NBA Legends Explain Why They Hate Bill Laimbeer
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Laimbeer retired 30 years ago and we are still talking about his impact on the game. People stopped talking about Gilbert Arenas 4 years before he retired.
Gilbert Arena who?
Gilbert is talking today like he was shooting a 3 back in the day. He's a career 35% shooter,... just like his opinions. 🤪
@@peteinthedesert7082you know he dropped 60 on Kobe right ? 3x all nba and all star . He just got hurt 😂
@@lilshaan6252 U KNOW DANA BARROS CAN SCORE 60 ANY TIME. I BET U DIDNT KNOW. ARENAS HAD FEW GREAT GAMES AND 2 GOOD SEASONS. I DONT KNOW WHO HE IS. BUT I KNOW3 LAIMBEER CAN SHOOT 3'S BETTER THAN HIM OR MJ OR LEBRON.
Y'all gay as fuck
Bill Laimbeer was the perfect villain, unless you were a Pistons fan.
So true.
Even wore a mask sometimes
He is still my fav pistons player ever! I’m a die hard Bad Boys fan
People just love to hate him. Granted he provided a lot of ammunition.
@@greg3072 exactly! His goal was to wear the black hat for his team!!! He took all the blame for it like true team mate!!
Points - 13,790
Rebounds - 10,400
made over 200 3 pointers - unheard of in his time
Instrumental in winning 2 rings for the Pistons
He also won more rings as a coach
You got it. He played the Heel but is a good guy in person. Some of his defensive antics were physical, but alot were mind games, like holding and hugging after the play.
@@alexeim1966 I don't think he is a good guy in real life, or at least I hope not. I like to believe Laimbeer is one of the most evil men who ever lived.
Don't forget the 10,000 knees stepped on
5,000 faces punched
1,000 jumps speared
and 20 fights triggered.
Exactly
13 years in the league and only missed 9 games that's a huge achievement 👏
13 with Thomas - he was with Cleveland before that.
And he's regarded as the dirtiest player in NBA history that just shows how much more physical the game was 😂
Quite sure most of those were suspensions from fights and over aggressiveness. I never remembered him being on the injury list or serious injury. He even showed up to games with black eyes or bruises from previous fights in games. Tough goon no doubt. Add Rick Mahorn and Dennis Rodman, that was a tuff team. Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars was the best guard duo of all time IMO. Both Hall of Famers. My Dad says that the best guard duo is Walt Frazier and Pearl Monroe. My dad's old, but those two are Hall of Famers also so he's credible.
@@mcentepede Don't Forgot the Brooklyn Bridge Vinnie Johnson! I'm from Detroit the Pistons had a 3 Guard Trio going on!
@@pertburton5586 Yes! And also the Brooklyn Bridge!
Isiah has said Laimbeer is basically blackballed in the NBA re Coaching opportunities and TV work over the years because he never "sold out" on the pistons persona over the years or apologized. Bad Boy for life.
If you believe Isiah then you are nuts.
Too bad for Laimbeer
@@qwertyzxcv123 Yeah, I mean, back when he was a player, I totally couldn't stand him. But back then, as a coach in the women's NBA, he was totally killing it... And of course, he's been getting some unfair treatment because of his "bad boy" past. The only ones who might actually give him a shot would be Detroit, but they're just not giving him that opportunity, so yes is basically blackballed in the NBA.
I could easily believe this. Laimbeer said his dad made more money then him as an NBA player. Therefore never need to sell out and he took PRIDE being the villian
@@stevenschmidt3464Right he came from money. He's in the NBA but his dad makes more. WOW...
Back in the Sega Days. I used Bill Laimbeer to shoot 3's at 6'11" and I was unbeatable in my military days. He was the original stretch 4&5! Very Underated.
Nice adjustment, which game? I have Sega and all the EA games, Lakers vs. Celtics, Lakers vs Bulls, Bulls vs Blazers. I break them out when I see old college buddies. Total blast. It's all out there for cheap on e bay
I remember he had his own game on snes, called "Bill Lambeer's Combat Basketball"
@ericbutler739 lakers vs Celtics was the best
Would he make a bs amount like 16/19? On one of the lives Cleveland had 2 players that shot like that.
He wasnt the original. Jerry Lucas was.
Laimbeer should be in the Hall of Fame. He was a good defender but a good offensive player. He was a great rebounder, he toughened MJ up. Plus players like Divac, Mutumbo, Kukoc, and Wallace are in the Hall he should be as well.
As the video says, Horry did everything that Lambeer did, but better. Horry first, then you can talk about lambeer.
@@tokdo4960Laimbeer 1st. Then Horry.
No he should not he was a piece of crap and the dirtiest player ever it's not lies liesah Thomas.
Divac, Mutombo, Kukoc, and Wallace in the HOF but Laimbeer isn’t is a travesty! I’ll take Bill over every one of them! Guys a dog! Always has been and always will be! Complete DAWG!!!
And then you woke up. 🤣🤣
As a Bulls fan, I was not a Laimbeer fan, but he fit the era of physical play. He was an enforcer, which helped the pistons win back to back titles.
I’m a hometown Pistons fan, I hated to live the Bulls like I did when they were beating EVERYONE, and I absolutely respect everything about your comment. So much respect to you and your team!
