BURGUNDY is the most POWERFUL NATION in EU4.

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  • čas přidán 10. 03. 2022
  • Today we revisit EU4 and Burgundy! Forming Lotharingia as Burgundy in EU4 is a great time. I have previously been bullied by AI burgundy, but today we adopt Lothar's mantle and attempt to do it ourselves. Definitely one of the most fun nations in EU4, there's a tonne of flavor here with an awesome mission tree! EU4 1.33 has done nothing to slow down the big red giant of EU4.
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Komentáře • 170

  • @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658

    Burgandy from one of Europe's strongest nations to just French vineyards. A succession crisis is such a cruel fate.

    • @frostyguy1989
      @frostyguy1989 Před 2 lety +30

      Don't forget the mustard.

    • @RailwayPenguin
      @RailwayPenguin Před 2 lety +9

      @@frostyguy1989 Well, apart form the succession crisis there were also the Burgundian wars

    • @goranpersson7726
      @goranpersson7726 Před rokem +5

      burgundy wasnt a nation, nations werent really a thing back then. and technically it was still a part of the french kingdom back then, just large enough with too many other holdings for the king to exert much influence in the duchy

    • @gaffgarion7049
      @gaffgarion7049 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@goranpersson7726Nations were a thing, the nation state is what wasn't a solidified concept.

    • @goranpersson7726
      @goranpersson7726 Před 4 měsíci

      @@gaffgarion7049 yes and no. there are instances of the word being used but the meaning is something that isnt exactly ever explained I.E we can see instances of our modern interpretation of the word and we can see people of the time using the word but what they meant when using it is not really known and the times we can see it being applicable are for much smaller areas and groups than in modern times, like much much smaller. more so for like "that city and it's surrounding villages" it's also not really much of a case of kinship because we're all german or such, many a case where a foreign lord was prefered over a local one and a sense of kinship between different people rarely extended much more than for your local village. england is a pretty rare example of an early sense of kinship and nationality in that they got a sense of unity specifically during the viking invasions

  • @hizac8492
    @hizac8492 Před 2 lety +323

    I'm not going to lie, I clicked on this video rooting for AI Montferrat to overshadow you playing Burgundy

  • @matthewhannigan1916
    @matthewhannigan1916 Před 2 lety +147

    I recently played as burgundy and a strange thing happened during the succession crisis: I had Marie as an heir but she died before my king. Luckily, I got a new heir with even better stats, but when my king kicked the bucket, Marie came back from the dead (with original stats) to rule the (soon to be) kingdom of Lothaire.
    I kinda feel bad for the second heir

    • @yoruichixx6951
      @yoruichixx6951 Před 2 lety +25

      you know....divine right to rule

    • @noxgabriel5987
      @noxgabriel5987 Před 6 měsíci

      marie died for me in a game was playing yesterday and then came back after the succession as queen lmao. the heir that replaced her just stayed as the heir

  • @alexbattaglia8297
    @alexbattaglia8297 Před 2 lety +242

    I have a suggestion, you should play as the Jaddari in the EU4 mod Anbennar, it combines your favourite parts of EU4, mass expansion, mass expansion, and finally mass expansion, (topped with some great military ideas and full cav elves)

  • @krecior__
    @krecior__ Před 2 lety +61

    5:27 He got the rarest event in the game, which gives him free PU over a neighbour, and took 10 legitimacy instead

  • @marca8844
    @marca8844 Před 2 lety +67

    Did you get any PTSD of AI Lotharingia bullying you?

    • @edim108
      @edim108 Před 2 lety +3

      Wouldn't you? He became the supporting character in his own series 😂

  • @sizanogreen9900
    @sizanogreen9900 Před 2 lety +47

    *East Frisia* is actually really nice, especially the islands. We used to go there on holidays when I was a kid. I can recommend Norderney or Borkum.
    So the whole thing in the video actually made perfect sense, who knew the AI had this amount of taste.

