Star Trek: The Next Generation Starship Filming Model!
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- Star Trek fans may recognize this starship as an Ambassador class design, first appearing in Star Trek: The Next Generation as the USS Enterprise 1701-C! Propstore's Stephen Lane explains how it was first made and then later rebuilt by legendary modelmaker Greg Jein, with this model serving as several different Ambassador class ships that appeared throughout 90s-era Star Trek.
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I know you love Trek and scratch-built models, so I'll throw a name at you, someone whose work you should check out if you haven't already: Bill Krause. His "Tycho Shipyards" line of Starfleet vessels is utterly amazing. Some of them have recently been featured in ST:D.
This needs to go to Adam's mates with the CT scanner . . . .
I would relight it using fiber optics, that way there is only one central light source
@@marvindebot3264 it has been scanned. You can get an Eaglemoss. I want a show based on this ship.
One of the best ships ever .
I grew up a fan of TNG. Seeing that the Ambassador Class model is still holding up well after 30+ years shows how much care Greg Jein really put into building this model, I hope that one day someone will figure out how to convert her to LEDs so that she can be displayed in her full glory.
Same!!
I had no idea that this was the second Ambassador-class model. I assumed that they re-used the Enterprise-C but I wondered why the nacelle pylons looked shorter.
@@ragingsithmaster same.
I liked the Probert design better but Sternbach told me they had to make changes to save time and money. Round is easier to make than oval.
you said it.. for real
Okay, if anyone reading this is buying that ship: Let Adam redo the lighting and allow him to film this for Tested, please!
Yes! Give me the money to buy this and I’ll _absolutely_ get it filmed by Adam and others! 😁
Yes! Please!
As if he ain't the one buying it haha
I dunno Adam is a little anxious to be working on that thing lol
Getting in to work on the lighting would also be a way to discover if it has any artifacts from the Enterprise-C, because I have always understood parts of this at least were from the Enterprise-C build and Greg did extensive rebuilding to make it the Yamaguchi/Zhukov/Excalibur as seen in subsequent episodes.
When I saw this I yelled out "Enterprise C!!" To hear the history that this was NOT the C, but the same type of Ambassador class starship was fascinating.
BUT even more so, the revelation that Greg Jein did not detail them up close as there was no need for that level of detail for what would be visible on tv screen of the day... well, that just blew my mind.
Thanks Adam and thank Propstore. If I win the lotto tonight, this and the Superman suit and mannequin are must-buys for me.
I worked on the one used for Yesterdays Enterprise. The armature is aluminum plate cut and welded.
Thanks for the armature tip. My mockup of my spacecraft is 1/2" pipe and wood socket through the c/l. I may have to rethink this.
Always liked The Enterprise C hybrid look between two era's in Star Trek history. Really hope we someday get a series dedicated to it!
If you like that look, you should check out the original Probert design. It unfortunately didn't get made due to scheduling constraints and budget, but Eaglemoss made a model of it and it's quite stunning!
@@Sky_Guy Just looked it up! Has a very excelsior bottom half design!
I also like the hybrid look, so much that I'm thinking of building a ship with the same style with the Reliant-type layout. I'm also thinking of doing the Reliant-type thing with one of my spare Ent-B kits, turning the oversize impulse housings into the shuttlebays.
@@cyril-rr2jk What are your models made out of? 3d printing?
@@Sky_Guy To me, the Narendra-class (as it's called in STO) looks more futuristic than the Galaxy-class. Yes it's cooler, and it's cool we see a half-bust of it in the Ready Room sometimes, but it doesn't look like a step between the Excelsior- and Galaxy-classes the way the Ambassador does.
It's also interesting to see how the Cryptic design team has 'updated' some of the older designs for a 25th century Starfleet in the game, as well as adding some new designs. I'm especially fond of the Manticore-class.
The ambassador class is such a lovely ship. It's a shame they didn't use it more often. I love how it's such a perfect in-between for the Galaxy and the Excelsior. It has phaser strips instead of the specific phaser points, but they are still directional instead of going all the way around the saucer. A very well designed ship.
to me its the perfect kitbash between the A, B and D series. The main hull is Enterprise A and works so well with the Excelsior Neck
Yes, the design is genius. They did such an amazing job creating something that looks like a legitimate transition point between B and D.
As a total sci-fi ship nerd, I LOVE the design of the neck on this ship.
I also love the obvious evolution from the ambassador to galaxy class with this model.