If you make it to the pros you got game. If you were on the starting five of an 80s contender than you have serious game. Dude could play and he played against the greats. It may not have been pretty, but Laimbeer could play.
don’t care for isiah but everything he said about laimbeer is true except Kevin love isn’t even close to what laimbeer was. And the little clip, where chick Hearn the all time greatest play by play announcer in any sport, calls laimbeer the best outside shooting big man in the game should tell anybody volumes about how good laimbeer was …
He is unabashed about his intention to seriously injure every opponent on the court, but keep admiring the biggest POS to ever play the game. Go you!@@adrianrabbani3414
Did you hate Rodman?
I’ll share a quote from Isiah Thomas, which I actually agree with: “He frustrates people. He frustrates them because he’s good.”
He was a stretch 4, hit 16-17 footers consistently. Protected his star player Isiah (which is very much needed on that team). Could not jump but lead the league in rebounding a couple years. A role player that is and was needed for a championship run.
Didn't protect him from Karl Malone.
@@MU_STL_FAN1 nah. That dirty stuff was just to get in people's head. The comparison of Laimbeer to Love is a good one. Both guys were limited physically in their prime, yet they were good at getting proper positioning on the floor on both ends. Both were good rebounders because of positioning, ball tracking, and timing. All of the big time rebounders back in the day had their elbows going, so that stuff cancelled out. If Oakley and Ewing and Laimbeer and Mahorn elbowed each other for 40 minutes, all four of them each would finish with 12 rebounds and 12 fresh bruises. Laimbeer didn't have to try to hurt people to get those stats. He tried to hurt people to get in their head and possibly get them to miss a game in a playoff series. And it worked.
@timl9724 you sound like an absolute moron. Of course trying to hurt people who make a living playing basketball will get into their heads. There's a cost to playing a dirty brand of win at all cost basketball. If you doubt that, think of how the entire Pistons team from that era is viewed. They are loathed by anyone who's not a Pistons fan. That's why Isiah didn't play on the Dream Team and also who he's on this public relations tour 30 years later. Because people view them in a different way.
True, he was an enforcer in the league, which helped the pistons.
@@MU_STL_FAN1 the best shooting big man in the game--in the 1980s. Playing dirty will never allow a player to lead the league in rebounding.
Also, the disrespect to Ben Wallace...geez. Ben Wallace didn't win the defensive player of the year 4x because he was just a great off the ball defender. He was a great rebounder, he was a great on-the-ball defended, who was one of the few centers who you could switch to a guard as well. Not to mention he was a tremendous lob threat and offensive rebounder as well.
Set good screens, run the floor, efficient passer with low to’s
He deserved Hof, he is one of the best defenders of all time
Ben Wallace was good, but he was not a Bad Boy. I remember watching the playoffs between the Wallace Pistons and D-Wade Heat. D Wade was driving to the hole with impunity. Not once did Big Ben knock Wade to the ground. Sheesh! Had Wade been playing against the Bad Boy Pistons, either Laimbeer or Rick Mahorn would have knocked him down hard, to teach him respect.
@@kkelleybass If Wade played the bad boy Pistons he would average 30 on them. 💀
@@JimmyButlersdreads And the Detroit backcourt would score 60.
Laimbeer has a couple of things Gilbert doesn’t: championships.
And the fans respect
Couple things.. brother ya named one 😂😂😂
Shaq that you?
@@KloudKageno gun charges can be two
Gilbert is right bill lambier is not a great defensive player, Bill playing today's game he won't last through out the whole game. Today's one of bill lambier fouls in today's game would be a flagrant foul or can be ejected out of the game.
As usual, Gilbert Arenas talks like he's one of the greatest but what did he achieve? Bill Laimbeer is a master of mind game. What pisses people off is the guy can play, first stretch center, and he used every means to win. Larry Bird and the Celtics were as dirty as the Bad Boys and the rest of the league, I remembered a foul on Kurt Rambis... Bill played in both sides of the court, what about Gilbert always quick to diminish the previous generations? Ain't him that Kobe asked if he only be a one way player? I have a big problem with young people disrespecting those who paved the way before...
Arenas is ignorant of the game. Of how it is and was played back then. He knows squat about Defense and winning. Simple as that.
Arenas ain’t sh&$
Offensive players can now travel, carry, stepback, hopstep, eurostep, palm, etc. Defensive player can't breathe on the offensive player. So lets be clear about that too Gil
And my comment is, if todays players are such better athletes, than why allow all of the above , you mentioned???
@@localwear1 They aren't. The have access to better things but that doesn't mean everyone is out here on a Kobe/Bron diet-routine. Most eat like shit, don't stay healthy and see basketball as a route to a personal brand. Its also easy to look faster and more athletic when you don't have to follow dribbling rules and can take 3 steps instead of 2 and a bunch of rule changes.
Gilbert is up there with Shaq and Chuck for worst takes in basketball.
What's wrong with a Eurostep?
@@andrewcook1246 Spot on guv.
@@kevindevlieger300 nothing. it just looks like traveling to the OGs . And back in the day, it would have been called
travelling, because it really is 2.5 steps, plus a little hesitation standing on one foot for much longer than the old rules and refs would have allowed. Shit homes, they would have called traveling for HALF of Euro step, it looks so wrong to them.