  • @Designer-Speech7143
    @Designer-Speech7143 Před 2 lety +16

    Laith sees Poland didn't go for Lithuania: What good are you then?
    Poland: * Unleash the hussars! *

  • @thechosendino206
    @thechosendino206 Před 2 lety +8

    I played burgundy into Lothringia after the Montferrat video and I can confirm, it's a lot of fun. Quite a unique start.

  • @seanlivesley5424
    @seanlivesley5424 Před 2 lety +6

    10:19 Ah yes, Serbia, Serbia and Serbia.

  • @tromedlovdrolmai
    @tromedlovdrolmai Před rokem +3

    I've been playing my own Burgundy game recently, and decided to come back and watch this again. In my game, I got incredibly lucky in that A) England didn't actually rival and France did, so I allied England and Austria, and B) before a month had even ticked by, I got the hunting accident event and lost Charles as an heir, so I never actually got the Burgundian Succession. Because I attacked Provence while the Hundred Years war was going on, and I was allied to the Pope and called them in with favors, I ultimately caused the 100 years war to end in a stalemate, as my subjects liberated Normandy for England while I took Paris, and the French decided that instead of liberating their capital, the smart thing to do was go to Italy with their army and "teach the Pope a lesson". Ultimately, forcing a Stalemate in the 100 years war worked great for me because I got even luckier and had the English Lancaster die with no heir, and my dynasty get the throne, and then I inherited England

  • @sergodobro2569
    @sergodobro2569 Před 2 lety +5

    Video starts:
    Me getting funny flashbacks from those Lotharingia videos

  • @_crazyscientist97
    @_crazyscientist97 Před 2 lety +2

    Burgundy... Burgund... NO! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 Před 2 lety +6

    It's nice to see Paradox actually updating Burgundy. Now only if they could also do this to another major European power like Lithuania

  • @maximdrager3639
    @maximdrager3639 Před 2 lety +8

    I think imma play Burgundy and try to make a colonial nation.
    Messing with cultures to mimicking the HRE and France. Like the Swamps of Virginia being Dutch, and the highlands etc etc

  • @michaeltomasicchio6895
    @michaeltomasicchio6895 Před 2 lety +4

    I'd love to see you continue this and try to finish off Burgundy's mission tree.

  • @retrowave69
    @retrowave69 Před 2 lety +12

    already played burgundy and formed Lothringia in an MP game. sadly I didn't get to do it quite as quickly as I wanted and I wasn't very strong due to probably self incompetence. Didn't go very far past that because the group got bored of the save file.

    • @lukabaklacioglu1946
      @lukabaklacioglu1946 Před 3 měsíci

      i did my first burgundy into lothringia run. Gotten austria and brandenburg as PU

  • @mcalkis5771
    @mcalkis5771 Před 2 lety +2

    Getting you guys to Ulm is a full time job. Watching all the uploads!

  • @ryanmalone4464
    @ryanmalone4464 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your videos. One of the only channels where I watch every upload

  • @zuludude2
    @zuludude2 Před 2 lety +4

    I'd love to see more multi-streamer games, seeing someone trying to deal with a mess you've made would be great.

  • @alexmorrison3442
    @alexmorrison3442 Před 2 lety

    The hair cut is looking great Laith! And, even though I ignored the lower half of your face, it looks great too!

  • @sorayawaller2041
    @sorayawaller2041 Před 2 lety +37

    hey just thought I'd mention, in response to you correcting "iranian" to "persian," that iranian actually would be perfectly correct in this time period, with iran being the endonym for the region for thousands or years, and persia mostly just being an exonym :)

  • @Qureas
    @Qureas Před 2 lety +1

    TheSocialStreamers: I have THIS goal and I WILL do it!
    "golden opportunity appears"
    TheSocialStreamers: Ooooh shiny!

