The Excelsior was not designed in reaction to Khan's attack on the Enterprise. Star Trek III, in which the Excelsior debuts, occurs weeks or maybe a couple of months after Star Trek II. Starships take years to design and build.
Doesn't mean that they Starfleet engineers didn't think the neck on the Constitution was the weakest point and redesigned the next vessel to to have the wider, more squat neck in the Excelsior class
@@RichO1701e it was under construction about a year or more before Wrath of Khan, and was completed by the time they got back. Scotty was offered the captaincy when they arrived back 🖖🏻
In an episode of Star Trek Continues, Captain Garret's Grand-Daughter is featured. She wished to take command of the salvaged USS Hood. Unfortunately, the team led by Scotty (Chris Doohan!) is unable to successfully save the Hood before her Warp core failed. Chekov saves the away team a split second before the Hood Exploded. Scott promotes Chekhov to Full Lieutenant!
Remember what that Admiral said in the season 2 episode 'The Measure of a Man' 'For 500 years every ship called Enterprise has become a Legend this one is no different'.
Read the Lost Era novel "Serpents Among The Ruins". No spoilers, but you get to see how Captain Harriman played a vital role in an noteworthy Star Trek event that is mentioned in TNG.
I rather like the unmentioned in-universe reason for the refit nacelle swept design, which moves their internal equipment forward in the secondary hull, allowing more space in the shuttle and cargo transfer bays, which are massive in The Motion Picture.
I want to point out that the sound for the video cut out for about a minute somewhere between the 11 minute mark and the 13 minute mark. Anyway, it is very unlikely that the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-B was decommissioned, because other starships of the Excelsior class were still in service during the late 24 Century. That logically means that the Enterprise-B was very likely destroyed, instead of being decommissioned. The only reason why the Enterprise-B would have to be decommissioned is if it was so severely damaged as to be unsalvageable for repairs, otherwise it would not have been decommissioned.
The most likely cause is they've had a content ID claim put on the video after upload so they've muted the audio to appeal the claim and get control back. Some particularly nasty operators will content ID claim a video then monetise the snot out of it making it unwatchable with the amount of mid-roll ads that get run on it. An active claim means any ad-sense revenue earned goes to the claimant. It's quite the side industry going on under CZcams unfortunately 🤗
Actually, if Starfleet wanted to showcase their latest technologies in a ship built from the ground up for it, they very well could have decommissioned the B, refitting it and recommissioning it as a different ship. "You know, the Saratoga here use to be the Enterprise B? Yeah, when the Ambassador class came out, they decided to name a new Enterprise and this old girl got put back in service with a facelift and a new name." - Two Lower Decks Crewmen probably -
@@Enterprising_Aim Well, we won't really know what happens to the Enterprise-B until the writers and producers of "Star Trek" give us the officially canonical fate of the Enterprise-B. In the meantime, there's non-canonical stories in the form of official Star Trek books that specifically state that the Enterprise-B was destroyed. So I'm more inclined to believe that destruction of the Enterprise-B will eventually become the ship's official fate in canon.
as i recall the reason the enterprise-B was decommissioned was because the crew was exposed to a virus that starfleet couldn't decontaminate so they desposed for the ship instead because of this fact but i could be wrong some correct me if i'm wrong
The thinness of the connecting features on the original ship was not a weakness but was intended by the original design to convey an almost "magical" level of engineering understanding, with there being no vulnerability or weakness in a design that looks to us today like fragility. I wish anyone working on ST projects knew the original history of the original design. It's no wonder, the configuration is entirely misunderstood, too - saucer, secondary hull, distant nacelles. Subsequent design increasingly considers aesthetics instead of updated original functionality. The giant secondary impulse thrusters on the B would incinerate the nacelles. Then, the nacelles inline with the saucer blocks the Bussard collectors on the C. Silliness. Oh well.
I tottaly agree. It´s a pity theses concepts were ignored since ST II with the Reliant, since she has no deflector dish. The naceles should always work in pairs and nothing between them. This should be a golden rule.
To be fair, with no medium to transmit the heat from the expelled plasma onto the nacelles and the fact that there is indeed a structural integrity field and impulse engines are highly thrust efficient, it probably wasn't an issue in-universe on the Excelsior refits. Not enough plasma being vented and not enough heat being conducted to cause real damage. Besides, the bussard collectors are used to collecting plasma. On the C, it's a little odd I'll grant but accounting for the fact that they have 3-dimensional maneuverability and the collectors tend to work best in highly saturated spaces anyways, the C could still feasibly operate them. Especially if the collectors have some kind of "suction" effect to them, and don't simply work as ramscoops.
@9:01 Galaxy Enterprise D had another photon torpedo launcher; however it was covered and not usable when the ship was intact. Separating the saucer exposed the additional aft launcher for use from the saucer.
Imagine someone made a thing that looks cool for for the sake of looking cool and now you have to sit in front of a camera and come up with some random-ass technobabble on the spot to explain why it looks like that. Yeah, that's basically this whole video.
I love the Ambassador class, she carried both the constitution class design ethic , and the Excelsior class , it's a pity that the one depicted as the ' C' on the conference room wall of the galaxy class ship ( which never made much tactical sense , with families placed in danger ), it was to ' pc ', yet the ambassador design the Drexler eventually fleshed out, was again ( being the supposed 'C' ) was a link between the last design and the next. I would have used that for the ' D' , increasing the size to 1000m , and given it something different to a regular turbo lift, to reach each part of the ship, after all the E was heading for over half a mile long almost . But back to the design, I loved the enterprise C , the Rounded Ambassador class, ot has a design that pile would easily recognise , with the Enterprise depicted on SNW , which has clearly grown from the original ( all due to Picards crew giving Cochrane , and Dr Lilly.sloane , access to 24c tech, which more was found in the ice of Antarctica, by the science team during the second year of the nx01's voyages . This affected the timeline going forward , trek after first contact was in an altered timeline ( as confirmed aboard the USS Relativity, and told to 7 of 9, , only the Borg were named ), but safe to say that the advanced looking NX01, was a result of its co designer having seen the enterprise E, and his assistant , being on the bridge soaking up all that information on warp fields, etc etc, on the bridge displays ( a good scientist like if a NASA scientist was taken aboard a 24th century space craft, would at least recognise scientific information. Anyway it explains how pike's enterprise ends up being the same length as the D ( yep if you saw the hologram in Picard , as Picard walked into HQ and looked up , to see pikes ship , and the d a moment later , it was clear the 1701 was the same length but obviously not as filled out as the famous ' D', it explains, why it's bridge is as big as that of the D , and it's vast Turbolift system ( shown in star trek shorts ). Anyway , time travel warps the mind , but while we know it's just down to modern cgi, it's nice to give an in universe idea why subsequent ships where more advanced , perhaps the altered ' B' was a result , the huge ' C' which dwarfed the B , but as I began to say, I just wish they'd made the D exactly as drexler had made the supposed design for the ' C' , it would have been far more logical than the jump , to the D which was more like a fancy ocean liner, I mean it certainly wasn't tactically much use , it got its ass handed to it by a clapped out rouge bird of prey. And the warp core was always , overheating or ready to blow , which when you compare the beatings pikes enterprise took in SNW and even the NX01 , and the C that kept four Romulan war birds busy until the Klingons arrived , just as it's self destruct took out the remaining Romulan warbirds, while the rest fled. Every other enterprise seemed stronger . The D was just lame . The E did not look right at all, now if they had made the Prometheus class an enterprise , fitted that with a cloak and defiant class rapid fire weapons , tri cobalt torpedo's , and all the tech voyager brought back , I'd wager there would not be an F already ! And that may sound a bit silly but the E bore no design lineage to any other ship. , Probably due to its own interference at first contact . But again time travel warps the mind !. At least the Prometheus class as an enterprise, kitted out as I suggest and with cloaking tech , to show the new close ties with Romulans, might have made for some good drama , the flag ship able to split three ways . Picard might finally have got the drop on the Borg , instead of Janeway and the ugly Stargazer . Anyway just my thoughts after watching all the various trek shows . Note I left out how vast discovery was , and the fact when build time was added it was built before the Constitution class? And yet it was as long as this is cannon as the E,E ( 795m) But that's a different discussion entirely, oh and it had a shuttlebay so vast it held a huge asteroid . So what the heck happened to starfleet going back from ships like that and the Buran to the Connie?.