Lambeer could definitely play today. His rebounding, intensity, and ability to pick and Pop make him viable today. The league is extremely top heavy as far as talented bigs go.
Bill *hits 6 threes in a finals game*
Gilbert: “he can’t play in today’s league”
😆😆 Right!
Gil is jealous and overrated
he a damn idiot just saying stuff to get views
A completely stupid comment but I wouldn’t expect anything else from a guy who’s smart enough to pull a gun on a teammate in the locker room! Utter moron!
Bill Laimbeer used to brawl against NBA players like Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, Robert Parish and Alonzo Mourning during his playing days.
The old NBA brawls were really scary.
He was like the tough guy in hockey who comes to bully the other teams stars
@@ericbutler739 not the point. he was out there to give physical career ending injury by shattering supterstars back, knee or ankle.
This is why he will always be garbage.
When the NBA stood for No Boys Allowed 💪
Yeah, and people like Charles Barkley and Alonzo Mourning beat the hell outta Bill Laimbeer's ass!!!! You have to be careful who you pick a fight with because everyone is not going to take it! 🏀💯
@@zeke3388 more like No Babies Allowed.
As a Bulls fan, I can't believe I have to defend laimbeer and his piston's teammates, but he could hit the big shot when they needed it! To beat the 80's Lakers, Celtics, Sixers and Bulls and win Championships would've been near impossible! Detroit won 2 back to back along with a lot of regular season games! Arenas never won anything and nobody values his opinion! Give the Pistons their due! Of course Laimbeer could thrive today!
Was gonna say the same thing. Laimbeer pioneered the stretch 5 position and had a rebounding title. To say he was just a goon is absurd.
@@briancoburn5957 I appreciate this from a BUlls fan. I'm a Pistons fan.
When you can make a true statement about another team says your a fan of the NBA period. Much respect for giving an honest opinion. Bill was a true big man that can hit the 3 but also knew his role on that team.
Like Barkley said, everybody "hated" Laimbeer. But almost everybody wished he was on their team.
Every time I see some claim a player from 30 years ago couldn't play in today's game I ask why? Those guys weren't idiots. They learned to play a game within the existing rules using the skills they were strongest with. So the tactics in the modern game are different. You don't think these guys could adapt? Do you think the modern players would hold up very well defending the Show Time Lakers where Magic had the ball in the hands of his shooter in a second and an half of when he got the rebound? The best of every era could play in every era. Great players are great players. They would just learn to play a very different type of game. I would have liked to see Dramond Greene on the 1989 Pistons. No one would be talking about Lambier if Dramond was allowed to play like they did in the 1980's.
The more I hear Gilbert Arenas talking smack about the old schools players, the more I lose more respect for him. No matter if you love or hate Bill Laimbeer, I’m 100% sure that he’ll survive playing in today’s pussified NBA, also he can shoot as a stretch Center/PF.
the old school players talk smack about the new guys, and they're just supposed to take it? no other league's legends trash the current product like the NBA does. Respect is a two-way street, some of the newer guys get tired of hearing the disrespect, especially from guys that weren't that skilled in comparison.
Bill wouldn't be able the guard the centers these days that can shoot
@@Jukeboxsterthat's well deserved disrespect. They don't respect the game so the legends don't respect them. It's that easy
Whenever you here Arenas talk about the old players and saying they couldn’t play in today’s game he always talks them at the offensive end, he seems to forget that these new players will have to play defense against players who were able to put up the numbers they have despite the physical defense they had to play through, something that these new players no nothing about, Arenas actually said that certain hof players wouldn’t be as effective in today’s game, especially the big men, that’s funny because the one of the best players in the league today is a throwback big man who can play with his back to the basket, that would be the Joker,
@@Jukeboxsterhow can you respect these so called superstars when all they do is complain that they don’t have enough to win, these guys jump from team to team so often that they make more money in the jerseys they wear than they make for their play on the floor, they were actually complaining that they were playing too many games 😂😂😂, at least the old school players played in the games they were supposed to play in, there was no load management, when you went to see the stars play in a game, they played and it didn’t matter how bad the other teams were that they were playing, they actually had to take defense pretty much out of the game to make it easier to score, and today’s all star game is trash, the skills competition is better than the actual game 😂😂😂😂, there was a reason they called basketball a man’s game back then, you had to be a man to take the physicality of the game, today’s game is basically a bunch of talented high schoolers, the majority of their experience is from high school, being that they only spend one year in college and they don’t play hard because the fear of injuries hurting their draft stock, that’s definitely smart on their part but it shows that they don’t want to compete, even when they get into the league and get that big contract, their competitiveness goes down a few knots, then comes the ring chasing 😂😂😂😂, back in the day a player going from team to team as much as these guys, were called journeymen 😂😂😂😂
What’s ironic is that out of all the players in the old school era Bill Laimbeer offensive game would EASILY translate the best to todays NBA. Especially being a Center.
I am a Detroiter and grew up with the pistons he is BELOVED here and if he couldn't play he wouldn't be a all star and a 2x champion he got job done
@jimmy101794 ??? Try again in English please.
Mad bro this Niger is so bad
Love Bill
All that you said over there, does not have anything to do with being dirty. You can be good enough to make the league, even win rings, still play dirty by attempting to hurt others. One does not negate the other.
