The Jersey History of the Ottawa Senators

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2020
  • Okay, here is the history of jerseys worn by the Senators which includes only the Sens franchise since the early 90s.
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  • @brandynmb9890
    @brandynmb9890 Před 4 lety +86

    Sens fans, especially millennials, have been asking for the 2D logo to come back for years now

    • @brandynmb9890
      @brandynmb9890 Před 4 lety +10

      The 2d centurion, that is

    • @walkamileforyou
      @walkamileforyou Před 4 lety +4

      I will only buy/wear sens merch with the 2D centurion. If they come up with something less cringy than the logos they've been using since then, maybe I will think about it. Until then 2D or bust.

    • @KevinJL
      @KevinJL Před 4 lety +5

      Love that logo

    • @Jacob-zm1cu
      @Jacob-zm1cu Před 4 lety

      @@rocky1d i wear my black red and white jersey to games to show off a great older design and the new ones are expensive lol

    • @janoycresva1930
      @janoycresva1930 Před 4 lety +1

      We need the 4D sens back

  • @dababy8007
    @dababy8007 Před 4 lety +56

    I’m surprised they didn’t make a jersey with Melnyk’s face on it yet

  • @Wexter0083
    @Wexter0083 Před 4 lety +45

    Going to have a short rant here. The Ottawa Senators logo being a Centrian makes a lot of sense. The Canadian Senate sits in Ottawa. The concept of a senate comes from the Roman Republic, who oftentimes were members of the military or retired members of the Roman Military (aka a centurion). It's not that much of a leap in logic and I have no idea why people have a habit of picking at the Senators for using an abstract interpretation for a team logo instead of what the name literally means. We can do this with a good third of the NHL.
    Vancouver's team is called the Canucks which last time I checked did not mean a type of orca whale. A Bruin is not a B with spokes coming out of it. A blue jacket is a slang term for an American Revolutionary officer (like a Red Coat was for the English), it has nothing to do with a star and the Ohio flag. A ranger is not a shield or the Statue of Liberty and finally, a Capital is a term that has nothing to do with bald eagles, outside of it being an American symbol... See we can play this game with a lot of teams... please stop as Ottawa using a Centrian as their logo makes way more sense than a lot of logos in sports.
    Outside of that great video Shannon and I look forward to tomorrow!

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Před 4 lety +6

      blue jacket refers to the civil war and ohio’s contributions to it, not the revolutionary war

    • @Wexter0083
      @Wexter0083 Před 4 lety +1

      @@UserName-ts3sp in that case I stand corrected! A blue coat was still a slang term used though by the Brits. But, still the logo being just a star and Ohio flag really has very little to do with the term. 🤷‍♂️ Still love the name, team and imagery was just using them to prove a point.

    • @jimking2299
      @jimking2299 Před 4 lety +3

      I thought the Roman theme was lame and contrived from the start. The team was named after the historic Senators team, not the codgers on Parliament Hill and certainly not the ancient Roman guys. For that reason, I prefer the "O" logo and the horizontal striping as a nod to the real inspiration for the name. I thought the O should have been more squared-off like the Ohio State logo to avoid the obvious "zero" jokes, but I've leaned that the oval shape is what the old-time Sens wore, so I'm OK with that. Let's make the arena a no-centurians zone.

    • @Pikabo0
      @Pikabo0 Před 3 lety

      A centurion has nothing to do with Ottawa is the issue. The whale is used for the canucks because Orca’s are common around Vancouver. The Capitals use the eagle because it’s the national animal, it’s like the Sens using symbols of the federal government. What does the Centurion have to do with the city of Ottawa?

    • @Wexter0083
      @Wexter0083 Před 3 lety

      @@Pikabo0 clearly you did not read the comment... My point was logos are extrapolations of the name and are not literal as half the league's logos are not literal... and I guess also by your logic a lot of teams names and logos are bad? Did you know Penguins are not found in Pittsburgh either? Or how there are no gold clad knights in Vegas? Last time I checked armoured knights stopped being a thing before Vegas was even founded... And while New Jersey is not a pleasant place to live there are not literal devils in New Jersey.

  • @miguelitomarques8
    @miguelitomarques8 Před 4 lety +10

    As a Sens fan I gotta say... I actually find the current jerseys just fine.
    Specially the black on the sleeves.

