Black Bear Pass Trail Guide | Stock Jeep, Cherokees, Ford Ranger FX4
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- Black Bear Pass Trail Guide from trail start to Pandora Mine including the obstacles (including optional ones), the steps, the switchbacks, the narrow shelf roads, historic remains (Mines, Bridal Veil Falls, Via Ferrata), and stunning views. How to do Black Bear Pass with a Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk, new Ford Ranger FX4, Jeep Cherokee XJ, and a brand new stock Jeep Wrangler. We encounter bad weather and discuss the dangers on Black Bear as well as important information you should know. We also discuss how to get yourself ready to take on Black Bear Pass, a legendary Ouray, Silverton, Telluride off-road trail.
Channel Members have access to our filming schedule and I want you to be in the videos! The Black Bear crew gets additional easy to edit videos but offer more up to date info on trails (since guides take a while to put together). The Holy Cross crew gets more say in what videos get edited for the channel (video credits and early looks at Trail Guide edits). / @coloradomallcrawlers
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Time Stamps:
00:00 What will come!
00:40 Part 1: The Journey Begins
1:34 Meet the Drivers
3:30 It's Beautiful, but Easy
5:00 Final Climb to Black Bear Pass Summit
5:50 Part 2: It's all DOWNHILL from here
7:15 Sean HATES shelf roads
8:15 Black Bear Pass History & Mine
8:57 Part 3: We start with a BANG
10:40 No Bypasses: The Twister!
12:05 Ledge 1 or Obstacle 1
14:00 Obstacle 2 or Ledge 2
14:50 The Steps, the narrow shelf road
16:08 Yes, people have rolled over here too
17:06 The Legendary Tightest Switchback
19:55 Only 10 more switchbacks to go!
20:26 The Bridal Veil Powerhouse
20:39 The Via Ferrata Telluride
20:54 Bridal Veil Falls
21:37 The Bottom of Bridal Veil Falls
21:50 Pandora Mine
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My name is Dewie Jones and I’m the reluctant host, videographer, and video editor for the channel. I’ve daily driven a wrangler my entire driving life starting with a 1997 TJ, most recently a ten year old 2012 JK, and now new 2021 JL. I like the challenge of driving a stock wrangler on tough trails. My buds are not new to wheeling either, but for their own specific reasons, now wheel aggressive SUV based off-roaders like Cherokees, 4Runners, Land Cruisers, VW Touregs, and Renegades. We decided Colorado Mallcrawlers was a funny name so that's how we got here. We film our trail runs letting whatever happens, happen and then later make the video an accurate trail guide with comments on how to do it better than us.
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If this reopens (the sheriff seems determined to keep it closed), we’ll refilm this as I think we’ve improved our filming/editing techniques. I’ll likely use my liberty or TJ the next time and I have a lot of new vehicles that want to join on our trips. Speaking of that, we’re trying out using our channel membership to help organize those trail rides this year. Previously I used Facebook but a lot of our subscribers are not on Facebook and I want those who watch the videos to be in the videos.
Kudos to the gent who just did the whole thing, in a stock Ford Ranger with a set of Hankook Dynapros.
He’s a mad man, but a solid driver. He had his whole family in there 😂. Seriously tho, he knows what he’s doing. Thanks for watching!
Lmao Thanks
Don’t sleep on those Dynapros! Mine have been amazing, especially in snow.
@@Desertpunk1986 I've had nothing but good luck with these Dynapros
One of the best videos for blackbear, while emphasizing the risks without over exaggerating .
Thank you! That was the goal.
Please continue to put vehicle information on your videos. This video is well put together and FINALLY someone puts the information in the video, instead of having to have 50 people in the comment section asking ; lift, tire, axles ,gears. You got a new sub.!
Absolutely! I think most if not all have vehicle information in them, except for maybe the first two or three videos. Welcome and we’re glad you’re here!
I’m pumped to see a ranger hit this trail now that I have a ranger of my own!
He does great! Enjoy!
Another fantastic video! The Morgan Freeman voice was hilarious! I love this trail and I can tell some areas defiantly have gotten worse over the years. It's not really a difficult trail to run but if you screw up, you die kind of difficulty. Great job Dewey!!
Thanks buddy! Absolutely! I can’t wait till we all wheel together next year!
So glad to see Sean Watson back along with his kl Cherokee trailhawk and that ford ranger is awesome 😎
He’s in a bunch more to be edited!
This is a bucket list trip for me. I have a 18mo old son and another coming in 6 months. When the youngest is at least 5, so I know he'll remember it, I want to take them on a CO 4x4 trip. Giving them a bucket list trip at the start of their lives would be a great gift.
