The MYSTERY of the Gundrak Snake Tail
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- This video will answer two of the most frequently asked questions I get. Is there a reason for why the snake tail in Gundrak is there and how does it look in the other end? We will see what Blizzard themselves have to say about the matter, after which we break down Gundraks smoke and mirrors and see what's at the other end of the tail. Enjoy!
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"There is actually less to find here then there is end-game content in warlords of draenor" HAH! Well played.
Hayven just really knows what's going down
yeah, I like the sick burns from Hayven!
Rest in peace Hayven we will remember you forever..
who or what was he, and what happened
@@gokibros4451 Just a very talented and well liked WoW player and CZcamsr. He succumbed to cancer several years ago, unfortunately.
I found this channel only after his death. Pity, as he seems like he was a really cool dude.
Only Jesse Cox would take a screenshot of a wiggly snake tale and blow it up to a poster size
At 2:25 you can see Chris is desperately trying to figure out a way to bullshit his way outta this.
he always does a good job.
Did he kind of come off like a bit of a jerk to anyone else?
Yeah, and there is a little more evidence to point toward Gun Drak being an intended raid. There is a flight path right nearby with a repair vendor and that traditionally wasn't done for normal dungeons.
Another thing that strikes me was how a few weapons turned up in the ICC loot table with a troll-design, even though the aesthetic for the rest of the gear is very scourge-based. It seems like some models were already designed for the GunDrak raid and the team didn't want to waste them.
@@bodbyss I'm 7 years late, but thanks to all the controversies surrounding Blizzard over the last few years, it turns out most of them have always been jerks, to say the very least.
Jesse's snake tail question is approaching meme status. At this point, if we get a Zandalar patch, I think he deserves an NPC in his name: Mojomaker Je'se.
Doesn't have to play a major role in the story. Just a troll dude standing in front of a wall with a little snake tail poking out the bottom, while he yells "What does it mean mon?!"
Also butterflies. Can't forget butterflies.
Hell yea
...Moth Loa could be a thing?
Not butterflies. Space butterflies
Snake tails and space butterflies mon. What does 'dis mean, we might nevah know!
So it was Jesse after all, I recognized the voice, he looks so different though :D
It was his 1st video that i watched... And now he's dead... Fuck cancer... Rest is Peace, I hope u are in better place
SIRWilczek miss him so much
SIRWilczek What?! He died?!
Nessie Andrew Yeah ;____;
SIRWilczek I began watching him 3 days ago...
I wish i was necromancer to revive him😢
so this can basically be chalked up to, "artists put silly things in the game without telling us sometimes"
Lies all lies they cant be bothered explaining hwy it didn't become anything
When you cool as a cucumber if you could please try a little harder that would be so excellent
@@whenyoucoolasacucumber finally a good youtube comment
I got a serious problem with your content. You spend time in producing your videos, don't use capslock titles or even thumbnails with watermelons..that doesn't fit the standard CZcams content.
Just kidding. Keep up the work man, amazing videos!
Yeah it was either this title or "THE UNBELIEVABLE TERRIFYING MYSTERY OF THE GUNDRAK SNAKE WHICH WILL LEAVE YOU SLEEPLESS AT NIGHT AND BLOW YOUR MINDHOLE!!!!111!!"
LOOOOL
You should seriously name one of your videos like that.
(GONE WRONG)
"If that snaketail has been in FF14, not only would it have had a purpose, it would have shown up as a character two expansions later as part of the ongoing story." - Jess Cox
I wondered why Blizzard made such a cool and lore-filled zone like Zul'drak (though it was kind of dark and gloomy in color scheme) including that giant building at the end and never did anything with it. I don't know how they would have possibly squeezed in another raid, but it was a missed opportunity. It could have had players helping the ice trolls fight undead trolls and their Scourge emissaries to protect their god spirits from falling to corruption.
They had so much more in wotlk but they scrap it up, they had no time i guess they wanted cata faster...
@@danmetrou so originally there was a MASSIVE amount of content for wrath, more than any other expanse to have come before or after, but due to the suits in charge above the dev team had to cut alot of content to make the deadline the suits wanted for its release, there was supposed to be multiple underground world zones that were nerubian inspired kingdoms we were supposed to travel to, all the nerubian dungeons were just the entrances to the further depths of their kingdoms/empire, with a giant spider mount that allowed us to crawl acrossed the walls and cavern ceilings, but this all had to be cut due to time constraints, Zul'drak was another casualty of this, the giant building at the very tip of it was supposed to be a raid and tons of content was supposed to be filled in that zone but once again the share holders/suits in charge above gave the dev team a deadline and said "make it work or pack your shit and find new jobs."