  • @TwoNNsB
    @TwoNNsB Před 4 lety +7

    I am so excited for what the future holds for this team

  • @johnathankorkie4984
    @johnathankorkie4984 Před 4 lety +26

    Hot take Ottawa's current look is one of the best in the nhl. I know I'm in the minority but I love the colors and logo

    • @Wexter0083
      @Wexter0083 Před 3 lety +2

      I do get nostalgic over that look just a year out. Out of all the Reebok Edge era jerseys Ottawa's was one of the best. Just so happened that Tampa and Pittsburgh used similar templates which kinda made Ottawa's less unique... but you can see the jersey itself is inspired by Ottawa's 2007 home jersey with the arm stripes and you can even see prototypes where the toga stripe was attempted to be incorporated into the jersey. This is probably why it looked the best in Ottawa's colours and design compared to Tampa which came off as a mess and Pittsburgh's which was kinda bland. The bold red and black with the dash of white really made it pop on the ice. It's not a traditional hockey jersey, and while breaking tradition did not work for a lot of clubs Ottawa's 2007-2020 home and away looked sharp!
      It is a very underrated set and will probably come back for a Heritage Classic within the next 20 years. But, I do expect the toga jersey to comeback in some way first. It is a forgone conclusion a version of the =O= jersey to comeback as the alternate or Heritage Uniform next year... maybe a red version of the Heritage Jersey (not the Silver =O=, but a red version of the old black jersey). That style of jersey was a very popular jersey in Ottawa and nationally, I mean when Rihanna wears your gear you know you made something stylish.

  • @djentleman7
    @djentleman7 Před rokem +1

    The Scooby-Doo eyes jersey, and nashville's sleep deprived/drugged sabertooth jersey always make me smile and chuckle no matter what kind of day I had. I love them for that

  • @drivethru6155
    @drivethru6155 Před 4 lety +2

    Love the big O, it's simple but if you are familiar with the history of hockey in Ottawa and have seen the photos of the old teams, the Reebok heritage jerseys (the NHL100 Classic version is not as nice) are beautiful. History has a certain weight and allure to it, people do not question the equally simple looks of Montreal or Toronto, because there is such a familiarity and love built up for those teams over the past 100 years. I do like the current jersey as well, but when I look at the O jersey it just looks like a genuine, timeless hockey jersey where the current jersey doesn't.

  • @KHoltzie
    @KHoltzie Před 4 lety +2

    I’ve also always liked the one at 1:23, I wouldn’t mind a re-branding of that logo and look but I’d also make up a red one (for home games) to match it...and possibly bring back the black as an alternate at a later date
    To me that logo seems to best exemplify the look and team name of the Ottawa Senators, you’ve got the big ‘O’ for Ottawa (which should really stand out anyway being their home city) decorated with the helmet senator soldier and then the name ‘OTTAWA SENATORS’ adorning the otter half circle...I mean that logo and design were creative lightning in a bottle if you ask me a fresh clean and creative look!

  • @ThePolerbearproducts
    @ThePolerbearproducts Před 4 lety +6

    The “Scooby Doo Eyes” are nightmare fuel to me. Lol

  • @scawfan75
    @scawfan75 Před 4 lety +3

    I miss the old number font from the Sens Reebok jerseys.

  • @Digitalkeys_
    @Digitalkeys_ Před 4 lety +3

    I seen one jersey of the parliament logo as the primary. I’m in love with it. As a sens fan I’d love if we rebranded to that and maybe kept the o as a alternate jersey

  • @f.n04
    @f.n04 Před 4 lety +3

    That SENS alternate one was GREAT so underrated haha

    • @Wexter0083
      @Wexter0083 Před 3 lety +1

      When you see it in person it is such a fun jersey! Super busy though!

  • @ricktacular6316
    @ricktacular6316 Před 4 lety +14

    The current sens jersey looks sharp in person. A lot of people say it's ugly but I like it, except the O jerseys, it looks like a zero to me and it feels like they are insulting them self. But that's just me. Go sens Go

  • @jamiephelps875
    @jamiephelps875 Před 4 lety

    I love these videos. Thank you for this content.

  • @chrisfortin984
    @chrisfortin984 Před 4 lety +1

    I still have Yashin's rookie jersey, and that logo was the best look..by a mile..the black jersey with the 2d logo.

  • @therealdarrell282
    @therealdarrell282 Před rokem

    The Ottawa jersey with O are the best ones. Great job on the video.

