STOICON '16: Bill Irvine - On Becoming an Insult Pacifist

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  • čas přidán 22. 11. 2016
  • Bill Irvine's talk at STOICON '16 on being pacifistic toward insults from October 15th 2016 in New York City.

Komentáře • 25

  • @kansascityraver
    @kansascityraver Před 6 lety +13

    I think it would be a grand idea to introduce a moral ethics class to the high school-aged population. Most people don't make it to college but could benefit from philosophical knowledge.

    • @johnmizenko8301
      @johnmizenko8301 Před 4 lety

      I keep reading THE GOOD LIFE's "Insults" chapter and wonder ... Maybe I am too idealistically ignorant, but I'll bet this chapter could easily be translated into a small useful workbook / handbook for teachers, therapists, and social workers, especially for African Americans with what they have to endure. Has anyone done exactly that?

  • @livewiya
    @livewiya Před 5 měsíci

    It would be interesting if he had a conversation with Prof. B Rahula (Bhikkhu Basnagoda Rahula). He makes a convincing argument that Early Buddhism put significant emphasis on practicality in everyday people's life, but various historical factors have led to its relative neglect.

  • @elizabethfarrell9650
    @elizabethfarrell9650 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for sharing. :D

  • @bohoco2009
    @bohoco2009 Před 7 lety +2

    amazing speaker.

  • @davincimemes3631
    @davincimemes3631 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for sharing! :)

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 Před 6 lety +2

    I notice alot about stoics and have been practicing some of it I cannot call it true stoicism but one of the biggest things is seeming is that dealing with uncomfortable people and stoics will often test each other secretly making the other uncomfortable while appearing calm . It's not true pacifism like eastern Asia but it's ancient Greeks version of pacifism.

  • @greendeane1
    @greendeane1 Před rokem

    Some people deserve to be insulted. So, if you want to be remembered insult people.

  • @greendeane1
    @greendeane1 Před rokem

    I stopped teaching at an annual event because it had safe spaces. Political correctness is more important than subject matter.

  • @kennethcarvalho3684
    @kennethcarvalho3684 Před 6 lety +2

    Need to provide a mike on stand ..so speaker can focus on his topic

  • @chazchillings3019
    @chazchillings3019 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow a stoicon. I like.

  • @greendeane1
    @greendeane1 Před rokem

    Society is now a fourth grade, zoomers don't grow up, and their millennial parents are still juvenile.

  • @kellykinkade1689
    @kellykinkade1689 Před 6 lety +3

    That was not the largest assembly of Stoics in the history of the world. More importantly, Marcus Aurelius showed, by his writings and actions, the Stoic approach to insults during his campaign against the barbarians. Anyway, banishment is an indifferent thing, as are insults, so it's not worth talking this much about.
    The story of Zeno beating his slave for stealing and the slave replying, "But, I was fated to steal," and Zeno's reply, "And I was fated to beat you," illustrates that Stoicism is something much different than what many speakers advocate.

    • @67NewEngland
      @67NewEngland Před 5 lety +2

      Kelly Kinkade - I believe his "biggest assembly in the world" was a reference to Trumps inauguration crowd statement.

  • @ZenHG1
    @ZenHG1 Před 6 lety +1

    It is interesting that the word pacifism is used and that the speaker lobs insults of his own against other ideologies.
    True pacifism would take no stance and, traditionally, Stoics were not pacifists.

  • @burnsport1
    @burnsport1 Před 7 lety +4

    Hmm how ironic that his intro is full of insults

  • @alecmisra4964
    @alecmisra4964 Před 5 lety

    The solution to insults is more safe spaces, especially on campus

  • @mfossoli
    @mfossoli Před 4 lety

    What a remarkably unvirtuous talk. This man has far to go with his study. A total anti-PC diatribe.

  • @solomonkane885
    @solomonkane885 Před 7 lety +1

    Yes, it is vital that we learn to ignore insults if we are to secure a future for our race. Any White man standing up for what is good is constantly insulted, is called a "racist" "bigot" "nazi" etc. We must learn to ignore this, neither to let it intimidate is nor distract us, so that we may make White nations fully White again.

    • @burnsport1
      @burnsport1 Před 7 lety +1

      Amen. Well said and perfect comment for this video

    • @burnsport1
      @burnsport1 Před 7 lety

      That's true - he said "fully white" and I don't agree with that. But when white brits are a minority in their capital city (London) and euro countries have millions of people hostile to liberal western values streaming into their countries, you will have big problems. And there's no debate about that - the debate was settled with every Islamist attack in the past year

    • @burnsport1
      @burnsport1 Před 7 lety +2

      Laurence Long Hey man if you like it how it is all across Germany and France, enjoy it! NATO gets exactly what it deserves - input equals output. if you want millions of conservative Muslims you'll get the good with the bad - no need to be defensive about it. It is as it is.

    • @burnsport1
      @burnsport1 Před 7 lety +1

      Get to the core of the issue, strip it down like Aurelius says. What causes the world to be unstable? What's causing instability in Europe and in the middle East right now? Ideology. What causes someone to ram into a crowd in a truck and kill 80 people? Ideology. What is this ideology? Buddhism? Modern decaying Christianity? Hinduism? People are vehicles of ideology. People carry ideology. If you have those people in your country, you'll get the yummy fruits of the ideology!