RIP man..
Gundrak was planned as Raid and my speculation is that this snake should be a Boss of the instance
Either that or the snake tail would serve as the entrance.
Being a game developer myself I can vouch for the "sometimes artists just like to put in cool stuff" thing =)
I think they should do expansion with all cutted from previous expansions content. Azjol-Nerub, Farahlon, Thal'Dranath and etc. All content that "didn't fit in expansion story".
well farahlon was the only one that "didn't fit the story". they just scrapped azjol nerub and used it for 2 dungeons and thal'dranath is being replaced by something else as it was too similar to suramar and azsuna
Sean Gannon that was just some examples of many things that didn't make it to release "for reason". thal'dranath is really cool place and it's important part of Broken Isles. Instead of "5 brand new locations in the midle of nowhere, new over9000 level cap" they can do things that should be there for long time. Was was waiting for them. And that world is missing them. They can't just
infinitely raise level cap and make new end game contnet about which nobody will cares after couple of years.
I honestly think they'll rehash Northrend content in a later expansion. They're already doing it little by little, look at the end-game content of Cataclysm, with Dragonblight basically being the location of Dragon Soul and such, and even in Legion, players are revisiting some places for their artifact weapons. I highly believe the new Lich King - aka Bolvar Fordragon, who took the crown and duty of becoming the new Lich King after Arthas died in WOTLK - Blizzard will eventually decide that he's become a new threat, now players have to go and kill him, or some bullshit like that. And if that should ever happen, hopefully cut content from WOTLK would finally make it's debut.
If you played vanilla you'll recognize the color pattern and colors from the old ZG Hakkar model (back when you had to pull poison snakes to kill him)
6:42 Ouch ! Right in the heart, man ! LoL nice one
That burn at the end.
So cringe when he said super effective.
LMAO
0:55 Thanks for solving the mystery. I figured it looked something like that when you told me the snake just cut off. This would've been an amazing build up for a raid boss.
Those 5 man WotLK instances were so fun with a geared prot warrior instant queues all day just speedrunning heroics
Hi hayven, I know that you're no longer here, but if you're in heaven thinking about this snake maybe it's sethrak, a loa.
the andwer from blizz is really disappointing
Seriously, the deadpan reading of that quote is GOLD
I didn't think it was a "mistake" not to do it, but instead i think it was nice to add about the raid, as many people probably didn't even know there were plans for such raid, and instead it went quiet and forgotten. Again, great video man, thumbs up. Yours is one of my favorite channels, i've watch the evolution of Scholo and SM so many times that i lost count... those 2 bring me back so many good memories. And finaly, i can't wait for the evolution of Sunken Temple !!!
I like coming back to his channel every once in a while... Rest in Peace, Hayven
I watched this before work. Glad time hasnt gone backwards.
rest in peace man, thank you for covering this. I love your content. you will be missed
oooooooooooo
dat burn on wod thou
got em
I like the idea of a Gundrak raid in Northrend. The back of the Temple, going down to the east sea, shows a lot of structures, and they look intriguing enough.
I heard it was a suppose to be a boss that was removed during development for another section of the gundrak area. Maybe a raid boss. Getting info from Blizzard highly depends on who you talk to. Cause I doubt Metzen remembers barely a quarter of the stuff that goes on in WoW due to everyone and every team is in charge of something that he doesn't really watch over closely. I could put a dick in the game and I think it'll take blizzard 5 years to find it hiding in the leg of jaina.
This was one of the best wow content vids I've seen, very intriguing and very well done!
I think that snake tail is part of a loa (Ula-tek as you mentioned) of titanic proportions
damn it hasn't even been a week and I still miss him I cried for 2 hrs because I love his content
Chris Metzen just had this face of "oh my God, when the hell did we even add that? I got no fucking idea. I'll just make a joke about it".
It's really a shame that the only way I get to know about this amazing guy is by finding out about his death. I've only watched two of his videos, and I'm already hooked for more. Rest in peace. You will never be forgotten.
I just discovered your channel and I just can't stop because you're showing me things I've wondered about for years, keep up the good work
"From the space that is everywhere and nowhere, the crooked serpent feasts on stars." - Il'gynoth
This popped up as a rec out of the blue again. I smiled and am back to watch your content bro, Rest in Peace.
