @warmachine_1396 Před 7 lety

    I want one!

  • @AlCapuccinoo
    @AlCapuccinoo Před 6 lety +1

    The cluedo's gun 😍

  • @pteromaniabyyuriykovalchyk1762

    Cool!
    How old this gun ?

  • @toonbat
    @toonbat Před rokem

    "It was a cheerful weapon--the "Allen." Sometimes all its six barrels would go off at once, and then there was no safe place in all the region round about, but behind it.” - Mark Twain, 'Roughin' It'.

  • @akm9733
    @akm9733 Před 2 lety

    Nice

  • @kieranfitz
    @kieranfitz Před 7 lety +2

    Now I feel stupid, I always thought you had to rotate a pepper box pistil manually.

    • @assaultspoon4925
      @assaultspoon4925 Před 5 lety

      To be fair, not many people are aware of just how intricate watchmakers of the day could make their mechinisms.
      It truly is amazing to think how they would build something so complicated from scratch with nothing but handtools and measuring devices

  • @paulvalmadre5493
    @paulvalmadre5493 Před 5 lety

    That thing is like a hand held Cannon.

  • @mattiazanini7495
    @mattiazanini7495 Před 6 lety

    wow!

  • @tubbers20
    @tubbers20 Před 2 lety

    Needs a speed loader. :-) Saw one that was an underhammer with 32 barrels.

  • @timothywest2211
    @timothywest2211 Před 4 lety

    Ware can i buy one of those. I'm into all black powder guns

  • @Momo_Kawashima
    @Momo_Kawashima Před 3 lety

    Facts: the Colt 1851 Navy is just a .45 caliber pepperbox with a barrel and a ram rod included

    • @anderwmarcell9503
      @anderwmarcell9503 Před 2 lety

      Colt Navy 1851 is .36 caliber and single action only.Many pepper box revolvers were fitted with a barrel extension . These were transition revolvers

  • @neilsanghvi5229
    @neilsanghvi5229 Před 7 lety

    And that's why you don't mess with Richard Harrow in any century.

  • @slorenzobottini9566
    @slorenzobottini9566 Před 2 lety

    The floreal engraving remember me the guns of roland deschain of the dark tower saga

  • @tothista4477
    @tothista4477 Před 3 lety

    Super, but very short video!

  • @cowboywoodard2569
    @cowboywoodard2569 Před 2 lety

    Also the Duck foot , fired all barrels

  • @eltioneganv8359
    @eltioneganv8359 Před rokem

    * No mercy Percy enters the chat *

  • @waptek2
    @waptek2 Před 4 lety +1

    ok , do want

    • @AnilKumar-xf3qv
      @AnilKumar-xf3qv Před 3 lety +1

      Desi katta pistol revolver contact Karen
      8875167232

  • @gun189-f5c
    @gun189-f5c Před 2 lety

    Very good pistol Gun the best

  • @ballsflying
    @ballsflying Před 5 lety +1

    Very cool gun from the age of steam. Love how you smoke that plate with two rapid shots.

    • @garymartin2059
      @garymartin2059 Před 4 lety

      Age of steam?

    • @badbrad8918
      @badbrad8918 Před 3 lety +1

      @@garymartin2059 As in steamboats, steam trains, steam boilers to power and/or heat buildings.

  • @shahidislam7297
    @shahidislam7297 Před 3 lety

    Nice gun
    How much this is old

  • @johnchambers2996
    @johnchambers2996 Před 2 lety

    Mark Twain commented on the Pepperbox that the safest place to be was in front of it.

    • @teamnoob52
      @teamnoob52 Před rokem +2

      Actually he said, " It was a cheerful weapon-the ‘Allen.’ Sometimes all its six barrels would go off at once and then there was no safe place in all the region roundabout but behind it." The very last place he would have stood was in front of it, not much wanting to catch the blast of what had just become an ersatz volley gun.

    • @johnchambers2996
      @johnchambers2996 Před rokem +1

      @@teamnoob52 Thanks for the feedback. Perhaps the enclosed area surrounding the percussion caps would lead to chain firing from the rear whereas revolvers tended to have that issue from the cylinder face.

  • @larryrobinson6914
    @larryrobinson6914 Před 2 lety +1

    Mark Twain had choice words about this!!!!!!!!!