Man every time I see the Sovereign Class U.S.S. Enterprise I still can not believe how insanely huge the ship is as it is nearly 4 times the size of Kirk's ship it is just crazy I mean looking at the profile of the 2 ships the Constitution Class Enterprise is about half the length of the Sovereign Class Enterprise E's warp engines that is just amazing I mean can anyone imagine what it would have been like for Starfleet if they built ships like the Sovereign Class during Kirk's time Starfleet would really have been a major power to contend with.
@@thethirdchimpanzee Hey you forgot the Galaxy Class Starship measures in at 642.51 meters in length,measures in at 487.92 meters wide,measures in at 190 meters in height and weighs in at 4,5,00,000 metric tons while the Sovereign Class measures in nearly 700 meters long but weighs in over 3,500,000 metric tons so remember the Galaxy Class was built with families in mind till the Dominion War while the Sovereign Class was built with one thing in mind and that was to fight the Borg like the Akira,Saber,Norway,SteamRunner and the Defiant Classes.
@@Demobot1 Picard Season 3, your wish has been granted. Well almost. Star Trek Online's Odyssey class Enterprise-F will be officially canonized next year as the new Enterprise. She's 1061 meters long, 147 meters tall, and 371 meters wide, grossing 6.62 Million Metric Tons....yeah she's a big girl. With a crew of 1600-2500 she's legit bigger than the Galaxy. Not quite Imperial class size, but getting closer. I bid thee farewell.
I always thought the Enterprise D looked like a big Bobble Head version of the sleek and powerful Constitution refit (The most beautiful enterprise imho), followed closely by the Sovereign Class Enterprise (also beautiful)
Enterprise D was literally an unfinished, initial, rough sketch that Probert drew on a napkin or piece of paper and a studio exec grabbed it and they ran with it...It was unfinished and it looks silly, impractical like a slug or snail...not a starship
Absolutely! I had little use for what I called The Pepsi Generation (old Pepsi slogan from the 80s "cola wars") and loathed the D model. I called it the ruptured duck.
The refit movie Enterprise is by far the best looking of all StarTrek ships. Looks even better than the TOS original. Scientific reseach has proven this to be objectively correct.
1:40 This constitution class enterprise had a bottle of sorian Brandy on every shelf. After refit, it was the biggest bootlegger of romulan ale of all other starships in the federation.
When I was at UD in the late 80s/early 90s, a package store in Elkton, Md had this dirt cheap booze- one orange, one bright electric blue. Of course, we called it Saurian Brandy and Romulan Ale. When you unscrewed the cap, a dry-ice fog like smoke came out and fell down over your hand. Good stuff. $1 per quart in 1988.
One thing I had always wondered about after all these years with Kirk's Enterprise ever since seeing reruns of the T.O.S. series who was it that came up with naming the ship class the Constitution Class.
i feel like "larger" or "smaller" aren't the correct words it's thinner but longer i'd say they're about the same in terms of size then again there are many other issues i have with this video that i fear most people would fine irrelevant
@@lordorion5776 The Ent D has more mass, has a larger crew capacity (over 1000). It IS a bigger ship by all authentic sources. The Ent E was specifically designed to be sleeker, more manuverable and much more tactically leaning,. It has a crew capacity over 700 but less than 800.
@@borg111 i would disparage the idea of using crew size as a determining factor for the size of a ship as automation or improvements in ship design can (and usually do) lead to slightly larger ships with much smaller crews and "by all authentic sources" screams to me "by all sources I like" i could be wrong but what sources are you sighting i admit for me it's not much more then inferences based off what i see on screen and i played STO so not great sources there so i'll spend some time looking things up
@@borg111 also like i said larger or smaller are poor metrics for comparing ships i think we can both agree the Sov was a better warship based of it's combat capabilities
@@lordorion5776 Poor compare metrics? I disagree. It depends what one is comparing. The Sov is a better fighter, no question. When it comes to exploration, the Galaxy is way better due to its crew size and overall capacity to carry supplies for an extended amount of time. Less trips between Starbases as it was mentioned in an early TNG episode. Size does matter. During wartime I agree that a Sov is the better ship to fight with.
There was another Enterprise before NX-01, you can see it on various displays of past Starship Enterprise's and on the wall of Picards office along with the other models of past Enterprise's. It looks kind of like the ship from 2001: A Space Odyssey, bulbous forward command section with a narrow shaft-like body with two large rings in the back, I think it was a warp 2 passenger liner used about 20 years before NX-01 was launched, according to semi-canon sources. It was actually one of the early designs for the original series ship, rejected and replaced by the more famous 1701 design, and added later as a precursor to 1701.
The XCV 330. It was an experimental ship with humans trying to make Vulcan ring ships. It probably could make Warp 2 at best, but humans decided to go in the nacelle direction.
@@adamlewellen5081 Real world, there were 7 Enterprise's in the US Navy (a sloop, two schooners, a steam-powered sloop of war, a motorboat, and two aircraft Carriers, one of which was the first Nuclear powered Carrier) along with an 8th currently under construction (Gerald Ford-class Carrier, CVN-80), as well as 6 noted civilian ships, three air/space ships, and a US Navy Training Facility. The British also had 14 Enterprises in their Navy and 4 civilian ships.
Yes, XCV-330 was it's registery. My head cannon speculates that it's design was functionally like the TMP warp sled, with it's long narrow neck being the attachment point for various mission specific modules wherein are contained crew and passenger accomodatons, cargo holds etc. The neck being the primary access corridor to all modules stacked radially outward in all directions but containd within the diameter of the warp rings. All together a design and propulsion advancement from the DY-100. Being capable of faster than light travel, I read it's registery as standing for eXo (beyond) light speed (C) Vehicle.
I am not ashamed to admit that I too was chocked up when I saw this video. Enterprise has always been amazing to look at. But when I saw then end and what the possible future Enterprise could look like I was could not believe how cool it looks Only Discovery looks even close to being so futuristic.
Like I mentioned in a previous comment for when the 3rd season of Star Trek:Picard when we were introduced to the Neo Constitution Class where it mentioned that said class had a redesigned neck structure that was made stronger and reinforced it indicates that Starfleet finally did something about that design flaw that put the Constitution Refit Class into mothballs in the first place.
It's already been established that the Constitution class enterprise was the flagship of the Federation, and NX-01 was also the flagship of Starfleet so it didn't 'become' a flagship
Yeah it has one on the port side of the Saucer Section,one right behind the main bridge,one on both sides of the photon torpedo bay and one on both sides of the secondary hull like the one we saw Kirk and Scotty dock at in the Motion Picture.
I don't understand why they would call the Enterprise A a renamed old Constitution Refit Class Starship as it was originally called the U.S.S. Yorktown NCC-1717 as seen in the video of what Starfleet did during the Whale Probe incident the only other problem is it said in said video the Yorktown was a newly constructed ship fresh out of the Shipyards and was going on a shakedown cruise when it encountered the probe and as the narrator said the ship was renamed the Enterprise and was built with a whole slew of brand new technologies that the original Enterprise never had including being fitted with the first new warp core similar to what we saw on both the Galaxy and Sovereign Class Starships what was called a Pulse Warp Core.
@@Barbariandisks You should watch a video of what Starfleet most likely did during the encounter with the whale probe in Star Trek 4:The Voyage Home it was right after an Oberth Class Starship encountered the probe it showed a newly commissioned Constitution Refit Class Starship called the U.S.S. Yorktown NCC-1717 that encountered the probe and lost all power and remember that scene where Admiral Cartwright asked one of his officers 'Get Me the Yorktown' and they brought up on the screen the captain of the Yorktown so what we saw in that scene most likely really happened we may never know but it's possible.
