LEAKED DVC Revamp: New WDI Hires HATED Previous Designs, Now Pushing Cheap, Tiny Units | Moderate
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- LEAKED DVC Revamp: New WDI Hires HATED Previous Designs, Now Pushing Cheap, Tiny Units | Moderate
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I stayed in the refurbished BWV 1 bdrm in January. I thought that the design was cheap looking. I wondered why Disney would create a room that in no way measured up to its predecessor, and then I remembered Splash Mountain.
Those are not cabins. Cabins have wood in them that is what gives them that rustic feel.
Looks like a Bob Iger Trailer Park to me.
Those new "cabins" can also be found at RV resorts for a fraction of the price. Why would you pay a Disney premium and subscription fee for those things? So much for the Disney Difference!
I wanted to go to Fort Wilderness, but now I don't. Good job, Disney.
They look like FEMA trailers
Disney: "By the power of cheapness I turbocharge you!"
One bathroom for 6 people. My idea of a fun vacay.
Buahahha. The new “cabins” look like mobile homes.
Come to Disney and stay in a double wide 😂
They are mobile homes
Double wides cost extra. 😂 More like tiny houses. 😂
it's the all new FEMA experience! :)
@@eclipsehorse8693🤣🤣🤣
Fort wilderness cabins look like FEMA trailers.
Looks like state park outdoor toilets
The new "cabins" look like a tool shed lodged between 2 porta-potties.
It’s a shame that they are removing frontier theming from the parks and the resorts. There’s no way these new cabins look like they belong in a place called Fort Wilderness that has a bar named after Davy Crockett and a dinner show called Hoop-De-Doo Musical Review. I’m sure those are the next things that will change 🤦♀️
oh they won't get rid of the bar- cause that's alcohol sales.. and Hoop-de-do review will prolly get turned into a Disney style drag show...
Looks like they are putting the cart before the horse again. Why build more hotel capacity when your parks can barely support the crowds they currently have. They need to improve guest experience before trying to pack in more of them.
Looks like mobile sanitation trailers ive used at golf and tennis tournaments
Wow, its the same size as the failed Star wars hotel experience. Waste of $$
They look like cargo container!! Nothing special at al,. Hanging a picture with a Disney character is not theming. For these cans or any site resort. Shame.
Probably built using one.
Those things look like a trailer park not a cabin lol.
We used to go to WDW just to stay on property and enjoy the resort. We stayed at Saratoga Springs in the treehouse for 3 nights and never went to the parks once. Loved it!!! Once Disney takes the theming and design out of the resorts, there is no reason to go.
Looks more like a trailer park...with a porch 😮
The cabins were also trailers.
This is a mobile home park.
100%
Disney meets Trailer Park Trash is the vibe these new "cabins" give.
Nothing in this screams FORT or WILDERNESS.
sunnyvale trailer park all the way!😂
'ya want wilderness? go tah Magik Kingdom and git drunk- start fight'n other guests!'
I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking about the state of Disney. They are in really big trouble, here are some reasons:
1. Epic Universe
2. lowered standards
3. going political
4. catering to only one side and ignoring the other.
5. not staying neutral.
At the end of the day Disney is a business and the path that they are on is bad for business.
Disney needs to delouse the Mouse.
it’s only a matter of time before the newer generations lose interest. the movies and shows play a huge part in the obsession. all the latest disney entertainment is political woke garbage. it’s eventually going to catch up with them. and to make it accelerate disney how about you homogenize all the resorts! oh you are already doing that, perfect.😂😂😂 people in charge at disney are f**king morons. literally
Not ignoring the other side. Shaming them for being terrible human beings.
I’m SO glad I talked my sister out of joining DVC. I feel so bad for the folks who bought in and are watching its value plummet, while the costs only go up.
Speaking of sisters... I was SO MAD at my sister when I found out she sold her DVC membership around 10-15 years ago without telling me. Because I would have JUMPED on it, and taken it over. Now? Looks like I owe her a dozen roses over what Disney has done - not only to DVC, but to the company and WDW in particular.
Oh, and last time I was at WDW (2018) I stayed in those "horrendous" cabins - loved them! 💘
I don’t think all DVC values will plummet. The Cabins is part of DVC III. The original 14 DVC resorts will hold their value. Riviera i and Disney Land Tower are DVC II. Resale can only be used at those resorts. The Cabins are part of a DVC Trust making them different than any other DVC.