  • @Aidan_minotti
    @Aidan_minotti Před 6 měsíci

    The jersey Before this new one is sick, I got one for Christmas in 2022 and love it so much

  • @imaratspal
    @imaratspal Před 4 lety +4

    I prefer the old centurion look from the Yashin era

  • @DARK24-7
    @DARK24-7 Před 4 lety +2

    The original Sens was my first jersey!

  • @tudormiller887
    @tudormiller887 Před 9 měsíci

    I'm a,newbie to the NHL and a newbie Senators fan watching in the UK. ❤

  • @brandonburton6228
    @brandonburton6228 Před 4 lety +1

    I love your humour u make me laugh all the time

  • @jameslisle7775
    @jameslisle7775 Před 4 lety +1

    I love the current Senators logo!

  • @CGibs33
    @CGibs33 Před 4 lety

    Good video. Love the Sens content. My favourite is the “O” but Melnyk has made it pretty clear that he isn’t a fan of it. I think we can kiss the dream of it becoming the prominent logo goodbye.

  • @j.nicolosi6647
    @j.nicolosi6647 Před 4 lety

    The Senators are here! That means Philly tomorrow! I am not necessarily a Flyers fan but MAN do I love their jerseys/logo. So very excited. The next four are amazing: Philly, Pitt, SJ, St Louis. Phenomenal jerseys

  • @coltondzuba87
    @coltondzuba87 Před 4 lety

    @3:08 is the best. I just bought a koho and its BEAUTIFUL

  • @rwa2play
    @rwa2play Před 4 lety

    The only change I would make with the black alternate with the gold leaf would be bringing back the original Sens logo but without the name spelled out.

  • @NochiMani6004
    @NochiMani6004 Před 2 lety

    Man Ottawa has those jerseys now i wish the 2019-20 logo was back...

  • @simonmarshall19
    @simonmarshall19 Před 4 lety +1

    I saw the sens in 2014 at the Heritage Game in 2014 !

  • @tristantoledo6866
    @tristantoledo6866 Před 4 lety +2

    We need the 2D logo back modernized

  • @KHoltzie
    @KHoltzie Před 4 lety +1

    I wouldn’t mind seeing the big ‘O’ motif re-branded but they’d definitely need to modify the logo a bit to make it look tougher and more Ottawa-like!
    To me that just looks too plain too lettered, they’re the Ottawa Senators NOT the Ottawa O’s...let’s get into branding a new Canadian sports cereal later! 🇨🇦 🥣

  • @kaynebartholomew2994
    @kaynebartholomew2994 Před 4 lety +2

    It’s a conspiracy to keep the Sens in the news! First their charity leaves them now a jersey video??? All kidding aside, it’s a bit ironic that them landing on top of the news board coincided with their jersey video. Keep us your great work as always!

  • @AceMatthew25414
    @AceMatthew25414 Před 4 lety

    If Ottawa goes back to the Jersey you suggested it would be a nice homage to the teams Stanely Cups 😉😅

  • @BrettHornby
    @BrettHornby Před 4 lety

    Torn between the original and the current as the best. The rebrand if it happens probably will be the O with the stripes.

  • @tifpo33
    @tifpo33 Před 4 lety +2

    My favourite is the 'O' Jersey with the sliver strip (current alternate), which I hope they shift to in a couple of years. I liked the original logo and hate the "scooby-doo" one.
    I disagree with the Vancouver Millionaires argument as their Stanley Cup win was under the Challenge system and was before the current NHL formed , whereas the Ottawa Senators are the first NHL-era Stanley Cup Champions. The current Ottawa Senators Franchise may not be a direct continuation of the original, but then no NHL franchise is. I don't see why the first NHL stanley cup win can't be claimed in spirit - just leave it out of the stats book.
    The only other NHL-era Stanley Cup win that isn't associated with a current franchise is from the Montreal Maroons (another team that didn't make it out of the Great Depression).

  • @brandonb.6099
    @brandonb.6099 Před 4 lety

    The secoond black senators jersey wth the white stripe added to it is my favorite senators jersey.

  • @mdwm1981
    @mdwm1981 Před 4 lety

    deep cut. the roughriders have been gone for years. And yes, I think they like those colors, the CFL team is called the Redblacks

    • @skiptracer2988
      @skiptracer2988 Před 4 lety

      Red, white and black are the official colours of Canada, so it makes sense.for the capital city teams to use them.

