The Being of the Father is 3 Persons?!? 🤨

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    In this video, a Trinitarian makes the absurd claim that "the being of the Father is 3 persons". There is no precedence for such a statement in the Christian tradition.
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Komentáře • 92

  • @Oreacts1
    @Oreacts1 Před rokem +59

    I'm so glad I left Christianity! Alhamdulillah. Hearing Christians try to explain the Trinity makes my head wanna explode! So ridiculous!

    • @uthman2281
      @uthman2281 Před rokem +5

      Masha Allah
      Alhamdulillah

    • @Oreacts1
      @Oreacts1 Před rokem

      @@ghostkilla2016 That doesn't make sense because attributes and persons aren't the same thing. Tawheed says GOD is one period. Very simple, the 99 attributes which btw aren't his only attributes have nothing to do with it. Trinity is a whole different claim. These are not comparable my friend.

    • @uthman2281
      @uthman2281 Před rokem +1

      @@ghostkilla2016
      All Christian teaching is not biblical. 1. Nowhere in the bible does it say God is three entities three person three things in one being. 2.Jesus can never be God because He sits next to God in heaven.

    • @uthman2281
      @uthman2281 Před rokem +1

      @@ghostkilla2016
      no philosophy out there can help you defend the nonsensical mythology of Christianity.

    • @mannypele3582
      @mannypele3582 Před 8 měsíci

      Muslims just don't get it bro, in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT one name, not names GOD is nothing like his creation but can become what ever he wants because he's all powerful and is capable of that... unlike allah he can't even enter creation the weaklean

  • @khitir1500
    @khitir1500 Před rokem +26

    He keeps equivocating on "being" and it confuses him. On the one hand, he wants to use being as a universal, and on the other hand he wants to use it as a particular substance.

    • @randomnormie8690
      @randomnormie8690 Před rokem +5

      I noticed that too, he keeps using that word a bit loosely

  • @usmandurrani3930
    @usmandurrani3930 Před rokem +11

    "The personhood in the personhood in the personhood" 😅

  • @Ace0555
    @Ace0555 Před rokem +17

    Wow this was crazy. I’m shaking my head like how can someone believe this. I’m not even speaking out of arrogance. Just concern for people have left their critical thinking. I feel sorry for them.

  • @Suleiman212
    @Suleiman212 Před rokem +18

    "If my fellow polytheists don't express their polytheism in the way I've just now expressed it, they're going to hell."

  • @tachikoma7757
    @tachikoma7757 Před rokem +9

    "The being of the father is triune" and the same guy claims he doesn't put God in parts.

  • @shyneshiz
    @shyneshiz Před rokem +12

    Al Hamdulillah for Islam. I thank Allah the Almighty for guiding me to Islam

  • @mrt7948
    @mrt7948 Před rokem +4

    O my, why do they make it so complicated

  • @azlannair4835
    @azlannair4835 Před rokem +2

    And in Corinthians they say God is NOT an author of confusion.
    They waffle so much that they forgot what they said earlier.

  • @mighty3846
    @mighty3846 Před rokem +10

    سبحان الله والحمد لله ولا اله الا الله والله اكبر. No other words to express the gratitude for being a muslim and for the guidance Allāh (swt) gave us. Thank you brother JAKE for these educational videos

  • @vasanac7214
    @vasanac7214 Před rokem +2

    Wow wow wow this is like a mental gymnastics !

  • @azlannair4835
    @azlannair4835 Před rokem +4

    You ask 10 Christians regarding trinity and you get around 100 different answers.

  • @wheatblue7592
    @wheatblue7592 Před rokem +2

    I love it when a sophist is being thoroughly exposed

  • @samsuuddin9731
    @samsuuddin9731 Před rokem +1

    Lol on matt slick on speed dial.

  • @hasidinshariff3302
    @hasidinshariff3302 Před rokem +8

    It's not ' difficult ' it's ' impossible '

  • @elite7329
    @elite7329 Před rokem +9

    When he describes "beinghood" it sounds like he is describing haecceity or a thing's "thisness" however given the fact that he already agreed that each of the divine persons within the trinity has their own idiomada (properties that differentiate them) this clearly can't be the case as this would violate the classical law of identity. I think this guy just ended up confusing himself more than he did the audience.
    Edit: Now it's starting to sound like he's appealing to "functional monotheism" which for all intents and purposes is still polytheism.
    Edit2: Now he's saying that "the being of the Father is triune" opening up the door to there potentially being an infinite amount of divine persons...

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Před rokem

      LoL

    • @Suleiman212
      @Suleiman212 Před rokem +3

      They've violated classical logic, affirmed the existence of true contradictions, fallen into several heresies, and it's only Monday 😳

  • @prasg1186
    @prasg1186 Před rokem +1

    26:28 🤣🤣 Barakallahufeekum for your efforts akhi! Don't know how manage to do it w/ a straight face but you got me crackin up in public!