Not just Laimbeer. Every single team had at least one "enforcer". Players policed themselves back then. Dirty plays were part of it for EVERY team. Most of Laimbeer's "dirty plays" were actually retaliating. When Pistons got hot they'd, try to injure ours. So we gotta take one of theirs..
-Parish clotheslines Dumars? Bird gets clotheslined next.
-Horace Grant punched Vinnie Johnson? Jordan is getting elbowed next play.
-Isiah elbowed in face by Malone (needed 40 stitches)? Stockton almost in tears from all the (very) illegal screens that came next.
He was like Draymond Green + Kevin Love well before them, but imo he gave far more to basketball than he needed to, he could have just have had some fun in basketball then retire early, and follow his family business and make more money. It was the rules back then and he was willing to test grey areas for the team. He was decent scorer, amazing 3 point shooter for his time, and amazing free throw shooter for a C/FC for his time, and most importantly, he was willing to do whatever it takes for his team to win, that being 3rd or 4th option and/or kneeing, flailing arms, picking fights, demoralizing other teams, getting fouls and technicals, he just did all for the team, when he could have just quit anytime and went to go and make more money elsewhere. Most importantly, he knew what he was doing, he knew he was getting flak for it, and he didn't care as long as it was for his team.
He was a way better shooter then those guys.
Mr triple single is a terrible comparison to bill
He's nothing like Green. Laimbeer was a legit NBA C who simply couldn't play with his back to the basket at that level & didn't have the foot speed to turn and face-up ala the Admiral. As a result he took what long in the tooth post players used to do and spent a career knocking down shots from 17-20ft. Only a fool or attention whore like Gilbert Arenas would say he couldn't thrive in this era when in fact much of the style of play offensively the last decade is based off what the Pistons did in the '80's.
laimbeer was a heck of a player ... tough as nailz, good rebounder and defensive player... and could shoot from deep ... his shooting skills were ahead of his time
Way ahead of his time with his shooting!
One of the original stretch bigs.
@@AlexG-tp2ik was the original stretch 5
@@diggydub5720 sikma would argue that laimbeer was a heck of a player??
Great point.. I'd say Jerry Lucas was the original stretch with his top of the key shot "the Lucas layup"
He was an enforcer for the Pistons of the bad boy era. He was a dirty player, but not the only one. There were a lot of guys that would hammer people on layups and dunk attempts back then. Where do people think "earning them from the line" came from?
McHale clotheslined Rambis which was at least as dirty as anything Laimbeer did
The Bulls were dirty too LOL, that was just the name of the game back then
Learned from watching the Celtics specially copy ewhat Ainge did!!!
Many teams back then had a no layups rule during the playoffs when a player drove into the paint and it was enter at your own risk. Chances are you were getting put on your ass and earning it at the line.
On a non basketball note. Years after he retired. My father in law worked on Laimbeer’s chainsaw a couple times. Said he was a really nice guy. Took time for small talk and treated him well.
Thats cause he didnt try a score a layup on him.
@@JD-ey8hw thats cause jordan bet on his jeffrey in vegas. U DERANGED. MJ CANT LAYUP SO HE CRY TO DAVID STERN : ''just remember michael , Stern make all rules softer so u can win few games '' by WILT CHAMBERLAIN
I saw him and George Blaha at the Palace Grill after a U2 concert and we had a beer.
He was nice to talk to and George is an angel.
glad I watched this video, I didn’t even think laimbeer was shooting jump shots! Videos like these highlighting players with less attention are great, getting to know older players I haven’t watched is awesome
He barely ever shot post ups
Lol right, Laimbeer was ahead of his time
There are grown men in Michigan who were not old enough to watch Bill Laimbeer play that still revere him to this day. Current men in DC were just plain happy to see the Gilbert Arenas era end. They haven't mentioned him since. Arenas had as much relevance in basketball as he has as a podcaster, none.
Lmao, dang what did Arenas do to u that u burned him so bad😂
But we have to admit, those 2, 3 years with the Wizards he was one the most exciting players to watch, with Antwan Jamison and Larry Hughes or Caron Butler, good Wizards teams but not good enough to beat Lebrons Cavs
He was one of the first big men shooting from distance...
Great defender and good rebounder he definitely wasn't a bum.
Willis Reed, Bob Lanier, Dave Cowen's and Dan Issel. You must have not watched much basketball.
Bob McAdoo
@@Gnofgthat's right 😃☝️
@@Gnofgkiki vanderway Jerry Lucas Rick Berry
@@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq I saw Macadoo score 41 points against the Celtics in Buffalo.Ernie D was on that team along with Gar Heard and Jim Mcmillan who scored the winning basket when Havlicek double teamed Macadoo.
Dude was basically 7ft would play hard, rebound and could shoot 3s. He would be just fine in today league.
If Rudy Gobert can do it, Laimbeer would be fine.
@@biyrdie LAIMBEER WOULD BE BEST CENTER TODAY
Can't dribble, no post up moves. can't drive no lateral movement. besides that he could play.
@@PIP...33you don’t need that now. Even Jalen Brown can’t dribble. Dude got $340 million and become the highest paid player in the NBA. Laimbeer can shoot, that’s DLL you need and honestly the center is soft as hell right now. Embid blames everyone else but don’t show up when it matters in the playoffs.
