Loose Or Tight Trucks Better?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Trying the same tricks with loose trucks vs tight trucks! Thanks @spencernuzzi for filming.
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Loose is mostly king because it teaches you proper board control and trains specific muscles to compensate for turns, stability etc. Tight is better for specific scenarios like coming down big stair sets or hill bombing.
Confirmed! Loose trucks are sketchy for hill bombs. I just setup a short cruiser board with some turny longboard trucks and it is so sketchy going down any hill.
Agreed, until I started bombing a lot of hills. And I have to use looser to med loose trucks to bomb hills comfortably, for me I ride a tighter loose set of trucks for skating “street” and more tech stuff. 😂
Basically I ride Indy’s with the bolt to the edge on trans and hills and ventures with loose bushings but “tightened” for street and tech.
I’ve even been riding a combo of hard and med bushings in my Indy’s to get a certain feel, bottom med bushings and hard black tops.
Defiantly agree
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I dunno man, Nyjah and Yuto and Mullen all have very tight trucks and they're all gods, maybe they're onto something o:
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Whats better is what you're used to, i struggle to skate loose these days, i did when i was young, but i was so fast that the wheel bite ended up sending me flying and cutting me up pretty bad a few times, so i tightened up the trucksto prevent it, then thps cane out, I can't remember which one, maybe 4, bams special was the one wheel firework show, and I had to learn 1 wheel manuals and one wheel nose manuals, so I went super tight, to the point i had to file my kingpins down for grinds... I did get the one wheels to a decent level.
Now I just tighten a couple of turns out of the box and usually lly
I have settled on medium. Started out super tight. Went as loose as the king pin would allow. My skating definitely improved by skating loose
I ride a tight back truck and loose front truck. I keep a tool on me and tighten my front truck for manuals or nollie tricks
That's typically how I keep it as well!
To me it makes sense people like daewon and real technical skaters who do a lot of tight closer to the ground tricks prob have better luck with looser trucks for the most part, and anyone who's doing like big stair sets, rails, transition, prob prefer tighter trucks
Tight vs loose on the mega ramp next.
That would be deadly!
I ride Indy's and I just don't fiddle with them. I think it's a good middle ground. -Cheers
That's the way!
I'm the same, for the most part. Straight out of the bag for the front truck, and the back truck gets tightened half a turn after I break in the bushings. Always been perfect for me 👌
So rad, great way of showcasing tight vs loose 👍👍👍👍😘
i was recently wondering this exact question, thanks for making a video about it.
Hard bushings load up a little bit better, probably. Like if you’re learning tre’s it might get easier with hard bushings or tighter trucks. That’s what I think anyway.
A few months ago, I hadn’t skated in like 15 years (for real). I went into it knowing I would still be able to kickflip but I lacked balance. I was using hard bushings cranked all the way to feel stable on my board. But when I started jumping off drops and going to the park more often, medium bushings just felt better and no more hot pockets. Which feels like wheelbite for your ankles tbh
I still use my hard bushings board, but I backed off on the nut and use it to practice big spins and ride on grinds and stuff like that.
Also; you’re right about pop being more difficult with loose bushings, I just put my back foot more in the pocket, or closer to the bolts/concave and it gives you a straight pop with medium bushings. I picked that one up just watching yuto skate, haha.
The closer to the trucks, the less leverage against it you will have. Have you ever used a long breaker bar? The longer the bar, the more leverage you get. So if you pop on the tip of the tail you will probably end up popping on the toe side or heel side. Whereas if you’re closer to the truck, then the board will only pivot on the axles and not the kingpin. In theory.
I’m a taller heavier skater mainly my height. One of my biggest complaints are stock bushings on any truck. I’ve found that Indy’s hardest bushings are really good for my weight (215lb). I ride tighter on the tighter medium side. Tried bones hardcore, CANNOT stand the popping sound of the plastic inside the bushing. Okay, enough of my bushing madness. Dope video dude, thanks for posting this!!!🤙
I'm with ya... I'm 6'2" and about 215lbs so I need tighter trucks. I've learned to skate with the rear truck really tight and very firm bushings, but my front truck is looser so I can turn when pushing. The downside is that I have to kickturn every transition, but honestly Its kinda fun! Almost every trick starts with a kickturn motion, lifting up that front truck to go into a trick. I just suck at fakie riding the board backwards.
The popping comes from the black washer that comes with the bushings, once i removed mine that aggressive ass sound disappeared
Yeah comparing different skate bushings sounds interesting maybe that influence coordination and pop.
Im 6’1 205lbs, i was riding indies at first and the stock bushings are too soft. Im on ventures now and the stock bushings are actually great for me. Very stable.
