Engwe EP 2 Pro - 750 Watts - Ebike Review and Test Ride
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2022
- The Engwe battery is a lot better than I reported on this video. While I got 22 miles during this test, I was able to get 32 miles on my battery range test riding at PAS 3 on cruise control!
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My recommendation is to order the version that includes a second battery! It is well worth the $50 extra! It is called the EP-2 Pro (Battery Pack) on the website.
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Hi Russ, I us your link and I perched the EP 2 pro with the second battery, fist time one the road with it, fist ebike, I'm 58 years old and 255 + pounds, no problem for this bike, loving it. Thank you Russ
Thanks!
Hi, the bike gods have cut me a break. I just bought one for 900.00 three weeks old. retired couple, says it's too much bike for him. I respect that. I finally scored. It's got 39 miles on it.
I've just ordered a new one £680
@@fastandyc You are going to like it. I have made changes to mine. 900+ miles so far. No problem at all.
@@Saddletramp1200 hopefully!
@@fastandyc like a motorcycle it gets faster after a couple hundred miles. I set cruise at 25 mph & it holds it for 3 miles straight stretch. Don't worry the battery much either. It's a better bike than folks give it credit for.
Russ, I have this bike (older version with 12.8v battery) for about 3 mos now. Loving it! Of course like most ebikes, changed grips, peddles, and seat makes it greater bike. Also on the real responsive turning, I added wider handlebars 660mm and makes steering much less squirrelly. Also I change freewheel to 11-28 to keep up with peddles, use mainly PAS. Changed brakes to hydraulic hybrid. Can’t seem to keep my wife off it. Great bike for the money!
Good to hear from some longer term users!
this bike has the best mudguards I have seen in fatbikes. They are as it's supposed to be, with half circunference.
Good video Russ. I'm just about ready to order one. Watched loads of reviews on this bike. Seems best for me.
Where the mechanical disc brakes OK. Some complained not hydraulic.
And all that I've seen had the throttle
I'm wanting ebike to help me up hills not get me from a to b. I still want & need the exercise. I'm 77 in UK
I am not into e biking, however subscribed for your charming personality.
Thank you!
Nice review Russ thanks for all you do..
Thank you for sharing this with me. I just finished the first video. I'll be sure to watch the rest
Excellent detailed review Russ. Nice foldable bike, very similar to my Lectric XP 2.0. The Engwe has superior range and bigger motor 750 watts to the Lectric with a great price and 2 batteries at $1,099. I mostly ride in PAS 4 20+mph so my range is less but a lot of fun! The Engwe is a great entry level type bike. Anxious to upgrade to the Cruiser Pro when I get back from vacation next month.
Hey Russ this bike seems pretty interesting, I have seen other riders change out the handle bars for bmx style handlebars on this bike and this effectively lowers the neck stem, helps with turning comfort and makes for a more familiar riding style.
My fabulous ebike echo step has MAG Wheels I would never own a bike with spokes again it's so nice no maintenance highly recommend bikes with mag wheels
Looks a great bike Russ, just what I’m looking for.
I agree with the mirror I’m gonna have to get a new one
Nice Job Russ. I love the folding bikes so much fun and different than the big cruisers.
Agree. Folding all the way
I got this exact same bike, with an extra 16ah battery. Gotta say, this bike is an absolute blast. Plenty of grunt, and eats hills for breakfast, also reaches 30mph with ease. Btw, you can change the pedal assist in the settings, another great thing about this bike, it's easy to modify
Yes, I found out later the assist levels can be changed.
Nice Review Russ. This bike sounds like a comparable to the Lectric XP 2.0.
I have owned this bike for about 4 weeks. My bike has a different controller (TZ5). Egnwe needs to post a video explaining the controller parameters and how they should be adjusted. The kickstand malfunctioned after about 20 uses. It tilted too far forward when down and weight was applied resulting in the bike leaning too much. I fixed the problem using a button size rare earth magnet placed in the metal part of the mechanism to serve as a stop. It's a poor design with cheap plastic parts that break easily. You had a standard delivery for FedEx. My box was also damaged. Only damage to the bike was the derailleur protecter was bent inward. The fork shipping brace was also not attached. No bent fork or squeaking brakes, but the gear indexing needed some adjustment. Battery rattles, but this can be improved with thin stick on pads. This is a great value if it proves reliable.