Still bugs me how bad the Enterprise D gets punked out. The ship had enough fire power to make the Borg take notice, but gets 2 shot by an outdated bird of prey. Galaxy class really was the glass jaw of starfleet.
@@tarron3237 Yes and no, its is just a writing oversight, but people have seen it with enough regularity that they actually have a good theory. Its a simply design flaw in that the Galaxy class has systems that are more powerful than what the actual specs of the ship were designed for, so when the ship starting taking damage it actually has a pretty high chance of overloading the systems which causes them to well...blow up. Hense why it seems like it doesnt take alot of actual damage to causes the warp core to instantly go critical.
Man this is one awesome video tribute to one of the greatest Starships in the history of the United Federation of Planets going all the way back to United Earth with the very first Starship Enterprise NX-01 under the command of Captain Johnathan Archer going all the way to the Sovereign Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-E under the command of Captain Jean-Luc Picard great work to the guys who made this video of a great grey old lady who has become a living legend and in the words of Captain Picard 'Let's Make Sure History Never Forgets the Name Enterprise' and in the famous words of Captain Spock 'SPACE THE FINAL FRONTIER THESE ARE THE VOYAGES OF THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE HER ONGOING MISSION TO EXPLORE STRANGE NEW WORLDS TO SEEK OUT NEW LIFE AND NEW CIVILIZATIONS TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN WHERE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE' LONG LIVE THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE.
And it has it’s the most famous name a ship can recive from the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier to the sovereign class now the odessy class captained by the finest there have been (not the b and c)
@@aditya3127 Well remember the Enterprise B was responsible for mapping over 142 Star systems and making first contact with 17 civilizations while the Enterprise C was responsible for the alliance with the Klingon Empire after the ship and her crew sacrificed themselves to protect the Klingon outpost on Nerendra 3 when it came under attack by 4 Romulan WarBirds.
ncc-1701, if you go by what was said in the original series and cartoon series, was actually over thirty years old when destroyed. 5 years under captain april, at least 10 under pike, 10 under kirk(5 before refit, 5 after), plus several more as a training ship.
Actually your math is a bit off as it was stated that the Constitution Class came into service in the 2240's and the Enterprise was commissioned in 2245 so by the events of the Genesis Planet the Enterprise was well over 40 years old not 20 as that Starfleet Admiral mentioned when he was talking to Kirk in the Enterprise's torpedo bay.
As a teenager, I wrote a Star Trek novel to refute to "total destruction" of the original Enterprise. I had a secret intelligence unit that tractors the bulk of the Enterprise clear so only the burning primary hull falls and burns up. A quick rebuild and this " off the books" starship gets used for covert ops, ending with the capture of a new Klingon dreadnaught. It ends with this upgraded Enterprise -A being turned over to Kirk, re the end of STIII. Kirk never knows my guy borrowed his baby...😂 PS: when Deep Space 9 brought out the "Section 31" story arc, I thought I'd been ripped off again! 😊
I find it hilarious that the host keeps using the word "aerodynamic" when it doesn't even matter in space. I'll give it to him if it meant that these ships were built on Earth and had to get to space. However, all of these ships were built in a drydock and they were never meant to land on a planet. They had shuttles for away missions onto a planet's surface.
Spacio-dynamic, not aerodynamic, lol. When TNG was first about to premiere, in an episode of the Star Trek Communicator Magazine, I believe that Probert or Roddenberry said that by the 24th century, Federation materials and design technology had gotten to the point where designers were free to consider aesthetics into ship design, they weren't just limited to form being a slave to pure function. But starships could also be "a work of art" (hah, I'll be Probert was the one who said this, lol, of *his own work*!) Whatever, it is a good in-universe explaination as to why the ships seemed designed to "look pretty"! Of course, there are also the claims of "warp field dynamics" requiring a saucer shape and an aerodynamic - really, spacial-dynamic - streamlined shape...at least according to all the tech manuals - but then we see so many other ships that contradict this. I mean the Borg literally fly around in a GIANT BOX!!! Of course, the saucer IS designed to be specifically, *literally* aerodynamic...in *air*...so that it can glide to a controlled crash landing on a planet, like in "Generations". They are also supposed to be able to manipulate shape of the force fields and shields around the saucer to make it more wing-like, and give it lift. I get the idea that in "Generations", a lot of systems were damaged and without power...so hence the crash. And in "Beyond" there was NO pilot...and the saucer was full of holes...but still, if did a good job kinda gliding. (In the Prime Universe 1701 original TOS version and the Refit had that curve to the underside of the saucer, supposedly to also help it act like a wing and glide down.)
Another thing I found funny about the Star Trek Universe isn't it funny that every Enterprise seen has been every class of Starship seen from the NX Class to 2 ships of the Constitution Class to one variant of the Excelsior Class to one of the Ambassador Class to the third ship of the Galaxy Class to the Sovereign Class man that was really interesting to see.
Long overdue! The true story of the Enterprise. Glad somebody finally did it, and did it right! However I do have to agree with some of the other comments. Aerodynamic? Really? Last I checked there was no air in space haha! But at least the progression and the music was fun to watch. And once again it's really nice to see the history of this hugely iconic ship!
Well this is seems to be about John eaves explaining the evolution of the design of each enterprise and how he thinks it fits in the lore, nothing much more
When the preview for Yesterday's Enterprise was shown, I was excited that we'd finally get to see, not only the ship that we had been seeing on the conference room wall (thus making it canonical) in all her visual glory, but that we would finally have a new addition to the Fleet that wasn't a TMP era (of which I love, don't get me wrong) wessels. One can then understand that it was a bit jarring to my 14-year-old brain the levels of incongruency that occurred upon seeing what came through that Spatial Anomaly. Whilst I can understand the limits of production needs, and time constraints that resulted in the simple shapes C that we got, it showed a severe lack of forethought that the rabid bunch that we Trek fans can be might just want a continuity vessel that links the 70 odd years between the old and new. It didn't need to be overly detailed, requiring just a 2' model for its potential cameo appearances. Said model might probably have sufficed for the NCC-1701-C, and if not, then a larger one could have been made with likely intentions for future use. As you can tell I'm pretty salty about this subject, but it's for a good reason given that the C we got literally broke lineage. To make the C that we see on the conference room wall, Andrew Probert took profile pictures of the Excelsior & Galaxy classes and placed them above and below his drawing board. He then began to blend aspects of both ships so that a connection between them would be readily apparent. This fact alone makes my nerdy heart ache that this man, whose contributions to Trek are numerous, never got to see his creation onscreen. SMH.
Like I mentioned in a previous comment when Star Trek 3:The Search for Spock came out in theatres and everyone in the audience watched the Enterprise blow up like that there most likely wasn't a single dry eye in the whole theatre as everyone who had seen the series grew up with that ship and another thing with the Nexus Energy ribbon encounter I cannot explain how they thought Kirk knew about the thing as remember what Chekov said when they first saw it 'What the Hell is That?' because apparently the original crew of the original Enterprise had never encountered something like the Nexus before during they're voyages and the Excelsior Refit Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-B and her crew were the first in Starfleet to encounter it.
1: Learn how to talk in normal sentences 2: Scotty was the one who figured out the ribbon. Remember he was always a miracle worker which meant he was never phased by a task. He was a mechanical and theoretical genius. Edit: 3: I never shed a tear. I rewind to watch the 1701 blow up over and over again because its ugly as hell and so is the A.
@@redwren4182 No Scotty figured out how to free the ship from the Ribbon by reconfiguring the main deflector dish to simulate a torpedo blast as the Enterprise B didn't have any torpedoes onboard till the following Tuesday and if I remember correctly Data stated that the ribbon passes through the system every 57 years or something like that so the crew of the original Enterprise never encountered the thing till that day.