  • @Ryan-0413
    @Ryan-0413 Před 4 lety

    That black jersey with the white and red stripes is pretty sharp, the white version of it is pretty good too

  • @Jacob-zm1cu
    @Jacob-zm1cu Před 4 lety

    i love the sens but i like the Reebok much better than the adidas. the striping and the font on the jerseys is just much nicer

  • @KHoltzie
    @KHoltzie Před 4 lety

    2:46...now that’s a sharp logo and look especially with the gold leafing pattern, wearing RED at home will always be iconically preferred with me!
    I think the Sens should re-brand somethin’ along those lines three jerseys using Red/White/Black
    Red (HOME) White (ROAD) Black (3RD)

  • @daviddargartz9120
    @daviddargartz9120 Před 4 lety

    I don't want to say you "skipped" the set of jerseys that were introduced for 2007/2008, because that's technically the same design they use today. However, I did want to say that I think the font change between those and the current set makes a huge difference. Are you a bigger fan of the previous rounded font or the current block font? I personally like the rounded font better. The block font, to me, throws it all off and I've yet to get used to it. (Disclosure/context: I have been a Senators fan since probably around about 2003.)
    Thank you for all the hard work you do making all of this content every day! It really helps fill the void in this truncated season.

  • @youngo1
    @youngo1 Před 4 lety

    I agree with what you said in your live stream where the sens should present their new look at the draft. Lafreniere first to put it on

  • @KrisVic91
    @KrisVic91 Před 3 lety

    Is their rumours theyre going back to the vintage O jerseys? I really like that look, it just looks like a proper sharp hockey jersey to me.

  • @danyheatleyall-star3677

    I’m pretty sure a rebrands coming soon after the team starts to get better

  • @gludiousmaximus7918
    @gludiousmaximus7918 Před 4 lety

    bring back the original centurion. one of the best jerseys ever made.

  • @PancakesAndHammers2426

    Favorite has got to be the black jersey with the black O.

  • @ll7868
    @ll7868 Před 4 lety

    So jealous of Shannon's collection. I only have 3 NHL jerseys, 2 Canucks, 1993/94 #1 (McLean) & 2008/09 #22 (D. Sedin) and a Jets 2016/17 #26 (Wheeler), the McLean jersey is so worn out I don't wear it anymore.

  • @Glensrep
    @Glensrep Před 4 lety

    I really want to have either the red or black O jersey to be the home while the other becomes the alternate. And then the cream O jersey becomes the away. As a sens fan I would be completely on board with doing that. Although I don’t mind our current jerseys

  • @alesd2120
    @alesd2120 Před 4 lety +1

    I like the "O" jerseys best, they could make the letter in a cursive/calligraphy style, just to avoid the zero-jokes

  • @AceMatthew25414
    @AceMatthew25414 Před 4 lety

    I was literally typing the Canucks, Millionaires thing 😂

  • @OhHiiMarc
    @OhHiiMarc Před 4 lety

    Here from the year 2022 to announce that the Eugene Melnyk jerseys look pretty slick

  • @retep5268
    @retep5268 Před 4 lety

    Am I the only one who laughed at what he said at 4:17?? Hahaha

  • @AceMatthew25414
    @AceMatthew25414 Před 4 lety

    9:15 my favourite Sens Jersey ever in my opinion

  • @danhobbs9831
    @danhobbs9831 Před 4 lety

    Weren’t they supposed to come out with a rebrand when the draft happened? That’s what was on reddit at least and a lot of rumors pointed to the old 2D logo

  • @doggosplosion
    @doggosplosion Před 4 lety +1

    Yes but do you have a "Saint Louis Eagles" jersey?

  • @matthiasb2078
    @matthiasb2078 Před 4 lety +2

    Our current jerseys are decent, but we are long overdue for a different look

  • @youngcarlos123
    @youngcarlos123 Před 4 lety

    Do a lightning jersey video next 🌩

  • @philipglover3295
    @philipglover3295 Před 4 lety +1

    Don’t know why but I’ve always liked the Senators jerseys

  • @stephentruman382
    @stephentruman382 Před 4 lety

    Their best look is the heratige 3rd. I like the 3d logo. I would love to see the 3d logo on their original black jersey with parliament on the shoulders.