TNG, DS9, and Voyager all did a really good job of keeping ship continuity. It made sense as each new (or intermediate) class of ship was revealed, like they all fit into a logical evolution. Enterprise had a great ship design but it felt out of place as a pre-TOS ship. It looked more advanced than even the Constitution class refit or Excelsior (one of my favorites, BTW).
@@ssvis2 thats because Berman and Braga decided to digitally modify an the existing Akira-class design from First Contact instead of create a true pre TOS primative starship. Maybe they did that to save time and money, but it stands out as one of the worst ship design continuities in Trek history. At least the new shows are trying to be a bit more true to canon.
@@ssvis2 If you look up nx01 refit, it looks much better with the secondary hull. This model was retconned into cannon if you take the Picard series as part of the prime universe.
@@patreekotime4578 Wow, that explains a lot. I like the Akira class, and can kind of see its DNA in the NX-01
@@LondonRook Very cool. I'll have to check it out.
I'd like to thank Adam for living out all of our dreams.
The Ambassador Class is my favorite ST ship of all time. The blue accents from the TOS movie era are just perfect. It has the nacelles of the Galaxy, saucer of the Excelsior, and main hull of the TOS Enterprise refit. All my favorite design elements. Just a freaking gorgeous model and ship.
It’s ok I guess but it’s no X-wing.
The Ambassador Class ship was always one of my favorites and I wish we could have seen it more than twice in TNG.
Agreed, I would have loved to see more of this ship class.
Heresy I know, but I like it more than the Galaxy Class.
It was in DS9 a couple of times as well
100% agree. I wish we could get a short series about the enterprise C. Such a good ship
What episode of TNG, besides "Yesterday's Enterprise ", did we see the Ambassador Class? I know in "Conspiracy" they mentioned an Ambassador Class ship, but they never actually showed it. And maybe there was debris of one in another episode. But did we ever see an intact Ambassador Class other than in Yesterday's Enterprise?
Ambassador class is really underrated. It had to bridge the TOS era and TNG era.
Also, it’s so wild seeing the difference between the detail for this vs something modern like the Razorcrest. That hi-res really forced them to scale up the detail
This model was 3 ships: The Excalibur, the Yamaguchi and the Zhukov. The Enterprise-C model was separate model and exists somewhere in someones private collection.
I love these interviews with Stephan Lane. He's so knowledgeable and personable.
I love how a simple handheld camera in this video can create some great cinematic views of the prop - it really speaks to the brilliant design.
That was an awesome video! Great to see the Ambassador class getting some recognition. I would totally watch a whole series of Adam refitting the Excalibur with updated LEDs.
Ah the ExCal... Mac Calhoun's ship from Star Trek New Frontier
The joy Adam brings to everything is a treasure
I cannot even fathom the number of hours I spent watching TNG growing up. So so so amazing to see this presented. Thank you to the Prop Store and you all are Tested!
Thank you so much for showing us this one! It’s been in the back of the other videos and it always drew my attention. So amazing to see it so close and that it’s in such great shape after so much time.
Oh excellent glad you guys made a video on this! Such a cool model from one of the all time best trek episodes
I would love to see the Tested team collaborate to make their own interpretation of putting together such a model. The team is super talented in this area especially and coming together for something like this would be an amazing treat. Especially on something as iconic as a ship from Star Trek.
This was an absolute treat to watch. Thank you to all involved in the production.
I produce a VERY low-end sci fi dramedy and the day I received a fan letter from Mr. Greg Jein is still the geek highlight for me. I have bene reading about him since the late 70s and have always loved his work. His letters were very warm and gracious, and it was a true honor to send him model kits from the same molds as our filming model for his collection.
What a beauty! Love how it was designed to bridge 3 different existing Enterprise designs (Ent-Nil, -B, and -D) and creates something all its own.
Jein was truly a master at work and will be missed.
The C is literally just an A and D mashup and I love that. One of Star Treks coolest spaceships. Great video!
I am truly saddened and sorry to hear about Greg Jein's passing. He was a funny, talented and a giving guy. I first met Greg in 1973 when I was 15 at a Star Trek Convention in L.A. where he was exhibiting one of his 'DOMES' from my all-time favorite film, (and the reason I would later become a produced screenwriter and award-winning commercial director) ... thanks to Douglas Trumbull's 'SILENT RUNNING.' (1971)
Greg and I had a long yak about the creation of the shooting prop, 'THE U.S.S. VALLEY FORGE' and to my eternal blessing about a week later -- Greg sent me two of the tiny greeblies that had fallen off the original 25-foot model that had been stored in Doug Trumbull's garage post-film.