  • @cumar9875
    @cumar9875 Před rokem +13

    Well done brother jake

  • @Muslimman570
    @Muslimman570 Před rokem +6

    I remember 🤣

  • @trademarkuk7504
    @trademarkuk7504 Před rokem +3

    A polytheist monotheist is an oxymoron.

  • @sharkyh7327
    @sharkyh7327 Před rokem +2

    This is like the Russian dolls explanation of the trinity, more things inside itself and then another things inside that etc

  • @samkadi5443
    @samkadi5443 Před rokem +4

    Good job

  • @homtanks7259
    @homtanks7259 Před rokem +3

    JazakAllah'u khairan brother

  • @Jay702
    @Jay702 Před rokem +5

    It’s like listening to mumbo jumbo explaining trinity

  • @ashfaquei.k.426
    @ashfaquei.k.426 Před rokem +4

    Poke a little bit results in heresy.
    Alhamdilillah for Islam.

  • @wildbeeyenoh5092
    @wildbeeyenoh5092 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Is the Father All knowing like that of the Son's knowledge, like that of the Spirit's too! The father's will is different than that of the Son's & the Spirit's.

  • @UmmFatimah20
    @UmmFatimah20 Před rokem +4

    I really like these videos

  • @MohamedHassan-ni6un
    @MohamedHassan-ni6un Před rokem +3

    The *Creator* is not part of *His* creation.

  • @rasheedsulley7266
    @rasheedsulley7266 Před 7 měsíci

    I am as confused as he is😅😅

  • @arakibhosen434
    @arakibhosen434 Před rokem +2

    ALHAMDULILLAH ❤️ JAJAKALLA KHIRAN ❤️🙂❤️

  • @shaheengk5352
    @shaheengk5352 Před rokem +2

    ⭐️🌸⭐️🌸⭐️🌸⭐️

  • @jihadist4672
    @jihadist4672 Před rokem +3

    Christianity is finished at this point.

  • @ibrahimx28
    @ibrahimx28 Před rokem +1

    The only way I can make sense on the guy's understanding of the "Being of the Father is Triune", is that he uses the term Being as a "Company"
    eg.
    "A" is God, is a Being, is Triune.
    "B" is the Father, is a Person, and one of the Persons in the Triune.
    So, whenever he says ""Being of the Father is Triune", he's referencing the "A", not the "B"
    You can see this like;
    1. Microsoft is a Company that is Big.
    2. Bill Gates is part of Microsoft.
    3. The Company of Bill Gates is Big. (not that Bill Gates himself is Big)
    Next time, we should pin down the terminology more. Though, honestly, I won't be surprised if this turns out to be a heresy, cause Jake is right. This is the first time "Being of the Father is Triune" in that order is used that I've heard of.

  • @RayOfHope8
    @RayOfHope8 Před rokem +3

    ❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹

  • @idhamzaharudie
    @idhamzaharudie Před rokem +2

    Wasted my time, the Xtians waffling

  • @djoloffc
    @djoloffc Před rokem +3

    Good job catholic. What I gathered, is the trinity is not objective. everyone can come up with their own model. Then mine is the sun, the moon & the sky are one

    • @azlannair4835
      @azlannair4835 Před rokem

      Exactly… I’m just amused that no 2 Christians tell the same story. It’s a burden put on their shoulders by the church fathers after the Nicea Council.

  • @xubchillin1616
    @xubchillin1616 Před rokem +1

    did u end up having a convo with the other catholic who apparently holds the same weird triune being Father view? link me please if u did

  • @hanialturk5981
    @hanialturk5981 Před rokem +2

    What a confusing concept.

  • @freeman7983
    @freeman7983 Před 7 měsíci

    masha ALLAH

  • @bstlybengali
    @bstlybengali Před 2 měsíci +1

    everything falls apart for the trinitarian when asked simple questions and they start bringing up things like the hypostatis when it has nothing to do with the conversation. theirs minds are in a blender and they make simple mistakes on doctrine. embarrassing bro.

  • @AbdullahAlMamun-iv7er
    @AbdullahAlMamun-iv7er Před rokem +1

    11:30 Yes you did 🧐

  • @mambaman2007
    @mambaman2007 Před rokem +1

    This is what you have to understand to be christian? You know, christians boxed themselves into a corner when they introduced the trinity.

  • @shaheedkareem9700
    @shaheedkareem9700 Před rokem +1

    @anita Singh he destroys the trinity every time you should stay in your place you not ready.