Thanks Russ, great review. Currently, I'm still considering the Walmart Hyper E as my first ebike. I don't want to spend $1,500 and discover that I can't bike, as I'm older and not in decent shape.
Just make sure you get a step-thru as opposed to a step-over.
@@davidh8293 thanks!
Your description on how this rides makes me realize I made the right choice in picking a 20 in bike due to my 5'6 height. A larger, heavier bike would have been too cumbersome for me.
Guys, learn from Fed Ex, if you ever come home and the wife asks about the lipstick on your shirt, 😇just respond: "What lipstick?"
Honest comments 😊
nice one Russ. The smaller 20inch wheel ebikes probably cope better with hills due to wheel ratio. Seems like a great bike, epic for the price to be honest. I would be nice if they did a hydraulic brake option. Cheers for the review.
Thanks!
They do offer that brake option on their more expensive bike
I like the bike a lot overall. I have the older model with the slightly smaller battery. I like the throttle being dependent on PAS level, it makes it very intentional how fast you want to go. Level 3 or less is good for the paths. It’s also pretty customizable in the settings, so you can add levels and adjust their behavior.
That’s a good deal with the double battery. I got the bike itself for substantially less, but no double battery deal back then. I’ve gotten it to 35 miles on one battery putting in some work at level 2 and 3. Don’t trust the battery gauge though, had it give out on me on a trip to the pool a couple weeks ago. Said I still had battery, it gave out on the way back going up the big hill. I’m able to pedal it, but you’d have been in trouble (luckily you’ll have a second battery). It gets some significant sag, so the meter fluctuates a lot under load (drops to 2 bars, but you back off a bit and it comes back up to 3 or 4).
Good to know.
You can go to settings and make the throttle independent
Good review. Would work well with my rv.
It's got better range than I thought! I just did the battery range test and got a lot more than the 22 miles I reported here. Stay tuned for the video!
Russ, on the video it’s hard to judge the hill incline. You have mostly flat terrain there. We have hills in CT, not like Vermont but still we have considerable steep hills.
Glad they didn't send you the mini model, you would have looked funny riding that thing. I like their C20 Pro, comes with a massive 19ah battery and with the 250W motor, it must really have a long range.
Yes, I would look a bit ridiculous on a mini bike!
Enjoyed the video, well done. How about including some info on warranty on bike, motor and tires. How about service? Not all bike shops will work on some ebikes because they can’t get parts. Also you reference pedal assist but don’t mention if any gears, 1, 5, 10?
Thanks, waiting for the next one.
Good point. 7 gears.
I think we can all agree that the support with these Chinese companies are a crap shoot. I know all bikes are basically from China but I went with an EBike company from the US and appreciate the supporT over China based companies
It is interesting to me that you are able to go slower and maintain your balance. Some of that I guess relates to smaller tires, but do you think some of that relates to lighter bike? Also it seems bumpier. Does it feel that way? I'm thinking about the shock on my wrist and whether it will start hurting after 20 miles plus ride.
I think it may be the lower center of gravity.
I am very surprised they didn’t send you the updated Engine Pro model as it is one of the best folding bikes available for the money. Full suspension, hydraulic brakes and 16AH battery. Also put BMX handlebars on the bike and the handling improves and those modification videos always do well on CZcams.
Well, you have to remember, they first contacted me very early on before I even did any ebike reviews. So, I didn't have quite the reputation on CZcams that I enjoy today. Maybe you can contact them and tell them to send me one of their better bikes to review! Ha! :)
Russ. Did you release this video at midnight or is my phone not working correctly? Glad that you got the new fork. This is Dan
It is possible that I didn’t auto release it at 7 AM as I usually do!
Wow that box/bike was in bad shape!! nothing like my bike's condition was in!! Think they were trying to have you except a really bad box of goods!! Nice folding package, easy to store in a car!! Great price on this bike!! Cruise control too!!!
Surprisingly good!
Technically I think Engwe can require you to settle up with FedEx if they damage the bike in shipping (no obligation on their part to take the bike back because of shipping damage). It's a roll of the dice. They really need to add spray foam to their packaging.
