I don’t have the words to describe how beautiful it was to watch the NBA back then, even on any given Tuesday was always can’t miss action!!! Thank God I was alive to see it for myself 🙌👏🔥💯
@@maxwellhowell it was a very different style of play than now. People often ask of the players of yesterday would do well today. I think they would as they'd have more protection. Now a simple shove gets both the shover and shovee technical fouls. Still, I think Laimbeer was a dirty dog as a player.
Yooo. Laimbeer CLEARLY did that on purpose. He faked a fall to dive into Ewing's knees. I knew he was dirty but this is disrespectful as a competitor. He went after the guys legs on purpose.
@@richardlacey4923 has NOTHING to do with how physical the game was back then.. and also, Rudy Tomjonavich had his nose broken by Kermit Washington, and that was the most brutal punch ever.. you are like what? 20 years old? lol you need more exp before you can level up..
@@dopeasme9962Whenever you watch a documentary or interview... these guys still genuinely despise each other / talk shit about each other. No love lost to this day between guys like Bird or Pippen and Laimbeer. I loved seeing the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary about the Bad Boys; Laimbeer just trash talking all the people he played against. Only sad part is that he'll never make the HOF or get an NBA coaching job, even though he should, because of how everybody hates him.
That's one of Laimbeer's go-to dirty moves: when the guy he was covering was up in the air, he'd gauge where they'd land and use some part of his body to make sure they didn't come down on a flat surface as expected. Larry Bird didn't hate Laimbeer because he was tough; he wasn't. Bird hated him because he was a cheap shot artist who literally tried to injure opponents. You'd go up for a rebound and Laimbeer would put his foot where your feet were expecting land, causing ankle injuries.
Perfectly said in every way. The true tough guys were the guys who absorbed the cheap shots. Anyone can hit someone, especially when they're not looking as was so often the case here.
Laimbeer and Rodman were Geniuses to the Flopping back then..they were masters!..Those 2 were fun to watch for me!..We'll never see or enjoy this NBA again.
Yeah from behind catching Laimbeer off-guard. Face to face Parish probably would've got a beating from Laimbeer like Brad Daugherty did when they fought. Anybody can hit someone from behind when they're not expecting it.
pretty obvious how Lambeer crawled backwards conveniently tripping Ewing he prolly thought he was smart and would get away with it but the refs werent having any of it.
So you didn't see the CLEAR PUSH in the back of Laimbeer, that tossed him to the floor? Now honestly, LAIMBEER did get pushed, but HELPED IT OUT A BIT! It was just bad luck, that Ewing fell and tripped over him! BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, Laimbeer, Mahorn, and the BAD BOYS, are STILL IN THEIR HEADS, 30 plus years later!
@@GOBLUEADAM He just "used" the push to pretend that he slipped/tripped (interrestingly enough to the direction that he was pushed) so he could fell under Ewings legs. Laimbeer was tough I give you that but unfortunatelly he was fucking dirty and he intentionally wanted to "take out" star player from other teams by deliberately hurting them. He got what he deserved, he is hated by most fans still today, he is hated by retired players, he does not get any media jobs and most importantly he will never get to hall of fame. It was his choice.
@@GOBLUEADAM Yeah they were in the Knicks head so bad the Knicks only beat them by 20 something points in the deciding game of that series. Would’ve been by more, but the Bad Boys were in their heads too much lol
@@nmr20067The Gilbert Arenas! The guy with an 11-20 playoff record. Lambeer could shoot the 3, was a better rebounder, and had a better fg and ft %. His record was 71-42 in the playoffs against the best in the league Jordan, Bird, and Magic all while collecting back to back Championship rings. Gilbert who????
Every team in the late 80s/early 90s had at least one enforcer-type player whose role was primarily to go out there and hit guys. Most of them rode the bench, like Kurt Rambis. Some of them started, like Charles Oakley and Bill Laimbeer. The "Bad Boy" Pistons had a bunch of those guys, thus the nickname.
@@stevenjm12 Wrong, the Lakers starters were Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Bryan Scott, & AC Green, Ramis started in 77 games & 74 games when Lakers lost of Boston & Philly. otherwise, he started 20, 10, 10, 46, 31 & 43 games on those Laker Dynasties
The bad boy Detroit Pistons were a bunch of low life cheating criminals who played the game of basketball. Good thing Michael Jordan took care of them and ended their pathetic two year reign of dirty play and trying to injure people. They all belong in prison and not walking the streets. I will never forget how your two ex bad boy Pistons Rick Mahorn and Bill Laimbeer teamed up to start beating up on women in the WNBA. Rick Mahorn assaulted Lisa Leslie. What do you expect from ex bad boy Pistons. They are a disgrace to the game of basketball and the black ex bad boy Pistons make black people look bad by playing into the criminal stereotype of black people. They should all be ashamed of themselves. They will always be looked at as a bunch of low life thugs who won back to back because the league allowed them to cheat and hurt people and play dirty. No respect in that Elwood Palmer!
What a little hard foul and then the drama of delay games of guys acting they will fight and they don't????stop it man i live that era and i hate to see people acting like every team was physical and dirty it was only Detroit and all stars were complaining about it so is not like everyone was playing physical...
@@platano3000x having lived and watched that era …yea every team went hard played the game with balls and actually played team basketball! The league now is selfish and soft
Laimbeer was a very good player who gladly played the role of enforcer and goon. Every great team needs players willing to do the dirty work and he certainly did plenty of dirty work in the paint.
@@5star64 heard the same crap about bruce bowen just coz he played good D and didnt roll over for the 'stars' of the era. its not a game for little girls. maybe try curling.
@@Cristian-vm1bg You poor deluded creature. Bruce Bowen would purposely trip players and then to play nice and pretend to want to help them up. He consistently stuck his feet under jump shooters not giving them a place to land. So they would sprain their ankles when the came down on his shoes. One of the dirtiest plays in league history. And you defend that shit.
Damn!! I didn't realize how much pushing and shoving was allowed during the late 1980's and early 1990's by these two teams. And technical fouls were only called half of the times. I didn't realize how much chirping was allowed too!? Awesome memories.