@@itzEnJ yeah and foot size on board pressure on the board it's also can be correlate with that ,it's change everything.
Trying not to sound mean or rude at all but the biggest difference in loose/tight trucks was evident when you were doing the tre flip test. The loose trucks were easier for you, mainly because you lazily let the board spin and rotate due to the trucks being so loose and naturally wanting to turn/spin. It was clear you dont actually know how to tre flip when you tightened the trucks. As mean as that sounds, you dont actually know how to do the trick without letting the board lazily spin for you with loose trucks. It would be beneficial for you to incrementally tighten your trucks and try to get consistent with that trick, which allows you to break free from the "lazy" scoop. Some might disagree and say if you can land a trick, you know how to do it. Just my thoughts, I think with the tight/loose truck debate you have to find a middle ground where you get advantages, but you aren't sacrificing your own skill for shortcuts.
Thats why medium trucks for the win🏆
I was having a ton of problems with laserflips, balance issues since the foot positioning is so awkward that by the time I was about to pop I lost all control and balance and always ended up doing the flip with one feet on the ground... I tightened the trucks to the max and this problem disappeared.
I love a good in between~✨
I always keep the nut flush on the kingpin. Its a visual ocd thing for me lol but nut flush on the kingpin works best for me.
I ride 56mm spits with no risers so i do a half turn off factor set indies. I also like a little bit of bounce when i come out of a pinch grind. If my wheel is just pressed into the board there is no bounce
Where did you find your lurpivs? Medium/loose with 1/8 risers seems to work out well for me. Enough stability and no wheel bite.
They should be in shops soon! I'm lucky to have some sent to me.
You've got surfskates right? Can you a vid on how you ride them differently to regular boards in general and in the bowl?
I’m glad my observation about the pivot joint being squared but slightly rounded, made sense, I was worried it was confusing lol. I think for beginners it’s good to start on the tighter end, because they don’t have the balance yet, it can be scary and demoralizing for them, but as they progress and improve in all areas, they can loosen the trucks. The loose trucks will allow them to turn and catch their balance, just like you said (the board won’t want to keep going straight like when tight, it will turn with them). Ultimately it’s all personal preference, but you don’t want to go to extremes as both can be problematic, like wheel bite from it being too loose.
That was exactly my experience, tight as first then eventually looser to get that board control.
I wish I could skate loose or even medium trucks, but I just can't, I lose all confidence and stability even when landing and everything rockets or just feels "floppy" for lack or a better word. I gave it a whole damn year even to try getting used to it and adapt, and I just cannot. I've been skating since 2007 with tight trucks so that probably doesn't help, my body EXPECTS them to be tight, it literally feels wrong and gross with anything else. I'm okay with it though, if having tight trucks costs me style and makes me look more "robotic" or whatever, then so be it, at least my tricks pop high and are consistent and clean. Also Nyjah, Yuto, and Rodney all have tight trucks, among other god skaters, so maybe we're onto something, just a crackpot theory lmao. Also maybe it helps that my bottom bushings are 90a and my top bushings are 94a, who knows, but that definitely helps me feel like i'm not on a solid log even though my trucks are tight.
Tensor brophys with bones soft bushings with truck nut flush
Medium trucks all day. Trucks that are too loose just open the flood gates for eating shit more often and make it harder for me to skate.
When Ventures lose @street & tranny feels kind of controlled everywhere. Thunder medium lose but tighter when going faster indys same as thunders. Pop indeed better when tighter but more boring. Big like for the video.
Daewon only rides his front truck like its falling off, and laser tight on the rear.
I think it's important to remember one man's slappy (especially with mainly street skaters that dont ride vert or big bowl) is another man's sloppy ( especially if he rides a lot of vert and big ramps). I'm returning after being sidelined for nearly two decades after car wrecks and bad insurance laws in my state. Its surprising to see how nasty some folks get talking about this online. I came up in 88 and the standard was tight trucks and hard bushings or you'd get speed wobble on big ramps(death). The old vert guys wouldn't ride my setup thinking it was too loose for ramp or transition with stock trackers. It always seemed crappy trucks had sloppy wobbly bushings that wont tune to tight. Nowadays I'm getting bullied for talking about speed wobble and my major disappointment with ACE even with their" hard" bushings loaded up. Its mainly how they don't tune like a truck is supposed to, should adjust to loose or tight when needed and the design issue with the hanger blocking a socket style wrench sucks. I like my mini logos stock and broken in tight most people my age and weight complain about are too loose, and I get trolled for talking about it. Even the rad younger kids at the park hate on ace and prefer tight trucks with hard bushings, even ones sponsored by ACE dis them. What's being said online and what's what's said by the legit every day skaters in person is night and day. Telling kids that are learning to drop in for the first time that " loose trucks save lives" is kinda BS and dangerous in my opinion, especially with the rise in parks and transition. If you have to stand in cross lock just to stay on flat land your doing it wrong, riding ramps anyway. Loose trucks vibrate and throw you off your board if you go too fast. Why do you think Daewons ankle is blown out? Ramps and wobbly trucks.