That sounds awesome! You all will have a great time! Cotton’s kids were little and they may not remember this, but I know he’ll bring them back on it again.
@@coloradomallcrawlers - yeah!!! That’s all my babedolls in that Ranger!!! I love this! ❤
Once again another fine job Dewie. Our Durango 4x4 club, the Creeper Jeepers, sponsor the trail to the Pass. The Western Slope Four Wheelers sponsor the section from the Pass to Telluride. The road traverses two different National Forests which divide at the Pass. Thank you for pointing out the difficult and treacherous nature of the road and the appropriate cautions. It IS NOT an easy trail by any stretch and those who say it is are making irresponsible statements that have led to so many serious incidents the trail is at risk of permanent closure. It did not open this year (2023) due to rockslide. San Miguel County crews had to rescue an out of State group who ignored the closure, got as far as the rock slide and nearly rolled trying to get past it. It required a hazardous recovery by the crew. Being fair to the County crew, they clear the trail of snow and rocks annually and if we think driving it is scary, watch the videos of the crew clearing it with their small Dozer. Again, many thanks for your fine, detained videos. Best, hope to meet you on the trail one day!
Thank you again for the kind words and all you and your club does to keep these trails going! I also hope to meet you too… what are your thoughts on black bear opening in 2024? I feel they’re gonna try to keep it closed, but that’s just my worry.
Did this in the beginning of August 2021 in my lifted 5th gen 4r. Tbh the first part of the steps gave me ptsd even with spotters. I took the right side line. But after that (pt2 and 3) of the steps were easy for me and i went down to the falls without spotters. Subsequently, all the trails we did after BBP felt easy lol
Here i am 4 months later watching the video my heart was racing again, just like i was there, in front of the part 1 of the steps.
Awesome! I’d have loved to see that! I need to find a way to get more Toyotas in the videos.
I just did it last week solo in the rain in my stock JLUR and I'm getting a little PTSD. Smart, I know. I was not very comfortable hitting 25 degrees of side tilt as my tires slipped sideways for traction trying to pick lines on these steps. I found the final steps and switchbacks easy after the first couple!
After watching this video I feel even more confident in my driving off road abilities. I have spent many years and summers in the Rockies driving back country road. In 2020 I bought a full size 2500 Lone Star black out Edition 4x4 Ram. We drove it straight away around the Alpine Loop and loved it. We didn't see any trucks as large as ours out there mostly Jeeps and side by sides . We did feel like people were looking at us like we were crazy !!! Honestly have have been talked out of going places. I have also been many places in 2wd that were discouraged with no issues. There have been years that the places we've went people told us that the roads were horrible. Then we go and find them pretty much normal. Guess some people just go nuts if they have to go slower than about 80 mph. ???? Anyway I enjoyed your video and the boost of confidence it's given me .
Awesome, just be careful with 2wd on black bear. I personally wouldn’t risk it especially with full size, but these videos are made so the viewer can make up their own mind. Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I have no intentions of doing bbp in TWD. I was simply pointing out that I have driven some roads where a sign had discouraged TWD. An example would be in the Rio Grand near Stunner Pass in particular the road up to Kerr Lake.
Oh perfect! Yeah, for sure, heck people complain to me about doing stuff in a stock Rubicon so I get it!
That's boss breaking in the new Jeep on Black bear ! 💪
Thank you! The 4 days of motor break in prior to this was definitely tough… I just wanted to wheel it!
Definitely one of the best videos of Black Bear pass.
Thank you!
Thanks for making these trails guides! They are very valuable and answers many questions we are wondering about! Keep up the good work!
It is great to hear that, thanks so much!
A great trail review and trail video!! The perfect combo of commentary, video, drone and tips!!
Awesome to hear! I’m trying to get better in each one so I like to hear that they’re starting to get balanced. That’s my goal!
I traversed BBP August 2021 at the recommendation of a good friend who had never been on it, I’d never heard of it until the day before. 😳 LOL! 🤪 Luckily I fell in behind a young and experienced off-roader who was a great guide. Lots of fun, but it had my full attention and added a gray hair or two. 😁
Glad you had someone to help guide you!
My daughter and I truly enjoyed this video, as well as some others. I just wanted to say that we've watched a lot of the Expo Overland guys, and yall are on par with them. Different, yes, but scenic view angles, information, and clarity are spot on. We loved watching and look forward to viewing the rest. Thank you guys for your hard work! Keep it up!