Love these Detroit announcers, insisting Laimbeer was pushed when he clearly dove, as every replay showed. And their sheer brilliance: “Laimbeer will never be loved by fans except for those in Detroit.” Hehehe
@@brettmaster4695 Laimbeer was a dirty SOB. He had no game, and when someone dunked over him, or showed him up, this is how he retaliated. He saw where the ball was going to land, he knew Ewing's location, so he quickly knelt down knowing that Ewing would fall over him. Why is is that he got into so many altercations with so many other players?, he's dirty that's why.
That was a very dangerous play by laimbeer. He really could have injured Ewing’s legs. Ewing got position to get the offensive rebound, Laimbeer knew Ewing was going to get the rebound. To prevent him from scoring on the put back, laimbeer fell into Ewing’s legs when Ewing jumped to get the rebound.
@@yuriykhasidov1626 Agreed more or so in his prime.People don’t remember the beast he was in his prime.He was at like 30PTS 12 Boards and the craziest part 4 blocks
@@GOBLUEADAM Agreed. People talk about the Bad Boys. The Knicks under pat riley was more physical than the Pistons. The Pistons had 4 big time scorers who could explode for 30 at anytime Thomas, Dumars, The Microwave & Aguirre. Not to mention Laimbeer was a stretch 5. You're right
1:05 that might be the most dangerous fouls I've seen. "let me crouch down.. then fall back into him to take out his legs". at least the ref caught it.. of course Daly defends it. and the announcers saying "Lambeer was right about that one" is insane.. Even if Ewing pushed off.. he tried to injure Ewing 100%.
what, you dont like watching 2 hours of bricks from the 3line, fouls for looking at your opponent, players taking 4 steps with the ball constantly never called, political and social matters injected on the court, extremely overpaid and under performing "athletes" who are all premadonnas? c'mon mannnnnn
Bill Laimbeer was no punk !! People don't understand what its like to live with Detroit in your blood ! Color doesn't dictate real when you have Detroit behind you. TRUST !
@@CJuspsbefore they lost Mahorn I might agree but after he was gone...no, the Knicks were the tougher team at that point. Hence why they got beat by them in 92
Ewing was a little past his prime by the time Pat Riley got there, but he had a supporting cast of Rivers, Starks, McDaniel (in 1992), Oakley, Harper (later on), Charles Smith, Hubert Davis.
@@ILoveOldTWC And they still couldn't win anything because of the brilliance of Michael Jordan (GOAT) and the Chicago Bulls. That Knicks team can still feel Jordan's foot up their rear-ends to this day!
@@reggiejacksonfan6823 Your right Reggie, I forgot about how Hakeem and Vernon Maxwell and the rest of the Rockets gave those same Knicks a good ass whipping in the 1994 finals. Actually Hakeem and the rockets use to beat up on Michael and the bulls a lot to. Hakeem had a winning record against Jordan and the Bulls. It would have been nice to see Hakeem and the rockets play Jordan and the bulls in the finals. Not sure the Bulls would have won against Hakeem.
No one likes Laimbeer, including me (and rightly so, he was a dirty player), but someone must have taught him how to fight for real. The time he and Barkley got into it, Laimbeer got the best of it, which no one expected. Maybe his butler was a pugilist when he was growing up.
Bill is great. He just didn't take the elbows and pushing, and stood up to it and gave it back. If you hate him for that, that is your problem. Ewing is pushing in the back and throwing elbows, Oakley is playing just as dirty as anyone in this video. The Knicks were not the victims, they were doing the same stuff. That is just the way the NBA was back then. If you backed down you were roadkill, so Bill did what he had to do to survive.
I wish basketball would go back to this way. So physical, that it would separate the real men from boys. Today's era of players would struggle in the 1990s. No easy buckets, everything is earned!
Patrick and Bill were great. Bill was nasty and when he was upset it didnt destabilize his game. As a big man he could have played today because he could hit outside shots as well as any big and could pick and skip. In the playoffs the pistons knew other teams would arrive with headphones and try to open up a can of hip hop spaghettios. But the Pistons wouldnt have any of that and it would wind up all over the front of your shirt.
@@cmack17 For the better?? Basketball is my favorite sport and I played it in college. I cannot and will not watch the NBA. It's 🗑. Millions of people agree with me. Check the dwindling ratings
@mongoslade277 1. Yes, for the better 2. Basketball is my favorite sport and I also played in college. 3. If you do not "watch the NBA", how would you know what the NBA is like? In fact, why did you even watch this video? 4. It does not matter if millions ageee with you. The NBA is making money hand over fist. This would indicate that millions disagree with you also. 5. Ratings are "dwindling" because people consume the NBA from other sources than TV. Setting all of that aside... I am 100% confident that people were complaining about "NBA basketball" during the exact era that you think was the golden era of basketball. Let us explore this together. When was NBA Basketball great? What changed?
He’s a spoiled rich little daddy’s boy and he tried to end players careers. Maybe YOUR version of a “warrior”. Not mine. My version of a guy who needs his ass beat so severely that he repents of his scumbag ways.
Patrick Ewing always excercised phenominal restraint with Bill Laimbeer because he knew how valueable he was to the Knicks and they couldn't afford for him to be thrown out. Laimbeer knew that too, that's why he always fucked with Ewing to provoke him.
@@camzpras3435 Hey, I think I know where you're going with this, let me start off by saying I really don't think Ben Wallace should be in the Hall of Fame. The fact that he is though does help your case for sure, because a very strong case can be made that Bill was better. Wallace was an excellent defender, yet Laimbeer averaged only 0.7 less steals per game, and one shot block less per game. Bill should be given some extra defense credit though when considering the mind games he so effectively played on opponents that took them out of their games. Wallace was an excellent rebounder, yet Laimbeer actually had a slightly better rebounds per game average. Offensively, there's no comparison. Bill scored about 8 points more per game, had a higher field goal percentage, higher free throw percentage by a mile, and we won't even talk about three pointers since Wallace didn't take any. Throw in that Laimbeer co-captained two championship teams, Ben played on one, and I would conclude Laimbeer to be the better player. Having said all that, I just don't think Laimbeer's overall game or accomplishments can be considered elite, which should really be the requirement to get in the Hall of fame. I really don't know how Wallace got in. His defense was elite, but his offense was actually bad. When half of your game is bad, how does that happen?