  • @user-pq4gl3zl4m
    @user-pq4gl3zl4m Před 9 měsíci

    This is the pistol of military nurse Florence Nightingale from the FGO

  • @sora64444
    @sora64444 Před 4 lety

    that is the cuttest revolver i have ever seen

  • @PritamKumar-bi5dm
    @PritamKumar-bi5dm Před 7 lety

    Nice ...but plz...make long video...of this gun

    • @capandball
      @capandball  Před 7 lety +6

      That's just the teaser. The full film is coming soon.

  • @pickeljarsforhillary102

    Duel wield!

  • @TaZ101SAGA
    @TaZ101SAGA Před 7 lety

    These guns have always puzzled me because they are double action. I've always wondered why arms companies took so long to standardize double action revolvers when this thing was around decades before. Why did it take so much longer to implement double action mechanisms into revolvers?

    • @mottee
      @mottee Před 7 lety +3

      These guns have double action *only* trigger; that is, you can't cock the hammer by hand, the only way to fire is to pull the trigger. It's much more difficult to implement a true DA firing mechanism found in almost every DA revolver.
      Another thing may be that a conventional revolver needs quite precise cylinder timing so that the camber sits locked exactly behind the barrel's forcing cone at the moment of firing. Implementing this is more difficult in DA when all the parts of the firing and locking mechanism are moving simultaneously. It's easier in single action when the cylinder rotates and locks first, before the trigger is pulled. The only requirement for timing of a pepperbox is that the hammer hits the cap or primer.

    • @nomadpi1
      @nomadpi1 Před 2 lety

      I read that the Starr DA revolver was the subject of much criticism when deployed because the users simply couldn't operate them correctly. Apparently, so ingrained was the100 year background habit of hammer cocking, which the Starr DA revolver couldn't operate with, that the Starr DA was dropped from issue to soldiers. The Pepperbox's trigger was the DA part. Neither the metal nor the ability of the action permitted a true DA revolver until the Starr came along.

    • @63DW89A
      @63DW89A Před 2 lety

      @@nomadpi1 The Starr used a very primitive DA mechanism that was prone to malfunction. The sear was a tiny projection barely visible at the rear of the trigger guard. To fire DA, the "trigger" had a sliding bar at the back that had to be pushed down and locked, allowing the "trigger" to trip the sear at the rear of the trigger-stroke and drop the hammer. For SA fire, the sliding trigger bar was moved to upper position and locked, The trigger was then pulled to the rear, rotating and locking the cylinder, and cocking the hammer. The trigger was released and the shooter then used the sear to SA fire the revolver. Overall a clumsy, impractical system. U.S. Ordnance requested that Starr make SA revolvers, and the Star SA revolver was respected as an effective revolver and fairly well liked. IMO, had Starr eliminated the troublesome "SA/DA-selector sliding trigger bar" and made his Pocket .31, Navy .36 and Army .44 revolvers in "DA only" he would have had a very successful DA revolver for the civilian market. [NOTE Civilians were well acquainted with the popular "DA only" Hopkins & Allen pepperboxes, and would have jumped at a Starr DA revolver's superior accuracy and more efficient design over the popular pepperbox ]. The Starr revolver's primitive mechanism would work very well as either "SA only" or "DA only", but floundered in the ease of transition use between SA/DA that our modern revolver designs are noted for.

  • @sandmanhh67
    @sandmanhh67 Před 7 lety

    Oh you saucy little temptress ;-)

  • @josefelipeolan6143
    @josefelipeolan6143 Před 3 lety

    Good

  • @sanjaymahato7138
    @sanjaymahato7138 Před 3 lety

    0:39 that evil laugh...😅

  • @ethanross5919
    @ethanross5919 Před 7 lety +6

    can i have it?

  • @tiffanitoenail840
    @tiffanitoenail840 Před 3 lety

    The most dangerous man in Europe

  • @sirgigachad1894
    @sirgigachad1894 Před 3 lety

    The thumbnail lol

  • @linasmagnum
    @linasmagnum Před 7 lety

    Funny thing , here in Lithuania historical guns (pre-1870) are not considered as firearms,no registration needed, but if I have one I'm not allowed to fire it.