Tight trucks not only save your life on a ramp, they are pretty much the only way to go if you talk to vert and big bowl guys.
Idk every pool ripper I skate with has loose trucks for better carving around pockets
@LegoDude182 Not on a big vert ramp dude, and corners are just sideways vert ramps. Speed wobble is real, if you ever rode big fast ramps with loose trucks you wouldn't be talking. I ride looser to medium tension trucks with medium bushings, just not sloppy, there is a difference. My shit is more loose than the kids that rip on the bowls and the old vert guys when we trade setups, they hate ACE and think they are too loose to be comfortable. Kids and old guys alike at the parks always dis ACE and orther "slappy" truck designs, because they wont tune properly and the hanger and axle block the kingpin from a socket seating properly. Please read my actual post before responding with genralizations and assumptions please.
People ride ace a lot where i am
@rowanmadden8689 I Never said people dont ride them and totally aware of their polulairty, mostly online. Just remember, the page and video you are responding to is implying he is done with ACE with less words, calling Lurpiv the new Best and talks about the importance of being able to tighten your trucks enough when needed. This is just a Dunning-Kruger comment not worth a real response, ignoring the mountains of conversation and evidence presented already with baseless one sentence jeers and knee jerk reactions.
@spacelab7135 I wasn't talking about a big vert ramp. I do skate fast ive bombed hills in thrasher contests. As I get faster with pumping I'm slowly tightening my trucks but very little. I'm not talking sloppy loose either but by no means are my trucks tight at all.. everyone I skate with (people rocking truck sponsors board sponsors ect) keeps them as loose as me if not more so. People like different things I personally skate indy but most ppl I skate with rip pools with loose ace trucks so idk.
It's so funny. I have the most trouble with tre flips than anything I've tried to do on a skateboard but I can kickflip all day. Some have the same trouble with kickflips but can treflip like it's nothing. Skateboarding is such a fun, tough and diverse thing.
Hell yeah
It's true, I think a lot of it has to be with our habits (how as flip etc) that we're not aware of. Always helps asking a homie.
I like medium to medium/tight. I like to keep nut close to flush, def within two threads, and I will use harder bushings rather than cranking them. I like front truck a bit looser, not much. It’s easier to manual with a little bit looser trucks
I like the idea of the bowl being a bit cordoned off, scooter kids always just cross through it if it's integrated
When your trucks were tight during your treflip you were less on your toes compared to when you had loose trucks. You were really on your toes for the loose trucks when helps a ton for tres
Zack, You're a Z-Boy ! 🤘😎🤘
Loose trucks 4 life 🏆
14:10 onwards has to be one of the most skateboarder moments😂😂😂😂😂 Just one more try… until u die.
I’m not precise and stable enough to ride loose. I currently ride pretty tight but going to loosen up a bit because while stable for tricks and landings it barely turns and that’s straight up boring to ride. Not only uncomfortable but straight up mentally taxing. Medium is probably best.
It's always good to play around and see how it effects your skating
What park
what wheels you ride?
Spitfire F4 101A in this video
No lock in tricks? Which pinches better? Loose or tight?
I'd imagine loose trucks lock better because it forces the wheel to pinch into your board like wheelbite.
Ben shout out!
Loose trucks are better for turning. Tight trucks provide a more stable riding platform.
You can ride krux wobble loose and still barely turn
Daewon doesn't even use bushings
Loose or tight?
I can’t decide, I would go for something in the middle, lol. I love carving and transitions, but my pop suffers tremendously when I loosen my trucks.
Medium loose
I prefer loose, makes it easier for a noob like me to make sharp turns 🤙 The occasional wheel bite is definitely the biggest downside :(
front looser back tighter
Hard bushings, the nut flush.
Can’t do shii for tricks with loose but can bomb/ride much better
Tight trucks for me. I'm old. I skate homies boards in the pass. Just not me
I swear your skating has just gotten better. Whilst we are here, why not tight up front and loose on the tail, and vice versa? aha
Thank you, I should have done that!
@@ZackDowdy no, great reason for another video 😁
Loosish 👋
Holding the mic to your mouth is definitely unnecessary 😂
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Loose
Kook
Legit !.
Loose