  • @icebear5659
    @icebear5659 Před rokem +2

    Such a confusing theology

  • @badr_mo
    @badr_mo Před rokem +1

    so anyone can come up with whatever undefined unexplained term then use it as a magic word. If we replace the word "being" with the word "nonsense" it wouldnt make a difference since there's no definition or explanation.

  • @eddyqwam1647
    @eddyqwam1647 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Good argument Jake

  • @mrt7948
    @mrt7948 Před rokem +2

    It's more complicated than Hindu

    • @homtanks7259
      @homtanks7259 Před rokem

      the end result is the same 👉🏻 🔥 👈🏻, may Allah protect us

    • @muhammadbello8756
      @muhammadbello8756 Před rokem +3

      At least Hindus are unapologetic about being polytheists, Christians despite this claim to be monotheists

  • @ahmedbinmohammad4929
    @ahmedbinmohammad4929 Před rokem +2

    The Christian invented a trinity within each person of the trinity! Just like that, the nonity was born. 🤣

  • @mamadoubarry5798
    @mamadoubarry5798 Před 5 měsíci

    Lmaooooo Christian man 🤦‍♂️, absolutely makes no sense

  • @fabihabusra9635
    @fabihabusra9635 Před rokem +2

    😂😂😂

  • @m.a.azmiazmi882
    @m.a.azmiazmi882 Před rokem +1

    Explaining something without understanding, easy thing to say this is mystery!
    If the questioner is intelligent it's lifetime unsolved discussion!
    God is not the author of confusion.

  • @lxmzhg
    @lxmzhg Před 6 měsíci

    How can the Creator be comprehended by His creation? How can human logic, the creation of humans, be applied to a God Whom transcends human logic? How is it valid that human logic is sufficient to comprehend the Trinity? Just because something cannot be comprehended, doesn’t make it invalid.

    • @alia-wm8ug
      @alia-wm8ug Před 5 měsíci

      So then I can make my own description of God because I don't comprehend him fully like the pagans do? Or should I stick to the simple concept of what our Creator taught us throughout all history and prophets which is he is only one God period!

    • @WeAreGhuraba
      @WeAreGhuraba Před 4 měsíci

      We are given logic to know truth from falsehood. If ur logic is contradictory and u scapegoat it by claiming it's a mystery, then why try explaining it? We can literally rip apart this whole concept with the help of the old testament and the new testament themselves, which is an added issue for you.

    • @lxmzhg
      @lxmzhg Před 4 měsíci

      @@WeAreGhuraba
      *“We can literally rip apart this whole concept with the help of the old testament and the new testament themselves, which is an added issue for you.”*
      Then let’s see what you have - go ahead & rip it apart, I dare you.

    • @WeAreGhuraba
      @WeAreGhuraba Před 4 měsíci

      @@lxmzhg I don't know why you're surprised when much of your tradition doesn't even belong to you, and they believe as the Muslims believe, which is monotheism. Anyways, according to Jesus in john 17:3, who is the only true God?

  • @abohemo9714
    @abohemo9714 Před rokem +2

    Libyano Stop interrupting again dude it's annoying trying to explain for him as if it make anu sense just let him dig a hole for himself

  • @LADavis-ih3ok
    @LADavis-ih3ok Před 2 měsíci +1

    I want to find these discussions interesting and even fruitful. That is not possible. Christian theology as it is articulated by any Christian is unintelligible, incoherent, and more often than not circular.
    25:05 At this point three things are ringing in my head: Surah Ikhlas, Surah Al-Kafiruun, & ayat'ul Kursi.
    I'm done.

  • @jackmoody5416
    @jackmoody5416 Před rokem

    The title is misrepresenting what CatholicTraditionalist said. Start at 44:40 and you'll see that he says there is not 3 persons of the Father, as in father#1, father#2 and father#3. Instead, he means the being of the Father is God, and God exists as 3 persons, namely the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

    • @Suleiman212
      @Suleiman212 Před rokem +11

      The title is a direct quote from him. The title says nothing about father #1, father #2, father #3. It simply says "The Being of the Father is 3 Persons," which is exactly what he said.

    • @JakeBrancatella
      @JakeBrancatella  Před rokem +15

      It's literally a quote from the video, which he repeated numerous times.

  • @toodammmnhigh9574
    @toodammmnhigh9574 Před rokem +5

    Explaining trinity is insane it’s completely ridiculous damaging brain🤯🤯⚰️🪦

  • @nazeemsolomons9446
    @nazeemsolomons9446 Před 10 měsíci +1

    If u ask 5000 Christians to explain the trinity, ull get 5000 different answers, they try to make the impossible, possible, what a joke.

  • @Sophia_Tal
    @Sophia_Tal Před rokem +2

    it's triune beings all the way down