@@3Rayfire they're too similar not to get mixed up. My favourite ship is the Enterprise F, but refit with STO's Yorktown deflector and seen in comics thanks to STO. Its great to see alpha canon ships come out of an MMO 😎
Yeah I really hated the sound cutting off near the end right up till the scene where they show the Enterprise E firing it's quantum torpedoes towards a Borg Cube the sound comes back on right after impact.
The Enterprise-D is by some way my favourite. The E is considerably smaller than the D. While it's longer, it encloses much, much less internal volume.
Unfortunately, that never made cannon. IIRC Gene himself said that the refit was a Constitution class. Since he made that statement, it made it cannon. Beta cannon shows all ships from the Enterprise-A onward were known as the Enterprise subclass of the Constitution class.
Yeah that's true but remember what Will Riker said to Dr. Cochrane in Star Trek:First Contact of how that Vulcan survey ship picked up the warp signature of the Phoenix and stated that the Vulcans discovered that humans had discovered the ability to travel faster than light even though it was never mentioned exactly how fast the Phoenix was going when she broke the warp barrier and remember in the Star Trek Voyager season 2 episode 'The 37's' where Tom Paris was talking with Amelia Earhart when she asked how fast Voyager was and Tom answered 'Warp 9.997 in your terms that's about 4 Billion Miles a Second' and it was funny what her reaction was to that with the look on her face it was like 'No Way Get out of Here' now that was funny.
Flying saucers and jets were very popular in the sixties so the guys who created the enterprise combine the two by putting jet engines on a flying saucer. How creative..
The inheritors of TOS are unworthy of the legacy. There was logic to the design of the original Enterprise: The 1960s imagineers knew about magneto-hydrodynamics (MHD): the saucers were, by themselves, MHD starships (this is why main engineering, and the main reactor, is on the back of the saucer); impulse was an inefficient FTL MHD technology; the saucers landed on planets (originally no transporters) - again there was a practical reason the TOS Enterprise was a saucer (think Forbidden planet). The entire secondary hull assembly was to “augment” the saucer with the much more powerful and efficient Warp drive. The “warp field” (I’m not going into that but there was some credible pseudoscience in that concept too) was created between the two nacelles. This was a no man’s land of distorted space. Warp drives required two and only two nacelles and a no man’s land between them - no one nacelle starships, no 3 or 4: 2 and only 2! The saucer MHD “impulse” drive had to be aligned in the warp stream to provide the thrust. The “neck” had two functions: 1) to couple the saucer to the warp assembly in precisely the correct position and to transport plasma from the main reactor (in the saucer) to the nacelles. This absurd notion that this is somehow vulnerable is rooted in 20th century thinking where mass and density are armor. TOS lives in a world of energy weapons and and fields. In 20th century terms, putting the bridge on the top of the saucer is “vulnerable”: in TOS, putting the bridge on the top of the saucer allowed it to have an additional deflector shield supplementing the main shield (making it the hardest point on the ship). It’s sad to see simple minds reduce TOS to a cargo cult.
Really not sure why they said the E was larger then the D... that was an incorrect statement. The E was longer than the D, but D had was still larger overall. Wider, taller, more livable space....
Thankfully there is no Enterprise after the E, cause the Sovereign class is a work of art and any ship they'd come up with after it would undoubtedly look like crap in comparison
John Eaves is one of the all time greats as far as designing ships and stuff for Trek, but hosting/narrating this was a bit out of his wheelhouse. Still a fun watch though
When the Romulan Type-B Warbird was revealed the design of the Galaxy and Type-B were at par. Starfleet then creates the Sovereign class. Unfortunately the Romulans one up Starfleet by creating the Scimitar. In addition, the sovereign was obsolete compared to the Jem'Hadar heavy battle cruiser during the Dominion War. The Jem'Hemdar polaron weapon systems tore apart older Starfleet vessels especially the Galaxy class.
Well technically, the Scimitar was made by Remans and not Romulans. And according to canon, the Sovereign Class was designed ( like the Defiant ) to battle the Borg and not the Dominion.
It started out as a sailing ship in the Royal Navy... Then the US Navy appropriated the name for a number of its ships ... Then NASA showed its forceful side by bowing to popular demand and renaming its first reusable craft...
The Excelsior was not designed in reaction to Khan's attack on the Enterprise. Star Trek III, in which the Excelsior debuts, occurs weeks or maybe a couple of months after Star Trek II. Starships take years to design and build.
Doesn't mean that they Starfleet engineers didn't think the neck on the Constitution was the weakest point and redesigned the next vessel to to have the wider, more squat neck in the Excelsior class
@@RichO1701e it was under construction about a year or more before Wrath of Khan, and was completed by the time they got back. Scotty was offered the captaincy when they arrived back 🖖🏻
they never said that, they said improvements if they attack carryed on proved the weak points of the connie class. dont people listen
What Garrett's Enterprise did is a meaningful act of honor by the Klingon Empire.
Captain Rachel Garrett:
'We'll make sure the Romulans get a good fight We'll make it one for the history books'.
In an episode of Star Trek Continues, Captain Garret's Grand-Daughter is featured. She wished to take command of the salvaged USS Hood. Unfortunately, the team led by Scotty (Chris Doohan!) is unable to successfully save the Hood before her Warp core failed. Chekov saves the away team a split second before the Hood Exploded. Scott promotes Chekhov to Full Lieutenant!
Remember what that Admiral said in the season 2 episode 'The Measure of a Man' 'For 500 years every ship called Enterprise has become a Legend this one is no different'.
Let history never forget the name… Enterprise.
God takes care of fools, children and ships named Enterprise.
I really wish they would do a series set around the Enterprise B's exploration. That would be awesome 👌
Read the Lost Era novel "Serpents Among The Ruins". No spoilers, but you get to see how Captain Harriman played a vital role in an noteworthy Star Trek event that is mentioned in TNG.
I rather like the unmentioned in-universe reason for the refit nacelle swept design, which moves their internal equipment forward in the secondary hull, allowing more space in the shuttle and cargo transfer bays, which are massive in The Motion Picture.
I want to point out that the sound for the video cut out for about a minute somewhere between the 11 minute mark and the 13 minute mark.
Anyway, it is very unlikely that the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-B was decommissioned, because other starships of the Excelsior class were still in service during the late 24 Century. That logically means that the Enterprise-B was very likely destroyed, instead of being decommissioned. The only reason why the Enterprise-B would have to be decommissioned is if it was so severely damaged as to be unsalvageable for repairs, otherwise it would not have been decommissioned.
The most likely cause is they've had a content ID claim put on the video after upload so they've muted the audio to appeal the claim and get control back. Some particularly nasty operators will content ID claim a video then monetise the snot out of it making it unwatchable with the amount of mid-roll ads that get run on it. An active claim means any ad-sense revenue earned goes to the claimant. It's quite the side industry going on under CZcams unfortunately 🤗
11.12 to 12:23 Time to practice your lip reading.
Actually, if Starfleet wanted to showcase their latest technologies in a ship built from the ground up for it, they very well could have decommissioned the B, refitting it and recommissioning it as a different ship. "You know, the Saratoga here use to be the Enterprise B? Yeah, when the Ambassador class came out, they decided to name a new Enterprise and this old girl got put back in service with a facelift and a new name." - Two Lower Decks Crewmen probably -
@@Enterprising_Aim Well, we won't really know what happens to the Enterprise-B until the writers and producers of "Star Trek" give us the officially canonical fate of the Enterprise-B. In the meantime, there's non-canonical stories in the form of official Star Trek books that specifically state that the Enterprise-B was destroyed. So I'm more inclined to believe that destruction of the Enterprise-B will eventually become the ship's official fate in canon.
as i recall the reason the enterprise-B was decommissioned was because the crew was exposed to a virus that starfleet couldn't decontaminate so they desposed for the ship instead because of this fact but i could be wrong some correct me if i'm wrong
The thinness of the connecting features on the original ship was not a weakness but was intended by the original design to convey an almost "magical" level of engineering understanding, with there being no vulnerability or weakness in a design that looks to us today like fragility. I wish anyone working on ST projects knew the original history of the original design. It's no wonder, the configuration is entirely misunderstood, too - saucer, secondary hull, distant nacelles. Subsequent design increasingly considers aesthetics instead of updated original functionality. The giant secondary impulse thrusters on the B would incinerate the nacelles. Then, the nacelles inline with the saucer blocks the Bussard collectors on the C. Silliness. Oh well.
