How Different Brand Trucks Effect The Leverage Of Your Pop! - Paul Schmitt

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  • @SigHDucK5
    @SigHDucK5 Před 2 lety +456

    Ben Degros needs to be in on this conversation.

    • @sk8mafia214
      @sk8mafia214 Před 2 lety +26

      Definitely! He’s helped me a lot with paying attention to my setup

    • @memorysometimers3067
      @memorysometimers3067 Před 2 lety +16

      “..fingers of flat” !!!! 👍

    • @fingerboards8405
      @fingerboards8405 Před 2 lety +6

      Agreed

    • @foreroa
      @foreroa Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, but I'm pretty sure Ben learned a lot of what he knows from Dr Paul's write ups... including the term "fingers of flat".

    • @SigHDucK5
      @SigHDucK5 Před 2 lety +2

      When you have 1 deep nerd talking, everyone is in awe and thinking.
      When the dialog begins with 2 deep nerds, that's when ideas really get flowing. (Or everyone else tunes out LOL)

  • @anthonymangia8890
    @anthonymangia8890 Před 2 lety +682

    Yall need to get Ben Dregos on this show! He's no pro, just your average skater.

  • @DGS2605
    @DGS2605 Před rokem +33

    No wonder I can't ollie yet! It's 100% the brand of trucks I ride and absolutely nothing else!

  • @NotoriousNUGS
    @NotoriousNUGS Před 2 lety +112

    This is something as a kid I never really thought about and how much these little things can affect the way you skate. We just got stuff we liked threw it together and skated.

    • @cheddarballs864
      @cheddarballs864 Před 2 lety +7

      And never thought much into how harder some tricks were on our new setups

    • @tresfordays9644
      @tresfordays9644 Před rokem +2

      Same, never thought about it growing up, we all just accepted like “hey, got a new board, gotta get used to it”, now days I can set up a new board and feel completely comfortable cause I finally have consistency with everything I like to skate

  • @richardrockhound6554
    @richardrockhound6554 Před 2 lety +69

    I could listen to this for hours man.

    • @Dav2112
      @Dav2112 Před 2 lety +3

      Was just about to post the same comment, love listening to stuff like this.

    • @richardrockhound6554
      @richardrockhound6554 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Dav2112 its interesting to look at something we all know from the technical experience of physically skateboarding through a physics and engineering lense. For example the tight vs loose bushings impact on truck angles - we all know its easier to tre flip with looser bushings but (I at least) never thought about what's actually happening.

    • @benjaminpotts2097
      @benjaminpotts2097 Před 2 lety +2

      Wooo 'skate-science' knowledge level up!

    • @stilton946
      @stilton946 Před 2 lety +2

      So relaxing

  • @evanjolley1279
    @evanjolley1279 Před 2 lety +15

    you can lose ur mind into board ocd with thinking about this too much

    • @WHDRWN
      @WHDRWN Před 2 lety +2

      deadset

    • @ChadRexlogan
      @ChadRexlogan Před měsícem +2

      Im in the deep end 😭 I’m on my 3rd full setup up and they all suck

    • @ChadRexlogan
      @ChadRexlogan Před 23 dny +1

      @@fasi247 I had a break through I still suck but I had a break through ,WHEEL SIZE.

  • @SONOFABITCH
    @SONOFABITCH Před 2 lety +21

    Rodney Mullen watching this: Well yes obviously.

  • @gnarshread
    @gnarshread Před 2 lety +18

    I do motorcycle track days and this is sooo similar to suspension setup. Everyone's body mechanics and style is different so there is no right or wrong answer. I love it.

    • @geeezhall5374
      @geeezhall5374 Před rokem

      There's a brand of trucks called Avenue that are suspension trucks. I love them.

  • @jackdanok
    @jackdanok Před 2 lety +58

    Love Paul Schmitt !!! Love how skateboarding is still all related to mathematics !!! I always loved skateboarding and as a grown up engineer, I love skateboarding NOW even MORE !!! Thanks Paul !!!

  • @williamrafter2312
    @williamrafter2312 Před 2 lety +13

    Crob kills me. To the skate caddy “hmmm, gimme my wedge truck”

  • @centipedekid9824
    @centipedekid9824 Před 2 lety +67

    The pivot cup normally causes squeaking after a while. I found that putting a little wax shavings in it solves the problem.

