Some great ways to avoid moving into the path of a train are to STOP, LOOK, AND LISTEN. These trains don't hop off the tracks and start hunting people down!
Not a train or crossing problem. It’s a people problem not exercising caution and applying safety around trains. People are in way too much of a hurry and drive distracted. This is a sad situation but it will happen again and again because people don’t learn and honestly many use risky behaviors behind the wheel. Many don’t know how to be a defensive driver nor do they care because they feel it won’t happen to them!
there is no way to prevent car crashes, airplane crashes, train crashes. Nobody can stop Amtrak from being a passenger service. These people were trying to beat the train instead of heeding the lights, horn, and their own brain which tells them to not cross over the tracks when a train is coming.
Irresponsible reporting. The last guy said he sees the crossing and says to himself, "What if the arms don't come down?" Unless that is what happened here. and it doesn't appear to be the case, why is that even in the report?
And that attitude is part of the problem. Like if the arms don't come down it's not my fault. People don't even look for a train any more. I've sat by the crossing by me where high speed trains go by and watched drivers crossing and it's amazing to me that most just drive across the tracks with windows rolled up and without even a glance to check for an approaching train. This sort of nonchalant attitude is what gets you killed.
@@thud9797 Exactly. I live in South Florida and eagerly watched the progress of Brightline. What made the news? Not the fact that a private company was successful in building an intercity rail line in a fraction of the time than the government would (and that it's been wildly successful beyond anyone's predictions), but that people and cars were getting in its way. Even now I watch videos about California HSR, for example, and all the CZcams NIMBYS and naysayers comment about "Brightline killing people." No, trains don't kill people. People kill people.
When the crossing gates come down, the train has the right of way. The trains have been running these track long before these people were born. Ignore the idiots interviewed expressing concerns.
ALWAYS look both ways before crossing tracks, just like crossing any junction, or going through a green light. You really don’t want to be t-boned by a train though.
Another unfortunate tragic fatality. Here we go again, blame the railroad for these fatal incidents. The railroad is in full compliance with the Federal Railroad Administration recommendations for protecting that crossing with red lights and gates. The census of traffic that uses a crossing at grade determines how that crossing is to be protected by the Federal Railroad Administration, either by red only cross bucks (with a stop sign), or lights alone, or a combination of red lights and gates. As a retired locomotive engineer and Operation Lifesaver presenter, (a program that teaches the public on grade crossing safety) it often is the case that most of the grade crossing incidents happen when crossings are protected by red lights and gates. "See tracks, think Train" is one of the OS slogans. Amtrak travels up to 79MPH a speed that doesn't allow much time to attempt for a motorist to get out of the way. The FRA will investigate, make a report and announce their findings via the media.
That little boy was one of the sweetest, smartest, and most vibrant children I have ever had the pleasure of teaching. He will be missed. Prayers to his family and friends.
Any and all drivers ed classes includes a video of a car/train crash. There are multiple tracks here, and this may have been complicated by the presence of a police car and tow truck on the opposite side, but the gates will break away with the slightest hit from a car.
So heartbreaking risking their lives and that poor innocent child! Which I'm sure isn't even there child. It's probably their grandchild which is even worse!
I used to live right by there... went thru this thousands of times. I can tell you.. you don't sit on the tracks!!! For no reason!! Especially when 1 of the arms are down and bells are ringing!! JS.
At the Rodgers Rd crossing , in Hamburg off Rt 5 , The Trains are not allowed to blow their horns . There is a sign there warning You . Imagine what will happen if the Arms fail to come down ( if their power waa off ) and You are crossing the tracks . I talked to a CSX Engineer and he said those are called " Quiet Zones ". He said Trains DO hit cars but he said the Insurance Companies have deep pockets to pay out when that happens .
is it the community concern or the news whipping up emotions..........that typed! RIP to the lil one and adults and my feeling go out to the engineer and responders
Well said! I think the news went and selected the two biggest morons of all those interviewed and made them the spotlight. Just give us the facts and save the opinions for social media.
Don't drive onto the tracks if traffic is stopped ahead. Crash through the fiberglass gates, as they are meant to break away in an emergency. Get out of the vehicle and get away from the tracks.
@@No_Cho No. Two older people with a young child are going to execute an emergency evacuation in 15 seconds or so? I doubt it. What's if a whole family is in there? The only answer is not drive onto the tracks unless it is clear and you can get to the other side and obviously this driver failed to do that.
Sincere Condolences to those lost and impacted by this tragedy. I hope we can all learn from this. As a driver, you should be looking beyond the tracks before you even start to cross them. If there is an obstruction preventing you from clearing the tracks, do not pass the RR Crossing signal, even if the gates are not activated. It is also the law not to stop on railroad tracks (NY Vehicle & Traffic (VAT) CHAPTER 71, TITLE 7, ARTICLE 32, Section 1202 (h)). I know, in this case, that is a sharp right turn, but there is still a full car length prior to entering the crossing to make that quick assessment. This is the driver's responsibility. These accidents are totally preventable.