I tottaly agree. It´s a pity theses concepts were ignored since ST II with the Reliant, since she has no deflector dish. The naceles should always work in pairs and nothing between them. This should be a golden rule.
To be fair, with no medium to transmit the heat from the expelled plasma onto the nacelles and the fact that there is indeed a structural integrity field and impulse engines are highly thrust efficient, it probably wasn't an issue in-universe on the Excelsior refits. Not enough plasma being vented and not enough heat being conducted to cause real damage. Besides, the bussard collectors are used to collecting plasma.
On the C, it's a little odd I'll grant but accounting for the fact that they have 3-dimensional maneuverability and the collectors tend to work best in highly saturated spaces anyways, the C could still feasibly operate them. Especially if the collectors have some kind of "suction" effect to them, and don't simply work as ramscoops.
@9:01 Galaxy Enterprise D had another photon torpedo launcher; however it was covered and not usable when the ship was intact. Separating the saucer exposed the additional aft launcher for use from the saucer.
As the Galaxy class used its separation less and less, I suspect the saucer section aft launcher was deleted to reallocate space for other systems.
Boy this is missing so much.
like original 60s Enterprise the best ,looks real the others look like Christmas trees
For a good second I thought you sounded like Lenard nimoy and I got excited, great video really well produced man this is $$ content
the end credits say it was Nimoy.
Imagine someone made a thing that looks cool for for the sake of looking cool and now you have to sit in front of a camera and come up with some random-ass technobabble on the spot to explain why it looks like that. Yeah, that's basically this whole video.
That's part of the fun of it though
I love the Ambassador class, she carried both the constitution class design ethic , and the Excelsior class , it's a pity that the one depicted as the ' C' on the conference room wall of the galaxy class ship ( which never made much tactical sense , with families placed in danger ), it was to ' pc ', yet the ambassador design the Drexler eventually fleshed out, was again ( being the supposed 'C' ) was a link between the last design and the next. I would have used that for the ' D' , increasing the size to 1000m , and given it something different to a regular turbo lift, to reach each part of the ship, after all the E was heading for over half a mile long almost .
But back to the design, I loved the enterprise C , the Rounded Ambassador class, ot has a design that pile would easily recognise , with the Enterprise depicted on SNW , which has clearly grown from the original ( all due to Picards crew giving Cochrane , and Dr Lilly.sloane , access to 24c tech, which more was found in the ice of Antarctica, by the science team during the second year of the nx01's voyages .
This affected the timeline going forward , trek after first contact was in an altered timeline ( as confirmed aboard the USS Relativity, and told to 7 of 9, , only the Borg were named ), but safe to say that the advanced looking NX01, was a result of its co designer having seen the enterprise E, and his assistant , being on the bridge soaking up all that information on warp fields, etc etc, on the bridge displays ( a good scientist like if a NASA scientist was taken aboard a 24th century space craft, would at least recognise scientific information.
Anyway it explains how pike's enterprise ends up being the same length as the D ( yep if you saw the hologram in Picard , as Picard walked into HQ and looked up , to see pikes ship , and the d a moment later , it was clear the 1701 was the same length but obviously not as filled out as the famous ' D', it explains, why it's bridge is as big as that of the D , and it's vast Turbolift system ( shown in star trek shorts ).
Anyway , time travel warps the mind , but while we know it's just down to modern cgi, it's nice to give an in universe idea why subsequent ships where more advanced , perhaps the altered ' B' was a result , the huge ' C' which dwarfed the B , but as I began to say, I just wish they'd made the D exactly as drexler had made the supposed design for the ' C' , it would have been far more logical than the jump , to the D which was more like a fancy ocean liner, I mean it certainly wasn't tactically much use , it got its ass handed to it by a clapped out rouge bird of prey. And the warp core was always , overheating or ready to blow , which when you compare the beatings pikes enterprise took in SNW and even the NX01 , and the C that kept four Romulan war birds busy until the Klingons arrived , just as it's self destruct took out the remaining Romulan warbirds, while the rest fled.
Every other enterprise seemed stronger .
The D was just lame .
The E did not look right at all, now if they had made the Prometheus class an enterprise , fitted that with a cloak and defiant class rapid fire weapons , tri cobalt torpedo's , and all the tech voyager brought back , I'd wager there would not be an F already !
And that may sound a bit silly but the E bore no design lineage to any other ship. , Probably due to its own interference at first contact . But again time travel warps the mind !.
At least the Prometheus class as an enterprise, kitted out as I suggest and with cloaking tech , to show the new close ties with Romulans, might have made for some good drama , the flag ship able to split three ways .
Picard might finally have got the drop on the Borg , instead of Janeway and the ugly Stargazer .
Anyway just my thoughts after watching all the various trek shows .
Note I left out how vast discovery was , and the fact when build time was added it was built before the Constitution class? And yet it was as long as this is cannon as the E,E ( 795m)
But that's a different discussion entirely, oh and it had a shuttlebay so vast it held a huge asteroid .
So what the heck happened to starfleet going back from ships like that and the Buran to the Connie?.
From time samp 11:08 to 12:28 we lose all the sound together, maybe someone should fix that?!? 🤨
the edit says youtube did it on purpose cause of the music.
wish ol' Trip could have seen the engine room of a Galaxy Class!
Aside from the audio drop out, great video.
Enjoyable jaunt through the stages of evolution, shame about the audio issue hope that gets resolved. Thank you.
Man every time I see the Sovereign Class U.S.S. Enterprise I still can not believe how insanely huge the ship is as it is nearly 4 times the size of Kirk's ship it is just crazy I mean looking at the profile of the 2 ships the Constitution Class Enterprise is about half the length of the Sovereign Class Enterprise E's warp engines that is just amazing I mean can anyone imagine what it would have been like for Starfleet if they built ships like the Sovereign Class during Kirk's time Starfleet would really have been a major power to contend with.
The Galaxy Class is even BIGGER!!!
@@thethirdchimpanzee I'm dying to see the "F" on screen. I've always wondered what Star Fleet could build if they made a ISD sized star ship.
@@thethirdchimpanzee Hey you forgot the Galaxy Class Starship measures in at 642.51 meters in length,measures in at 487.92 meters wide,measures in at 190 meters in height and weighs in at 4,5,00,000 metric tons while the Sovereign Class measures in nearly 700 meters long but weighs in over 3,500,000 metric tons so remember the Galaxy Class was built with families in mind till the Dominion War while the Sovereign Class was built with one thing in mind and that was to fight the Borg like the Akira,Saber,Norway,SteamRunner and the Defiant Classes.
@@Demobot1 Picard Season 3, your wish has been granted. Well almost. Star Trek Online's Odyssey class Enterprise-F will be officially canonized next year as the new Enterprise. She's 1061 meters long, 147 meters tall, and 371 meters wide, grossing 6.62 Million Metric Tons....yeah she's a big girl. With a crew of 1600-2500 she's legit bigger than the Galaxy. Not quite Imperial class size, but getting closer. I bid thee farewell.
@@3Rayfire That's just a bit smaller than the Venator, so we are officially in Star Destroyer-size vessels.
I always thought the Enterprise D looked like a big Bobble Head version of the sleek and powerful Constitution refit (The most beautiful enterprise imho), followed closely by the Sovereign Class Enterprise (also beautiful)
Agree. Hate the monstrosity that is the saucer section.