    • @manuelmendoza6124
      @manuelmendoza6124 Před 2 lety +8

      The wax trick works good. A little dab of dish soap works great as well

    • @cheothegeo2742
      @cheothegeo2742 Před 2 lety

      @@manuelmendoza6124 i'm gonna try that lol

    • @AlumarsX
      @AlumarsX Před 2 lety

      Hasn't worked in my thunders with bones med. Might try the washer lol

    • @grutfrut5817
      @grutfrut5817 Před 2 lety

      Did that just yesterday. My life is so much better now !

    • @matthewroberts6786
      @matthewroberts6786 Před 2 lety +1

      Squeaking comes from pivot cups. Ace Trucks don’t squeak, never. Indy’s-upgrade those pivot cups.

  • @iloveesskateboarding4014
    @iloveesskateboarding4014 Před 2 lety +28

    Paul is a treasure, protect him at all costs

  • @Airik1111bibles
    @Airik1111bibles Před 2 lety +17

    The squeak is coming from the pivet cup ...How do they not know this 🤔
    Put wax in your pivet cup that little plastic thing opposite side of your kingpin KELLY .

  • @nicolobalestrino
    @nicolobalestrino Před 5 měsíci +2

    This is the kind of talk needed, not the bullshit you hear again the skateparks growing up

  • @flatgroundtv7097
    @flatgroundtv7097 Před 2 lety

    This is a much watch.
    Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

  • @rlight7198
    @rlight7198 Před 2 lety +6

    Doc should have a skate shop where they list the boards with best option trucks for that board.

  • @dangengskate7374
    @dangengskate7374 Před 2 lety +15

    Glad he gave a shoutout to downhill skateboarding (11:00) and all the truck ingenuity going on in that niche of skateboarding. Seriously some of the most well thought out and creatively designed trucks in all of skating right now. Mad scientist type of stuff. Makes sense though, most downhillers I know are crazy gear heads lol.

    • @huntergibson9359
      @huntergibson9359 Před rokem

      As a downhiller that recently spent $500 on trucks, I can confirm this. The real crazy ones are Rojas, $1300 and they look spaceships.

  • @trevorjacques5287
    @trevorjacques5287 Před 2 lety

    Super fascinating, really enjoyed this!

  • @jayhari1713
    @jayhari1713 Před 2 lety +6

    I JUST put new Independents on my new DGK board and, god damn, I shredded the bushings by tightening the fuck outta them before "breaking em in." Lesson learned lol

  • @paullucci
    @paullucci Před 2 lety +3

    I’m happy to see that people who are much better at skating than I am still have these issues dialing in their set up at times

  • @signalpathproductions
    @signalpathproductions Před 2 lety +1

    the science of a skateboard ! i kinda needed to see this! thank you

  • @travispreble
    @travispreble Před rokem +5

    38, just got back into skating after taking a decade off... After having salted for 20 years straights. (life, married, kids, got fat, the whole shabang!) Anyways, this is like therapy to me. Exactly what I need in my life right now.

    • @brendanlovestoeat
      @brendanlovestoeat Před rokem +1

      Hope you’re still shredding bro 🤙

    • @berniemackattack86
      @berniemackattack86 Před měsícem

      37 here I've had a cruiser board for the past few years but getting a set up together for tricks. Haven't really done much tricks since like 2012-13 on a death wish I was gifted and was later stolen. .
      Keep shredding bro 🙏🏽💯

  • @sidwellsk8er
    @sidwellsk8er Před 2 lety +13

    Professor Schmidt is bar none one of the most important people to our sport that isn't a professional skater. He makes it work and he does the thinking so that the skaters can focus on the skating. These guys and the pros we know and love don't have to know all this knowledge but they put all of his knowledge in praxis without realizing the delicate idiosyncrasies involved.

  • @Bravo-Too-Much
    @Bravo-Too-Much Před 2 lety +10

    The pivot cups are what typically squeaks loud. Put wax or some low viscosity oil in the cups and the squeaking will almost certainly stop. Knife lubricating oil or gun oil works well and you don’t have to take the hangers off like you would wax. Wax lasts longer though. Best option is wax when you set up and dab oil periodically.

