Removing front subframe assembly
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2022
- 1968 Pontiac Firebird restoration project, removal of front subframe. Needing to remove the subframe to replace or repair any of the driveline we got it out in a two car garage.
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That orange pontiac motor looks right at home in that bird 😎
Not sure why they painted it orange
@VVG Firebird Restoration Station maybe because the car is somewhat orange. They were trying for the Foose engine bay maybe. Or might have been the only paint they had
Hard telling, if cars could talk the stories they would tell.
I'm glad too see the progress/process that I'm about to get into in a one car Garage! 🚗 😆 lol
Right on, It can be done!
If you leave the core support and radiator on the subframe it balances out Nicely and you can roll the entire thing like a wheelbarrow.
Well about that. .. 🙃 kinda already pulled the engine/Trans , so it be even worse huh!? Lol
Thanks for the video!, I feel a bit more confendent on doing my own!
Right on. Good luck too!
Chin Wong break bricks with hands...
6x6 or 4x4 post cut into pieces work great and even Chucky Norris cant snap those!!
Oh snap we have challenge I wonder if chuck Norris will tell you he can’t break a 4x4. Wish I had his number.
Great work! You talk about getting into a hurry…I have the same issue. The older I get I start to really think about the tendencies I have to get something done like a kid on Christmas morning and then get frustrated when I make a mistake, but like you say that’s normal to make mistakes hindsight being 20/20, but one thing I appreciate is how much this hobby gives me time to notice when I’m getting into a rush or getting frustrated and actually helps me to work on myself while I work on my car. Everyone I know thinks I’m weird because my “relaxing” is not sitting down doing nothing it’s doing this. So I have to stop myself when I get frustrated and remind myself these problems we run into while doing this are all part of the fun.
Well said and could not agree with you more. Car building is great therapy for me and definitely a thing for personal growth.
Looks a lot easier than I would have thought. I got a little further into mine and there is more rust damage than I thought in the cowl area but the firewall seems ok. The main problem area is a 1/4 to 1/2" gap between the firewall and cowl seam that starts behind the wiper motor and goes just past the brake booster. I want to get this thing going before its too hot in Texas to drive it so I think I may just pull off the wiper motor and booster, cut a straight-ish line in the cowl, drill the spot welds holding the leftover strip of cowl metal to the firewall and just weld in a patch piece. It is super thin, looks like 20ga so should be pretty easy to shape, just have to try not to burn through it too much when welding. The brackets for the astro-vents are completely trashed so its going to have to come all apart but I don't have the time or space to deal with that big of a project right now (plus I am less than a year out from spending 30+ hours in the garage per week on my Scout restoration and my wife won't tolerate another one so soon). I think I am just going to patch it up and get it back on the road and when it is ready for new paint in 10-15 years do a second restoration only do it right this time.
Sounds like a good plan, it’s not heavy gauge steel it should form nicely like you said. The are you are talking about i a common rust area because the low spot in the Cowl collects dirt then moisture.
The scout is neat project too. I know someone doing rockers and lower panels All around on his now.
Great video brother for those that never did it this will be a big help
Thanks I thought it was worth mentioning
Congratulations on simply unscrewing the four body bolts
Yes and I didn’t make a mess……well sort of. I let the back down to low, only 2 bricks and the trans leaked all over the floor from the tail housing
NICE JOB... BUT bricks... id go with wood chunks lighter and easier and they just dont break
Hey the bricks where in the garage when I bought the house and I love Lego’s more then Lincoln logs.
fun stuff
I only wish I could work that fast for real. Imagine how many car I could get done!
Thanks for the video, really helpful. I’ve got the motor and trans out now on my ‘69 convertible, fenders and sub frame next. Been putting off removing the ‘69 dash, not sure how to go about it. Any videos or tips? The fasteners on the inside near the headlight switch I’m not seeing how to get at.
No videos yet, I can tell you how to remove the headlight switch and I might do a video because it might be a lot simpler to understand that way. First step disconnect battery if you haven’t so far. Next you will need to pull the switch to the on position while depressing the release button which is found on the base of the switch from backside of the dash. It’s hard to describe but if you pulled up a photo of the switch online you will see what looks like a button about 1/4” tall and in diameter with a tiny spring keeping it up. You need to push that in while pulling the knob out of the switch. That should allow you to pull the knob completely from the switch which then expose the nut that holds the dash panel and switch to the steel part of the dash. This nut is supposed to require a special socket but a pair of needle nose plies will work to grab the two slots and turn it off. Hope this helps.
@@VinylVillageGarage Just add, sometimes that push-to-release button is not always on the bottom as mine was on the top of the switch. Just trying to help out here!
Very true! Thanks
Does anything need to be done differently with a convertible with a/c? Obviously the a/c lines need to be disconnected. Any measurements needed for putting the subframe back on?? Thanks for the great info!
Not really much different from A/C to non a/c cars or convertibles. Like you said the lines are about the only difference.
Keep this in mind if you are not doing anybody work or plan to reinstall the subframe without any changes or repairs do this first. unfortunately I did not show or do it to this car but something to note before you pull the subframe is look at the firewall mounting points and Inspect the small like 5/8” alignment holes that goes between the subframe and frame mounts on the firewall and see how close they are as for lined up. I typically use like a 10mm deep well socket on an extension like an alignment pin to set the location of the subframe. Just saying see if the socket will slide thru both side and thru the frame and body. If they do reassemble the subframe with the “alignment” pin/socket in place to keep things lined up.
Where are you storing all of your parts while restoring the car. This is one of my problems with doing this in a two car garage. Also where are you keeping all of your tools?
I stacked a lot of it up in front of the car. But larger items right after tear down like doors, fenders and hood got stored outside behind the garage until ready for repair. As for tool I have my large
Tool box in front of cars and my welder is on a cart. Then the compressor is on the far wall in the corner. Tight fit but it’s what I have
To work with.
Will you media blast the body?
Yes. I plan to do
Some more cutting and replacing of a few panels first.
Do you prefer LS or pontiac v8 for old pontiacs. Debating LSA, LS3 or pontiac v8 461 with holley terminator for my 1970 GTO. Pontiac stuff just have gotten so expensive.
Very good Question, I have one that is LS powered and two that are Pontiac powered. LS is just a 5.3 LM7 love the reliability and fuel economy especially now. I have a 494 Pontiac have yet to drive it much car is still being assembled but it has ludicrous power but it was a bit costly to build. To answer the question if you asked me 5 years ago, conventional Pontiac ONLY but now after building and driving and LS for the last 3 years….. either is a great choice. Both ways can get costly in the pursuit of power. Do whatever you want it’s your car, I am very pleased with either one.
Thanks this helps
No problem. Wish the CZcamss would let you send pictures I would really like to see some pictures of your GTO. I like my 1969 but 1970 is my favorite year.