That means so much! I really appreciate it… my buddies are going to be helping me make these this year (editing) so I think us working together will bring out our best. Thank you!
Kl Cherokees are underrated,they deserve more love
They definitely are! We just wish they were a bit more durable with a 3in lift as it has some of the best traction abilities of any vehicle made!
@anothaview I've heard the opposite. Even I hear the code is going KM. Maybe a name change to Liberty, Commander, or even Patriot.
You mean the glorified minivan? 🤣🤣🤣
Project JL, the KL has outperformed my old JK wrangler in the past and he has a much better drive home than I do. It has a true low range and mechanical rear locker. By your logic, anything without solid axles isn’t a true 4x4 and that’s laughable.
Also, stick to your guns and don’t delete comments. I still see them and wanted to see where your original comment went. There’s a lot of people watching this that don’t own a JL or XJ 😉
I'm always happy seeing people using their rigs to have fun, mods or not! I have an FJ Cruiser I have had for 12 years, and my second 5th gen 4Runner. My 4Runner has a Magnuson supercharger, a lift and King shocks. However, I keep telling certain friends they don't need to mod their rigs to take on trails, if the respect the vehicle's limits!
This video is great because it shows people that they don't need several thousand dollars in mods to hit the trail☺️
Thank you!
@@coloradomallcrawlers This was very informative with no theatrics! Thank YOU!
This is the first video of yours I have watched and I am so glad to have discovered your channel. I appreciate your honesty, no hype and all the details regarding hazards and recommended lines. I look forward to viewing the rest of your videos to help me plan my trips. Thanks for helping to keep us all safe as we enjoy the wonders of nature.
Welcome! We want them to be entertaining yet informative as I want everyone who wants to see these views, to have that opportunity.
I did Black Bear Pass in summer of 2021 in a used Toyota LandCruiser 100 that I bought few days earlier. Previous owner installed 32" AT tires and 1.5" lift, but I had zero off-road experience. I am a vehicle dynamics engineer in Automotive industry and I had limit handling driver training, but this was my first 'serious' off-road trail. I was pretty much alone in the trail, may be because it rained earlier in the day.
All in all, there were 2 spots where I got real nervous (@15:09, @16:40) but overall the drive was safe, enjoyable and... oh what a beautiful scenery. Words and pictures videos just cannot describe it.
You have to have a capable vehicle (Please don't take your Subaru's and Audi's... they don't belong here), and you need to have some knowledge in vehicle behavior in limit handling cases (suspension travel, weight transfer, limit of grip etc) but Black Bear Pass is totally doable. Take your time and be conservative.
I’m glad it went well for you and I bet your driver training helped for sure. The big issue is this trail gets never ever off-roaders to take it on as their first time offroading. This is where issues happen and the local recovery crews have been extremely busy in recent years as a result. My belief is you should wheel the other trails in the area before attempting Black Bear. Thanks for watching!
Nice footage. Waiting for the full release. We were there the week before you and did many trails on the westside of 550. Thanks for sharing, great time!
Awesome! I’ll probably release the full version before it opens next summer… my goal is to figure out how to make a long version good. I gotta think about it for a bit.
I think you can stop calling yourself amateur at making videos. Your videos are better than 99% of the crap I see on CZcams.
Thank you! I have, but there’s always room for improvement. That means a lot tho!
I agree with your buddy, high altitude, narrow, steep shelf roads do suck. Been on too many of them to count in Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado on hunting trips. Seems like they affect me worse the older I get... Only enjoyment I get from them is getting off of them...LOL! It probably doesn't help that I only drive a big 3/4 ton Ram Diesel and a half ton Ram Diesel...I need something smaller, you guys make it look pretty easy.
I think we have some good drivers, but I don’t know if I’d personally do it in a full size. I’m not good enough for that lol. Thanks for watching!
GREAT CHANNEL, instructions, references, guidance and suggestions. Fantastic...forgot filming and the quality of the filming, both in terms of perspective and clarity. 1st class
Thank you so much! We really appreciate hearing that. I love making these and I want to make great videos for you all. We’re learning video making as we go so we hope they keep getting better. I’m currently saving up for a new camera so I hope to have that for the 2022 trail guides to provide even better visuals to you. Thanks for watching!
Great video!
I've done Black Bear twice. I'm obsessed with it!
It’s a sweet trail and I could see why 😉
Great job Dewie! Very nice selection of vehicles too.
Thank you! I’d love to do this for all videos… altho I would have liked to have a full size truck for this one too 😂
GREAT video! I hope to do this trail someday and I'll watch your guide over and over.