Great review! Just curious, how do you get it to go without peddling at all? i tried it i level 5 and still had to pedal
It has cruise control. If you hold the throttle at any specific speed above a certain threshold for at least 8 seconds it will kick in (not sure what the minimum speed is… over 10 or 12 mph? Just a guess). To cancel, either start pedaling or tap the brakes.
Didnt realise you had to enable throttle only. Had to power off the bike-twist throttle, hold brake and power back on. Bike now works with throttle only! Many thanks :)
I am thinking to get an orange one.
Nice looking bike, kinda reminds me of a Lectric bike.
Many of these types of bikes look similar.
@@RussIsRight and I like that, it means if I like a frame chances are there is a builder giving it the options I want, like a 750W motor!
Nice review. Hard to imagine that bike weighing 83lbs. Is it steel or aluminum? The RadExpand5 we have appears to have a beefier frame, and weighs around 65lbs, as I recall. I don't even think my RadRover5 weighs 83lbs.
It weighs 70 lbs or so. I think that 83 might have been inclusive of the packing materials or something.
@@Nemonurwingy Good point about overall total of packing mat'ls.
Yeah, that has to be the bike and the box for weight.
@@RussIsRight 👍
you said you can't stretch the leg completely when pedaling. How tall you are?
5'10"
Having full speed on the throttle despite the PAS setting is a safety issue, IMO. I usually ride on PAS 2 but when I need the throttle occasionally, I want it all there to avoid close calls with traffic. BTW, does it fit in your car?
Have not tried in my car, but if I had to guess I would say not in the trunk. Maybe the rear seat, but I can’t lift it in there by myself.
@@RussIsRight And you're a big guy, imagine some small woman trying to take her folding bike someplace. A folding bike that is heavy makes little sense. The new XP Lite is easy to carry but its battery is just too wimpy.
@@pedrofernandez8729 That’s pretty much a problem with almost all ebikes, though. They are heavy, if you’re going to take them places you have to be able to pick them up, even if you’re putting them on a rack. The folders get way more compact, which is still an advantage for transportation or storage.
@@pedrofernandez8729 I just did the range test of this ebike and it was shockingly better than the 22 miles I reported here on this test. 32 miles! Watch the video when it comes out for the full report of how I did it.
@@RussIsRight Pretty impressive, for a 750 w motor, I wonder how their customer service is compared to the more established brands. Lectric and RAD do very well in that dept. Lectric owners always seem to have a problem with range anxiety and they price their batteries so high that it keeps people from buying an extra one. Engwe has the right idea to give you an extra battery for little money, as you said, it's a no-brainer to opt for that deal.
I was looking at their website and it seems the newer upgraded engwe 2 pro does not come with the second battery option. Only the older version has the option for the second battery. Can you confirm this?
It does not come with a second battery. But if you look, there is an option to buy the bike with a second battery. It is listed as EP-2 Pro (Battery Pack). Look closer at this version and it shows it has one extra battery. $1099.99.
Let me double check with Engwe though. Best to do that. It does say 750 watt on the 2 battery pack version, but the photo looks a bit different.
I see the upgraded version has a different frame like the one you have. Only difference is the front .. But the ones with the extra battery option doesn't look like the updated version. Thanks
@@nathanheu1616 I just noticed that too. I have sent an email to the company to find out for sure. Thanks for pointing that out. They saw the video before I published it and said nothing about it. Let's wait to see what they say now.
@Nathan Heu - I sent an email to Engwe to clarify and they said that what is offered with the second battery is indeed the newest upgraded ebike and the latest 13 ah battery. So, it is a very good deal. They said it is the lowest priced deal they have ever offered. They also said that the old model was discontinued in April. So there you go! At $1099, you get the upgraded ebike and the upgraded 13ah second battery!