Laimbeer was easy to hate, but he was really smart at why and when he would do things with the rules the way they were back then. He would get people so riled up they would get thrown off their game, thats the whole reason he did that stuff. Its dirty and punk behavior, but had its reasons.
@@halleck3that was what I was saying, its punk behavior. Back then it could be used to win thats what im getting at, he did it in a calculated way to win. Im glad its not allowed anymore dont take what I said the wrong way.
@@halleck3 I hear ya, its not how I would play or compete either, but its how he played and it DID work during that era, but it doesnt make it any less scummy I also understand your view too.
The greatest era of the NBA. People say they didn’t like all the grabbing and the elbows and the cheap shots - but I loved it. It made an otherwise boring game fun.
@@heelturnsface in all the comments section people say that this was the greatest era of basketball because it had elements of football in it… And I am inclined to agree!
@@timw8646 the people responding! If I had to guess, the ratio is more than 10 to 1, at worst. The BEST era of the basketball sport was when they allowed elements of hockey in it. It made the sport more exciting. That tall skinny white persons who clotheslined the guy from the lakers who wore glasses. All the stuff that Laimbeer did. When Karl Malone hit the guy in the face from the Detroit team and there was all that blood. Now the game is too sensitive for these things and it makes it less exciting. It’s like car racing but no crashes anymore. Booooring. And everyone feel the same ways.
This just shows me that Laimbeer was just as good at mind games than Rodman was, but never got credit for it. It also showed that the Knicks had just as many "dirty" players as the Pistons. Ewing was giving it to Laimbeer too; so was Oakley. If you go and watch all the footage of those teams back then, the Celtics, the Lakers and even the Bulls (yes) played "dirty" a good bit. For some reason the Pistons are the only ones that got that moniker that still lives on to this day. Also, the announcers tried to blow it out of proportion. Those Pistons went to the Conference Finals 5 years in a row and to the Finals 3 years in a row. They took the Lakers (who were great) to seven games in the first one, swept them the next year, and beat the Trail Blazers 4-1 the next. You don't do that by just being dirty or having a guy on your team who's just dirty. BTW, I was never a Pistons fan and I actually rooted for the Knicks for quite a few years. Just being honest about what I see.
I have been rewatching a lot of games I had watched during the 1980's and I am realizing how physical the Boston Celtics were. Because of the offensive greatness of Larry Bird and Kevin McHale, their defensive intensity was often overshadowed. Of course, the Boston Celtics physicality would show itself during skirmishes and huge brawls. The prime Boston Celtics from 1984-thru-1986 were the most physical team in the NBA. But I'm not totally sure if I would label the Boston Celtics dirty. Boston was more of an in-your-face trash talking team from reports, and they would let a lot of teams know that. Players like Larry Bird and Danny Ainge were tough on the defensive end of the floor. I saw games in which Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale would make opposing players lose their confidence in the paint with their defensive skills, but I wouldn't exactly call the Boston Celtics dirty. The Philadelphia 76ers were an extremely physical defensive unit too. Julius Erving and Bobby Jones played very physical defense, but Dr. J was universally loved in the league back then and not too much would be discussed about that. The LA Lakers had some enforcers on their teams like Maurice Lucas and a few very physical players like Mitch Kupchak, Kurt Rambis and Michael Cooper, but as a team, I never considered the Lakers a dirty team. The Detroit Pistons, NY Knicks, and Chicago Bulls? No question, no doubt about it! I ranked those teams as the most physical and downright dirty teams during the 1980's and 90's. I have no hate for any of those teams. In fact, I respected how those teams played and intimidated opponents. But I must call what I saw as an NBA fan.
Bill is great. He just didn't take the elbows and pushing, and stood up to it and gave it back. If you hate him for that, that is your problem. Ewing is pushing in the back and throwing elbows, Oakley is playing just as dirty as anyone in this video. The Knicks were not the victims, they were doing the same stuff. That is just the way the NBA was back then.
The Knicks were the 90’s Bad Boys, within the rules (except for Oakley). The Pistons were a great team, but the league hated them. If David Stern could’ve omitted their championships from the books he would have
@@davidestick9936 No doubt he would have. He saw to it that during the Parade of their first championship in 1989, that Rick Mahorn would be taken aside to be told he wouldn't be with the Pistons anymore because Minnesota selected him in the expansion draft. He then implemented rules, that basically said they could no longer play defense, after MJ whined to him about their dirty playing, and they did play dirty, but that's no reason to take away from their back to back championships. They made the ECF 1987-1991, and the NBA Finals, 1988, 1989, and 1990.
@@Triple10101 This is another history that Isiah does not want to talked about. How the Knicks sent them home in the playoffs. There's a new bad boys in town
Laimbeer roll blocked him in that opening sequence. He put his hands down on the floor in the opposite direction from where he was pushed and cut his legs out from under him. If I were Ewing, I would have caught him later in the game with one of those back-elbows while holding the ball with 2 hands like Karl Malone used to do to people or the atomic forearm that Parish gave him.
I don’t have the words to describe how beautiful it was to watch the NBA back then, even on any given Tuesday was always can’t miss action!!! Thank God I was alive to see it for myself 🙌👏🔥💯
Laimbeer. Loved by Pistons fans and by exactly no one else.
As a Celts fan and looking back now, I sort of appreciate Laimbeer in a "every good story needs a villain" kind of way.
When winning mattered more than being loved. REAL sports.
Damn right!
Shit I'm from Louisiana. He was one of my favorite players. You had to respect the pistons. Every starter would throw hands. I miss that era
@@maxwellhowell it was a very different style of play than now. People often ask of the players of yesterday would do well today. I think they would as they'd have more protection. Now a simple shove gets both the shover and shovee technical fouls. Still, I think Laimbeer was a dirty dog as a player.
laimbeer did that intentional as hell. its obvious. the announcers are blind
Yooo. Laimbeer CLEARLY did that on purpose. He faked a fall to dive into Ewing's knees. I knew he was dirty but this is disrespectful as a competitor. He went after the guys legs on purpose.
EXACTLY!
Biased is more like it
Dirty
The announcers talked like Laimbeer never did anything wrong, it was always the other guys fault. 😡
80-90's basketball was so physical... loved it!
60s 70s are more physical
@@coloredplanetantinazifreak5521 40-50's were
Other than Chris child’s no one in the NBA has ever thrown and landed a direct hard punch ..all girl swings that never land!