More than fine… you ever heard of Rudy gobert
Laimbeer is remembered as a goon, and he was. But he was also a legit player who stepped it up when shit got heavy
Now that was great analysis, 👍🏻
Pistons fan here! And I think I can speak for us all, but thank God for Bill Laimbeer! If he was on your team, you loved him! If he wasn't, he was Darth Vader! As for Arenas: I can't understand how he says Bill Laimbeer couldn't play in today's game??? He was a 40% 3-point shooter at 6'11"; a great rebounder and passer; and a master of getting inside guys heads and taking them outta their game. Remind you of anyone??? Little hint: He plays for the Nuggets and has win two MVPS in the past 3 years. I'll wait...
For those who think Laimbeer couldn't play are mistaken. He was definitely a thug but hit that outside jumper way too many times for my liking. Go Lakers!
Bill Laimbeer may be a lot of things but he was a solid team mate and a hell of a player, a centre shooting 3pointers in the 80s. His rebounding was definitely underrated.. 👍🏽🙏🏽
I’m not even sure if he teammates liked him that much. Laimbeer was the enforcer in the locker room too, he was gonna get in their face if he didn’t think they were playing to win. He’s an grade A A-Hole but he was all about winning so they put up with him. There’s a lot of stories about Bill getting into fist fights at Pistons practices.
I slowly became a Bill Laimbeer supporter. Hated when he terrorized my Sixers, but I get it. Back then it was more physical, thuggish street ball. Someone has to protect your star. Every team needed a Laimbeer/Enforcer.
To this day Bill Laimbeer is still my favorite player of all time. I started watching NBA as a little kid with the 1990 Portland - Detroit series and he was really cool with the mask. At that time I thought that the hard tackling was a part of the game.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Laimbeer will be the most hated n feared in the NBA right now. And he will be fitted perfectly in this era of NBA.
Love Bill Laimbeer
his game was strong but it gets exaggerated today by modern players especially , Yes he did dirty things and was a hard player but it wasn't like every single game he was hurting or fighting teams. He was a smart and strategic type player who followed direction well. Can shoot the ball was a good passer of the ball , shoot free throws and was a heck of a 3 point scorer. Today he'd be one of the top 5 players period . look at his scoring stats and imagine how easy it would be for him today with these baby like rules . Believe me he would adapt i can see him putting up 24-26 a night 12-15 rebounds , 4-6 assist , and shoot high % in 3pt , ft , fg %. Its just not as physical as it was during the 90's on back. Great video as always🏀
I hated Laimbeer. But he was like the Pentacle of being a OG in the NBA. He had game as well. Speaking Frankly, I think if his skin hue was darker, he'd be one of the biggest legends in the game. He'd be mentioned to kids as a warning to clean their rooms etc 'or Laimbeer was gonna come get them'.
It ain’t bout be darker its bout bill putting them hands on them literally 😂😂😂
@@SMALLTOWNMUZIK501 I've heard way to many brothas state "Everything's about Race" to ignore it when I see it.
Vick wasn't about race to da whites. It was about a privileged millionaire media star who was killing dogs for his amusement.
But many of ya made that about race too.
OJ, Saint Floyd, The list goes on and on and on and on.
I know there plenty of black Americans who are not slaves to their hatred. But it is....Systematic.
Any player that would try to do things that could end someone's career does not deserve to be recognized in my opinion, and I watched this guy do some really dirty things that were flat out vicious and unsportsmanlike!
Laimbeer was shooting threes before big men even thought about going out to the arc. He was a terrific rebounder, sound defender and big time glue guy. These 'Legends', many of who didn't win a darn thing, don't know much.
Enrforcer? Yes. Physical era? Yes.
But he was putting up numbers. At his peak 17pt, 15 reb while primarily set at top of key, passing and shooting 3s. He fits todays modern big as much as any 80s player.
I like how Isiah always stands by his teammates to the end no matter what
That whole pistons team is still like that. They never abandon, talk bad about their teammates or apologize even up to today. Special bond they have.
No, Isiah slapped Laimbeer in the locker room over a minor dispute. That’s why Laimbeer decided to retire. Isiah was on crutches, and retired shortly after himself. Isiah was a terrible captain
@@yo3rdtier128 they have a good relationship today
@@yo3rdtier128 ZEKE DID TO 7 FOOTER. BETTER ASK WHY COWARD 6'6 SLAP 6'1 STEVE KERR ?? U DERANGED ( ZEKE > MJ )
@@MrAitraining Zeke is 5'11 Laimbeer 6'11 . Better ask why coward 6'6 did that to white Kerr 6'1 ? Zeke >>> MJ
I hated Bill Laimbeer and his goonish game, but the guy could play. He had a consistent jumper out to 17 feet or so, was a premier rebounder and not a bad passer. He would be in high demand in today's game.
Maybe the ultimate "love to be his teammate, hate to play against him". There were basically 5 things he did really, really well: 1) rebound (from 1982-91, no player in the NBA got more defensive rebounds than Laimbeer) , 2) play tough D, 3) mid range to 3pt jumper was very good (Laimbeer didn't have any post-up game, so its a wonder his career field goal % is at 50%) , 4) be an ultimate teammate and ALWAYS had his teammates' back,...and 5) do whatever necessary to get under opponents skin! In the NHL, they are called "Rats" (eg. Marchand, Tkachuk, Tikkanen). Players who are borderline (or are) dirty, chippy... yet are very skilled. Bird was right though: Laimbeer sometimes tried to intentionally hurt other players, which is why no NBA team will ever hire him as their coach (even though he would be a good coach).