Lol. Relax, the sky is not falling with DVC as much as people would like it to be.
We have a large family and have only stayed at the cabins in fort wilderness since 2000, most recently last summer. These new cabins are completely out of place. They do not fit into the theme of the resort and just kill the feeling, there is no rustic in these "cabins." I also feel like this will really destroy the community feeling in the fort wilderness community. Quite frankly, there is too many windows in the new cabins. I am just at a loss, and they have cut out now a significant option for large families as you can put your kids to bed (or let them cry lol) without worrying about who is over, under or next to you. I will say, the washing machine banks are pretty convenient despite the fact they are not in your cabin, and we stay for between 5 and 6 days. The cast members I talked to were not excited...
They look like small single-wide trailers. What a waste.
The fact that the company is bashing the stuff guests have always loved (in this case, the cabins), says a lot about the people who are making the decisions.
Where is Bubbles gonna put his shed?
With the price and look of these things you might as well just buy a tow behind camper…
We have stayed in the log cabin style cabins many times- stayed one last time this past weekend- and while I would agree that they needed an update, these new cabins are NOT the solution. Google any wilderness-type cabin anywhere in the country and you will not find white shaker style cabinets. The interior and exterior is so off-theme that I cannot understand how the imagineers that designed them actually went to design school.
Because the current crop of imagineers weren't hired for their expertise or creativity....
Being a East-Coast Canadian, I've seen hundreds of these things on highways - they're half sections of a two-part 'mobile home'.
Well-built? Lots of space? Long-lived? Um, well...uh...
DE-Theming that's what going on right now, Disney no longer does Theming
This is more DEI and stories matter program bullshit- the same architect and designer that destroyed the boardwalk resort and The Grand Floridian is esponsible for this...
Downgrade on theming is why I WON’T stay at any of these places. The charm was one of two reasons to stay on site, and with half the incentive gone, and the astronomical costs for the same room as a Holiday Inn, it isn’t worth it (I guess the new theming is basically going to be Mickey themed artwork, which I’m now expecting to be of the quality someone printed on a laser jet & framed).
I am an adult (and I know I’m in good company) but I preferred Disney because it had so many rides I could enjoy. I had neck surgery over a decade ago and I can’t even tolerate Big Thunder (as I learned to my dismay about 3-5 years ago when we went with a long-time cast member friend). So, despite park attendance being at their lowest levels in goodness knows how long, their rides breaking down at increasing frequencies, & things looking increasingly shabby, I’m NOT going to pay extra to stay on park…. IF I even had plans to go. But as it is, I’m not going to pay ANYTHING to go, because I’m not going, because their execs have called me and many like me “the problem” (and they’re RIGHT, we ARE the problem, but the solution isn’t for US to change, it’s for the company to make a product its audience wants. Never seems to end well if a company tries to gaslight its customers; Disney isn’t a utility, & even if they were, there are always available options. The beauty of capitalism is that a company can only screw up so much before their customers get tired of it, and it has reached that point for me.) I’m with Lorn on this one, whatever he said they would need to do to get HIM back, that’s what I want, and will continue to agree with his learned opinion.
They can say all they want about me, and I have every right to say “feeling’s mutual, b*****”). Sorry for the spiciness, but when everyone in the mainstream has spent nearly a decade gaslighting me & my beliefs, I feel a frustration I think many people feel and I’ve had enough. I don’t care how much magic Disney has, there isn’t enough to grant these people the divine knowledge to understand what lies in ANY person’s heart. I don’t like the things they’ve said about me, and if they don’t care about legitimate complaints that I, as a customer, have with their product, then I don’t have to listen to theirs about me. I don’t have to put up with that, and I’m not. 🤷🏻♀️
those cabins are fine inside. nothing special. the outsides are horrific!! literally looks like sunnyvale trailer park ! what a joke disney imagineering has become😂😂
Did they move the single-wides over from Buena Vista?
Bought DVC & kept for 4 yrs, sold right before Covid & made $10k. I thank my lucky stars every time I think about it. We tried it & got out.
These remodels look like the rooms at Great Wolf Lodge
Is that good or bad?
DVC Covid Camp???
ok thats wrong to put the parents beds right next to the teenagers bunk beds. wtf are they thinking. no ones =staying . there. not if they are functioning adults with hormones.