@@richardlacey4923 has NOTHING to do with how physical the game was back then.. and also, Rudy Tomjonavich had his nose broken by Kermit
Washington, and that was the most brutal punch ever.. you are like what? 20 years old? lol you need more exp before you can level up..
That's beyond physical. That's just dirty.
It wasn’t just the physicality, having players genuinely disliking each other made the games so much more intense.
That part! You didn't see all of these bro-mances in the league like today.
@@dopeasme9962Whenever you watch a documentary or interview... these guys still genuinely despise each other / talk shit about each other. No love lost to this day between guys like Bird or Pippen and Laimbeer. I loved seeing the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary about the Bad Boys; Laimbeer just trash talking all the people he played against. Only sad part is that he'll never make the HOF or get an NBA coaching job, even though he should, because of how everybody hates him.
Nah is jus when u get paid more u smile more doesn’t stop u from competing
One of the dirtiest Sleastacks ever.
@@festusaniemeka3350I'm guessing you didn't watch in the 80s and early 90s.
To this day, Hubie Brown's still never seen a dirty play Laimbeer ever committed.
Yep. And he still hates Patrick Ewing too
@@donarthiazi2443Does he? He coached Ewing for 2 yrs
Both announcers defending Laimbeer on that first play is hilarious.
Hubie is a biased POS as a commentator. Any semi-objective person can see exactly what Laimbeer did to Ewing in the first play.
Agree! Laimbeer obviously moved under Ewing after he went to the floor. Dirty play.@@coinraker6497
When basketball was worth watching
Totally agree the NBA sucks now and is woke out the ass!!
@BUCKEYE VINNIE It sucks now due to nothing but jacking up 3's and flopping. I swear yall clowns say everything is woke.
@@buckeyevinnie8456stupid comment
real basketball?? it sucked. more than half of these guys wouldnt even be on todays nba team.
That part❤💪
That's one of Laimbeer's go-to dirty moves: when the guy he was covering was up in the air, he'd gauge where they'd land and use some part of his body to make sure they didn't come down on a flat surface as expected. Larry Bird didn't hate Laimbeer because he was tough; he wasn't. Bird hated him because he was a cheap shot artist who literally tried to injure opponents. You'd go up for a rebound and Laimbeer would put his foot where your feet were expecting land, causing ankle injuries.
Robert Parrish put Lamebeer in his place.
@@MikeJones-rk1un That was great!
Bird says Laimbeer did that to him once… and then Bird pulled the same move on him… and Laimbeer never did it again.
Perfectly said in every way. The true tough guys were the guys who absorbed the cheap shots. Anyone can hit someone, especially when they're not looking as was so often the case here.
Chief rocked him.
Man, I miss 80s/90s basketball so much
Exactly. Imagine him playing defense on Lebron james.
Laimbeer and Rodman were Geniuses to the Flopping back then..they were masters!..Those 2 were fun to watch for me!..We'll never see or enjoy this NBA again.
The Football off season wasn’t so bad for sports fans back when the NBA was like this. It was awesome!
Bro watch wrestling
Bill talking shit with a black eye! What a character
Laimbeer was such a classic villain, as a Celtics fan the game that Robert Parish cleaned his clock was priceless to watch 😂
Parrish was dirty for that and the corrupt refs didn’t even call a foul or eject him. Celts cheated.
Thisteam.remind.me.oakland.raiders
Yeah from behind catching Laimbeer off-guard. Face to face Parish probably would've got a beating from Laimbeer like Brad Daugherty did when they fought. Anybody can hit someone from behind when they're not expecting it.
Lambeer was an all star and a champion deal with it
This was about laimbeer vs Ewing not laimbeer vs Boston - Boston scumbag
Mid 80s and 90s basketball called no bloods no fouls..
6:52 Laimbeer and Rodman were 2 of the best at throwing an elbow that goes unnoticed
Bill lambeer has a point here?!?!? Clear dirty play
Lol
pretty obvious how Lambeer crawled backwards conveniently tripping Ewing he prolly thought he was smart and would get away with it but the refs werent having any of it.
Yes, ewing pushing from behind like a coward is a dirty play and his flop like he was hurt was embarrassing.
@@BlaneNostalgia ewing pushing Lam from behind was a coward move. Clear dirty play by ewing like always.
LOL how in tf did they take laimbeers side on that? He clearly ducked to take out Ewing’s legs wtf
So you didn't see the CLEAR PUSH in the back of Laimbeer, that tossed him to the floor? Now honestly, LAIMBEER did get pushed, but HELPED IT OUT A BIT! It was just bad luck, that Ewing fell and tripped over him! BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, Laimbeer, Mahorn, and the BAD BOYS, are STILL IN THEIR HEADS, 30 plus years later!
@@GOBLUEADAM He just "used" the push to pretend that he slipped/tripped (interrestingly enough to the direction that he was pushed) so he could fell under Ewings legs. Laimbeer was tough I give you that but unfortunatelly he was fucking dirty and he intentionally wanted to "take out" star player from other teams by deliberately hurting them. He got what he deserved, he is hated by most fans still today, he is hated by retired players, he does not get any media jobs and most importantly he will never get to hall of fame. It was his choice.
@@GOBLUEADAM It's fascinating how he was 'pushed' and then fell in a totally different direction.
Ya, that was a dirty play by Laimbeer.
@@GOBLUEADAM Yeah they were in the Knicks head so bad the Knicks only beat them by 20 something points in the deciding game of that series. Would’ve been by more, but the Bad Boys were in their heads too much lol
Everyone hated Bill Laimbeer except his teammates! Lol
AND THE ENTIRE STATE OF MICHIGAN! We still love LAIMBEER, the baddiest of the BAD BOYS!
@@GOBLUEADAM nahhh, he's face don't deserved BadBoy, he looks like beautiful like a big bad gay 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@@GOBLUEADAM LOL Laimbeer? The incredibly average player who folded when confronted with his own "bad boy" tactics? Ok...
@@MikeSchmidt969 he was more than average especially in his era because he was one of the few big men that shot the 3 at that time.
Like Rodman. People didn't like Rodman except us Bulls fans and pistons when he played there.
Laimbeer was pushed but he undercut Ewing. He is a dirty player, no doubt.