I really wish it was open… it should be, lots of vehicles safely did it before the sheriff created a false narrative about its 2023 conditions. I hope you get to do it!
This is a great guide, thank you for filming with a variety of vehicles, wheelbases, and levels of upgrades. As a Telluride first responder, I appreciate the words of caution and information for how to decide if you, your vehicle, and party are ready for BBP on THAT day. Our weather changes constantly in the summer months. We consistently see rollovers, breakdowns, and emergency incidents from Black Bear - they happen more often than we would like. So this is a great guide to help people enjoy it from the safety of their homes, or get more info for if they should attempt it or not. Thank you!
Thank you for all that you do and hopefully this will help decrease the issues on it!
That is so awesome to hear. . when we were planning for and doing the trail, we just mostly intended on documenting the best we could an epic adventure that we knew people would want to watch like we do. But as we were getting into the nitty gritty of it , it became evident with this one specifically it was going to have to have a dual purpose. Especially since nobody else on CZcams chose to take on that challenge ( and I get it. We were on the mountain wheeling and filming a 3 hour trail for almost 8 hours ). Hearing from the people that help out in the trenches that they appreciate the work we put in for that was worth it is flattering to us. Obviously ( If you feel it's worth it ) feel free to recommend people watch this one if you hear that they're thinking about doing bbp, the more tragedy we can help to avoid the better , the easier it is on you guys and the longer the trail can stay open for people To enjoy
I would take my modified Bronco II there or an old modified CJ-5, (both have extremely tight turning circles) but NONE of this late model scrap.
I would actually like to make it back without having to hike.
@@donreinke5863 ok well I drove back from telluride to Denver the next day just fine so.....
A 7 hour drive I'd kill myself before I made in either of those vehicles 🤮
Thank you to everyone who made this video. I have a 2022 tacoma dual cab 6ft bed and I didn't think it could ride this trail.but if the ranger can do it . I think I can.
Thanks for watching and have fun, altho, I believe the season is over for it right now. I’m not sure, but I think it got snow already.
Thanks Dewie. Nice video as usual. Puckerific!
Thank you sir! Lol, yeah, definitely a good pucker factor on this one!
Another great review. Thank you.
Thank you!
Nice job! Can't wait to see the full route. I didn't realize that it was 2-way traffic to the top of the pass. Seems like all the videos I've watched are focused on the switchbacks or rollovers
Thanks so much! Yeah, I will definitely make it, I just gotta figure out how to do well… it may not have any talking from me. So, most videos I’ve watched left out part 1, some show a little from part 2, but yeah, they mostly focus on part 3. I get it and I even spent over 1/2 of the video on part 3 here. Part three has what makes black bear a difficult trail, but in my opinion, to truly get a feel for Black Bear, you gotta take the whole thing together!
lol... I love the Morgan Freeman voice overs. Awesome video as always! That KL is kicking ass!
Glad you liked that! It sure is!
I'm really enjoying your videos! You give really good detail, tips and pointers. I live in WA state, summer 2021 on my drive back from visiing family in AZ I realized I'm so close to CO so I detoured over (spur of the moment thing, not on original travel plans) and crossed Ophir Pass with others I met on the Ophir trailhead. I also wanted to do Black Bear but I didnt have any luck finding anyone heading over Black Bear and crossing solo was out of the question, so I continued home with a trails stop at Moab. With a bit more planning I am going Black Bear Pass and other CO UT AZ trails on my next trip in 2023. It's also cool seeing these trail videos driven by someone who also has a JL 6spd.
That’s great to hear! Usually if you wait a bit at the trailhead, you can find others doing black Bear, but I understand not wanting to solo it. Good call! Thanks for watching!
YES YES YES!! Please post the long version!
I will, probably next season before it opens back up. I’ll look into making some visually appealing no talking videos in the future for sleep, study, and work as I use those myself. Thanks for watching!
Great video with a lot of useful information.
Thanks so much and thanks for your input on the group thread the other day!
Your vids never disappoints
That’s awesome to hear! I don’t have a lot of free time so I get how valuable time is. My goal is to not waste your time!
Wow, that road looks intense. I need this 😊
It’s fun!
WOW! Great job train driver! BEST BBP video ever! Lloyd and I loved it! Take him with you next time!
Thank you! Absolutely! I think Lloyd will go to the mountains with me on a trip when we got snow on the Moffat Subdivision!