In 1981, I was 22 ... Greg kindly invited me down from San Francisco to the efx stage (the old original Star Trek's HOWARD ANDERSON COMPANY) for Francis Coppola's 'ONE FROM THE HEART' …
I got to watch for several hours many of his models and moving backgrounds for the background plates for some desert car shots. He then invited me to a great lunch with the filming model crew at some burger joint nearby.
Greg Jein made a difference to many ... and to this day, myself at 64 ... still does.
Rest easy, good Greg. It was a pleasure and an honor to even slightly know you ever so long ago.
D.A.
What an amazing piece! I recently visited the Smithsonian Aerospace Musuem and the first thing you see when you walk in is The Enterprise. I knew I was gonna love that place, but seeing that solidified it instantly.
Would be really interesting to X-Ray this particular model and see the armature and wiring!
Damn, that is a gorgeous model. And the closeups show just how lovingly this was personally crafted by hand.
It's amazing how much texture it appears to have from paint, scratches and stickers.
Which is pretty much the main reason why we don't use miniature models in film anymore. In high definition all of those tool marks become visible, and ruin the effect. That and how difficult miniatures are to work with is why they were phased out, as charming as they are.
As a massive TNG fan who still watches it often this is fantastic to see this awesome ship being so respected and looked after 😭 I think I speak for many when I acknowledge the impact this awesome show and its ship had in our lives. 😍
Loving these prop videos. Nothing quite like Adam’s true excitement for some film / tv memorabilia.
So glad you're enjoying them. We shot a LOT that day, and were worried people would be sick of them by the time we got through them! (Still a few more to come.)
I love the Ambassador, and I have long dreamed of seeing one of these models in person! Thank you for getting us so close.
I love this. I was lucky enough to meet Greg a couple of times, through a mutual friend. The first time, he was on his lunch break from ILM and he pulled one of the little bots from Batteries Not Included from his overall pocket, and we were so psyched to see it! He was a really good guy and I'm sad to hear that we lost him earlier this year.
Love this! The Ambassador Class is one of my personal favorites! Thank you for sharing this!
The Ambassador Class has always been my favorite. Thank you for letting us see one.
The Ambassador class was one of my early favorites. So glad to see that this filming model is not only still around but hasn't been beat up too badly from handling and going from collection to collection. This, The revised Nebula class, and the Excelsior class refit (Enterprise-B, Lakota, etc.) are my top 3 TNG universe federation models.
I never graduated to the esteemed ranks of Cinefex reader, but I've really admired Greg's work ever since seeing pictures of him and other famed modellers plying their craft in Starlog, Fantastic Films, Fantasy Modeller, and other related magazines of the late '70s and early '80s. He did amazing work!
RIP, Greg.
Cinefex ... *tears*
Great to see this model close up. It really looks great from just a few feet away. Thanks for this interesting video!
It's unthinkable for me to even fathom the thought of getting a movie prop some day, let alone being able to afford to bid one. Really appreciate you guys for the opportunity for me to even have a little peek into the world of props and the market for them. This is collecting on another level.
Just keep in mind that these pieces profiled by Tested are at the highest end of the collecting hobby, as are most of the live-auction lots. If you can afford to one day spend 100-200, and have the patience to search out and wait for the right deal to come along, you can still get something pretty cool.
@@ebbyjones3177 thanks for the encouragement..until that day comes, it's just Lego for me!
I love how nearly all the shots here of the ship done by Adam's Cameraman are starship money shot passes.. I see what you did there, camera person :)
I’ve always been in awe of this ship. When it showed up in Star Trek Online I was psyched. Running across the gangplank connected to the neck, taking disrupter fire from Romulans, I stood looking out the windows up at the nacelles and saucer and down and the engineering hull. My most memorable moment from that game.
I enjoyed that mission, first time in the temporal shift genuinely was a surprise.
I saw the 1701-B Excelsior class filming model in an exhibition up close, and these models are truly a work of art, perfection into the finest detail. The paint job alone was mesmerizing to see, as it accurately recreated the hull plating, with each plate reflecting light in a different way in relation to the direction you looked at it. You can film these in 4K and put it up on the biggest cinema screen and they look as real as it can get.
Also the stickers are Avery labels. We used a bunch on the patterns for the Enterpise E in addition to doing the frisket / primer build up for the aztec plating .
Yes! I was hoping they'd cover the Ambassador-class model we've been seeing in the background of the series. The story I always heard was that the original model was broken by a stage hand but was repaired for later appearances, then retired and not rebuilt in CG.
I wonder if they will also make a Video about the Leia's infamous Slave Bikini, that is showing up in the background for a couple of episodes.