  • @denissfedorkovs5946
    @denissfedorkovs5946 Před 2 lety +3

    Don't shave, become Laith the Bearded and conquer HRE as Tunis

  • @Akrafena
    @Akrafena Před 2 lety +1

    There is no hope under the ordenstaat…
    There is no hope under the ordenstaat…
    There is no hope under the ordenstaat…

  • @bigmanted9864
    @bigmanted9864 Před měsícem

    Burgundy in EU4: 😀😀😀😀
    Burgundy in Hoi4 (especially TNO): ☠☠☠☠☠☠⚡⚡

  • @hoyinching9313
    @hoyinching9313 Před 2 lety

    Yes, this video helps me a lot to play Burgundy in this new patch

  • @joemycoal8190
    @joemycoal8190 Před 2 lety +6

    Are we just going to ignore the fact Leif casually took espionage ideas?

  • @shawnb1649
    @shawnb1649 Před 2 lety +2

    Seize northern province from Nevers, release Champagne as a vassal, now you've got strong duchies right off.

  • @xzardas541
    @xzardas541 Před 2 lety +3

    Burgundy is easly my favorite, you have 2 permament buffs from missions and easly can become Emperor of HRE
    Can form france to get 3 more buffs from missions
    Maybe form sardinia-piedmont
    Then convert to orthodox form byzantium to get pentarchy and troll the pope.
    Or form lotharyngia and be boring like that

    • @trevor8726
      @trevor8726 Před rokem

      can form netherlands after taking over the entire french region

  • @ousamadearu5960
    @ousamadearu5960 Před 2 lety +1

    Looks like you got that Post Burgundy Disorder

  • @craig5322
    @craig5322 Před rokem

    "It's a waiting game, and I don't intend to lose." I'm going to have to use that one sometime

  • @ohNojames
    @ohNojames Před rokem

    I really struggle with the French war and staying up on tech, and in the positive on cash, keeping all of the French vassals in line. It’s so much fun.

  • @tacticalnoobtoob3774
    @tacticalnoobtoob3774 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey it’s RedCxy from twitch. I’m on vacation Rn and I can’t play eu4 and my favorite country is burgundy. Thank you my brother you are a blessing

  • @InTenZeGamingHD
    @InTenZeGamingHD Před 2 lety +1

    Burgundy is one of the strongest due to its rich land, around 1600 everyone starts getting really good national ideas and Burgundy starts to suffer. You have to use subjects to expand after that.

  • @Shadap7
    @Shadap7 Před 2 lety

    Super engaging content :D

  • @raptorcell6633
    @raptorcell6633 Před rokem

    There's a little voice in the back of everyone's mind that says "screw what's practically, only care about what's funny and this, this is funny"

  • @user-kb2if1cg7s
    @user-kb2if1cg7s Před 2 lety +3

    I bet that Montferrat gets super op

  • @ZantineVonKauffen
    @ZantineVonKauffen Před 2 lety

    I have waited for this video ever since the AI Burgundy formed Lotharingia during the Montferrat campaign and bullied literally everyone

  • @casssaph2287
    @casssaph2287 Před 2 lety +1

    if you seize rethelois from nevers you can release champagne for a sexy reconquest on france.
    i think i got those right
    but yea

    • @casssaph2287
      @casssaph2287 Před 2 lety

      bruh did you seriously fuck up the thing where you get france's vassals too??
      also btw i think you get a lot of crazy PU opportunities or something if you're denied the imperial entrance

    • @ParagonCS
      @ParagonCS Před 2 lety

      @@casssaph2287 yea he didn't do everything right but that's what's fun with laith i think. He just does his own stuff and i think it's fun

    • @casssaph2287
      @casssaph2287 Před 2 lety

      @@ParagonCS fair!
      im too much of a whore for minmaxing ngl and i think it impedes my enjoyment of things

  • @leaflotus6726
    @leaflotus6726 Před 2 lety

    I shouldn't world conquest, 15 episodes later, and that concludes our wq one faith vessel swarm game.

  • @krassendimitrov9747
    @krassendimitrov9747 Před 2 lety +2

    As a Bulgarian i approve 12:19 :D

  • @Leones_Ordo
    @Leones_Ordo Před 2 lety

    I was once almost got a game over until i remember just having spynetwork on other tag give you buff against them

  • @daspotato895
    @daspotato895 Před 2 lety +1

    50 seconds, that's pretty quick.