  • @filipnassen9076
    @filipnassen9076 Před 4 lety +5

    I really like current the Senators jerseys.

  • @adriansims1596
    @adriansims1596 Před 4 lety

    @1:48 the best looking Ottawa jersey.

  • @jimking2299
    @jimking2299 Před 4 lety

    Rebuilding forever? They were one OT goal away from the Cup finals three years ago and didn't start their salary-dumping "rebuild" until halfway through the next season. The rebuild is far from over, but it hasn't been all that long so far compared to most.

  • @wintertundra8518
    @wintertundra8518 Před 4 lety

    I love that original Red\Black and White jersey. How do you avoid the fake ones though?

  • @ecogeek13
    @ecogeek13 Před 4 lety

    The Sens logo does well monochrome because it matches the team's play

  • @roanlaplante
    @roanlaplante Před 4 lety

    Introducing the Ottawaaaaaaaaa Cheeeeeeeerrioosssssssss

  • @Pistol1783
    @Pistol1783 Před 4 lety

    Thar she blows! @ 6:35 the heritage classic jersey and the Rihanna O jersey. I’ve been trying to tell THG for like a year & a half that I found the heritage classic jersey from van city sports. But either way he got it so all good 👍

  • @elwizschold
    @elwizschold Před 4 lety

    If they land two of the top 5 picks this year (which they very well can) - I'm guessing the rebrand comes sooner rather than later

  • @macjonesisthebest3635
    @macjonesisthebest3635 Před 4 lety

    I know Vegas is going to take so long

  • @DanAuns
    @DanAuns Před 4 měsíci

    You haven't shown the complete set of early jerseys. The first gen whites and blacks, had laurels in the logo (Not the text 'Ottawa Senators' as you show).

  • @deepvoicegames5024
    @deepvoicegames5024 Před 4 lety

    i'm sure the eyes moved when you held up the jersey. lol

  • @andys1548
    @andys1548 Před 4 lety

    I'm a Sens fan and I don't like the current font for these jerseys. The Reebok ones were much nicer

  • @bigjohn08865
    @bigjohn08865 Před 2 lety

    The Centurion logo is at least unique as opposed to a letter 'O'.

  • @Brosc
    @Brosc Před 4 lety +4

    First, sens fan

  • @cvsantana74
    @cvsantana74 Před 4 lety +1

    i wonder if the Ottawa Cheerios taste good

  • @Nickleblanc41
    @Nickleblanc41 Před 4 lety +1

    If we can call 5 expansion teams ''original teams'' we can make both Senators and Jets franchise the same.

  • @kranibal
    @kranibal Před 4 lety

    gO Sens gO!!!

  • @OTTprohkey1904
    @OTTprohkey1904 Před 4 lety +1

    you sell the Senators jersey 1:49

  • @TheEvolvedMind
    @TheEvolvedMind Před 4 lety

    They really need to go back to and embrace the 'O' logo when they rebrand. The black one is my personal favorite.

  • @andrewburney8075
    @andrewburney8075 Před 4 lety +1

    Nope, do not want the "O" as our main logo, it's good on a third or heritage jersey but is way to bland for a main logo. An updated version of the original logo would be my preference.

  • @pickleballer1986
    @pickleballer1986 Před 4 lety

    cat running at 5:12

  • @mcdaviddeservesbetter8

    I really hope they nail the rebrand. The “O” one is probably their best look ever, but it’s not particularly amazing.

  • @Simon-tc1mc
    @Simon-tc1mc Před 4 lety +1

    I know Ottawa's jerseys get a lot of hate but I actually like them. The only part I don't like is the armpit strip, but if they redid the striping it would look fine. Yeah, their logo isn't amazing but it's better than the O. The O was a temporarily cool look in the early 2010s I feel like, but it doesn't have lasting power. Having your whole logo just be a letter just seems weak and generic, and makes you look like a college team.
    Keep the logo, change the stripes.

  • @FalseCredential
    @FalseCredential Před 4 lety

    What if they do the "O" but with the laurel wreath in it?

  • @robert48044
    @robert48044 Před 4 lety +2

    Sup Yall

  • @icerider50
    @icerider50 Před 4 lety

    I like the logo. Wonder why never a gold 3rd jersey? Probably cuz it would be hideous

  • @kosmicwizard
    @kosmicwizard Před 4 lety

    Can't wait til they change to the O logo, very monochromatic. Pretty hard to make Zero jokes with their top 5, as soon as next year. This draft is going to be a win!