Not from the area, but looking at the crossing on Street View. Are the traffic lights coordinated with the crossing gates? Maybe they could consider gates at the end of the turn lanes onto that street. I used to live in San Diego, and driving to the airport there involves going onto city streets and across a very busy grade crossing and then a right turn onto a very busy street, with there often being traffic backups. I always tried to avoid being stopped on the tracks, but it was still a kinda scary situation.
I know a lot of people have a habit of seeing crossing flashing signals the same as a yellow caution signal. Enter the crossing quickly because a gate or red light will follow. They've all taken the same driving course that tells them both are stop do not enter the crossing, but they seem to think they'll get lucky again and take a chance. Doing that when there are other people in the car who might not want to rely on luck, is not just selfish but criminal minded. In those cases I don't 'feel' for the driver, but I do their passengers. Tax payers spend hundreds of thousands to prevent dangers but there is always some who want to still take a chance.
This crossing seems to have several city design features missing. Travelling northbound there isn't a separate reserved turning lane so that a car waiting for a safe crossing will block though traffic. On the other side crossing the tracks, it is restricted to a single through lane so that any vehicle stopped for a traffic stop blocks all through traffic and can trap a vehicle between gates. If a car attempts to back up it is exposed to through traffic going northbound, The intersection is definitely a accident waiting to happen. there should be separate lanes on both sides such that there will be an escape path. If someone knew the area, and saw the car stopped on Felton, should not have attempted to cross seeing there was no safe way around the stopped car. There is no shoulder for a stopped car on Felton and there should be. If you look at the crossing between the gates it has space for 2 lanes but immediately after the gates on the city property on Felton, it abruptly becomes single lane with no shoulder or merge. Even on google maps you can see a broken gate on that side lying on the ground from a similar accident. That's tells you this is not an unusual occurrence. Had there been a turning lane on River, the light sequence should be a red stop for that lane once the red flashing crossing lights activates or at least switch to short amber. Without any turning lanes, all traffic must stop once a train signal starts flashing. The flashing train crossing lights is a 'STOP' signal (not the gates) and for any cars within the gates to clear. There is also no markings showing the no stopping under any circumstance on fellton or the crossing. Also there is a pedestrian crossing and lights that goes nowhere, there is no crossing onto Felton for pedestrians even though there is a sidewalk, just none over the crossing.
The go-fund me says send prayers and money. I'll just send the prayers and see how far that gets them. If prayers worked they wouldn't need to ask for money.
Nobody can really say what happened here. The truth is its not the first tume so why have they not put up a camera at this crossing that can tell us if this is a railroad crossing mishap or if this is indeed the vehicle drivers fault.
Its the driver's fault either way. You pull across the tracks (railroad property) only when it's clear regardless of whatever lights or warnings that are supposed to be working.
Train crashes into vehicle? ah... how about mindless driver crossed the train tracks at the wrong time? Stop blaming the train! It's not the train's fault! It's all the dumb drivers out there who are clueless about the weight and power of a locomotive train!
Six year old boy died because of an adult acting like a six year old boy! There are plenty more of these people out there and there are plenty more children who will lose their lives because of the mindless drivers out there!
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All automobile-train collisions are the result of a motorist doing something dumb. I do not feel sorry for these dumb people. However, I do have concern for the train crew that has to watch this happening and are helpless to do anything. Psychological problems show up in engineers at the throttle after a car pulls in front of a locomotive. Simple physics going on here. A car might weigh 2000 lbs, one ton. The mile long moving train weighs thousands of tons and might require a mile to stop. Guess who wins ,,,
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It wasn't a train crash. it was a car crash. It is never the trains fault!
IT WAS THE COPS FAULT
Some great ways to avoid moving into the path of a train are to STOP, LOOK, AND LISTEN. These trains don't hop off the tracks and start hunting people down!
As tragic as this is it's not the train's fault. People need to wake the hell up.
A railroader’s worst nightmare…
The tracks and train doesn't bother me, the drivers do.
Not a train or crossing problem. It’s a people problem not exercising caution and applying safety around trains. People are in way too much of a hurry and drive distracted. This is a sad situation but it will happen again and again because people don’t learn and honestly many use risky behaviors behind the wheel. Many don’t know how to be a defensive driver nor do they care because they feel it won’t happen to them!
it's not the train tracks fault. geez. it's bad drivers
there is no way to prevent car crashes, airplane crashes, train crashes. Nobody can stop Amtrak from being a passenger service. These people were trying to beat the train instead of heeding the lights, horn, and their own brain which tells them to not cross over the tracks when a train is coming.