@@Craftlngo last convention I went to during the cosplay contest one of the contestants dressed in that and they called it Jaba Slayer
@@ian0921 I've heard that name too. IIRC is this the name Lucas prefered. But Slave Bikini is likely to be more known in the community.
What a splendid model- Yes, a masterwork of knowing exactly what is needed to sell the whole!
*SCREAMS IN ULTRA TREKKIE* I grew up on TNG and this is an absolutely beautiful model.
I almost did a spit take when they made Worf a pacifist for the next Picard season!
@@johnbernhardtsen3008 shut up
I think honestly the Ambassador Class is my favorite starship class in Trek. Despite not being the original design, and being the product of time and budget constraints, I think it turned out *so* beautiful.
Seeing a Next Gen era ship like that really brings back some solid nostalgia for me. Especially that ship type/class (Ambassador).
I am so jealous for whoever wins this piece. It belongs in a museum.
i wish you'd had the chance to do an episode for the Refit Enterprise/Enterprise-A. That is still a beauty.
I'm a huge fan of these pre-CGI star ship models. They inspired a generation of us to go out and study aerospace engineering and physics. They remind me of the models that get used in aviation to do wind tunnel testing and flight dynamics. Very cool.
I also love how the auctioneer has so much knowledge about the ship. He has done his homework.
The registry number is NCC-26510 (Yamaguchi) on the nacelles 6:36 and NCC-26517 (Excalibur) on the primary hull 6:42. Evidence that it was used for at least those two starships. Sweet!
What a beauty! We need to go back to this!
i love that ambassador class it looks so clean design
Imagine re-building the 12 foot Enterprise D with modern tech (3D printing etc) and lighting. Could be spectacular!
The lines and contours of the design is beautiful.
As someone who's currently working on collecting all the hero Trek ships in the same scale- or as close as I can get- a video like this really helps.
Not only in that it gives me great close ups of the paint and detailing I can use on mine, but it actually makes me feel better to know that even the highest-end professional modellers cut the occasional corner and still come out with stellar results.
I've been hoping this was showcased eventually after seeing it in the background of so many other Prop Store videos.
Thank you so much sir for sharing another wonderful fantastic video thanks to prop stores Stephen sir and Adam sir.
The observation that the model is a bit rough in the fine detailing at extreme close range, yet instantly gells into a convincing representation of a massive starship from just slightly farther away reminds me of nothing so much as impressionist paintings. Up close, they're literally blobs of paint that convey nothing. Yet step back a few paces and those indistinct splashes of color resolve into a cohesive image. I always marveled that the impressionist masters, laboriously apply paint just inches from the canvas, could produce that kind of result. I have to think that Greg Jein, in his own way, was no less of an impressionist master.
The Ambassador Class was instantly my favorite Federation starship design of all time. Love it! I'd love to see a show or movie based on an Ambassador design.
Love, love, love the colors.
The Yamaguchi refit of the Ambassador-class is one of my favorite non-hero ship designs, and not because of any particular appearance but because the designers and model-makers took the time, instead of simply using the same ship again, took the time to design a refit of the ship - the lowered nacelles and the cowling on the bussard collectors, the assembly in the middle of the deflector dish, and the repositioned neck and saucer connection all helps makes Starfleet's fleet feel more alive than just simply copy and pasting the same designs over and over.
For anyone wandering which exact ship this is. This is the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-C. It’s the successor to the Enterprise B seen in the opening of Star Trek Generation’s and the predecessor of the Enterprise D from TNG.
The Ambassador class ships are hands down my favourite of the Federation designs. It's just so perfectly... balanced. Like, if you asked someone to just "draw a Starfleet ship", it'd likely look just like this. Circular saucer (no oblong ovals), round nacelles and engineering section hull... and it all just sits in the right proportions. Such a joy to look at and I thoroughly enjoyed this close up look at a studio model of one - impressive how they used those stickers for the lifeboats and saved a pile of time!
Love the Ambassador Class! Great looking ship!!!
The Ambassador Class starship model seen here is the USS Excalibur. NCC-26517. Other Ambassador Class starships of this class include the Enterprise, the Zhukov, the Yamaguchi and the Horatio.
Absolutely beautiful.
what a damn good model! I would LOVE, LOVE to see a restoration of this
Before I even start a model I always ask myself, "Just how close am I going to get to this thing?" It seems Mr. Jein was a master at answering that question.
How awesome to have Adam hook up with the buyer of this and get the gig to do the lighting redo. OMG that would make for sooooooooooo many amazing (or one insane long) episodes of Tested. Shoot, you could start an entire new channel with that project. And I'd be one of the first to sign on!!!!!!!