  • @connortheandroidsentbycybe7740

    The only vote that matters for the outcome of imperial incidents is the emperors

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před 2 lety +1

    you could war savoy and then release monserrat as a vassal... which is what you was in the monserrat playthru

  • @morsta99
    @morsta99 Před 2 lety +3

    You said to destroy lothairingia, not play it!

  • @danblackham3911
    @danblackham3911 Před 2 lety

    great video

  • @avnigoktan3936
    @avnigoktan3936 Před 2 lety

    The thumbnail looks like the unofficial patch of Bulgaria

  • @oznelnavnaekal6679
    @oznelnavnaekal6679 Před 2 lety +1

    When I hear the word 'Burgundy' these days, the first things that sadly enough come up at first are things like black suns, nukes and lullabies. Yeah, thanks a lot TNO 😑

    • @oznelnavnaekal6679
      @oznelnavnaekal6679 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Dfoskdty Because it doesn't give me a vision anymore of a NORMAL Burgundy.

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss Před 2 lety

    Continue this series

  • @lazarobarrios8907
    @lazarobarrios8907 Před 2 lety +1

    can we talk about the 5 forts all right next to each other

  • @overlord3083
    @overlord3083 Před 2 lety

    You are alive after NK vid? Thats a surprise

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před 2 lety +1

    would be funny if you purposefully got Monserrat as an ally in this playthru and fed them loads of provinces to have a strong ally and then they bullied you again in this one

  • @TheJonnyjoh
    @TheJonnyjoh Před 2 lety

    How 'bout playing as Khmer next? They have a lot of flavour and events, their very own starting crisis, really well rounded ideas and a nice mission tree that takes you all over Indochina, Burma, Malaya and China AND I never see them succeed against Ayutthaya/Siam. I'd have suggested Dai Viet as another alternative because they have the odds stacked against them because they're the only Mahayana Nation (Pahang doesn't count) in a sea of Theravada Nations and they also have their own flavour events in regards to China, Confucianism and their own succession crisis.

  • @leongoring6063
    @leongoring6063 Před rokem

    Your always Welcome in East-Frisia!

  • @mickstir8178
    @mickstir8178 Před 2 lety

    This is one of the most based games I've watched you play. Excellent.

  • @dailyhypothesies3477
    @dailyhypothesies3477 Před 2 lety

    Had no idea they could form that country

  • @charliedamarell9722
    @charliedamarell9722 Před 2 lety

    Low key shit the bed when Tom said my name in Patreon thing I’ll be real, wasn’t paying attention to my phone

  • @gabri-immortale
    @gabri-immortale Před 2 lety

    Hey social , where is the holland Co op ring?

  • @thiagoangelgonzalez4890

    "If you can't defeat them,join them"

  • @Claytonrullman
    @Claytonrullman Před 2 lety

    My start is way different I like to how other people play burgundy.

  • @TzarAugustus
    @TzarAugustus Před 2 lety

    your haircut looks good bud

  • @AnrandomdudeontheInternet
    @AnrandomdudeontheInternet Před 4 měsíci

    Is this a. a this is a tn.. Is. Is. Tnot. this a mothe... a moth is
    Is
    Is this a
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    IS THIS A MOTHERFUCKING TNO REFERENCE?????

  • @MyTomServo
    @MyTomServo Před 2 lety

    "Easily one of the most"

  • @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025

    I Bet This Gives You Vietnam Flashbacks

  • @makaramuss
    @makaramuss Před 2 lety

    in the mean time he became pope and did not choose any buff for christians
    entire catholism:PICK SOMETING!!!!!

  • @jkud9758
    @jkud9758 Před 2 lety

    bro who is not subscribed we need that ulm trip

  • @akiamini4006
    @akiamini4006 Před 2 lety

    Amazing

  • @the_niss
    @the_niss Před 2 lety

    The new born beard suits you. Maybe grow it to a nice 3 day beard?

  • @alexmorrison3442
    @alexmorrison3442 Před 2 lety

    Lmao, Laith is playing as Lothringia. The irony is painful.