Disagree with #4. Laimbeer was the master at starting something and then retreating to hide behind his teammates to protect him.
@@projoebiochem PAYTON, KOBE, GARNETT DID SAME. BIRD TOO AD JORDAN. THEY INSTIGATE WITH TALK THEN MOVE AWAY. LAIMBEER DID NOTHING WRONG . NBA WAS GROWN MEN LEAGUE EVEN BEFORE HE OR ANY PISTON WAS DRAFTED OR ENTER NBA. DETROIY NEVER STARTED THAT BECAUSE HARD FOULS WAS ON WILT.
@@PIP...33 Bird fought his own fights. Laimbeer was a cheap-shotting coward.
Laimbeer was the NBA version of Claude Lemieux. If he wasn’t on your team you hated him
He was a Cheap shot artist. That's why he is not in HOF
Laimbeer was walking Double Double stretch 5 in late '80 ... like very unique player. It was time when Nelson experiment with stretch 4 and it was heavily criticise.
so he has all the reason to be proud of himself.
Real Problem is his extreme jealousy trying to give career ending injuries to supertars Bird, Jordan, Charles, Chief etc etc.
this should've never been tolerated and 1980s NBA did.
you can give hard fouls and get your flagrant I or II, fine. But when you are out there to 'destroy" superstars career out of jealousy because they arent Bad Boys and on opposition. He lucky he did get his knees clubbed by a baseball bat in stadium parking lots. Because, he deserved it.
@@mkhan8527they know they didn’t wanna do that to him, he played for Detroit. When you come for one of the city’s own you will face the repercussions, sooner or later. Look what happened to Trick Daddy, Ron Artest, etc.. shit look at what’s currently happening to Gilbert Arenas with the whole city checking him and him wanting NO parts of it. Wore a Tayshaun Prince jersey on his next podcast and called it a truce. No one besides an opposing player was ever gonna lay a finger on Bill.
What did Laimbeer do that Oakley, Mahorn, Shaq, Mason etc did…..nothing. Never understood the hate for Laimbeer….
Because he's a bad white boy. You should know blacks are more racist than whites in general.
Physical & dirty isn't the same thing. Every team in the east was physical in the 80s, but the pistons, especially Laimbeer was dirty.
He should absolutely be in the HOF. He was way more than a dirty player. He was an excellent rebounder, positional defender, great outlet passer and one of the few big men that could legit stretch the court.
Gilbert couldnt even stay in the NBA for an entire career
He had a role and carried it out well. The man clearly had an impact because he is still being talked about today.
He made it to the nba and hung around so he can't have been all bad
The disrespect for former players by modern players is unbelievable.
I will always need a player like him for win a championship
He’s probably one of the most hated players of all time 😂… dude had skills good enough to do what he did but I think he’s so disliked no one wants to give him credit.
If it wasn't for Bill Laimbeer's dirty play, he would remind me of Kevin Love, or of Brooke Lopez in terms if being a big man who can shoot 3s! RIP Mr Eaton! You were one of the players who I really liked watching playing basketball when I was growing up!
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I have nothing but love for Laimbeer. He was the antihero for the Pistons and the league. He couldn’t jump but he lead the league in rebounds. He couldn’t run but he was always ready for the give and go. He wasn’t the greatest post player but he shot the 3 ball better than any other center at the time. He was slow but he was a top defensive player. Laimbeer got the job done. He protected his team, kept team disagreements in the locker room or at practice, and never second-guessed his loyalty to the Pistons, the NBA, and the fans. Love you, big guy.
Great rebounder...with lots of range. He left the paint open for Dumars and Isiah.
Laimbeer would be Jokic with no post game today it’s only like 4 true centers in the league today
Which is sad to see unfortunately.
Bill laimbeer was a great player, and I appreciated his play and his demeanor...
The Pistons run from 83 till 93 was one of the most fulfilling sports eras of my lifetime...
One thing also can not be denied all those division titles, conference titles, and the 2 championships.
Perhaps for you...the Detroit fan that watch him live.
For the rest of the world...he is just a professional bellend.
Really should have been a 3peat was it for that terrible foul call in game 6.
Another great episode, man! Bill definitely created the pressure to develop the greatness in others! What a monster!
As a 15 yr old inner city kid seeing Laimbeer get booed in a playoff game. And him gesturing to the crowd to boo more. He didn't give a f*%#! I loved it!
Bill Laimbeer for his career averaged 13 points and 10 boards. At his peak he was like a 11-13 boards per game guy for a handful of years there. Actually led the league in rebounding one year. 84 percent free throw shooter for a big. Could step out and hit the three for stretches in his career and was really ahead of his time there and showed ability to shoot a respectable percentage the years he attempted more than 1 per game.
People think of Laimbeer as a goon cause he made some bonehead enforcer plays, but it bothers me when people talk about him like that.