@@coloradomallcrawlers That would be awesome! "blcdad" = "Benjamin Lloyd Cloer's Dad"
Really liking your channel, great job. Video idea: 10-15 great trails that are not shelf roads, for those who love to run trails, but who don’t love the drop offs lol.
Thank you and I’m glad you’re liking it! I’ll put that in my video ideas notebook in the submitted by viewers section, thanks!
this was the video that inspire me to do the trial and yes I did make it it was awesome. thank you
Awesome! That’s great to hear!
These videos are a great format for guys like me. I have a little experience but not enough to use the word "experience". Videos like this show me if I can take my vehicle on these trails. Perfect format, excellent execution, and I will hopefully be putting them to the test in my 4x4 truck in the future. Thanks for sharing these with us. Definitely a "like", probably going to be a "subscribe" too.
That’s the goal! Thanks for watching!
Good information, good narration love the drone shots… definately got a sub from me… looking forward to seeing your other videos…
Thank you!
Man this is probably the best video on Black Bear I’ve ever watched, great work! I’d love to see you do a video on Taylor Pass and Pearl Pass from Aspen to Crested Butte!
Thank you so much! That means a lot and it’s definitely on our list. I’m just at the mercy of my work, but we’re trying to get more filmed.
@@coloradomallcrawlers completely understood, keep up the great work! Subbed!
Truly excellent video.
Thank you!
Great guide, ran it last year (2020) for the first time, in our brand new stock TRD off-road tacoma, no issues. The first part of the steps is defiantly the worst but most videos skim over it for some reason. Thanks for showing the 3 lines, I went far left like you and have always questioned if that was the best one or not, it puts you literally right on the edge but never tips you on 2 tires. Agree with your recommendation, don't make this your first trail, one mistake and its going to hurt. We had a JKUR that we had lots of experience off-roading in CO and UT before hitting this bucket list trail.
Awesome! Thank you and I’m glad you had no issues!
Excellent video and narrative.
Thank you!
Thank for the great video
Thank you!
Great video!
Thanks for the visit! Hopefully it opens soon!
Love the videos! Last December I bought Zach's pre-ordered expedition one bumper for the KL never realized it was the same Zach in your videos until recently lol
Thanks so much! That’s awesome!
Did you get the bumper installed and fitted?
Your "not Morgan Freeman" guy was AWESOME
Yeah he was, I may use him again in the future.
I would love to do Black Bear Pass. However, I have a tiny issue with heights....LOL...someday I will face my fear head on. Thanks for this video! It be so much fun to go wheeling with you guys.
One day I hope to take you guys wheeling with us, like subscriber runs or something. I’m just fumbling with this CZcams thing as I go. Thanks for watching!
Love the new JLR! Congrats
Thank you!
That Morgan freemon lol awesome videos and content
Thank you!
Great trail guide gentleman! While I've been in and around the San Juan's I haven't done any of the trails in the area. I want to big time! Thanks for all the hard work you put into these guides!
Thank you so much! I got some good Moab ones coming and more from the San Juans… I’m just glad people watch them. I appreciate you guys!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I'm checking out some more for sure. I came across your channel awhile back and sub'ed but I hadn't gotten around to watching them. I've put them on my watch later list so I don't forget!
Awesome! I made some editing mistakes in the older ones, but I’m trying to improve that greatly. Especially for the lesser known trails now as I think there’s some great trails that are rarely covered. The one I’m filming today is one of those. I definitely appreciate the support!
@@coloradomallcrawlers sweet can't wait to see which trail you're filming!
This is a perfect video.
Thank you! I really appreciate that… I’m pretty critical of my uploads.
The Morgan Freeman voice over was hilarious! great video guys
He’s one of my favorites! Thank you!
The trend of heavy loads on rooftop is a dangerous one, not only on off-chamber trails, but also on the the highway if you have to swerve.
He has had no issues with it.
Great video...thanks.
Thank you!
I'm a fan of Sean and the KL cherokee trailhawk! This video is absolutely amazing! Camera work, color editing is top notch, and those camera angles... YUM! This must take a long time to edit! You are a very very skilled videographer! I wish Morgan Freeman would jump in and help me narrate my videos too!
Thank you, but I think your stuff is great! I’m just studying non-stop as I want to be an adventure videographer one day as my current job is going to get automated. I sent Sean my kit to send to you… it’s nothing special, but I add new equipment as I go. Editing is a pain only because my job gets in the way, but editing on an iPad helps me edit on the go. Morgan Freeman was a Fiverr impersonation and I used it because I was sick when I edited this… but I’m a big fan of the real one! Thanks for watching!
Love the video, but I am kind of shocked how little articulation the Cherokee has.