Mike from Long Island here, wonderful review Russ. Just yesterday I asked you about the ocelot. I know you are very excited to check that one out. So am i. But it appears they're not shipping until the end of september. And I would hate to waste a month not riding with my wife. Now that you did this review on the engwe, and considering it seems to have what I want, especially the fact that my wife and I but typically Cruise between 8 and 12 mph all the time and you indicate the slow pedal assist modes might be perfect for that, looks like I should consider this bike. Also, I believe the folding aspect for me is important because we might want to take it various places and I have a Nissan rogue and I wonder if two bikes would fit in the back. And considering it's half the price of the ocelot, don't you think it's worth it? Seems like you got around really well on it and you were not complaining in terms of comfort. And the cruise control is a nice feature. The bottom line is we typically do gentle cruising through neighborhoods, and then we will take some trips each summer to Parks etc for some trail cruising in which case we'll need to transport. And the second battery option is so obvious. One last thing, do you think it's okay to always fold and unfold the bike to remove the battery? I don't have electric in my shed so I would have to remove the battery and take it inside. Do you think over time that would be a problem? Thanks again and we'll speak soon.
The only thing I did not like about this ebike is that it doesn't have a lot of torque going up hills. On a couple of videos coming up in the next few days, you'll see me riding it at a state park. I could not get up the hills with it! Granted, it was rather steep hills, it just could not do it. The Oscelot Pro would most likely get up over those hills because even my wife's RAD Mini Step Thru 2 bike could have made it up the hills where this one could not. So, if you have hills to conquer, then this bike is not for you. The Oscelot Pro would definitely have made it. It has the same torque as the Cruiser. But, if you don't have big hills to climb, it's hard to beat this bike for the money. As for folding it over and over, it should be ok. The only thing will be the latch will eventually loosen up. There is a set screw that holds the latch locked in place. You might have to adjust that over time. It is what keeps the latch from opening up too easily. Oh, also, they only include one charger. If you want a second charger for the second battery, it's only available on Amazon: amzn.to/3AscRnb
Oh, one more thing... while the saddle is ok, it's not the best. You might want to upgrade it. Many people upgrade saddles... they don't always give you the best. While this saddle is cushy, it's not the best. I usually go with the Bikeroo saddle with elastomers (not springs). See the description of the video for my accessories.
Almost no hills here. Just occasional small inclines. The main thing for me is my wife is not the most steady or the most athletic. Utmost concern is her safety. Torque is nice when you need it but it's not definitely high on my list. Comfort and bike stability the most important. And maybe a better seat with suspension would help. At this price you're right it's hard to beat. I see that heybike makes one of the similar price but without a second battery. But the battery location seems to be much better under the seat. I suppose that's my doubt having the battery in the down tube.
Small inclines should be ok. Big inclines, forget it. As for the battery, many bikes like this put it in the frame to keep it out of the way. And, nobody can steal this battery without a key. I'm not kidding. You cannot pull this battery out unless you have a key. Also, the second battery has its own key. They are not key'ed alike. Good and bad. Good that someone with a similar key cannot get to the battery, bad that you must carry two individual keys with you if you bring your second battery with you. Of course, if you lock up your bike, you should take that second battery with you and not leave it on the rear rack. I'll be working on a battery range test today. Watch for the video in an upcoming video.
@Mike Durso Before you order anything, I have an email to the company to confirm if the 2 battery version is the new upgraded bike or not. A subscriber noticed that the photo is different from my bike. I sent them the video to watch before publication to be sure they were ok with what I was saying about the product specs and they said nothing about it. If it is the older frame / motor, then that changes things of course. The bike itself (the newest version) is fine... but the deal with two batteries might be for the older bike. We'll see. I'll let you know after I hear from them. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm considering this bike for my son to use as a commuter to High School and then college. I'm concerned with the LCD being vandalized or stolen. Can it be easily removed while he's in class and kept with him and then reinstalled? thx
He would need to unscrew it and then just detach the cable. It is not hard but a hassle. Maybe he could devise a mounting option for the display screen with Velcro or something. But remember, Ebikes are targeted by thieves. Something to consider.
@@RussIsRight my first thought was perhaps I could substitute mobile phone holder in lieu of the factory mounting hardware that way allowing easy on and off access. Do you think that could be a viable option or are there some proprietary needs that the factory mount provides such as the actual wired connection?
@@RussIsRight also could anyone just open up the folding mechanism and remove the battery while the bike is left unattended? Or is there anti theft lock to deter this?
Not sure if a phone mount would hold it. Might have to Velcro it to it or something. Nobody can take the battery without a key. You can lock the battery onto the frame on the second position.
Don't take an e-bike to college. It will get stolen. I got my son a $200 Wal Mart bike for college. It was stolen within 2 weeks. I then bought him a $20 clunker from Goodwill and put an NRA sticker on it. It wasn't stolen. It's a shame, but that's the world we live in now.