Irresponsible reporting. The last guy said he sees the crossing and says to himself, "What if the arms don't come down?" Unless that is what happened here. and it doesn't appear to be the case, why is that even in the report?
And that attitude is part of the problem. Like if the arms don't come down it's not my fault. People don't even look for a train any more. I've sat by the crossing by me where high speed trains go by and watched drivers crossing and it's amazing to me that most just drive across the tracks with windows rolled up and without even a glance to check for an approaching train. This sort of nonchalant attitude is what gets you killed.
@@thud9797 Exactly. I live in South Florida and eagerly watched the progress of Brightline. What made the news? Not the fact that a private company was successful in building an intercity rail line in a fraction of the time than the government would (and that it's been wildly successful beyond anyone's predictions), but that people and cars were getting in its way. Even now I watch videos about California HSR, for example, and all the CZcams NIMBYS and naysayers comment about "Brightline killing people." No, trains don't kill people. People kill people.
When the crossing gates come down, the train has the right of way. The trains have been running these track long before these people were born. Ignore the idiots interviewed expressing concerns.
just the news inciting the emotions, how they make their ad dollars,
ALWAYS look both ways before crossing tracks, just like crossing any junction, or going through a green light. You really don’t want to be t-boned by a train though.
HEARTBREAKING
If only there was a way to make trains bigger, louder, easier to see...
Friend of mine worked as a driver for a National Bus Company. The coaches were white Prevosts & MCI and yet the same drivers always got in his way....
It could be the size of the Titanic and someone will not see it coming.
Another unfortunate tragic fatality. Here we go again, blame the railroad for these fatal incidents. The railroad is in full compliance with the Federal Railroad Administration recommendations for protecting that crossing with red lights and gates. The census of traffic that uses a crossing at grade determines how that crossing is to be protected by the Federal Railroad Administration, either by red only cross bucks (with a stop sign), or lights alone, or a combination of red lights and gates. As a retired locomotive engineer and Operation Lifesaver presenter, (a program that teaches the public on grade crossing safety) it often is the case that most of the grade crossing incidents happen when crossings are protected by red lights and gates. "See tracks, think Train" is one of the OS slogans. Amtrak travels up to 79MPH a speed that doesn't allow much time to attempt for a motorist to get out of the way. The FRA will investigate, make a report and announce their findings via the media.
At crossings, stop when you have to though the coast may appear clear. 🙏
Ohhhh no . So sorry to hear
That little boy was one of the sweetest, smartest, and most vibrant children I have ever had the pleasure of teaching. He will be missed. Prayers to his family and friends.
Any and all drivers ed classes includes a video of a car/train crash. There are multiple tracks here, and this may have been complicated by the presence of a police car and tow truck on the opposite side, but the gates will break away with the slightest hit from a car.
They sound the train so many times, the rails go down and the lights flash by the tracks! How can you not see or hear the trains?
So heartbreaking risking their lives and that poor innocent child! Which I'm sure isn't even there child. It's probably their grandchild which is even worse!
I used to live right by there... went thru this thousands of times. I can tell you.. you don't sit on the tracks!!! For no reason!! Especially when 1 of the arms are down and bells are ringing!! JS.
At the Rodgers Rd crossing , in Hamburg off Rt 5 , The Trains are not allowed to blow their horns .
There is a sign there warning You .
Imagine what will happen if the Arms fail to come down ( if their power waa off ) and You are crossing the tracks .
I talked to a CSX Engineer and he said those are called " Quiet Zones ".
He said Trains DO hit cars but he said the Insurance Companies have deep pockets to pay out when that happens .
is it the community concern or the news whipping up emotions..........that typed! RIP to the lil one and adults and my feeling go out to the engineer and responders
Well said! I think the news went and selected the two biggest morons of all those interviewed and made them the spotlight. Just give us the facts and save the opinions for social media.
Dear reporter. If a car drove onto an airport landing strip and got hit by an airplane it isn't the airplanes fault.
driver paused on the tracks...then the swing gates came down and train whistle blew...man panicked....I'm not sure how to fix this...
Exit vehicle, leave car.
They start sounding before the gates come down. It's usually someone trying to beat the train.
Don't drive onto the tracks if traffic is stopped ahead. Crash through the fiberglass gates, as they are meant to break away in an emergency. Get out of the vehicle and get away from the tracks.
@@No_Cho
No. Two older people with a young child are going to execute an emergency evacuation in 15 seconds or so? I doubt it. What's if a whole family is in there? The only answer is not drive onto the tracks unless it is clear and you can get to the other side and obviously this driver failed to do that.
Sincere Condolences to those lost and impacted by this tragedy. I hope we can all learn from this.