I did exactly what he said to do and do Ophir Pass first. It definitely made the pucker factor not as high as it could have been on Imogene Pass. I'm from Minnesota and we don't have the shelf roads like what there is in Colorado. Ngl, there was a spot that had some pucker purely because I couldn't see where my rear passenger tire was coin up from the Telluride side of Imogene.
I’m glad the recs were useful and thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers I've done Engineer Pass today. It didn't make the offcamber west half any less nerve wracking but still fun. Like Morgan said, what's a life without challenge. Still gonna do BBP tomorrow, can't be much more sketchy.
Wow, thank you all for joining us on Black Bear Pass! Hope you enjoyed it and found value from the video! It was a special one for me as you saw, but I didn’t say, this was also Sean’s first trail guide following his 2020 Red Cone incident. That video will be coming after the Top of the World Trail Guide which I’m working on now (it has a lot of wheeling from two small off-roaders 😉)
To make things easier in case you want to see the videos I mentioned in the video…
Cliffhanger 2.0 Trail Guide (much tougher than it appeared):
czcams.com/video/-JJvnySBpSg/video.html
Wheeler Lake Trail Guide (Sean’s Trailhawk takes on a tough trail):
czcams.com/video/hW5lUTPHZKs/video.html
Aldrich Lakes Snow Wheeling Trail Guide (Cotton’s Toyota vs my Jeep):
czcams.com/video/Ps7KiAKWPFo/video.html
Barbour Fork Trail Guide (special to me even tho I didn’t wheel in it… great trail!):
czcams.com/video/rc6RZdgbqw0/video.html
Thanks for your support… and we see you guys sharing our videos on the Facebook groups, you guys are absolutely awesome! I hope you’ve seen improvements in our videos as I’m trying to make these awesome for you!
-Dewie
your channel is awesome. Hope you are making some money off these videos to cover the costs at least.
@@gamergeek8933 Thank you! We make a little, but my goal is to put more into it than it makes. I enjoy making them and I’m glad people watch them!
Your videos always rock! Thank you for another awesome review.
Thank you so much! I want to make great ones for y’all!
@@coloradomallcrawlers you definitely do. And your approach makes off roading approachable to people that aren't all hard core.
Awesome! Well, that’s my big plan for the Jeep Liberty… I want to build an awesome little off-roader adventure vehicle. I don’t have a lot of money so it’ll be a budget build. I think it’ll be cool to see. Anyway, thank you for being here!
@@coloradomallcrawlers you have a PayPal or Venmo? I'll kick in a little for the project.
I appreciate you all for watching our stuff, commenting, liking… but I don’t want you guys to financially support me unless I’m offering something of value in direct exchange. I may try to work with partners to build the liberty to help keep my costs down, but when I say build it, I just mean, tires, rock rails, and skids. Or I may just wheel it completely stock.
Beautiful but definitely not to go alone !!!
Very true!
"You don't have to crazy to drive this road, but it helps " C.W. McCall
Lol, it’s not that bad as long as you’re use to shelf roads.
awesome video
Thank you! I’m trying my best to make great ones so it’s nice to hear this!
Well done. And that's coming from someone who has done Black Bear Pass 363 times.
Thank you! 363, that’s awesome!
Thank you for sharing! I’d love to go here one day (even partially) no low range or lockers makes some offsets difficult!
Yeah, I definitely like having 4low for the descent, but can be done without it… just be careful! Thanks for watching!
Great to see, had a Jeep Cherokee and now have a Ford Ranger Wildtrak. Nice video. ( not doing any of your stuff been to Apache trail before they closed it in a rental). Live in Sweden.
I love visiting your country and thanks for watching!
Bel video , fatto bene , che spiega bene le varie difficoltà del percorso , complimenti e saluti dall' Italia .
Thank you! Love your country! Greetings from Colorado
Loved the Morgan Freeman sound-a-like 😁👍🏾
That was fun to put in the video!
Great video and commentary. I’m headed down that way to do the Alpine Loop late July’23, in a not quite stock LX. Black Bear is on my list as an option at the end of the loop. Trying to decide if I should install skid plates or if the sliders and 33’s will be enough. When I showed your video to my wife she thought maybe she should skip this trip….
My guess is you’d be ok with good lines. With 11in of ground clearance, I hardly ever hit my skids in the San Juans. Have a great time!
Well done. Explained quite a bit for this novice.
I’m glad it was helpful!
I enjoyed the explanations. If I was with you, my first question would be "where can I turn around".