Enterprise D was literally an unfinished, initial, rough sketch that Probert drew on a napkin or piece of paper and a studio exec grabbed it and they ran with it...It was unfinished and it looks silly, impractical like a slug or snail...not a starship
Absolutely! I had little use for what I called The Pepsi Generation (old Pepsi slogan from the 80s "cola wars") and loathed the D model. I called it the ruptured duck.
The USS ENTERPRISE NCC 1701 D is back from the dead!!
This was included in a DVD pack of the first 10 movies that I own!
I think it’s kind of funny the perspective of the video is as if this guy was part of the creation process of all these different shifts.
The refit movie Enterprise is by far the best looking of all StarTrek ships.
Looks even better than the TOS original.
Scientific reseach has proven this to be objectively correct.
It should have been mentioned that the U.S.S. Lakota an upgraded Excelsior Class Starship was also equipped with Quantum Torpedoes.
1:40 This constitution class enterprise had a bottle of sorian Brandy on every shelf. After refit, it was the biggest bootlegger of romulan ale of all other starships in the federation.
4:30 following the loss of captain Scott’s private reserve aboard the enterprise…
When I was at UD in the late 80s/early 90s, a package store in Elkton, Md had this dirt cheap booze- one orange, one bright electric blue. Of course, we called it Saurian Brandy and Romulan Ale.
When you unscrewed the cap, a dry-ice fog like smoke came out and fell down over your hand. Good stuff. $1 per quart in 1988.
One thing I had always wondered about after all these years with Kirk's Enterprise ever since seeing reruns of the T.O.S. series who was it that came up with naming the ship class the Constitution Class.
i remember putting the disc in for this on road trips, what a video
Correction on the video. The Enterprise E was NOT larger than the Enterprise D! It was longer, but much smaller.
i feel like "larger" or "smaller" aren't the correct words it's thinner but longer i'd say they're about the same in terms of size then again there are many other issues i have with this video that i fear most people would fine irrelevant
@@lordorion5776 The Ent D has more mass, has a larger crew capacity (over 1000). It IS a bigger ship by all authentic sources. The Ent E was specifically designed to be sleeker, more manuverable and much more tactically leaning,. It has a crew capacity over 700 but less than 800.
@@borg111 i would disparage the idea of using crew size as a determining factor for the size of a ship as automation or improvements in ship design can (and usually do) lead to slightly larger ships with much smaller crews and "by all authentic sources" screams to me "by all sources I like" i could be wrong but what sources are you sighting i admit for me it's not much more then inferences based off what i see on screen and i played STO so not great sources there so i'll spend some time looking things up
@@borg111 also like i said larger or smaller are poor metrics for comparing ships i think we can both agree the Sov was a better warship based of it's combat capabilities
@@lordorion5776 Poor compare metrics? I disagree. It depends what one is comparing. The Sov is a better fighter, no question. When it comes to exploration, the Galaxy is way better due to its crew size and overall capacity to carry supplies for an extended amount of time. Less trips between Starbases as it was mentioned in an early TNG episode. Size does matter. During wartime I agree that a Sov is the better ship to fight with.
There was another Enterprise before NX-01, you can see it on various displays of past Starship Enterprise's and on the wall of Picards office along with the other models of past Enterprise's. It looks kind of like the ship from 2001: A Space Odyssey, bulbous forward command section with a narrow shaft-like body with two large rings in the back, I think it was a warp 2 passenger liner used about 20 years before NX-01 was launched, according to semi-canon sources. It was actually one of the early designs for the original series ship, rejected and replaced by the more famous 1701 design, and added later as a precursor to 1701.
Was also a tall ship from the 1700s and aircraft carrier not to mention the prototype shuttle all called Enterprise!
The XCV 330. It was an experimental ship with humans trying to make Vulcan ring ships. It probably could make Warp 2 at best, but humans decided to go in the nacelle direction.
@@adamlewellen5081 Real world, there were 7 Enterprise's in the US Navy (a sloop, two schooners, a steam-powered sloop of war, a motorboat, and two aircraft Carriers, one of which was the first Nuclear powered Carrier) along with an 8th currently under construction (Gerald Ford-class Carrier, CVN-80), as well as 6 noted civilian ships, three air/space ships, and a US Navy Training Facility. The British also had 14 Enterprises in their Navy and 4 civilian ships.
@@FerretJohn I am in awe sir!
Yes, XCV-330 was it's registery. My head cannon speculates that it's design was functionally like the TMP warp sled, with it's long narrow neck being the attachment point for various mission specific modules wherein are contained crew and passenger accomodatons, cargo holds etc. The neck being the primary access corridor to all modules stacked radially outward in all directions but containd within the diameter of the warp rings. All together a design and propulsion advancement from the DY-100. Being capable of faster than light travel, I read it's registery as standing for eXo (beyond) light speed (C) Vehicle.
I am not ashamed to admit that I too was chocked up when I saw this video. Enterprise has always been amazing to look at. But when I saw then end and what the possible future Enterprise could look like I was could not believe how cool it looks Only Discovery looks even close to being so futuristic.
“Newer aerodynamic design”. Yes I can see how that would be helpful in space travel! 😂
Chill, people! The sound cuts out because of Romulan jamming the signal. Section 31 is working on it.
Like I mentioned in a previous comment for when the 3rd season of Star Trek:Picard when we were introduced to the Neo Constitution Class where it mentioned that said class had a redesigned neck structure that was made stronger and reinforced it indicates that Starfleet finally did something about that design flaw that put the Constitution Refit Class into mothballs in the first place.
They must have gotten a musical strike near the end for a minute, that's probably why the sound gets muted. Poopy.
2:20 aerodynamic design 😀
It's already been established that the Constitution class enterprise was the flagship of the Federation, and NX-01 was also the flagship of Starfleet so it didn't 'become' a flagship
Check your blueprints. Constitution Class refit has 5 docking ports, not 2.
Yeah it has one on the port side of the Saucer Section,one right behind the main bridge,one on both sides of the photon torpedo bay and one on both sides of the secondary hull like the one we saw Kirk and Scotty dock at in the Motion Picture.
I think they were talking about the cargo bay ports, not all the general added ports.
I don't understand why they would call the Enterprise A a renamed old Constitution Refit Class Starship as it was originally called the U.S.S. Yorktown NCC-1717 as seen in the video of what Starfleet did during the Whale Probe incident the only other problem is it said in said video the Yorktown was a newly constructed ship fresh out of the Shipyards and was going on a shakedown cruise when it encountered the probe and as the narrator said the ship was renamed the Enterprise and was built with a whole slew of brand new technologies that the original Enterprise never had including being fitted with the first new warp core similar to what we saw on both the Galaxy and Sovereign Class Starships what was called a Pulse Warp Core.
Don't overthink it. Just go back to sleep and enjoy the Science Fiction
@@Species5008 Ha Ha very funny you should go into comedy you are such a comedian.
Judging by the music which is mostly first contact but still showing enterprise, id say this was made in the very early 2000s.
The Yorktown wasn't a brand new starship, she was put out of action in star trek IV. So she was rechristened to the 1701-A
@@Barbariandisks You should watch a video of what Starfleet most likely did during the encounter with the whale probe in Star Trek 4:The Voyage Home it was right after an Oberth Class Starship encountered the probe it showed a newly commissioned Constitution Refit Class Starship called the U.S.S. Yorktown NCC-1717 that encountered the probe and lost all power and remember that scene where Admiral Cartwright asked one of his officers 'Get Me the Yorktown' and they brought up on the screen the captain of the Yorktown so what we saw in that scene most likely really happened we may never know but it's possible.
Watching this made feel like I'm back in school. History class. Starfleet Starship edition 😎
Still bugs me how bad the Enterprise D gets punked out. The ship had enough fire power to make the Borg take notice, but gets 2 shot by an outdated bird of prey. Galaxy class really was the glass jaw of starfleet.