The same is already happening to draymond. All the triple single jokes and stuff. Draymond has one of the best win percentages in the NBA and great stats. Show respect. These guys are more than just goons who commit ghastly fouls...
Draymond isn't in the same class as Laimbeer LOL
i'm all the way from south east asia and i love bill laimbeer to this day. he ,thomas, and the rest of the bad boys created a whole new way of playing w/c is pretty much how we play the game....no blood, no foul. but they weren't popular here too because it's a lakers country for some reason.
Nobody has to like him. We love him in Detroit! 313 💪🏼❤️
Bill Laimbeer, the player you hated if he was on the opposing team and the type of player you loved if he is runnin with you.
The OG stretch 5 , amazing defender and rebounder could also score and create his own shot
Bill was my neighbor in Palos Verdes Estates. I was much younger than he was, but I remember he allowed a little squirt like me to come over and shoot baskets with him. My Dad and I would go to the high school games and watch him play. He was pretty darn good even then!!!
My favorite Laimbeer moment was on November 1, 1983. Makes me smile every time I see it.
MY FAVE MOMENT OF MJ CAREER WAS WHEN HE BET IN VEGAS ON HIS JEFFREY 1993 AND LOST. 6 RINGS AS AN WAGON MEANS NOTHING AFTER 1993
I grew up watching Bad Boy Pistons....total team concept.
Isiah the Smiling Assassin was a great leader...a warrior.
Laimbeer pick and popping and sinking 3's was truly glorious.
I will never forget rookie Rodman...nothing like it.
As a fan , I never liked Bill Laimbeer, but I always respected his effort and toughness.
When you're a starter on a two time champion and a team that went to five consecutive conference finals, pretty sure that means that you can play
Wish we had players like Laimbeer today, and Rick Mahorn, and Xavier McDaniels .... rip 90s ball
I loved Laimbeer. Great guy and what a teammate to have on your team!
Bill Laimbeer, any reaction to the video?... What's that? Oh, you don't care...
If everyone is STILL talking about how much they hate you 20 years later, you are truly a legend.
What people always fail to mention about Laimbeer is that he genuinely loved mixing it up on the basketball court! He didn't have to play basketball because his father/family was one of the wealthiest in all of Ohio!! But he played anyway and had a decent career! Particularly for a guy who had very little physical gifts. Charles Barkley said it best: "I hated Bill Laimbeer, but I respected him! Because he did what had to be done in order to win championships!"
If we had "prime" Bill Laimbeer in 2023, he would play very much like Draymond Green. Even with the ban on hand checking, a "prime" Laimbeer would have potentially caused trouble for someone like LeBron James, though I'm not sure if "prime" Laimbeer could have dealt with Nikola Jokić or Giannis Antetokounmpo because of these two players' ability to hit three-point shots.
Great topic. I never liked Laimbeer. Despised him as a kid. Obviously Im not from Michigan or a Piston fan, lol. Seriously, he is the dirtiest player I can remember from the NBA by far. He had talent, especially shooting the ball- but I cant believe he didnt get hurt permanently for playing like that. Ultimate villain.
He was more physical than dirty. He agitated, he played mind games, he intimidated...if he could. Mostly he just played great basketball.
Love that you're one of the few NBA CZcamsrs I follow who consistently shows Bill Laimbeer love.
I’m from Detroit so I’m WAY too biased! That man is a legend to us!
My favourite Laimbeer moment, and the highlight of his career, happened when Robert Parish punched him.
My favorite moment is when Bill ended the Chief’s run and the Celtics didn’t win again.😂
@@adamludlow1977 well said !!
I thought he played a bit dirty, but also recognized his skills and the matchup problems he created. It's easy to criticize players that are not on your favorite team, but Respect to Bill Laimbeer.
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Kobe will love Laimbeer on his team!! He can shoot, rebound, defend and toughness and he doesn’t give a F. Imagine the center he guard in the late 80s and early 90s. Laimbeer has the mamba mentality.
I love your channel. Thanks for making good content.
What the disrespect. The game was more difficult when people can strong arm and physical with you. If you were having a shooting streak they’ll send you on your ass to mess up your flow. It’s more then just skills.
Hall of Famer. Period. Lived through it all.
I’ve watched Laimbeer pretty much his entire career, living in Cleveland and being a lifelong Cavs fan means I was able to see Laimbeer in person many times during his days as a Cavs player, if you look at today’s big men who always are shooting from outside, they are simply doing what Laimbeer was doing back in the day, Laimbeer became a role player when he got to Detroit and he played his role well, he might not have been a great player but to be able to last as long as he did in the league and be as durable as he was, love him or hate him you have to give him a thumbs up 👍🏾
He was very good player
As a kid of the 80's who hated the Pistons, Bill should be in the Hall of Fame. He was the first center I remeber that would take 3's in an era where people didn't shoot a lot of 3's and make them. Perkins of the Lakers would do it later but Bill was the first player I remember where you had to guard against him just going to the the top of the arch and hitting a 3 against you. I hated him but he was a difference maker in the NBA.
The king of mental warfare and one of the most hated players of all time! If I wasn't a Detroiter, I would've hated him.
I'm a Knicks fan, I liked him when we weren't playing him. He was always in the thick of some drama on the court, some beef with someone, the officiating, whoever, he was entertaining, but also effective.
