Charles Oakley on why Patrick Ewing wasn't Michael Jordan | Ep. 44 | Club Shay Shay
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- Charles Oakley tells Shannon why Patrick Ewing wasn’t on the same level as Michael Jordan.
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Charles Oakley on why Patrick Ewing wasn't Michael Jordan | Ep. 44 | Club Shay Shay
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How many Championship should the Knicks have won with Ewing?
Atleast 1 more than they did.
1, they could have won the title in 1994 over the Rockets but blew that game 6 and 7.. I thought they could have had that one. That team was SOLID, without the Bulls being in the East they probably go to multiple finals and possible won one more more.
None...Hahahaha. You guys are really trying to deny how dominant Hakeem was, huh.
@@seancagney1369 Hakeem was the best player in that series vs the Knicks. Hakeem was an A and Patrick Ewing was a B.
They should have won in 1994 game 6
Patrick Ewing was definitely carrying the Knicks while Charles Oakley was missing layups
Exactly
LMAO!
Charles Oakley talking about Patrick like he was a 5 point a game guy lol
He acting like they got spanked by Houston it went 7 games. He just mad at Ewing.
The Knicks just didn't have enough scorers, and Ewing was the ONLY Hof player on the team
Hakeem was the only HOF of his team too though
@@yvans. True
@@yvans. I don't know, you could make a case for Sam Cassell and Robert horry also he had drexler
@@b9479 BRO HE DIDN'T HAVE DREXLER THE YEAR THEY PLAYED THE NIX AND HORRY AND CASSELL AIN'T NO HOF 🤣
PLUS CASSEL WAS A ROOKIE AND HORRY WAS SECOND YEAR. DREAM WON WITH A BUCKET OF CHICKEN THAT YEAR🍗😂😂😂💯
@@chrisdacrisis4670 John starks is a good sixth man at best
Ewing was def an A player. Mike is just in a class of his own.
While Ewing wasnt getting the Knicks past Jordan and the Bulls, he was still a choke artist regardless
NOT as a LEADER!!!
@@3dgelord187 you’re a choke artist - Ewing done more than you ever have or will
@@3dgelord187 choke artist? How old are you!? Patrick Ewing was a beast and a warrior that carried a franchise and made them relevant for a decade as well as contenders on bad f'n knees that seemed like they got worse every year that he played.
Ewing got blocked by Muggsy Bogues 😅😄😅
Oak a hater. He couldn't make a layup. Patrick carried those knick teams.
He carried them for sure.
Oakley mastered that long 2point shot when he got to the knicks ,he was the OG and had everyone back on his team's. A real rider.
Mastered what ?
@@bjjohnson9710 the mid long 2pointer from the power forward spot but he was more known for enforcer attitude
😂😂😂 Oak said he sacrificed shots like he could have averaged 25 a game...Ewing was the driving force on very competitive Knicks teams & played on bad knees most of his career...Jordan & the Bulls were the reason a few teams didn't win championships...he's still upset that Ewing didn't "speak up" for him after the MSG incident, on top of trying to sell a book...this has become tiring
Very tiring. The fact that he was not the second best player on the Knicks but he has a lot of mouth. I actually thought that they should have traded him and kept Mason. Mason had more skills plus he could also defend without less drama. I saw Oak the same day he got into a brawl, midday on 34 th street. He seemed cool at the time. But he was clearly drunk in the garden. Dolan should have left him alone but he was an easy target. He gets thrown out of many places in the same manner
He had 2 years when jordan was gone and still disappeared against all stars, like he did all the time. He was a good player but not the beast people keep having nostalgic thoughts of. John starks was the heart of that team and Pat was the face.
I’m sorry! I always liked Oakley but I’m shocked and extremely disappointed at his consistent disrespect for Patrick Ewing. Ewing carried the Knicks on his back for 15 years with no real superstar talent and coaches. Had he been able to retain Mark Jackson or Rod Strickland he’d be an NBA champion! If Bernard King hadn’t been traded to Washington he’d be a champion! If the Knicks kept Pat Riley he’d be a champion! The point here is that Ewing had some bad breaks in his career! If just one of the aforementioned things had happened, his career would have been different. I don’t know what happened between Oakley and Ewing but Charles is very disrespectful and unfair in his personal assessment of Patrick Ewing! In truth, Charles was a C+ player. Patrick Ewing is an all time 50 greatest player in NBA history! Facts 💯
Nuff said ,Oak is salty but I love him!