A good theory, and possibly a really good excuse lore wise, would be that, the snake tail could belong to Hakkar the soul flayer, or rather perhaps his emissary, who convinced the ice trolls to kill their loa so they could gain power. Yet in truth, Hakkar's reasons for "helping them" were just a front to not only take over eventually, but it also could be possible that not even Hakkar's fellow Loa are safe from his lust for blood.
Miss you man! So i just watch all Videos of you again..
why the fuck do the dev's look at these people like: wait that's in our game? that's a thing? fuck i didn't know that.
Ben German lmao no idea why That's funny
That WoD roast at the end tho
SAVAGE HAYVEN IS SAVAGE
Nice little dig there are the end about the endgame content (or lack thereof) in Warlords of Draenor. :D
I don't even play this game idk why this was recommended to me. but now I gotta know what is this snake
Obviously it's the soul flayer
This is right up my alley. WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!
Holy shit that WoD burn at the end. Golden.
A Zul Drak raid would have been a pretty cool addition
There are some giant snake remains you can find in the waters off the coast of Stranglethorn Vale, at least in the Classic version of the game, idk if it got removed with Cataclysm, so very massive snakes are certainly tied to trolls.
I would bet though that if they'd made Gundrak a raid that snake would've been one of the bosses
Occham's Razor, man. It was something someone designed which looked cool and they probably had some basic ideas of what to do with it and it was forgotten about.
If you were to be able to glitch past the ledge and jump on the snake, would you be able to walk on it or would you fall right through it?
You fall right through it
Ok, thanks for the quick reply :)
Hayven Games miss you even if you can't read this R.I.P
Love the atmospheric musics from your videos. Keep the good work !
Soon at the end.. The journey we all had getting there was great.
Lore? Trolls? I don't think Blizzard has ever uttered those words within an hour of each other.
Snake tail? Interesting, I always thought it was a long floating kite.
OMG IT JUST CAME UPON ME!!!
What if, it is just a regular gigantic snake chilling around having no care in the world? Can't a snake snake in peace nowadays?
THINK ABOUT THE SNAAAAAKES!!!!
The answer that the developer gave pretty much sums up the state of World of Warcraft, they literally have no idea what they are doing until we tell them what we want, then they tell us we think we want that but we don't. Love your videos mate and probably why I continue to watch, but seeing that idiot talk reminded me the reason I left the game.
Exactly the reason I stopped playing as well.
3:00 is an honest answer to how blizzard make lore nowdays
gundrak would've been better than Trial of crusader...
Every time now i hear this voice i cry... RIP man...
I remember speculation that this thing escaped from Uldum back in the day, when it was just a giant door.
They should really have the art director on those panels so they can actually explain the decision to put things in places.
You mentioned we have never been inside the main building of Gundrak. I love your videos and I would love to see if there is some hidden rooms within the instance or in the uninstanced version as well.
Played WoW since TBC and had no idea this was even there, it's a very interesting and I highly assume it's just something to look cool for the dungeon, and could expand into the Gun'drak raid, which sadly never made it
really thank yo for this video, I really wanted to find out more about this tail.
a Gundrak raid would have been awesome.
Ahaha, thank you SO much for this. I was just in there the other day & wondering yet again wtf that snake tail was for! 😂
Well just want to say that it's probably the off spring of the snake loa that dies in the area, it may of intended to be a massive boss in a further encounter (like King dred) but it was likely just ment to be a model design
6:42 sick burn :D
It looks like hakkar. Is it hakkar? Kinda has hakkars colours
again I must say savage XD at the end
May your soul rest in peace, Hayven.
I remember seeing this in Gundrak and thinking "oh crap, that's going to be the final boss, isn't it?" And then... nada, nothing. Way to tease, Blizzard.
Thank you for doing this video. Also thanks for mentioning me.
I always felt it was some "Hakkar" type that we might see later :)
Thanks for the repost
Yeah, I followed the comments and really regretted not talking about the Gundrak raid speculations. And eventually I just had to correct my mistake otherwise it would have bugged me forever...
I've never seen that Jesse Cox blizzcon video til now, it's amazing young jesse!
Thank you for this video... i'm a lil disappointed there wasn't more to the snake. like most people. i too have wondered about the snake and what was at the back of that wall.
at least i know now :) xx wonderful work as usual x thumbs up from me
I always find i strange that we never enter the main building of Gundrak. We only get in one of its side buildings
Just some thoughts:
Look at the color of the tail and then look back to Hakkar.
This could be what drives the trolls crazy.
Gundrak raid was one of those things they managed to not fuck themselves on and promise us beforehand. Instead, it's something that as a player, you only catch on to the fact we were shorted on more content later down the line. It's so blatantly obvious that was meant to be a WotLK troll raid that they scrapped for whatever reason.