No, it just suffered from arbitrary plot.
@@tarron3237 Yes and no, its is just a writing oversight, but people have seen it with enough regularity that they actually have a good theory. Its a simply design flaw in that the Galaxy class has systems that are more powerful than what the actual specs of the ship were designed for, so when the ship starting taking damage it actually has a pretty high chance of overloading the systems which causes them to well...blow up. Hense why it seems like it doesnt take alot of actual damage to causes the warp core to instantly go critical.
7:48 "The Love Boat....Soon we'll be making another run..."
... to Risa? 😂
Man this is one awesome video tribute to one of the greatest Starships in the history of the United Federation of Planets going all the way back to United Earth with the very first Starship Enterprise NX-01 under the command of Captain Johnathan Archer going all the way to the Sovereign Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-E under the command of Captain Jean-Luc Picard great work to the guys who made this video of a great grey old lady who has become a living legend and in the words of Captain Picard 'Let's Make Sure History Never Forgets the Name Enterprise' and in the famous words of Captain Spock 'SPACE THE FINAL FRONTIER THESE ARE THE VOYAGES OF THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE HER ONGOING MISSION TO EXPLORE STRANGE NEW WORLDS TO SEEK OUT NEW LIFE AND NEW CIVILIZATIONS TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN WHERE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE' LONG LIVE THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE.
And it has it’s the most famous name a ship can recive from the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier to the sovereign class now the odessy class captained by the finest there have been (not the b and c)
@@aditya3127 Well remember the Enterprise B was responsible for mapping over 142 Star systems and making first contact with 17 civilizations while the Enterprise C was responsible for the alliance with the Klingon Empire after the ship and her crew sacrificed themselves to protect the Klingon outpost on Nerendra 3 when it came under attack by 4 Romulan WarBirds.
Good to hear lenard, rip.....
Leonard Nimoy, r. i. p.
I shouldn't get choked up seeing a literal model kit but i do
Excellent. Thank you.
You have to hand it to the Vulcans in Enterprise. They really showed off how much warp knowledge they kept from humans with their ship designs.
ncc-1701, if you go by what was said in the original series and cartoon series, was actually over thirty years old when destroyed. 5 years under captain april, at least 10 under pike, 10 under kirk(5 before refit, 5 after), plus several more as a training ship.
Actually your math is a bit off as it was stated that the Constitution Class came into service in the 2240's and the Enterprise was commissioned in 2245 so by the events of the Genesis Planet the Enterprise was well over 40 years old not 20 as that Starfleet Admiral mentioned when he was talking to Kirk in the Enterprise's torpedo bay.
@@nicholasmorsovillo2752 ok. i was just pointing out the fact that it was older than 20.
As a teenager, I wrote a Star Trek novel to refute to "total destruction" of the original Enterprise. I had a secret intelligence unit that tractors the bulk of the Enterprise clear so only the burning primary hull falls and burns up. A quick rebuild and this " off the books" starship gets used for covert ops, ending with the capture of a new Klingon dreadnaught. It ends with this upgraded Enterprise -A being turned over to Kirk, re the end of STIII. Kirk never knows my guy borrowed his baby...😂
PS: when Deep Space 9 brought out the "Section 31" story arc, I thought I'd been ripped off again! 😊
I find it hilarious that the host keeps using the word "aerodynamic" when it doesn't even matter in space. I'll give it to him if it meant that these ships were built on Earth and had to get to space. However, all of these ships were built in a drydock and they were never meant to land on a planet. They had shuttles for away missions onto a planet's surface.
Spacio-dynamic, not aerodynamic, lol.
When TNG was first about to premiere, in an episode of the Star Trek Communicator Magazine, I believe that Probert or Roddenberry said that by the 24th century, Federation materials and design technology had gotten to the point where designers were free to consider aesthetics into ship design, they weren't just limited to form being a slave to pure function. But starships could also be "a work of art" (hah, I'll be Probert was the one who said this, lol, of *his own work*!)
Whatever, it is a good in-universe explaination as to why the ships seemed designed to "look pretty"!
Of course, there are also the claims of "warp field dynamics" requiring a saucer shape and an aerodynamic - really, spacial-dynamic - streamlined shape...at least according to all the tech manuals - but then we see so many other ships that contradict this. I mean the Borg literally fly around in a GIANT BOX!!!
Of course, the saucer IS designed to be specifically, *literally* aerodynamic...in *air*...so that it can glide to a controlled crash landing on a planet, like in "Generations". They are also supposed to be able to manipulate shape of the force fields and shields around the saucer to make it more wing-like, and give it lift. I get the idea that in "Generations", a lot of systems were damaged and without power...so hence the crash.
And in "Beyond" there was NO pilot...and the saucer was full of holes...but still, if did a good job kinda gliding. (In the Prime Universe 1701 original TOS version and the Refit had that curve to the underside of the saucer, supposedly to also help it act like a wing and glide down.)
I thought he was about to speak on USS Enterprise CVN 65 🤣
Remember the U.S.S. Enterprise CVN-65 wasn't a Starship she was a Nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier.
1701-D was made for 4:3 television screens.
For movies and widescreen TVs, it was necessary to change to 1701-E.
Gotta say, the Connie Refit is the best looking version of the ship. No Fischer Price glowy neon crap...just pure function and sleek lines.
The 1701 deflector dish always reminds me of a fruit tingle.
Sound cuts out at 11:05 - 12:25
Another thing I found funny about the Star Trek Universe isn't it funny that every Enterprise seen has been every class of Starship seen from the NX Class to 2 ships of the Constitution Class to one variant of the Excelsior Class to one of the Ambassador Class to the third ship of the Galaxy Class to the Sovereign Class man that was really interesting to see.
I’d love if they did an updated version of this to reflect the f and g
those don't exist thankfully, cause any ship designed after the beauty of the Sovereign class would look like garbage in comparison to it
Long overdue! The true story of the Enterprise. Glad somebody finally did it, and did it right! However I do have to agree with some of the other comments. Aerodynamic? Really? Last I checked there was no air in space haha! But at least the progression and the music was fun to watch. And once again it's really nice to see the history of this hugely iconic ship!
Space isn't empty though. There are nebulae. Even interstellar space isn't empty.
Well this is seems to be about John eaves explaining the evolution of the design of each enterprise and how he thinks it fits in the lore, nothing much more
I love this a lot.
When the preview for Yesterday's Enterprise was shown, I was excited that we'd finally get to see, not only the ship that we had been seeing on the conference room wall (thus making it canonical) in all her visual glory, but that we would finally have a new addition to the Fleet that wasn't a TMP era (of which I love, don't get me wrong) wessels. One can then understand that it was a bit jarring to my 14-year-old brain the levels of incongruency that occurred upon seeing what came through that Spatial Anomaly. Whilst I can understand the limits of production needs, and time constraints that resulted in the simple shapes C that we got, it showed a severe lack of forethought that the rabid bunch that we Trek fans can be might just want a continuity vessel that links the 70 odd years between the old and new. It didn't need to be overly detailed, requiring just a 2' model for its potential cameo appearances. Said model might probably have sufficed for the NCC-1701-C, and if not, then a larger one could have been made with likely intentions for future use.
As you can tell I'm pretty salty about this subject, but it's for a good reason given that the C we got literally broke lineage. To make the C that we see on the conference room wall, Andrew Probert took profile pictures of the Excelsior & Galaxy classes and placed them above and below his drawing board. He then began to blend aspects of both ships so that a connection between them would be readily apparent. This fact alone makes my nerdy heart ache that this man, whose contributions to Trek are numerous, never got to see his creation onscreen. SMH.