True~ glad Shannon immediately asked him about his current feelings about Patrick after oak gave that wack assessment of Ewings skills
Ewing became more offensive in the pros. He was the Knicks' best player as far as scoring. In college, he was more defensive. At Georgetown, pure shot blocker in the paint.
Oakley is lucky he had a career in the NBA because by today's standards the closest Oakley would have got to the MSG is working as security on the doors.
Knicks needed a player like Mitch Richmond that is all
Oak says this but he couldn't help the scoring load at all. Hakeem had shooters all over. Knicks had Starks going 4-18
facts
Lol any of the players from Houston staring 5 shoot over 40% from the field besides Hakeem so that’s not true.
The Key matchup was Dream vs Pat and we all know what happened
Speak on it
@@yvans. what's good Oak? Good interview but you capin right here.
@@yvans. BOOM everyone acts like Houston wasn't trash that year EXCEPT for Dream. That year Dream literally said AYO EFF THIS I'M GETTING RINGS WHETHER Y'ALL COMING OR NOT😂😂😂
Patrick Ewing was a two-time Olympic champion, a college champion, the greatest Knicks franchise player of all time and is in the World Basketball Hall of Fame. Now the question is: What did Charles Oakley gain in his career?
It’s fair to say that Oaks take was wrong which it was in talking down on Ewing. But it’s cool to disagree without trying to portray Oak as a bum. He was a good defender, good rebounder and he was the enforcer on the team. He played different game than being the team star. He wasn’t the star of a Ewing but he was a strong piece of those Knicks teams so let’s not pretend that his bad take, influenced by personal feelings, means that he was a bum and didn’t have a solid career for a ton of years.
2 seconds into Oak talking about hubby got me sayin' *"PAUSE"....*
If my wife don't desire me like Oakley does Jordan, I don't need a wife.
You must have Lebrons nuts dangling in your mouth…
@@2trillfortv840 Get ur hands outta the vaseline and get out of ur fantasies bro... LOL!
Shannon letting Oak get away with saying some BS dude act like he scared to challenge Oak on what he say
Yeah Oakley didn’t help Ewing much at all
Shannon is interviewing him, asking for Oakley's opinion and perspective. He's not there to interject his opinion.
@@mustermas exactly
@@LegitLaughs1 it's a weak ahh interview
shannon just had hip surgery he dont want those problems
The New York Knicks really had to wait for you mr. Charles Oakley I see you miss wide-open layup championships but you got an opinion about everybody else
EXACTLY!!
P. Ew missed the widest open of layips in the conference finals lol
@@3dgelord187 but what did Oakley do ? Ewing was only reason they were there
Okaley must have been a nightmare to be a team-mate with. He's just a bully and not a nice person to be around period. He must have had an awful childhood.
Pat just had never ending knee problems
after Pat Riley decided to run a 7footer into the ground in. his first year. Ewing aint complained, he handled business. Thank you for acknowledging.
I wondered what was really bothering him about Ewing. Now that he explained it I understand where he's coming from. They just need to sit down and hash things out. They had some good years together.
Exactly. That explained it all, lol.
He's a b*tch and a Jordan groupie. Dude has no credibility whatsoever. He wouldn't even be a rotation player in today's game.
I aint feeling Oak talking about Pat like this. Couldnt ask for anything more from Pat. I think he just tight about the whole Dolan Garden thing.
The world according to Charles Oakley...