Bill Laimbeer played basketball like it was hockey. He was an agitator, a rat, a sh*t disturber, etc. The difference is he wasn't afraid to throw down. He was the type of player you hated to play against but if he was on your team, you'd love him.
Growing up watching laimbeer play, I thought he was very unathletic and wondered why he was even out there beyond his jumper. In the old days of illegal defense, it work bringing the 4 or 5 man away from the basket, which he excelled at. Other than that, he was slow defensively and relied on physical, dirty fouls because he couldn't guard
💯 Shawn don’t be objective at all lol
Bill was a great rebounder and very underrated shooter. One of the best 7 footers to shoot from 3 point land, He also got into opponents heads- most famously in the 1990 Finals with Kevin Duckworth. He could have easily been the MVP of the Finals and was under consideration- but publicly said it was Isiah's. The pistons would not have won back to back without him- and could have easily won 4 straight
He should have been MVP for the dirtiest player in the NBA
In that era the league was not interested for a big man shooting from outside. He took the pressure of the pistons by being an enforcer.
Thanks for a very emotional clip, man! You know, all these Celtics greats like Bird, Parish or McHale have all the right in the world to utter their opinion on Lambs, to critize him, to call him dirty. Why? Because he moved the barriers, he invented the dirty aspect of the NBA game in these days. And the Celtics I am talking about here are some of the greatest players the game has ever seen. Same about Reggie Miller, same about Sir Charles. But, what the heck gives Gilbert Arena, a walking joke who has NEVER won ANYTHING the right to speak up there? Even Bird shows more respect for Laimbeer than Arenas. And although the Celtics hated him as much as you can possibly hate an opponent, there still was some respect for what he could do to them apart from playing dirty. The "Bad Boys" were my childhood heros and will ever be. I think Chuck Daly was one of the best people the NBA has ever seen and altough I can understand every Bulls, Celtics, Lakers, Sixers or whatever fan to hate them from the bottom of their hearts, the bad boys were the most honest basketball team to ever play the game. And there is not a single player I "hate" from that era in the entire NBA. They all were our childhood idols. Seing Eaton sitting there with his endless legs sort of breaks your heart knowing he is gone. Same about all the others who passed away. Like Mason from the Knicks. R.I.P.
The Celtics did the same crap that the Pistons did !1 They were sneaky about it though The Celtics would get you to hit them by doing shit like elbowing you, grabbing you, stepping on your foot!! Ainge was a perfect example
A slow footed white guy who averaged 10 rebounds a game over his career, 13 pts, was a great perimeter shooter, had quick hands for a big guy, was a key player on two Championship teams, and made 4 All Star teams, because he "Couldn't Play", according to Gilbert Arenas.
If you think Laimbeer was a bad basketball player, you either didn’t watch or you don’t know basketball. He was a solid stretch 4 for his entire career which included 4 all star appearances & 2 nba titles. He could shoot, had a soft touch around the rim, was great on the boards, and was at least not a liability on defense unlike many hall of famers… he was also an a-hole who took cheap shots. It’s not either or. He was both a good NBA player and an a-hole. The reason other NBA players don’t like him is that he took cheap shots. The reason you don’t like him, is because he doesn’t give a shit.
The NBA needed BILL. He's a true Legend. The 1st Big to shoot 3pters in The NBA, The Backbone of The BadBoyz & won 2 🏆🏆. We want more interviews of BILL.
He couldn't play today, because today's players are soft, and he'd make them cry.
Its not just dst he played D they dont today
Damn, true though
Growing up in Detroit Billy was our guy you don't have to like him we love him Bad Boys 4 Life
Bill Laimbeer was always my favorite player as a kid back in those days. I grew up here in MI and everyone loved him.
Laimbeer was playing rugby while everybody else was playing basketball.
Love that Bird gave Laimbeer a taste of his own medicine.
Love that Laimbeer ended Bird’s run.
@adamludlow1977 Then, the rules of the game were changed in large part due to the overly physical style of play used by teams like the Pistons and Knicks. That's really Laimbeer's legacy. Yeah, he was on 2 championship teams, and we will never see that style of play rewarded again. The other part of Laimbeer's legacy is coaching in the WNBA. Imagine being so despised by a league you played in that no one will give you a shot despite seeming to be intelligent and understanding the game strategically.
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That was Jordan whining about it. There’s a clip of that punk complaining.
Isiah had a winning record against Jordan
@adamludlow1977 Jordan has some character issues but is generally regarded as the greatest to ever play. Isiah also has plenty of character issues, see his history of sexual harassment allegations. Karl Malone nearly killing Isiah on the court was the result of the Pistons style of play, and he would have borne the brunt of the backlash had it been allowed to continue. As it stands they're all nearly universally despised or forgotten with the exceptions of Rodman and Salley.
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You were making a good case until…You lost all credibility taking Malone’s side. The pedo that was much more dirty than Laimbeer.
Laimbeer was very talented & could hit big shots or grab big rebounds, BUT his dirty play & intentionally trying to injure opponents, overshadowed his talent and ability.
Read the interview with Bird where he talks about Laimbeer purposely sticking his feet out under opposing players feet when they were coming down off a shot or rebound.
It’s too bad when a talented athlete has their accomplishments overshadowed by their antics.