We got the new look of the enterprise f in Picard! It's an odyssey class starship
Like I mentioned in a previous comment when Star Trek 3:The Search for Spock came out in theatres and everyone in the audience watched the Enterprise blow up like that there most likely wasn't a single dry eye in the whole theatre as everyone who had seen the series grew up with that ship and another thing with the Nexus Energy ribbon encounter I cannot explain how they thought Kirk knew about the thing as remember what Chekov said when they first saw it 'What the Hell is That?' because apparently the original crew of the original Enterprise had never encountered something like the Nexus before during they're voyages and the Excelsior Refit Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-B and her crew were the first in Starfleet to encounter it.
1: Learn how to talk in normal sentences
2: Scotty was the one who figured out the ribbon. Remember he was always a miracle worker which meant he was never phased by a task. He was a mechanical and theoretical genius.
Edit: 3: I never shed a tear. I rewind to watch the 1701 blow up over and over again because its ugly as hell and so is the A.
@@redwren4182 No Scotty figured out how to free the ship from the Ribbon by reconfiguring the main deflector dish to simulate a torpedo blast as the Enterprise B didn't have any torpedoes onboard till the following Tuesday and if I remember correctly Data stated that the ribbon passes through the system every 57 years or something like that so the crew of the original Enterprise never encountered the thing till that day.
@@nicholasmorsovillo2752 I believe I covered all that.
@@redwren4182 That wasn't the A. The A came after. What's your favorite Enterprise design?
@@3Rayfire they're too similar not to get mixed up. My favourite ship is the Enterprise F, but refit with STO's Yorktown deflector and seen in comics thanks to STO. Its great to see alpha canon ships come out of an MMO 😎
The sound cut off near the end!
Yeah I really hated the sound cutting off near the end right up till the scene where they show the Enterprise E firing it's quantum torpedoes towards a Borg Cube the sound comes back on right after impact.
Yeah, blame that on copy write policies from youtube
Great job 👏 👍
I lost sound at 11 mins in. Was very disappointing as this was an awesome video. Sound returned at 12:22. You may want to reload this.
The Enterprise-D is by some way my favourite. The E is considerably smaller than the D. While it's longer, it encloses much, much less internal volume.
Go back and FIX THE AUDIO!
Almost FOUR MINUTES of this Video, were MUTED!😢
According to my blueprints, the refit was named the Enterprise class.
Unfortunately, that never made cannon. IIRC Gene himself said that the refit was a Constitution class. Since he made that statement, it made it cannon. Beta cannon shows all ships from the Enterprise-A onward were known as the Enterprise subclass of the Constitution class.
@@Daedalus1701 Well, I guess it makes sense. I mean, the Enterprise was refitted, so in a way it is still the same ship in the same class
That's what it was called back in the 80s.
Why the sound muted start from 11:08 to 12:38?
1701a was the sexiest of them all imo
Light speed! I thought we warped Space in trek?
Yeah that's true but remember what Will Riker said to Dr. Cochrane in Star Trek:First Contact of how that Vulcan survey ship picked up the warp signature of the Phoenix and stated that the Vulcans discovered that humans had discovered the ability to travel faster than light even though it was never mentioned exactly how fast the Phoenix was going when she broke the warp barrier and remember in the Star Trek Voyager season 2 episode 'The 37's' where Tom Paris was talking with Amelia Earhart when she asked how fast Voyager was and Tom answered 'Warp 9.997 in your terms that's about 4 Billion Miles a Second' and it was funny what her reaction was to that with the look on her face it was like 'No Way Get out of Here' now that was funny.
Flying saucers and jets were very popular in the sixties so the guys who created the enterprise combine the two by putting jet engines on a flying saucer. How creative..
First Human-built propulsion system? What about the S.S. Valiant that encountered the energy barrier?
First Human built Warp 5 engine.
I think Valiant may have been just after Archer. "A century ago" would of been mid 2160s.
Sound cuts out at 11:05, no matter how many times I refresh the page, subtitles stop working at 11: 15, sound comes back at 12:23
We desperately need a series based around the Enterprise C.
Rachel Garret and the Enterprise C have a few stories and books out there. It would be interesting to see a series set in those times. Good idea!
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Yeah and like I mentioned in previous comments it would be nice if they could do a series on the Excelsior Refit Class Enterprise B as well.
All that unknown dark matter must be pretty thick during warp…
The NX-01 was the first human built starship that employed Copy/Paste technology in its design.
The inheritors of TOS are unworthy of the legacy. There was logic to the design of the original Enterprise: The 1960s imagineers knew about magneto-hydrodynamics (MHD): the saucers were, by themselves, MHD starships (this is why main engineering, and the main reactor, is on the back of the saucer); impulse was an inefficient FTL MHD technology; the saucers landed on planets (originally no transporters) - again there was a practical reason the TOS Enterprise was a saucer (think Forbidden planet). The entire secondary hull assembly was to “augment” the saucer with the much more powerful and efficient Warp drive. The “warp field” (I’m not going into that but there was some credible pseudoscience in that concept too) was created between the two nacelles. This was a no man’s land of distorted space. Warp drives required two and only two nacelles and a no man’s land between them - no one nacelle starships, no 3 or 4: 2 and only 2! The saucer MHD “impulse” drive had to be aligned in the warp stream to provide the thrust. The “neck” had two functions: 1) to couple the saucer to the warp assembly in precisely the correct position and to transport plasma from the main reactor (in the saucer) to the nacelles. This absurd notion that this is somehow vulnerable is rooted in 20th century thinking where mass and density are armor. TOS lives in a world of energy weapons and and fields. In 20th century terms, putting the bridge on the top of the saucer is “vulnerable”: in TOS, putting the bridge on the top of the saucer allowed it to have an additional deflector shield supplementing the main shield (making it the hardest point on the ship). It’s sad to see simple minds reduce TOS to a cargo cult.
My favorite is the refitted and the A
Very cool ! 👍
The NX-01 was a retcon, prior to 2001 the earliest Enterprise was the NCC-1701.
Sound drop time index 1105. Very good video
Really not sure why they said the E was larger then the D... that was an incorrect statement. The E was longer than the D, but D had was still larger overall. Wider, taller, more livable space....
Aerodynamic design.....
.... in the vacuum of space?
I enjoy this video.
Brilliant documentary.
Thankfully there is no Enterprise after the E, cause the Sovereign class is a work of art and any ship they'd come up with after it would undoubtedly look like crap in comparison
The best looking Enterprise the refit NCC-1701 and its successor the NCC-1701A. The next best looking Enterprise was the NCC-1701C.
If there is no air in space, hey is the ship designed for aerodynamic flight. And even those so-called atmospheric planetary landings
Why would you need aerodynamic design in space where there is no air?
The only Ship on Earth uniting everyone here and pushing our consciousness further as we are willing to except.
It is in fact bit inaccurate. XCV 330 Enterprise is Starliner class Alfa Canon predecessor of NX-01 Enterprise.
Does the sound drop out at 11:04? It just cuts off.
John Eaves is one of the all time greats as far as designing ships and stuff for Trek, but hosting/narrating this was a bit out of his wheelhouse. Still a fun watch though
No need for aerodynamics in space
Aerodynamic
The Enterprise NCC17O1-E is my favorite.
same. Good thing there's no ships after it, cause they'd look like garbage in comparison
aerodynamic in space?
When the Romulan Type-B Warbird was revealed the design of the Galaxy and Type-B were at par. Starfleet then creates the Sovereign class. Unfortunately the Romulans one up Starfleet by creating the Scimitar. In addition, the sovereign was obsolete compared to the Jem'Hadar heavy battle cruiser during the Dominion War. The Jem'Hemdar polaron weapon systems tore apart older Starfleet vessels especially the Galaxy class.
Well technically, the Scimitar was made by Remans and not Romulans.
And according to canon, the Sovereign Class was designed ( like the Defiant ) to battle the Borg and not the Dominion.
Great video but what happened to the audio? 😟
Copyright infringement stuff
It started out as a sailing ship in the Royal Navy...
Then the US Navy appropriated the name for a number of its ships ...
Then NASA showed its forceful side by bowing to popular demand and renaming its first reusable craft...