    • @sandmanhh67
      @sandmanhh67 Před 7 lety

      We have the same sort of rules in England too mate, except here the year is not the key factor its the type of ammunition the gun or rifle uses. If it is no longer manufactured, nor has been for a long time, then the guns are classed as "Obsolete Caliber" in that you cant get ammunition. So a Martini Henry rifle is the last of the line of British army rifles you can own as an antique "curio". Everything before that is fine, every rifle from the Enfield SMLE 303 types onwards is not allowed.....you have to get them deactivated.
      All muzzle loading black powder "cap and ball" or flintlocks are classed as "Obsolete".
      We can still own and fire these old guns if we so wish, but that needs a special gun license which is a pain in the arse to get.

    • @linasmagnum
      @linasmagnum Před 7 lety

      Oh well, we have to register and get license for modern replica muzzle loaders thogh, which is fairly easy, no club membership required and we can fire them at the range, for now at least.

    • @TreeWizard648
      @TreeWizard648 Před 7 lety

      sandmanhh67 As an American, I am wondering how many people own antique firearms in England and shoot them in a remote location so the authorities don't know that the person actually fires the gun? I would imagine that would happen in the US often if we had a similar law.

    • @sandmanhh67
      @sandmanhh67 Před 7 lety +1

      Id be surprised if you found even a handful, as you cant buy black powder without a license.....and Brits hearing gunshots in the wilds will always ring the Police. Remember mate, we are a nation that does not have widespread gun ownership.
      You would have to be an idiot to risk the potential ramifications if the police caught you.
      There are legal ways to own and shoot historical guns, and a healthy historical black powder shooting hobby scene centred on Bisley Shooting Ground in Surrey. Getting a license is a pain, and the storage requirements & transport rules equally so.....but its better than a few years in prison and massive fines.
      So....you end up with historical collecters like me owning enough guns and blades to outfit a small army.....but none of them go bang ever.

    • @TreeWizard648
      @TreeWizard648 Před 7 lety

      sandmanhh67 You can make black powder yourself, and I believe pyrodex is less regulated. I am not sure if there are any areas in Britain so remote that nobody would know if you discharge a firearm. There is a far greater amount of land in the US, and I believe Americans have a far more rebellious attitude than British people. Breaking certain laws is socially acceptable in the US. After all, we are a county founded on rebellion.

  • @tactical_p0tato
    @tactical_p0tato Před 4 lety

    This is the gun from the clue board game XD

  • @mategaras3029
    @mategaras3029 Před 7 lety

    Az a beszólás a végére... megérne egy feliratot a külföldi nézők kedvéért :D

    • @capandball
      @capandball  Před 7 lety +1

      :) ott van a felirat... kicsit puhítva :)

  • @adrian_zombturtle148
    @adrian_zombturtle148 Před 6 lety +1

    But he only shot it twice

  • @cloudcutter81
    @cloudcutter81 Před 3 měsíci

    Percival Fredrickstein von Musel Klossowski de Rolo III sends his regards...

  • @fosty.
    @fosty. Před rokem

    The pistol from Cluedo/Clue!

  • @AlexDonnett
    @AlexDonnett Před 7 lety

    these are so small for a 1850s six shooter

  • @pali9985
    @pali9985 Před 3 lety

    "Viszont hangos ez a kis fostarisznya".

  • @deepboruah6529
    @deepboruah6529 Před 6 lety

    I Like revolver

  • @LinkMorganM
    @LinkMorganM Před 4 lety

    YOUR SOUL IS FORFEIT!

  • @bldlightpainting
    @bldlightpainting Před 7 lety

    Shouldn't that ball have been larger? It just fell into the barrel.

    • @AlexDonnett
      @AlexDonnett Před 7 lety

      TheFew TheProud he shoved wadding in after it so that the wadding fills in the gaps as the ball shoots down the barrel this way the ball isnt bouncing down the barrel and being really inaccuracte

  • @miklosanosi1350
    @miklosanosi1350 Před 6 lety +2

    random keresgélés során épp egy magyar videó :) a komment a végén hatalmas :D

  • @ranavalona24
    @ranavalona24 Před 5 lety +1

    Two handed grip? Looks wrong.

  • @LChem1
    @LChem1 Před 4 lety

    JosephsMyth the Mormon profit had one of these at Carthage jail. Rumor says two shots misfired. He jumped from the 2nd story window and yada yada yah.

  • @edaaa926
    @edaaa926 Před 7 lety +4

    Hahahahha, very cool gun