Lol, anywhere it’s wide enough. Thanks for watching!
Great video. That is a lot of work putting everything together. What GPS do you use and does it come with the trail maps?
Thank you! I use Gaia with trails off-road trail waypoints or OnX. I don’t really have a preference… I like Gaia’s historical map overlays so that’s my go to and it works through CarPlay. OnX is easy tho and they use the FunTreks waypoints and I like their books. OnX didn’t work through CarPlay but I heard they’re working on it. Hope that helps!
Wow. Awesome work! Morgan was cracking me up, it was really, really good. 😂 You do such a great job on these videos. I know from experience that they take a ton of work to produce (I don’t have enough patience to even attempt to make a video as good as this). I really enjoyed this one! Please keep these up!!!! 👍🏻🥳
Thank you buddy! However, I love your videos! That short film was excellent and I wish I could get music and wheeling to go together so seamlessly like you did! Appreciate the support! Looking forward to our Colorado Team up!
@@coloradomallcrawlers heck yea! I’m glad you liked that short little film. I don’t know how you make these trail guide videos, they’re so great! We will go hit something next season for sure! 🤘😑🤘
I appreciate this video and the way you guys went through with pinpointing it. I'll be making a big content road trip here in the next month, but it'll be solo, (I'm mainly going for visuals, photos and videos behind said photos) so...I'll stick to Ophir and maybe Imogene, conditioned on how Ophir feels. Watching the Ranger in the switchbacks and just how narrow the shelf gets here casts serious doubt on the track width of my (Gen 3) Raptor squeezing through. Mostly stock, but + Toyo Mts, so the width is a bit embiggened than OEM.
Sounds like a good plan! Have a great trip’
I remember doing black bear in my XJ, thinking that the I was in the perfect vehicle with the great turning circle, stable stance, and overall nimbleness. I did it on stock tires with a 2.5 inch lift and front and rear Aussie lockers.
Sounds like a sweet setup!
One day I'd like to get a two door XJ, that's a real Jeep.
@@user-cg7cc7zj3e the 2 door XJ is not as strong as the 4 door XJ.
Love the videos! I want to make one suggestion though. when you introduce the drivers and what there driving, you should show off their car they have that day, maybe film the b footage before you drive the trial?
It’s a good idea! I may try that in the future, thanks!
great video! if you go back to Utah, can you make a video for the elephant hill and devil’s kitchen?
I can definitely do that and the plan is to cover all Moab trails. It’s a bit harder as it’s difficult to get a group together for Moab, but I’ll film every time I’m there. I’m going today and trying to arrange a group, but I’ll look into seeing if I can fit it in and get a start time.
Great Video. How did you get a front camera on your screen inside the jeep?
Thank you! It was an option on the 21… I love it for shelf roads, but haven’t been able to make it work well for self spotting on rock obstacles yet. I didn’t talk about it, but I tried to use it on radical hill for that purpose.
Thank you for this Video. After watching it I won't be taking my SXS over it..
I’m glad it was useful!
I did it in a full size long bead. The steps were very easy. That one switch back was a bugger.
I absolutely could see that!
Definitely want a little experience before tackling that trail!
I wish I still had my Suzuki Samarai. It would make those switchbacks easier, and being narrow and small, would make the self roads less intimidating.
I owned a Samaria and I would rather have the lower weight and longer wheel base in there.
I owned one, and quite literally wore it out! Loved the thing!
And yes, it would have handled Black Bear road quite well in it's stock configuration. Which is all I ever used it as.
Stock, it is not the greatest rock climber, but for most trails, it was more than adequate!
Damn, I miss it!
great review. And the other 'Narrator's' voice was almost spot on. Not that id care to try it but i have heard the this trail was one-way up one day a year y?
It is and I’d love to do it myself up! My guess is it’s the Telluride Jeep Club that gets to do that as they got it reopened years ago.
This is a Superb video. Wonderful to see these sights and your skill. Please do publish the uncut video we would all love to see that! Two questions please. What is the max range of those two way radios/ walkie-talkies that you’re using mounted to your Rubicon’s dashboard? And what is size and make of those mud terrain tyres on your yellow Rubicon.
Thank you so much! I will, just gotta figure a way to make it good. Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers please can you help with answers to my two queries above?
@@shankarbalan3813 a few miles in the mountains but better if within the line of sight. Stock 33in (285/70/r17)
Awesome content and love the amount of information and words of caution!!
Just a question though, it doesn't look like you guys aired down your tires much. Is there a reason for that? My offroad experience is definitely more east coast forest/mountain driving and here having the tires aired down would help prevent some slippage on those downhill rocky areas.