Hi Russ
Been watching your CZcams for a while and notice you have your mirror on handlebar.
I mounted mine mirror underneath the handlebar I know it look odd but I can see behind more.
Tgan mounted the mirror like yours as I only see my body and arm.
Try it and u understand hard to write.
I find that mirrors in non standard positions. Get knocked around a bit more. I would keep a spare in case. I myself ride with 4 mirrors just like the scooters in the movie Quadrophenia. Sting rode the coolest scooter and i like the look on my trike. ;-)
I bought this very bike, WITH, the extra battery! You would be a FOOL, not to!!!
You have the 16ah battery option for this bike 👍
The ones provided to me were 13 ah versions.
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Nice place...what city is that?
It is in the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago
About half way, did you pass by a nun? At first she looked like a ghost. Seems like a fun bike. My ebike, a Magnum, has a 500 w motor and I have to downshift to go up big hills. But it does it.
Maybe you are seeing things! 🤣 Now I will need to watch again and look.
@@RussIsRight it is at 27:39 and the next couple seconds. Right before a bridge. She is on the left, all in white.
Oh yeah… that was a nun. 😊
@@Marilynlovesebiking Heck, I missed that watching this morning. Does go by quick, and eerily sorta. 😳
@@retnav92 yes. How often do you see a nun in full habit walking along a public path?
how to remove battery help..
Unfold the bike and then put the key in. Then pull out the battery.
Hi Russ! I got the same bike, I like it but it isn't for short person like me.
How short are you?
@@RussIsRight 5'2
@@stressypoo911 Yes, these bikes are not step thru bikes, but rather step over bikes. I can see where this could be an issue if a person doesn't have a long enough inseam.
Do you know a product reviewer company this really will help me thank you
Not sure what you are asking. These companies came directly to me.
@@RussIsRight do you know the company's name who do the bikes telephone number or something like that
@@blackice1994 Sorry, I do not have telephone numbers for the manufacturers.
@@RussIsRight do you know the company's name
@@blackice1994 No. These manufacturers that I did reviews on came directly to me.
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My bike had a problem, it obviously needed fixing, and a part to fix the fault, a cable, or maybe a motor. I go to the engwe site, no parts there, so email support@engwe email on the site. No reply. I then try service@ email asking what my error code was, which part? They reply eventually saying there's no such fault. Can I send them a video of the fault. Of me twisting the throttle and nothing working? I sent the error code display, which obviously exists. They still know nothing about that code. 7 emails, each asking for where I get parts? Which bafang motor will fit in the wheel if they can't supply parts Never answered. I gave up after 7 pointless emails with the last from them suggesting I take it to a maintenence hub...but no clue where they are located. Useless.
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Bro This bike no 20 it’s 22 when you set go fast
Obviously a Chinese made bike, I've seen tons of them from about $500,all badged differently of course
Throttle can be changed to independent from settings
Hey I got a question. I’m looking to buy this bike, but do you think the battery will survive if you’re cycling for around 4 to 5 hours?
No. You would need to change out batteries. Get the two battery option on this bike if you plan to ride for a long time.
@@RussIsRight I would definitely get the second battery. But I’m looking to get an e-bike for my job as a delivery driver in the Netherlands, which requires 4 to 5 hours of cycling give or take. I wouldn’t want to spend more than a thousand euros on a bike, but if you say one battery won’t last for 4 hours at least, then I guess I’ll have no choice..
@@raziel88 I suppose if you used a very low pedal assist and didn't throttle, it could last... but as a delivery driver, I doubt you would wan the workout! You'd likely want to throttle a bunch of the time and that won't work on one battery for that long. I am a big guy and weigh a lot, but with two batteries, I was able to pedal and use the throttle for around 33 miles on this bike with one battery. This was very conservatively riding and not going very fast. For delivery, you need to move a lot faster than that, so your mileage would drop significantly. Two batteries would definitely be something to consider with the second battery strapped to the rear rack. But then you have to wonder about how you would put your items if you are delivering things. I once did a ride with my wife and we went around 30 miles and I used up both batteries and I was going around 12 mph both pedaling and throttling. So there is a big difference in how hard you use that throttle.