I want to like what they are doing. But I think their choices on design were awful. and I regret that some profesional architect didnt look it over and slap everyone's wrong choices out of it.
Completely agree. I saw the bunk beds in the main bedroom and it’s an instant no go.
Another angle: at one point, DVC buyers were predominantly from Louisiana and Texas. The oil industry and political situations have changed since the height of DVC sales.
When Disney said IP mining what they really meant was loyal customer mining. I'm not sure which marketing genius came up with the bright idea of cutting quality and raising prices believing customers will just take it but it seems all the major companies have drank this Kool Aid, from fast food to Disney to video games, all of them are attempting to increase revenue by squeezing quarters from their most loyal customers.
Oh and the 2 higher up cabins in the 100 loop used to face each other with a brick firepit thing in the middle. The original word is why because Brittany Spears and her family had it built for them. Rumor, not sure.
But the new cabins do not face each other and they removed the brick firepit thing.
Also washer and dryers are at the comfort station and cost $
Those storage containers look hideous.
Was there just 2 weeks ago. They have like metal piping welding together that they assemble on-site and build out
they resemble the "cabins" that you can rent sometimes at public camp grounds. I bet the inside is one open room with a built in kitchenette, two or three beds, a bath and basic furniture. And not much else.
I don't know if they look like containers to me. They look like Ikea vomited on a KOA and overcharged for it.
I am also strangely reminded of the Galactic Starcruiser when I see those rooms...
I love the description "container farm" It is spot on. DCF 🤣
How much longer until Disney gets desperate enough to start partnering up with Universal for travel packages with DVC, I wonder?
Cabins look like any quick renovation on hgtv
The unit you put up onscreen looks like a shipping container with a front porch stuck on it. Or maybe a single-wide.
DVC management missed there mark on this move with not understanding their consumer. DVC owners really aren’t interested in glam-ping. There are no real amenities that sre exclusive to DVC with this purchase either. Also, these locations need golf carts or a car to help get around. The maintenance fees are the contracts are one of highest too. It appears this was a way for Disney to get these cabins maintenance paid while still selling them for cash stays. I would be nervous if I was a DVC owner watching the company’s financials and direction. its very possible that once was atypical timeshare model will turn into a typical timeshare where an owner cannot get out from under the contract via resale as there’s not enough buyers in the market looking for a contract to buy.
> Turbocharge the parks
Turbo charging just stuffs in a lot of hot air unless there's real fuel to go with it.
Bruh, those are sheds. For real, I just priced one to go in my back yard.
Why should my family spend money for less?!
They are not made offsite. They are making them there. Was there a few weeks ago and saw it in progress
Hold on, are they beefing up "capacity" at parks that are experiencing record low customer attendance and interest?
Theming as a concept is gone. Everything new is flat and boring. Downtown Disney I’m sure will be bland by the time they are done.
Dvc huge hassle and waste of money for customers huge payout for Disney Od thd new cabins are ugly in every way Not woodsy camper natural oriented at all
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Look like FEMA trailers 😂
I think the only Disney-esque area I want to go to is Tokyo Disneyland and Tokyo Disney Sea.
These do look a lot like grandma’s trailer at the trailer park.
To be fair, if you google ft wilderness cabins, the old ones were the same size and had the same living arrangement.
Right but they were marketed as moderate and priced accordingly. I could book a room for one of them this summer at $280 a night. The dues on the new cabins would cost almost that and that ignores having to pay like $30k to buy the points for a week.
There is no point staying there with the Washer & Dryer. That is the only reason I would stat at a DVC location (since I would have the family for an extended time).
Fort Wilderness has laundromat and shower buildings (Disney calls them "comfort stations) scattered about the campground. The cabins have their own dedicated Comfort Stations.
So basically disney brings in a OVER priced trailer park and calls it a good idea? the local tornadoes will be waiting to blow that shit all over the map!
At least they're getting that new DVC restaurant, lounge and preview center in the old Wonders of Life Building.
"modern meets rustic"
cheap meets chintz
Those "new cabins" suck!
So this is Disney's Trailer Park? Shouldn't this be next to the Bayou? Do they play 'Trailerhood' 24/7? (RIP Toby Keith)
The only thing that really matters to Disney is, how are the new units selling? Even if the old units have reduced value, it doesn't matter unless it impacts the new sales.