  • @martinkealey03
    @martinkealey03 Před 4 lety

    shannon could redesign all 31(32?) nhl teams with Yvonnes help

  • @metcalfeshooter7118
    @metcalfeshooter7118 Před 4 lety

    I honestly don't see us doing anything other than a 2D throwback or going back to the =O=.

    • @Worldpeacekid
      @Worldpeacekid Před 4 lety

      I'd *_love_* for them to go to an updated 2D logo on a version of the alternate with the laurel stripes with the Peace Tower as the secondary. Then you can use the =O= as a third and maybe bring out a white version as a fourth if that whole idea goes forward.
      Keeps the =O= look around for those that want it, but I don't think them essentially cosplaying as that franchise is a wise move. They're not the Silver Seven, they shouldn't try to look like them as the primary look.

  • @zachmontminy
    @zachmontminy Před 4 lety

    Big fan of their previous jerseys specifically because the number design was unique. Now it's generic and ruined.

  • @devin5445
    @devin5445 Před 4 lety

    i thank the sens for zibanejad

  • @rohinkartik-narayan7535

    Now if they could just do the third jersey as their primaries...

  • @LivingWithSpinaBifida
    @LivingWithSpinaBifida Před 4 lety

    The current senators jerseys look like they were made for a minor hockey team that are trying to be the big team but failed miserably. The numbers on the back look gross as well.

  • @KevinJL
    @KevinJL Před 4 lety

    I love the first white home jersey so much.
    Here is a nice history of Ottawa's return to the NHL
    czcams.com/video/iCotaIrAvnQ/video.html

  • @Nickleblanc41
    @Nickleblanc41 Před 4 lety

    I think the red ''O'' stays has the main jersey and they keep the black one as an alternate.

    • @dannyl-p1543
      @dannyl-p1543 Před 4 lety

      and switch the beige with white for the away jersey. To me the O has an iconic look like Montreal, Toronto and Boston have

  • @REDKRAKEN18
    @REDKRAKEN18 Před 4 lety

    HERE COMES THE OTTAWA ZERO STANLEY CUPS

  • @CheapSeatsSports
    @CheapSeatsSports Před 4 lety

    I know it's a theme with Ottawa, but I just find red and black to be incredibly boring. Especially in the NHL where so many teams use it... I really hope Seattle doesn't.

    • @Wexter0083
      @Wexter0083 Před 3 lety

      The original Ottawa Senators were one of the first teams (and the first team in the NHL) in hockey to use Red, White and Black which is where the current team took the colours from. It is why Chicago could not use that colour scheme when they first entered the league and used black and white. They only added red when Ottawa left the league in 1934. Also, I think only four teams in the NHL use that colour combo (OTT, NJ, CHI, CAR) as Arizona uses Burgandy not red proper (and seem to be using Burgandy, Black, Cream and Green moving forward) so out of 32 teams, only four using it is not that common ;)
      Enjoy this obscure hockey fact.

  • @dababy8007
    @dababy8007 Před 4 lety +2

    It’s only been 3 years of the Sens rebuild

  • @Steve-xf4uv
    @Steve-xf4uv Před 4 měsíci

    Been a SENS fan since the start in 1991-92; boy I sure hope they don't go with that ugly ``O`` sweater (Tom Anslmi's re-brand). I respect your taste but don't agree with ANY of it. And I bought a Karlsson sweater for 50.00 too after he left. Cheers, Shannon.

  • @hugh2hoob668
    @hugh2hoob668 Před 4 lety

    They better look good cause they have nothing else lol

  • @leandroramos3041
    @leandroramos3041 Před 4 lety +15

    I must be the only person that hates the "Big O" look

    • @1bert719
      @1bert719 Před 4 lety +1

      Your not alone. Its bland.

    • @leftywith4strings201
      @leftywith4strings201 Před 4 lety +1

      Leandro Ramos yeah, I like it as a shoulder patch or alternate, but I pray they don’t use it as the main logo. Again, it’s just so bland. Using just a letter with nothing else would suck.

    • @jacked6
      @jacked6 Před 4 lety +2

      It is terrible. You aren't alone.

    • @LivingWithSpinaBifida
      @LivingWithSpinaBifida Před 4 lety +1

      Im not a fan of it either