Saying mike was A and pat was B.. idk if oak is statistically qualified to phrase it quite like that 😂😂 ...oak telling pat he coulda did more but he was averaging 10 🤣🤣
A player, B player. I took care of Patrick for 10 years. Michael was the it factor. Patrick was just a player. Charles wild. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wassup willie d
Charles is bitter… Ewing wasn’t a B player because he carried those Knick teams.. 94 I think they ran out of gas. They played 2 7 game series to get to that finals n that finals was a 7 game finals
@@cv1368 yeah Oakley talking crazy
@@cv1368 Yeah,he bitter. He's blaming Ewing for everything,wrongfully too. Ewing played HARD every game,the Knicks didn't have enough scorers/shooters. And as for him diving for loose balls,playing hurt,etc,etc,....he recieved a salary for it. The dude can't score 10 pts or grab 10 boards a game,so you did those things to stay in the nba. LOL.
@@powerbad696 exactly !!! 😂
Hey basketball fans I played cards with Jordan which means I was the face of the 90s Knicks, you’re welcome - Oakley
Accurate
Oakley sound crazy. Oak's skill set is why he had to do the dirty work. An unathletic power forward with no hops or shot blocking ability. Stop it Oak
Yeah he’s delusional
Marcus Camby was better than Charles Oakley
He said he had to make sacrifices to his game 😂 😂
@@cv1368😂 😂 😂
@@pedrojustice6341 they gonna have to drug test oak after statements like that… 😆 😂
Just remember everyone... the Bulls began winning championships when they traded Oakley to the Knicks for Bill Cartright. Discussion over. Oakley needs to sit his behind down.
Na Oak! Ewing played his hardest in the NBA and college. He just lacked enough talent to beat some of the great players who stopped him from winning a championship.
He won a chip in college. Beat Hakeem.
@@cv1368 Hakeem had a better team than Ewing in pros
@@cv1368 Had a way better team in college than Dream tho.
@@mustermas Not in 94 that’s narrative.
Besides Hakeem no one on Houston starting 5 shots over 40% from the field.
The key match up was Pat vs Dream.
And Hakeem played great defense and was clutch in offense
@@yvans. Houston had better bench. N clutch. A lot of them came up clutch like Sam cassell game 3 n mad max
OAK HATING!!! SAD TO SAY
Ewing was an A player. He just wasn't Jordan. Quite a few "A" players around that still weren't the caliber of Jordan.
Good grief. The Knicks wouldn't have even been a factor at all if not for Ewing. No reason Oak should be disrespecting Ewing like that unless he's just trying to sell books like Pippen.
Shay was out of line for that question
Agreed ‼️
It's interesting that all these guys go on these shows to talk about Mike, yet the one guy who they can't get to appear is Mike himself. The GOAT don't need to explain anything to nobody.
Hakeem was better than Ewing.. 95 Ewing had a calf injury that limited his production against the Pacers. Oak has been talking this mess about Ewing for years.. But hey this dude stunk it up in a lot of big playoff games.. A lot of them..
It’s impossible to compare players, especially if they play different positions or have different roles for their team. At the end of the day how you feel about a player is an OPINION.
So if Ewing is a B player, what is Oakley????! Smh
😂 😂 a d player … Oakley bitter ..
Oak wasnt the one that was supposed to be a superstar. Ewing was.
@@3dgelord187 oak needs to know his roll he was a role player and Ewing had mediocre teammates who couldn’t help him . They get paid too
We don't have a letter for a player of his low-level ability in the English alphabet.
Oak man is so true
Nobody slap Oakley harder than James Dolan 🤣🤣🤣
Oakley is a weirdo. He was the one who put up monster numbers in college and was not quite the same NBA player, not Patrick Ewing. Ewing fulfilled his job as the A player, the problem is that he did not have enough help. Starks did the best he could, but he was no Pippen or Stockton. Oakley could not be depended upon offensively. We were happy to get 10 points from him. He should be ashamed of himself for running his mouth about big Pat like this.
Well said.
Oakley and ewing were the right choice for the Knicks. No one touching the rim vs them
Oakley, Just answered anyone's questions about wether young players should come out of college early!😏👈🏾 Think about the the injury risks early or pay them boys...
Oh I agree
Ewing not backing up Oakley, after being tossed out of the Garden, seems to be the reason he's so harsh on Ewing.