Aww poor patty eww-wing never got a wing. Lambeer back to back world champ
@clot shots Laimbeer, the only person I’ve ever seen fall in the opposite direction he was “pushed”.
@@Embur12 I agree with Gilbert Arenas.. Unskilled hackers like Laimbeer wouldn’t being playing today… lolol😂
@@nmr20067The Gilbert Arenas! The guy with an 11-20 playoff record. Lambeer could shoot the 3, was a better rebounder, and had a better fg and ft %. His record was 71-42 in the playoffs against the best in the league Jordan, Bird, and Magic all while collecting back to back Championship rings. Gilbert who????
Look carefully lambeer flopped
Guess that's why "Bill Laimbeer's Combat Basketball" was a thing for the Super Nintendo game system back in the day.
Ewing is 60 years old Aug 5th. Man time flies
wow
And who cares?
@@bobdavis3357 Who hurt you as a child
Every team in the late 80s/early 90s had at least one enforcer-type player whose role was primarily to go out there and hit guys. Most of them rode the bench, like Kurt Rambis. Some of them started, like Charles Oakley and Bill Laimbeer. The "Bad Boy" Pistons had a bunch of those guys, thus the nickname.
Not only to hit guys but the main role of the enforcer was to protect the superstar.
that other Big Mo, Maurice Lucas was an enforcer
Kurt rambis didn't "ride the bench." He started for championship Lakers teams
@@stevenjm12 Wrong, the Lakers starters were Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Bryan Scott, & AC Green, Ramis started in 77 games & 74 games when Lakers lost of Boston & Philly. otherwise, he started 20, 10, 10, 46, 31 & 43 games on those Laker Dynasties
Knicks also had Mason and even McDaniels in 1992.. plus starks and greg anthony, that 1992 Knicks Pistons series was brutal.
Bill Laimbeer: Dirty ass player, but so good for the league ratings
Like a pro wrestler...
You could see the pistons were beyond their golden days and the new bullies on the block were not scared of them
Ny didn't win dik fool. Comparing a Hall of fame team like the great Pistons to these loser Knicks is pathetic.
"Bill Laimbeer has a point here." What? No he doesn't. No one pushed him. He intentionally went down under Ewing on that first play.
the commentators are dumb
They loved their white boys
He was pushed but he also went under him intentionally.
lol he clearly flopped.
Flopper
Patrick Ewing. My favorite NBA player ever! Great memories growing up in New York City when he played for the New York Knicks.
The Knicks won't have another team as good as those Patrick Ewing / Pat Riley teams of the early 90s while Dolan owns the team.
The Knicks were pathetic
Jordan Loved beating Ewing 💓
@@mikeaustin1323 I agree, any damn WNBA team would have beaten their lame asses lol! 😂
Like him missing that layup or him getting dunked on
When pushed you normally go forward not backwards .He intentionally dove under him on purpose. Them commentators must be watching another game.
Nope…..that’s home cooking commenting….if he had knocked his teeth out he would still be acting like he did nothing
Lame bear should have had a snidley whiplash mustache ! One of the dirtiest players in the history of the league.
Big boys basketball 💪🏻
the bad boys from Detroit, what a team, and Laimbeer was a key part of their success .
Bunch of hacks who try to take players out
The bad boy Detroit Pistons were a bunch of low life cheating criminals who played the game of basketball. Good thing Michael Jordan took care of them and ended their pathetic two year reign of dirty play and trying to injure people. They all belong in prison and not walking the streets. I will never forget how your two ex bad boy Pistons Rick Mahorn and Bill Laimbeer teamed up to start beating up on women in the WNBA. Rick Mahorn assaulted Lisa Leslie. What do you expect from ex bad boy Pistons. They are a disgrace to the game of basketball and the black ex bad boy Pistons make black people look bad by playing into the criminal stereotype of black people. They should all be ashamed of themselves. They will always be looked at as a bunch of low life thugs who won back to back because the league allowed them to cheat and hurt people and play dirty. No respect in that Elwood Palmer!
Thank God I got to live through that era of Basketball 🏀 before it was ruined!!
diversity, sjw, blm, etc etc .. has ruined most of what is left of my people's culture
Amen to that brother 😒
truth
What a little hard foul and then the drama of delay games of guys acting they will fight and they don't????stop it man i live that era and i hate to see people acting like every team was physical and dirty it was only Detroit and all stars were complaining about it so is not like everyone was playing physical...
@@platano3000x having lived and watched that era …yea every team went hard played the game with balls and actually played team basketball! The league now is selfish and soft
Laimbeer was a very good player who gladly played the role of enforcer and goon. Every great team needs players willing to do the dirty work and he certainly did plenty of dirty work in the paint.
Dirty work is one thing .Rebounding setting screens diving for loose balls. Bill Laimbeer tried to injure players on a regular basis.
@@5star64 heard the same crap about bruce bowen just coz he played good D and didnt roll over for the 'stars' of the era. its not a game for little girls. maybe try curling.
@@Cristian-vm1bg Bruce Bowen was one of the dirtiest despicable players in NBA history. Your out of your mind.
@@Cristian-vm1bg You poor deluded creature. Bruce Bowen would purposely trip players and then to play nice and pretend to want to help them up. He consistently stuck his feet under jump shooters not giving them a place to land. So they would sprain their ankles when the came down on his shoes. One of the dirtiest plays in league history. And you defend that shit.
Damn!! I didn't realize how much pushing and shoving was allowed during the late 1980's and early 1990's by these two teams. And technical fouls were only called half of the times. I didn't realize how much chirping was allowed too!? Awesome memories.
amazing how it all got pussified and shit now isn't it?
Yeah. It’s called basketball.
Also, hear the fans! A lot more heart back in the day. Today's NBA players are incredibly athletic but the NBA has really sold out 😕
@@jefftaylor1186 no it's not. It's called standing around arguing.
@@imsljr420
Right. Basketball.
Love these Detroit announcers, insisting Laimbeer was pushed when he clearly dove, as every replay showed. And their sheer brilliance: “Laimbeer will never be loved by fans except for those in Detroit.” Hehehe
Laim-beer dove, and then backed under Ewing. Dirty and dangerous player.
Tommy Heinsohn and Dick Stockton are not Detroit announcers. They were CBS Sports top crew for 80’s/90’s playoff games.