Most of my crew does 18psi (Zach and Sean definitely were), but I usually don’t in the trail guides as it helps me judge the trail’s difficulty. Cotton probably didn’t air down as he’s like me, he’ll air down in route if the conditions dictate it.
However, I do recommend airing down for most people as it makes the ride better and it can make a bad rock crawling line safer. Thanks for watching!
@@coloradomallcrawlers cotton did to like 30 or so I think cuz I used my compressor to air his back up
Can't wait to tackle this in my new f150 quad cab. Has 35" tires with a 6" loft. Should be no problem. Just worried about the width.
Just be careful, take your time, turn around if it looks too risky. I think you’ll be ok, but I’d wheel it on some other San Juan trails as I discussed in the vid before attempting. Have fun!
Oh thank you, Thanks god that I search before hitting this trial. I'm a beginner and planning to do some off roading. Is it Cinnamon, California, and Corkscrew Pass are good to begin with? Doing the Black Bear pass I do have 4runner SR5 do I need also a power breaks something like that? Thank you
Your vehicle can do it, but you need to develop the skills. Yeah, those will be fun! I’d also do Ophir pass for its high and narrow shelf road. You should feel good on that shelf road before doing black bear. People flop on the obstacles and I’ve shown you how to take them in this video, BUT I wouldn’t practice on Black Bear. Mineral creek (lower engineer) might be a good place to practice obstacles, but it’s probably better to hit some local trails before you visit the San Juan’s. Have a good trip!
I don’t know why but this was probably one of the more realistic looking videos to the trail. Also you have a front facing camera stock? I’ve been looking at adding one.
I agree with you. It looks exactly how I remember it
Thanks buddy! That’s the goal! Honestly, the front camera was a big selling point, BUT on radical hill, I was trying to use it to self spot and it went well as you know, not so good 😂. It’s great for shelf roads tho!
Great video, but that Morgan Freeman voice was horrible and painful! 😆 Glad you guys had fun with it though. Keep up the solid work! Your video is definitely the one I'd recommend people to watch that have never done Black Bear. Nice breakdown of all the major obstacles.
Yeah, it’s not going to be a normal thing at all, I just was sick while making this one. Thanks for watching!
I have a 2019 KL. What are the mods done to the KL in this video and what size tires? Thanks for sharing
Here’s his walkaround. If you still have your warranty, I wouldn’t recommend the lift. The KL is awesome, but puts a lot of stress on the vehicle. czcams.com/video/pBqNbZ5qObA/video.html
Love the Morgan Freeman impersonator....he's good.
He sure is!
Love the nacho orange!!!!
Me too… if only I had been a few weeks earlier in ordering the JL, but I’m liking Baja Yellow. It reminds me of my favorite TJ and I absolutely loved that Jeep!
@@coloradomallcrawlers in your videos it looks orange!!!
The JK definitely did, maybe the new one does too. I color grade focusing on trying to make the background look true to what we saw but that sometimes alters the Jeep’s hue due to the lighting conditions.
@@coloradomallcrawlers well, keep up the great content in that orange jeep, I look forward to your videos 🤗🤗
Hey man, I've got a 19 trailhawk, where did you get your sliders? Thx in advance
He got them from Rocky Road Outfitters
Any chance of you checking out the Bank loop north of cañon city?
Yeah, I’ve got a huge list of trails to cover… including some big ones!
Nice 1996 Jeep Cherokee
Sure is!
Hello, you are shooting cool videos with beautiful landscapes! If it's not a secret, what is the current mileage of the Cherokee CL and whether you change the oil in the PTU and rear differential ?
We don’t hide things here, but I don’t own the Cherokee Trailhawk, Sean does. He answers some of these, but the best way to reach him is via his Instagram, @thetrailhawkoverlander He’ll tell you whatever you want to know and we may eventually do a video on the Trailhawk durability as both Zach and Sean have decent experience wheeling them.
thanks a lot!
@@cherokee_kl 36000 and no I haven't changed any fluids besides oil
Thank you for answer. In my country we have many cherokee 2014-2018, and we have many problems after 100-120.000 miles.
I have a 2005 WK with QDII system, Old Man Emu 2" HD lift kit, and running 265/70 R17 tires, do you think I can do this trail?
Yeah, if you have experience wheeling it on other trails. This trail is more about the driver than the vehicle. The biggest take away is this should not be your first high mountain shelf trail… you should be very comfortable on the other San Juan trails before attempting. Thanks for watching!