I agreed with him especially with the comparison between Patrick Ewing and Hakeem Olajuwon. Hakeem had a lot of better players around him, and Hakeem is just the DR34M.
Great interview Oak
Ewing missed that layup and that was that. Should have dunked it.
Charles Oakley is lowkey right
Honest to God I have been saying the same thing Oak said about Ewing in regards to them being more successful if he played like the Georgetown Ewing ( the MEANEST college player EVER).Intimidator, shot blocker rebounder.I respect Ewing for becoming one of the best jump shooting centers ever, but he fell in love with offense and his jumper and I think that hurt the team.He also didnt like when Don Nelson tried to have Anthony Mason as a point forward which was a match up nightmare for the defense.I think Ewing wanted his cake ( 20+ pts per game) and to win a championship, but sometimes in order to win, you must sacrifice part of your game.I also felt if the Knicks could've pried away John Thompson for 2 years from Georgetown to coach the Knicks he would be the only guy Ewing would listen to and he would've played like the Georgetown Ewing.
Any idea of where that decision to fall back on defense might 've come from? 'Cause if that's the case, Ewing is the one who stopped himself from getting a championship.
@@athirdwhy9734 I just think Ewing felt offense was more important to the team.I don't know if it was the knee issues that decreased his defensive intensity, coach's decision or he just felt it was the only way they could win.But in his defense, he really never had a true #2.
@@missayawk If it was to accommodate him for whatever issue, fine, but I just hope it wasn't just laziness on his part because, even w/out a bonified #2, he came so close. ...For instance, I used to feel sorry for Charles Barkley for never winning a chip until I found out just how lazy he was. Hope this is not what Oak is suggesting about Ewing.
@@athirdwhy9734 I dont think it was laziness from a physical aspect, but could also be laziness mentally.Set in your ways laziness and not open to change.Thats how I see it.If what you're doing is not working and a mad scientist/ genius coach comes in and want you to try to adapt to some new ways and you are resistant? It shows that you dont trust your coach and deep down you lack a winner's mentality.
He holds a grudge against Patrick because he feels like pat didn't have his back when he had pat's.
P. Ew was supposed to be this transcendent player is why. Oak was very disappointed that he wasnt. Like he said... he sacrificed his game so P.Ew might deliver as advertised. He didn't.
@@3dgelord187 interesting... I always thought Ewing was a great shooter, but was super hyped up
@@3dgelord187 Ewing played on bad knees most of his career & made the Knicks relevant & contenders...Oak is acting like he was extremely gifted offensively & could take over games when he felt like...if that was the case, he should have done it...he's upset Ewing didn't say anything about the MSG incident & trying to sell a book...tiring at this point
Oak is buggin…
Patrick was a damned good player, but simply stated, Jordan was on another level all together. With regards to the relationship between Patrick and Charles, I understand fully well that Charles would be hurt following the Madison Square Incident with James Dolan if indeed Patrick did not call him at least a day after the incident to check up on him. They may never have been the best of friends, but unlike Scottie who it is obvious has been jealous and resented Michael secretly for decades, Charles knows his limitations and his role on the team with the Knicks and has no envy for Patrick. As for as Hakeem being a better player than Pat, objectively speaking that is true. But Pat was still a damned good player.
Reggie Miller and Michael Jordan hurt our feelings Big time!!
Oak man
You can tell pat never liked him he's obnoxious
Charles Oakley was the first Kendrick Perkins
Jealously is a ugly thing.
Absolutely. Oakley seems to be bitter man from birth. He must have had a rotten childhood.
Sacrificed shots? Lol he averaged the same in Chicago and ny..plus let's not excuse john starks meltdown like that was on Patrick
A lot of peoples try to underate Patrick Ewing in the lions DEN* but he was a wolf among the killer breeds* YOU HAD TO BRING YOUR LUNCH*
Through be too the Knicks didn't win because they didn't put more scores around him they had tough hard nise guys but he needs a wing player
Imho The Knicks didnot have the athleticism players who could turn the situation up.