@@knollwoodtav that’s Hubie Brown know-it-all.
@@brettmaster4695 Laimbeer was a dirty SOB. He had no game, and when someone dunked over him, or showed him up, this is how he retaliated. He saw where the ball was going to land, he knew Ewing's location, so he quickly knelt down knowing that Ewing would fall over him. Why is is that he got into so many altercations with so many other players?, he's dirty that's why.
@@ShadowHawk4219, totally agree. Laimbeer was a talentless thug whose only role was to be an enforcer.
Old skol basketball is still the best game ever!
stay in school*
A true pirate calls it skol
When the Madison Square Garden crowd chanted “Laimbeer sucks!”, he knew he was doing something right. 😂
That Bill Laimbeer was something else!
That was a very dangerous play by laimbeer. He really could have injured Ewing’s legs. Ewing got position to get the offensive rebound, Laimbeer knew Ewing was going to get the rebound. To prevent him from scoring on the put back, laimbeer fell into Ewing’s legs when Ewing jumped to get the rebound.
Seriously, can anyone remember a time in Ewing’s career where he didnt look like he was 55? I feel like he entered league with bad knees
Rumour is that they are still mopping up Patrick Ewing's sweat at the Garden from his playing days
😆.....got me...I laughed
*Real Basketball, When Basketball & The Refs Were Legit.* *I No Longer Watch Modern Day NBA games, and rarely watch the highlights...rarely!*
Back when men played basketball.
Men play basketball now. They just don’t need the approval of wife bearers and others with fucked up notions of “manhood”
😂love him or hate him, Laimbeer makes pretty good material to illustrate how tough it was to play during their time😂
He was a good player also… really good jump shot…keep out the paint and he’d leave you alone 😂😂🤣🤣👌🏾
Patrick Ewing is underrated hands down
He is the most underrated player of all time at this point!
@@yuriykhasidov1626 Agreed more or so in his prime.People don’t remember the beast he was in his prime.He was at like 30PTS 12 Boards and the craziest part 4 blocks
I remember the 90's Knicks. They were the most exciting team in the league. I went to a few playoff games at the Garden.
THEY WERE PURE THUGS, along with the Pat Riley led Miami Heat. They tried to be BAD BOYS, but they had no game, and just beat people up!
@@GOBLUEADAM A Detroit fan saying other teams were thugs. That's rich.
@@MikeSchmidt969 LMAO
@@GOBLUEADAM piston fan calling knicks thugs jeez how willfully ignorant can you.get?
@@GOBLUEADAM Agreed. People talk about the Bad Boys. The Knicks under pat riley was more physical than the Pistons. The Pistons had 4 big time scorers who could explode for 30 at anytime Thomas, Dumars, The Microwave & Aguirre. Not to mention Laimbeer was a stretch 5. You're right
1:05 that might be the most dangerous fouls I've seen. "let me crouch down.. then fall back into him to take out his legs". at least the ref caught it.. of course Daly defends it. and the announcers saying "Lambeer was right about that one" is insane.. Even if Ewing pushed off.. he tried to injure Ewing 100%.
Ewing is a giant among men.
...yet once had his shot blocked by Spud Webb.
Miss the old days when NBA players actually hated each other. Lol
Ewing, McDaniels, and Oakley were a scary secondary 😳
And Mason
No argument here.
You can't forget Mason my b
Man that was a dirty play by laimbeer
You blind?
@@Realdealrob you blind???
@@jeanblue9038 gotta do better than that
Yo this convo was 3 weeks ago...move on bro
Which one? Lol
This was my favorite time period of NBA basketball...so intense and played by players who did everything to win.
what, you dont like watching 2 hours of bricks from the 3line, fouls for looking at your opponent, players taking 4 steps with the ball constantly never called, political and social matters injected on the court, extremely overpaid and under performing "athletes" who are all premadonnas?
c'mon mannnnnn
Bull Laimbeer and Patrick Ewing were radiating Black Air Force energy back then, holy
Bill Laimbeer was no punk !! People don't understand what its like to live with Detroit in your blood ! Color doesn't dictate real when you have Detroit behind you. TRUST !
HOW did Bill Laimbeer, named to FOUR All-Star games, co-exist with Pat Ewing and Robert Parish, during All-Star weekend practices and games?
Sad to see the league today.
Two of the physically toughest teams of that era. Loved to watch, glad I didn't have to play against them. Ouch!!!! Lol
I miss this so much
When you have Mcdaniel and oakley in your team, you can fight anyone.
They also had Anthony Mason on that team..
Everyone except the Pistons!!
And mason
@@CJuspsbefore they lost Mahorn I might agree but after he was gone...no, the Knicks were the tougher team at that point. Hence why they got beat by them in 92
@@jbellflower83 at the height of both teams "tough guy play" ...who you taking the Pistons on the Knicks????
Loved them both. Great era in NBA history.
Bill Laimbeer was trash
Miss this era of the NBA.
I miss the grit of it sometimes, but I do think they aren’t as skilled as today. It’s a balance to me.
@@benjamin29471 Not as much finesse as today's game, IMHO
Laimbeer was the perfect villain. I was around 10 years old during the 89-90 Pistons dynasty. They were invincible.
I miss this kind of NBA play.
Golden era!!! Real basketball,real men
These 2 teams would get prison sentences in 2022
Yep. As soon as the games are over, they'd be handcuffed and booked in the local police department jail
If only the reff and the League allowed this kind of basketball again in this millennium.
Sorry its all about complaining about fouls and shooting threes
Malice in the Palace changed everything....
Imagine all the Divas like Harden,Lebum and Westbrick in that era
😂🤣😂
😅😆
I think Westbrook would have been good in this era, I don't really like his game but he does play hard
I think you mean Hard-on.
Wym? Westbrook is a decently tough dude. Harden is soft no question, and Lebron is debatable.
The greatest team that never was, the Ewing era Knicks.
Ewing was a little past his prime by the time Pat Riley got there, but he had a supporting cast of Rivers, Starks, McDaniel (in 1992), Oakley, Harper (later on), Charles Smith, Hubert Davis.
@@ILoveOldTWC And they still couldn't win anything because of the brilliance of Michael Jordan (GOAT) and the Chicago Bulls. That Knicks team can still feel Jordan's foot up their rear-ends to this day!