I stayed at Kadani Village at Animal Kingdom a couple of months ago with gifted points and it was awesome. And full.
A few years ago you could rent points from third party folks for $12 or $14/point. Now it is $20/point. So in some ways, the prices have gone up, even as the park attendance has gone down.
Is there a moral threshold at which point you'll stop supporting Disney?
If it matters the first two months of sales for fortwillderness we’re abysmal. Intersting to see how April does but so far on track to be one of the worst selling dvc ever.
@@casualcausalityy Good question! In today's world we pretty much have to walk the line because so few companies are in alignment with my beliefs.
My support of Disney was, in my opinion, minimal. My week's stay was gifted to me with DVC points. All but one of my park days were old forever tickets from about 18 years ago. So I spent under $500 for a week there, including food, for two people.
And finally Reflections permit was just renewed.....
Went to the original Polynesian it was fun! Should leave alone!
They took a page from their China Disney World internment camp it seems
Disney meets trailer park boys.
So I’ll give an alternative view. As a DVC owner, I’m excited for these cabins. We already have one booked for July for 6 nights. You also can’t compare them to the Cascade Cabins. Our 6 nights is the same amount of points as 1 night in those.
We stayed once in the old cabins in 2016. They were extremely dark and the floor creaked A LOT. The layout though is similar except that these are a little bigger which allows the big bed in the bedroom to be larger. Also the bathroom is at the other end instead of the middle. I think I will prefer this. The points are also an excellent value. Our 6 nights is the same amount as a BLT lake view studio would be.
However, with that said, we won’t purchase there. The cost per point is just too high for us now. Also, the maintenance fees here are very high. And finally, they haven’t added anything special for owners, no new pool, community hall, nothing. There is no benefit to owning there. I think they missed the mark on how they executed this project, but I am still excited we have the option as owners to book there.
At this point it seems to be more socially acceptable to get drunk & puke then go to Disney
More of economically sound also🤭
Are all upcoming DVC designs lousy, or just this one? Not that the answer makes this any better.
Sorry but they look like a trailer park... Am I wrong?
Modern meets Ugly
Bonnet Creek isKing
Some of you are a bunch of whiners. I've been DVC since 2010 with my home resort being AKL and the points I purchased have been worth every single penny. I've been able to stay in a Deluxe resort a minimum of once a year every year since then, which I could not afford to do otherwise, so it has been great for my family. The best part about DVC is that you have the opportunity to stay at a wide variety of resorts so if you don't like these new "cabins" you can choose Riviera, or Beach Club, or AKL, or BWV, just to mention a few, until you find your favorite. If someone with a limited number of points wants to stay in these cabins then more power to them. At least you're at Disney, where you can still find/have Magic if you're not close minded and narcistic. Peace.
Not accurate at all. DVC is not getting into a lower cost moderate category. The cabins are priced the same as Riviera. In fact, when you add in annual dues, which are more, the cabins are more expensive. This is just a different offering appealing to a different demographic. Not a downgrade or lower financial barrier to entry.
Disney trailer park
The cabins look decent, definitely not as horrid as yall made it out to be. The color scheme is nice, they blend with their surroundings. Sure, they’re not quite expressive like the Disney we love but still…. To compare them to shipping containers is short sighted.
Most people aren’t worried about washing their clothes on vacation unless they’re the high and mighty consumer so often complained about. Who has time to wash their clothes on a Disney trip?
Look past the wooden porch. Where I'm from they're called ATCO trailers, portable work camps
Almost all international guests need laundry facilities.
@@onehorseopensleigh I’m sure there will be close by amenities
I guess to each their own. People have different vacation habits… I was at Disney just two weeks ago for 10 days and I washed clothes twice during that time. We pack less and then get home without dirty laundry which is very relaxing to me…. We aren’t the type of family that ropes drops to fireworks. We go with the flow, maybe go to a park for a couple of hours and don’t plan anything much otherwise. To me a go go go overly planned vacation isn’t my style.
@@leftfinned the average guest does not have that kind of money…. Especially if this is the “discount resort”.
the mroe they carter to Millennials sense of ugliness the more we suffer
This is one of the pitfalls of capitalism, in the quest to make ever more money, then last year, companies are tempted to cut corners and raise prices. Do that enough and quality suffers, causing customers to look for better value somewhere else. Which causes the unintended result of lower profits.
So they ruined my family’s fun for the last 30 years!