You can see that both Charles Oakley and Anthony Mason are rigid and clumsy (I am sorry for saying this ) and John Starks is not really the smart one to fill the all around player criterion. Derek Harper is a good guard but Patrick Ewing needed more than that, which is at least 2 all around players with good atleticism to win 94 final and 95 play off.
More like pat A- and Hakeem A+. He wasn’t totally wrong just doesn’t say it with trying to soften it like most people would. Lol
What? Ewing is........never mind Oak is bugging.
Maybe if Oakley could do more than have his back they'd win more. His game was limited,dude popular but wasn't talented.
Patrick never had a #2 his entire career. I love Starks, but he should've been the #3.
It’s sad he out here trashing Patrick he almost sounds like Scottie now them knicks team had no chance to beat the bulls
Patrick just didn’t pass out of the post enough.
Was NOT in the post a lot later in his career.. He shot those mid range and turnaround jump shots.. Ewing would often catch in his spot and go right into that turnaround jumper..
@@dbreiden83080 you said later in his career. That means at some point in his career he was in the low post. Please leave my comment was for sensible people only.
@@HeBlewInHisEarAndHeLikedit
Sigh fine lets do this..
When did Ewing have his back to the basket, backing people down and giving them power low block moves? Or when did he have move 1, followed by 2 or 3 counters down low like Hakeem? He never had that footwork.. Watch his 51 PT career high highlights on YT in 1990 when he was 27.. 90% of his shots came with this combo of FG attempts.. Catch and shoot about 10-15 feet away.. Sometimes 1 dribble, turn and shoot.. Occasionally he goes to the runner.. He's not backing down his man to draw a double. He goes to his move fast to get rid of the ball.. Is that sensible enough for you little man??
@@dbreiden83080 I knew a 300 word essay was coming. Please keep it moving and get out of your feelings.
@@HeBlewInHisEarAndHeLikedit
"I knew a 300 word essay was coming"
In which you got bent over and spanked little boy.
Ewing was good, but Oakley is correct. Patrick was a notch below the All Time Greats.
probably because he was patrick ewing? thats my guess
Very disappointed in Oak. He is way off base. Ewing was an A player all the way. He didn't have the "B" player he needed to finish it off. Not until 1996 anyway. He was at the end of his prime than.
He just simply can’t take over games like Jordan (or any all time great) could.
In the 1994 Finals he shot under 40% in 6 out of the 7 games.
He also had severe tunnel vision where once he got the ball you almost weren’t gonna get it back.
I gotta rewatch those finals 👀
@Ace Snitch nah any 90’s finals other than bulls vs Suns or bulls vs sonics are kind of boring and bad basketball. I suggest watching some of the mid 70’s nba finals like Celtics vs Suns or Bullets vs Sonic’s in 78.
Knicks didn’t have a good enough team in the 90s
@@Watchingvideoslikeu the 1992 Finals was very exciting.
Nobody took over games like Mike that’s one. And yea he ran of of gas n them knees is wat happen in that finals. They played two 7 game series jus to get there. Oh yea n Hakeem
If Ewing was a B, what was Oak🤔
10 and 10 guy lol
@@eswashin D minus. That was Oak.
As great as Ewing was in NY, he was a MUCH better overall player when he was in Georgetown
So basically he regressed? He was a better scorer and just as good a rim protector in pros but he was a better overall player in college. That makes absolutely no sense.
He got way better offensively. He was better player in the nba
You see the trash he had
to play with? Oak being one of them of course
The worst guy defending you was some college teams best player.
Ewing didnt get worse, the overall talent of the competition was just much better and ewing peaked early
It's COLLEGE!!!
Bro wtf
Oakley should look within when it comes to the Knicks not winning a championship ... Ewing had the weakest supporting cast ever ... Jordan had pippen .. Ewing had Oakley lololol
Micheal wasn’t a rebounder at all
Patrick was a choker
The Miss layup in game 7 against the pacers
A choker that got his team to playoffs every year n helped get them to 2 finals.
No his teammates were choker
Patrick Ewing a great player
The Knicks had the best team in 1996
oak a hater
Pump fake!!!