As a driver, you should be looking beyond the tracks before you even start to cross them. If there is an obstruction preventing you from clearing the tracks, do not pass the RR Crossing signal, even if the gates are not activated. It is also the law not to stop on railroad tracks (NY Vehicle & Traffic (VAT) CHAPTER 71, TITLE 7, ARTICLE 32, Section 1202 (h)).
I know, in this case, that is a sharp right turn, but there is still a full car length prior to entering the crossing to make that quick assessment. This is the driver's responsibility. These accidents are totally preventable.
Not from the area, but looking at the crossing on Street View. Are the traffic lights coordinated with the crossing gates? Maybe they could consider gates at the end of the turn lanes onto that street.
I used to live in San Diego, and driving to the airport there involves going onto city streets and across a very busy grade crossing and then a right turn onto a very busy street, with there often being traffic backups. I always tried to avoid being stopped on the tracks, but it was still a kinda scary situation.
I know a lot of people have a habit of seeing crossing flashing signals the same as a yellow caution signal. Enter the crossing quickly because a gate or red light will follow. They've all taken the same driving course that tells them both are stop do not enter the crossing, but they seem to think they'll get lucky again and take a chance. Doing that when there are other people in the car who might not want to rely on luck, is not just selfish but criminal minded. In those cases I don't 'feel' for the driver, but I do their passengers. Tax payers spend hundreds of thousands to prevent dangers but there is always some who want to still take a chance.
@@andyjay729 Yes, the traffic lights are coordinated with the railroad signals from all directions.
@@andyjay729 Yes, the traffic signals are coordinated with the railroad signals from all directions.
I know this area and it is sus for sure no warning when you turn
This crossing seems to have several city design features missing. Travelling northbound there isn't a separate reserved turning lane so that a car waiting for a safe crossing will block though traffic. On the other side crossing the tracks, it is restricted to a single through lane so that any vehicle stopped for a traffic stop blocks all through traffic and can trap a vehicle between gates. If a car attempts to back up it is exposed to through traffic going northbound, The intersection is definitely a accident waiting to happen. there should be separate lanes on both sides such that there will be an escape path. If someone knew the area, and saw the car stopped on Felton, should not have attempted to cross seeing there was no safe way around the stopped car. There is no shoulder for a stopped car on Felton and there should be. If you look at the crossing between the gates it has space for 2 lanes but immediately after the gates on the city property on Felton, it abruptly becomes single lane with no shoulder or merge. Even on google maps you can see a broken gate on that side lying on the ground from a similar accident. That's tells you this is not an unusual occurrence. Had there been a turning lane on River, the light sequence should be a red stop for that lane once the red flashing crossing lights activates or at least switch to short amber. Without any turning lanes, all traffic must stop once a train signal starts flashing. The flashing train crossing lights is a 'STOP' signal (not the gates) and for any cars within the gates to clear. There is also no markings showing the no stopping under any circumstance on fellton or the crossing. Also there is a pedestrian crossing and lights that goes nowhere, there is no crossing onto Felton for pedestrians even though there is a sidewalk, just none over the crossing.
Driver safety.
The go-fund me says send prayers and money. I'll just send the prayers and see how far that gets them. If prayers worked they wouldn't need to ask for money.
Nobody can really say what happened here. The truth is its not the first tume so why have they not put up a camera at this crossing that can tell us if this is a railroad crossing mishap or if this is indeed the vehicle drivers fault.
Its the driver's fault either way. You pull across the tracks (railroad property) only when it's clear regardless of whatever lights or warnings that are supposed to be working.
Train crashes into vehicle? ah... how about mindless driver crossed the train tracks at the wrong time? Stop blaming the train! It's not the train's fault! It's all the dumb drivers out there who are clueless about the weight and power of a locomotive train!
Six year old boy died because of an adult acting like a six year old boy! There are plenty more of these people out there and there are plenty more children who will lose their lives because of the mindless drivers out there!
That isn’t how this happened, there are witnesses
Not the train’s fault. Just stupid drivers, that’s all.
Hey , improve your reading & driving skills....
I could find other things to worry about in life as to whether or not the gates come down
Indeed… timing is just as crucial as appropriate response &/or anticipated movement to avoid disruption &/or disaster.
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages
pre·par·a·to·ry
adjective
serving as or carrying out preparation for a task or undertaking.
"more preparatory work is needed"
BRITISH
relating to education in a prep school.
I dated a fat girl my friends called “a ton of Wanda”
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All automobile-train collisions are the result of a motorist doing something dumb. I do not feel sorry for these dumb people. However, I do have concern for the train crew that has to watch this happening and are helpless to do anything. Psychological problems show up in engineers at the throttle after a car pulls in front of a locomotive. Simple physics going on here. A car might weigh 2000 lbs, one ton. The mile long moving train weighs thousands of tons and might require a mile to stop. Guess who wins ,,,