Metzen at 2:22
"This is what I created. This is my legacy."
i fucking love the guy who took a screenshot with him
I thought it's the remnant of the Gundrak raid (supposedly the huge citadel) hinting a boss that's suppose to be in it.
damn.. i was so excited to get into that final building all the way on top of gun'drak when i leveled my first character there just to find out nothing would ever be there... they should just do an expansion where they wrap up every little story they cut out at some point
Heh, I've been wondering about this thing for a while too. Shame we'll probably never find out what it's meant to be though.
Why is it mystery, its the Hakkar's skin texture on the tail.
Its was probably meant to be Hakkar 2.0 in Wrath, the dev team told an artist to add the model of the tail. Then after the artist put it in, the team complete forgot/abandoned the idea. Then recycled it for the Zul'Grub revamp or forgot they already came up with this idea, thought how smart they were and instead of sorta Hakkar 2.0, literally Hakkar 2.0.
RIP Hayven :(
I think it's just a snake skin
there were dead snake bones in the dungeon, the trolls probably just hung it there to look cool, and there's a draft there that keeps it hovering
Goodnight, Guardian of the Light.
I hope one day if they do a Bolvar expansion we go back to an updated Northrend which has changed over the years.
Where we will see the huge Nerubian zone and have a Gundrak raid plus whatever else.
I wouldn't mind doing Wrath all over again ;P
That will be expansion no. 12 i think. I mean, think about it, they reused Draenor in a way, they brough back Illidan and Gul'dan, they brough back the legion, i mean yeah this is not TBC but another burning legion themed xpac. In cata pretty much they re-did the vanilla content so most everything from 1 to 60 were new again (and it failed like new-coke but hey, they tried) So most likely they will bring back the undead theme with Northrend 2.0, maybe this time we get that underground AN zone, the Gundrak raid, another titan raid, Naxxramaxs 3.0, Wrathion bussines with the leftovers of the black dragon sanctum, they already brough back Ulduar in Legion, so that place can be like our base of operations, so we can commune with the sleeping titan spirit and i see they could use that as an excuse for one of those "imbue your armor with the power of the titans" gear up scheme, and finaly they could make tuskar and wolvar playable races.
That would be so awesome, do you think Bolvar will cause the scourge to be fiery? like he did to the helm of domination?
Well, im sure they will do reflect some changes. But can't just be all on fire, after all are undeads. Bolvar is an exceptional case cause he turned that way due to the breath of alextraza in his body infected by the plague. In Legion we go to Icecrown and the whole place turned even more frosty. BUT if you don't mind me to spoil you - One of the artifact weapons, makes us fight against an Undead fire mage, and she calls down some fiery undead, like fiery vyrkul skelents, a fiery version of the dogs before Putricide and her biggest minion is a fiery version of Lord Marrowgar, the first boss in ICC RAID.
Oh wow, that is amazing!
The tail kinda has the same color as Harkkars tail.
(Harkkar, i dont know if i am spelling that right, was the final boss in Zul´gurub up to cataclysm where Zul´gurub was chanced to a dungeon and Harkkar was deleted from the instance and replaced with Jin´zo The Godbreaker as the final boss, btw rest in peace Hayven i will miss you so much) :(
Wrath seemed to have a tremendous amount of content cut and we were given trials of the crusader as an excuse. Maybe a p-server will elaborate and try to make some custom content to make it a proper expansion.
Totally forgot about this snake. Even thought I just did Gul'drak in timewalking! I like to think it's just a Loa/Wild God thing that's randomly there.
Probably being optimistic but it does leave options to use it in the future.
I actually thought it was a reference to Hakkar the Soulflayer, the colour scheme is very similar. Also, the whole Gundrak raid thing, wasn't it like a lot of things and just cut content? Cause then the 'preview' would make sense. They did it with the Throne of the Tides, where they left Neptulon's story unfinished since they never released the Abyssal Maw.
In all seriousness though, I always thought it was just a reference to Hakkar, since the trolls in Zul'Gurub worshipped him and it is a troll dungeon (albeit a different type of troll, but trolls nontheless lol). Love your videos man :D
Liked, i found this really interesting!
I can see them almost making a gundrak raid. there has been troll based end game in vanilla tbc cata and mop
maybe they decided to give the trolls a break last minute
Keep up the good work man
Mystery solved then. Thanks for the clarification (:
The color of the snakes scales seems to be the same as Hakkar