  • @herowesley1804
    @herowesley1804 Před 2 lety

    Ahhh best part of the day

  • @NobleMotiv7349
    @NobleMotiv7349 Před 2 lety

    me: *Looks at title*
    *sees Christian IV in the thumbnail*
    me: ...what?

  • @kronosbach5263
    @kronosbach5263 Před 2 lety

    I enjoy Socialstreamers

  • @NuggetGal
    @NuggetGal Před 2 měsíci

    burgndy my beloved

  • @edemortoth7974
    @edemortoth7974 Před 2 lety

    Finally the facecam is back!

  • @neumo5005
    @neumo5005 Před 2 lety

    Wow laith i didn’t know you were an ai

  • @tradracemixer3237
    @tradracemixer3237 Před 2 lety

    I dont wanna be that guy but how did you read it as "Legend" when it says League

  • @cesaralarcon5228
    @cesaralarcon5228 Před 2 lety

    Heh me declaring on Utrecht to get Aachen to join and then just taking it

  • @ivan5595
    @ivan5595 Před 6 měsíci

    It's also the most powerful nation in TNO

  • @juliandezeeuw4404
    @juliandezeeuw4404 Před 2 lety

    90K subs. Where list?

  • @barituned
    @barituned Před 2 lety +1

    MURDER SAVOY IN REVENGE!

  • @batughanuzun
    @batughanuzun Před 2 lety

    Aachen, the city of trolls. I am right there, at the moment

  • @MrPugdy
    @MrPugdy Před 2 lety

    In my game the decision to make lotharingia doesn't exist. What version do I need? I have all most recent expansions

    • @Lebensscherben
      @Lebensscherben Před 2 lety

      Wiki says: To form Lotharingia, the player must complete the mission ‘The Crown of Lothair’. This requires that the player first navigate the Burgundian Succession Crisis and join the HRE. Burgundy players without the Emperor expansion and Lorraine players form Lotharingia via a decision with the same prerequisites instead.

  • @raghavgoel7933
    @raghavgoel7933 Před 2 lety

    How to get these graphics?

  • @antoniorecio1562
    @antoniorecio1562 Před 2 lety

    Im doing burgundy playthru atm. 1650 andi have all of france, germany and northern itally

  • @jonasnee
    @jonasnee Před 2 lety

    im confused as to why you put Christian the 4th in the video thumbnail.

  • @aluminiumknight4038
    @aluminiumknight4038 Před 2 lety

    I don't understand what's going on because so many cuts

  • @kindadumb916
    @kindadumb916 Před 2 lety +1

    Ah yes east Frisia the Paris of Germany

  • @EelooYT
    @EelooYT Před 2 lety

    If you cant beat em, join em

  • @viktorkemeny31
    @viktorkemeny31 Před 2 lety +1

    Golden Bull Laith pls! Reeeeeeeeee

  • @Jkm95
    @Jkm95 Před 2 lety

    잘보고있습니다
    조선도 한번 다뤄주세요

  • @theejiii
    @theejiii Před 2 lety

    wow, you do look like you go to durham uni

  • @TURKISHFINALBOSS
    @TURKISHFINALBOSS Před 2 lety +1

    DARK SOULS PLEAUSE MATE !!!

  • @richardbraakman7469
    @richardbraakman7469 Před 2 lety

    Plz explain why you end up fighting the Ottomans no matter where you start

  • @nobunagaoda8439
    @nobunagaoda8439 Před 2 lety

    Can you please try out Xorme AI mod that makes AI way better and more player like? Would love to see you try it and see how different it is

  • @DekuTheDestroyer
    @DekuTheDestroyer Před 2 lety

    The emporer lets burgundy join. Burgundy right after starts killing minor nation in the hre. The emporer maybe this was a bad idea.

  • @ZWilver
    @ZWilver Před rokem

    laith its kinda weird that you have ironman disabled

  • @oscriadocomandosancto2898

    Hold my Austria

  • @wintersking4290
    @wintersking4290 Před 2 lety

    Yes, take Lithuania and flank the Empire.