Greg
Ok, I'll admit it, this kind of thing geeks me out too, LOL I'm a Trekkie from way back, one of the few franchises that can give me this kind of vibe in my 50's.
Seeing these details makes me feel better about my own models, although I'd never be able to create anything that gorgeous!
Oh man, I saw this in the background of your Terminator arm video and was really hoping you'd get a look at it. Love the Ambassador class.
Wow.... I always loved the Ambassador class. Very cool.👍😎
I loved this design. A great transition design between the B and D. Funny hearing Adam talk about the model's quality between being up against it and then taking a step back and it all comes together. I got that same reaction when I got to see a few matte paintings in Chicago during a VFX exhibition. One was the ROTJ rebel hanger shot and another was the Ghostbusters building. Up close it was just a mess but take a few steps back and it looked realistic.
This model was impeccably built. Nice to see that it is being well cared for.
That is my all time favorite ship. LOVE IT
i love watching these since they teach me how to build cosplay-like items...!!
Love it! I saw Adam Savage in real life at SiliCon, here in Silicon Valley, and he really is the youthful energetic jovial guy he is on camera! And I know he's really into this stuff, as we are! So him and this British guy are the right guys to look at this model and we can live vicariously through them! I would love to have a model like this, it's awesome 🙂
Let's make sure history never forgets the name: 'Enterprise'.
Makes me feel a lot better about my own starship model builds :D
This is probably my favorite version of the Enterprise.
I am looking forward to 3D Printing it in 1/200 scale.
It's an Ambassador Class Starship! The Creator of this Ship Combined Elements from the Refit Version of the Original Enterprise and the Enterprise D when Designing this Model! Pretty Interesting!
what a super cool piece
The Ambassador Class is my favorite class of Star Ship. Just a beautiful design always wished we had got a series with this class.
Just awesome!
Ohhhhh you're kidding! This is amazing! I always thought not a lot was left from those sets.
I was afraid they would ignore this model since it was from Star Trek. Great to actually see it up close.
Amazing. I as well always thought it was one model that was used as several diffrent ships including the Enterprise NCC-1701-C. I wonder what happened to the origional NCC-1701-C model that was built for “Yesterday’s Enterprise.”
I somehow missed the news of Greg Jein's passing. So, seeing this beautiful model is a bittersweet moment. Anyone who loves Star Trek - and sci fi in general - owes a great debt of gratitude to Greg for the wonderful models and props he created, bringing life to the words of the shows' writers, and filling our dreams with mechanical wonders.
I love to see these kinds of original handcrafted models close up. I feel like this design has oddly stubby nacelles for my taste, relative to the saucer section, but it still looks very cool.
One of my favorite starship designs... So clean and smooth... Looked like a logical step from the 1701-A to the 1701-E... I didn't much like the Excelsior-Class (especially the modifications made for the 1701-B) and the Galaxy-Class just had some terrible angles with that cobra-hood neck. But the Ambassador (Alaska) Class is just beautiful! :D Thanks for sharing!
Ooo, the Ambassador-class heavy cruiser :D Gotta love it
I lived in Bristol (UK) for about 20 years and there was a Sci Fi shop that had a very large model of the Enterprise D hanging in from the rafters of the shop. It looked fantastic.
@7:21 behind where the bridge unit and the top row of windows are, that section inset with all the grills on it above the shuttlebay is where the top mounting point is based on photographs of the model in action.
It's amazing to see the model detail differences. The Ambassador studio model clearly was designed on a limited budget compared to the Galaxy and Constitution class models. But you can't see that difference from a distance.
Oh this is fantastic, the ambassador class is my favourite starship design :)
It was actually made in quite a hurry, and ended up being quite different from its concept design. It was originally designed with a more oval saucer section, like the galaxy class, and a more flattened engineering hull, again like the galaxy class, but because Yesterday's Enterprise was on such a tight schedule, they rounded out those two elements to make the models easier to build. Of course whats funny about that is that very early in the show there was a wall in the observation lounge that had little gold models of all the past enterprises, including the original design of the ambassador, now made inconsistent with the appearance of this model :)
Personally I like the rounded elements. Gives the ambassador both an "old school" (ie the original series) vibe, and a lot of character compared to other ships we see in tng like the excelsior or of course the galaxy.
I always felt like classic and TNG era Trek just has such an incredibly unique design aesthetic for its ships, especially the federation vessels. They are so different than pretty much any other IP and the models are just lovely to look at.