@@habib8961 Hakeem aswell
@@reggiejacksonfan6823 Your right Reggie, I forgot about how Hakeem and Vernon Maxwell and the rest of the Rockets gave those same Knicks a good ass whipping in the 1994 finals. Actually Hakeem and the rockets use to beat up on Michael and the bulls a lot to. Hakeem had a winning record against Jordan and the Bulls. It would have been nice to see Hakeem and the rockets play Jordan and the bulls in the finals. Not sure the Bulls would have won against Hakeem.
Mj .... hold my beer
Xavier brought a extra toughness to that team
No one likes Laimbeer, including me (and rightly so, he was a dirty player), but someone must have taught him how to fight for real. The time he and Barkley got into it, Laimbeer got the best of it, which no one expected. Maybe his butler was a pugilist when he was growing up.
Bill is great. He just didn't take the elbows and pushing, and stood up to it and gave it back. If you hate him for that, that is your problem. Ewing is pushing in the back and throwing elbows, Oakley is playing just as dirty as anyone in this video. The Knicks were not the victims, they were doing the same stuff. That is just the way the NBA was back then. If you backed down you were roadkill, so Bill did what he had to do to survive.
Even the commentators were paid-off on this one. It is as clear as day that Laimbeer purposely bridged Ewing.
Grande Bill, un saluto da Brescia. 💪😊
I wish basketball would go back to this way. So physical, that it would separate the real men from boys. Today's era of players would struggle in the 1990s. No easy buckets, everything is earned!
Many of us agree with you, unfortunately we will never see this type of basketball again. Thank God for CZcams.
@@bambam8527 Be careful Bambam 85, LeBron and Stephen Curry might try and have you arrested for saying that if they can figure out who you are.
My name is Sharad Bamberg. I live in Staten Island, New York. Ain't hard to find and got nothin to hide lol
@@bambam8527 lol, I hope Lebron and Steph dont' show up and tell the police to arrest you for disrespecting them.
@@habib8961
Lmbbfao
Curry is tough
LJ is a 6'8" sissy
Patrick and Bill were great. Bill was nasty and when he was upset it didnt destabilize his game. As a big man he could have played today because he could hit outside shots as well as any big and could pick and skip. In the playoffs the pistons knew other teams would arrive with headphones and try to open up a can of hip hop spaghettios. But the Pistons wouldnt have any of that and it would wind up all over the front of your shirt.
Laimbeer is too slow for today's game.
Laimbeer aimed to hurt other players and possibly end their careers. He wasn't a good sport either.
@@puppethound no he isn’t.
@@puppethound he would be Jokic....if he could just play
i love basketball in the 80s and 90s. Now i cant watch it. They just sit back and shoot 3s all day.
Bill Laimbeer is the Grayson Allen of the 1990s
The only difference is that Grayson has some basketball skills.
Beautiful defensive play at 6:50
Occurred in the 90’s
Jersey’s from the 80’s
Commentators from the 70’s
Refs from the 60’s
Arena from the 50’s
Taped from the 40’s
Maaaan...I MISS these days...True NBA basketball.......
Laimbeer had a smooth jump shot
Honestly Nobody cares really cause nobody liked him at all.
HAHAHA Roger is a soy boy. 🤣
Great video
As a Pistons fan I am soooo glad Laimbeer never left the Pistons or I would have permanently suffered from LDS (Laimbeer Derangement Syndrome)
No ejections. Basketball has changed a lot now.
Yes. For the better.
@@cmack17 not really
@@davemartino5997
Yes. Really.
@@cmack17 For the better?? Basketball is my favorite sport and I played it in college. I cannot and will not watch the NBA. It's 🗑. Millions of people agree with me. Check the dwindling ratings
@mongoslade277
1. Yes, for the better
2. Basketball is my favorite sport and I also played in college.
3. If you do not "watch the NBA", how would you know what the NBA is like? In fact, why did you even watch this video?
4. It does not matter if millions ageee with you. The NBA is making money hand over fist. This would indicate that millions disagree with you also.
5. Ratings are "dwindling" because people consume the NBA from other sources than TV.
Setting all of that aside...
I am 100% confident that people were complaining about "NBA basketball" during the exact era that you think was the golden era of basketball.
Let us explore this together.
When was NBA Basketball great?
What changed?
Say what you will about Laimbeer, the guy never backed down from ANYBODY! He was a modern day American warrior!
Right..a great cheap shot thrower too
@@boomermeerang7614 Doesn't renege what I said.
He’s a spoiled rich little daddy’s boy and he tried to end players careers.
Maybe YOUR version of a “warrior”. Not mine.
My version of a guy who needs his ass beat so severely that he repents of his scumbag ways.
Laimbeer needs Robert Parrish to straighten him out . Lol
Patrick Ewing always excercised phenominal restraint with Bill Laimbeer because he knew how valueable he was to the Knicks and they couldn't afford for him to be thrown out. Laimbeer knew that too, that's why he always fucked with Ewing to provoke him.
LAIMBEER SHOULD BE IN THE HOF. HE IS AN ALL TIME GREAT.
He was great, but not elite. No HOF.
@@johnboehmer6683 who's better Laimbeer or Ben Wallace?
@@camzpras3435
Hey, I think I know where you're going with this, let me start off by saying I really don't think Ben Wallace should be in the Hall of Fame. The fact that he is though does help your case for sure, because a very strong case can be made that Bill was better.
Wallace was an excellent defender, yet Laimbeer averaged only 0.7 less steals per game, and one shot block less per game. Bill should be given some extra defense credit though when considering the mind games he so effectively played on opponents that took them out of their games. Wallace was an excellent rebounder, yet Laimbeer actually had a slightly better rebounds per game average.
Offensively, there's no comparison. Bill scored about 8 points more per game, had a higher field goal percentage, higher free throw percentage by a mile, and we won't even talk about three pointers since Wallace didn't take any. Throw in that Laimbeer co-captained two championship teams, Ben played on one, and I would conclude Laimbeer to be the better player.
Having said all that, I just don't think Laimbeer's overall game or accomplishments can be considered elite, which should really be the requirement to get in the Hall of fame. I really don't know how Wallace got in. His defense was elite, but his offense was actually bad. When half of your game is bad, how does that happen?
Pistons started something they couldn't stop, taking their own medicine
and they kept saying they got old reason why bulls won. they got their ass handed to them by the knicks
There was a video game in 1991 called Bill Laimbeer's Combat Basketball.
Man the crowds was so much better back then. Really into every play of the game without social media lml no cellphones.
Laimbeer was easy to hate, but he was really smart at why and when he would do things with the rules the way they were back then. He would get people so riled up they would get thrown off their game, thats the whole reason he did that stuff. Its dirty and punk behavior, but had its reasons.
That play is not basketball. That is being a punk.
Trying to cripple other players might be "smart" but it's also contemptible.
@@halleck3that was what I was saying, its punk behavior. Back then it could be used to win thats what im getting at, he did it in a calculated way to win. Im glad its not allowed anymore dont take what I said the wrong way.
@@davidca96 I hear you. I guess the thing is I just don't think those are good reasons. But I understand what you're saying.
@@halleck3 I hear ya, its not how I would play or compete either, but its how he played and it DID work during that era, but it doesnt make it any less scummy I also understand your view too.
The greatest era of the NBA. People say they didn’t like all the grabbing and the elbows and the cheap shots - but I loved it. It made an otherwise boring game fun.
You have no idea what what good basketball is
@@heelturnsface in all the comments section people say that this was the greatest era of basketball because it had elements of football in it… And I am inclined to agree!
@@igit_7296 who exactly is "all"?
@@timw8646 the people responding!
If I had to guess, the ratio is more than 10 to 1, at worst.
The BEST era of the basketball sport was when they allowed elements of hockey in it. It made the sport more exciting.
That tall skinny white persons who clotheslined the guy from the lakers who wore glasses. All the stuff that Laimbeer did. When Karl Malone hit the guy in the face from the Detroit team and there was all that blood.
Now the game is too sensitive for these things and it makes it less exciting.
It’s like car racing but no crashes anymore.
Booooring. And everyone feel the same ways.
The modern NBA is a 3 point contest and absolutely suks
Laimbeer read the Ric Flair Book of Basketball. Dirty AF.
When the NBA was a real league with men and not soft fluffed players
This just shows me that Laimbeer was just as good at mind games than Rodman was, but never got credit for it. It also showed that the Knicks had just as many "dirty" players as the Pistons. Ewing was giving it to Laimbeer too; so was Oakley. If you go and watch all the footage of those teams back then, the Celtics, the Lakers and even the Bulls (yes) played "dirty" a good bit. For some reason the Pistons are the only ones that got that moniker that still lives on to this day. Also, the announcers tried to blow it out of proportion. Those Pistons went to the Conference Finals 5 years in a row and to the Finals 3 years in a row. They took the Lakers (who were great) to seven games in the first one, swept them the next year, and beat the Trail Blazers 4-1 the next. You don't do that by just being dirty or having a guy on your team who's just dirty. BTW, I was never a Pistons fan and I actually rooted for the Knicks for quite a few years. Just being honest about what I see.
I have been rewatching a lot of games I had watched during the 1980's and I am realizing how physical the Boston Celtics were. Because of the offensive greatness of Larry Bird and Kevin McHale, their defensive intensity was often overshadowed. Of course, the Boston Celtics physicality would show itself during skirmishes and huge brawls. The prime Boston Celtics from 1984-thru-1986 were the most physical team in the NBA. But I'm not totally sure if I would label the Boston Celtics dirty. Boston was more of an in-your-face trash talking team from reports, and they would let a lot of teams know that. Players like Larry Bird and Danny Ainge were tough on the defensive end of the floor. I saw games in which Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale would make opposing players lose their confidence in the paint with their defensive skills, but I wouldn't exactly call the Boston Celtics dirty. The Philadelphia 76ers were an extremely physical defensive unit too. Julius Erving and Bobby Jones played very physical defense, but Dr. J was universally loved in the league back then and not too much would be discussed about that. The LA Lakers had some enforcers on their teams like Maurice Lucas and a few very physical players like Mitch Kupchak, Kurt Rambis and Michael Cooper, but as a team, I never considered the Lakers a dirty team.
The Detroit Pistons, NY Knicks, and Chicago Bulls? No question, no doubt about it! I ranked those teams as the most physical and downright dirty teams during the 1980's and 90's. I have no hate for any of those teams. In fact, I respected how those teams played and intimidated opponents. But I must call what I saw as an NBA fan.
Bill is great. He just didn't take the elbows and pushing, and stood up to it and gave it back. If you hate him for that, that is your problem. Ewing is pushing in the back and throwing elbows, Oakley is playing just as dirty as anyone in this video. The Knicks were not the victims, they were doing the same stuff. That is just the way the NBA was back then.
@@arizjones bill is a hack . He’s always starting shit then acts like a victim afterwards. Especially when he gets beat under the basket .
The Knicks were the 90’s Bad Boys, within the rules (except for Oakley). The Pistons were a great team, but the league hated them. If David Stern could’ve omitted their championships from the books he would have
@@davidestick9936 No doubt he would have. He saw to it that during the Parade of their first championship in 1989, that Rick Mahorn would be taken aside to be told he wouldn't be with the Pistons anymore because Minnesota selected him in the expansion draft. He then implemented rules, that basically said they could no longer play defense, after MJ whined to him about their dirty playing, and they did play dirty, but that's no reason to take away from their back to back championships. They made the ECF 1987-1991, and the NBA Finals, 1988, 1989, and 1990.
Great rivalry......loved basketball back then
I was (still am) a West coast kid, but I had the black and grey Ewings that came out in like 1992? I use to skateboard in those giant things.
Show this to Morant and ask him again if he still wants to play in this era
Ja Morant would be paralyzed!!!!
@@Triple10101 This is another history that Isiah does not want to talked about. How the Knicks sent them home in the playoffs. There's a new bad boys in town
Bill Laimbeer. My fav player. Go Irish ☘️.
Excellent vid
Thanks
Laimbeer lived rent-free in so many domes... :D
Laimbeer roll blocked him in that opening sequence. He put his hands down on the floor in the opposite direction from where he was pushed and cut his legs out from under him. If I were Ewing, I would have caught him later in the game with one of those back-elbows while holding the ball with 2 hands like Karl Malone used to do to people or the atomic forearm that Parish gave him.