    • @PhysifistEngineering
      @PhysifistEngineering Před rokem +2

      Prothane suspension grease. Literally designed for this very purpose.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr Před rokem

      gonna have to try this out on my stage X its on 2 year old conicals and squeaks like a birdnest. But i kind of like it like an old ship

    • @insanogeddon
      @insanogeddon Před 8 měsíci

      Just simplest cheapest most natural soap shavings work. Or graphite powder is amazeballs to remove squeak instantly but gets messy rubbing it all over your bushings and pivot cups. Tool oils can degrade them over time.

  • @32srt32
    @32srt32 Před 2 lety +139

    roger is the only one that really understands prof. schmitt. the prof. is talking about wheelbase and kelly is trying to talk about width of trucks for flip tricks. and chris is just lost! Dubs is silent.

    • @steev1290
      @steev1290 Před 2 lety +5

      Dude yeah look at Rodger at 7:40 , Kelly literally didn’t understand what prof was saying 😂

    • @TimHesse
      @TimHesse Před 2 lety

      Well crib is calling his board a fucking paddle board…

    • @jeffli480
      @jeffli480 Před 2 lety +9

      @@steev1290 It blows my mind how they know so little about the board they're riding, the one tool they're basing their entire income and life off of, and yet they're getting it done haha. I would trade all my technical board knowledge to be able to fakie tre like Kelly any day...

    • @Lionel_tig3r
      @Lionel_tig3r Před 2 lety +12

      @@steev1290 to be fair tho I get what kelly was saying he was saying in a hypothetical sense what flips best. May or may not be an answer. Like in theory wouldn’t a smaller board flip better? I think he was jus askin in theory but worded it dif

    • @steev1290
      @steev1290 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Lionel_tig3r yeah I get it. The only thing is that it felt like professor wasn’t understood through the ep and rarely was able to elaborate on his research

  • @CommanderMinecraft69
    @CommanderMinecraft69 Před 2 lety +19

    Need more legends on here before more of them die. Could you imagine how crazy a nine club with Jake Phelps would have been

  • @justinanderson3180
    @justinanderson3180 Před 2 lety +94

    Jeron must be 1 of the 10 people that still ride royal's on this earth

    • @TheWavetwister
      @TheWavetwister Před 2 lety +32

      The only people that ride royals get them for free.

    • @justinanderson3180
      @justinanderson3180 Před 2 lety +10

      @@TheWavetwister half the time the riders won't skate royals haha koston always had ad's riding other brands while on them.

    • @user-oz5xb9ed3w
      @user-oz5xb9ed3w Před 2 lety +1

      i’m another

    • @Americansikkunt
      @Americansikkunt Před 2 lety

      I grew up hearing “royals are great”
      Is that true, or are they crap?

    • @jesusdelvalle8502
      @jesusdelvalle8502 Před 2 lety +1

      LMFAO..true royals or orion trucks!

  • @nicoluminous
    @nicoluminous Před 2 lety +1

    Love these dudes

  • @Skateboardin1278
    @Skateboardin1278 Před 2 lety +21

    I’ve been skating for 14 years and I‘ve never seen anyone get substantially better because they „fine tuned“ their setup. I’ve seen a lot more people who started thinking too much about their setup to the point where it affected their skating negatively.

    • @lamBETTERthanY0U
      @lamBETTERthanY0U Před 2 lety +4

      Exactly. This dude could barely skate on his best day it’s all just a gimmick. He’s wearing a lab coat ffs

    • @jph2k23
      @jph2k23 Před 2 lety +7

      I would say just sticking with a consistent set up will help your board feel

    • @dutchmaster2135
      @dutchmaster2135 Před 2 lety +3

      ishod is really particular about his setup

    • @foreroa
      @foreroa Před 2 lety +4

      I agree that anyone can get used to any setup but certain set ups can make a specific trick substantially easier. For example I used to ghost pop a lot on nollie tricks...not understanding that I was using 55 mm tall trucks with steep nose. Switched to low trucks and all of a sudden ghost pop gone. Set ups really can make a difference.

    • @aaronkirchdorfer7779
      @aaronkirchdorfer7779 Před 2 lety

      @@foreroa what the hell is a ghost pop?

  • @bsiccs
    @bsiccs Před 2 lety +2

    I was throwing washers under my trucks to make them turn with a lower “caster” angle for snappier turns with less lean. Sorta like a longboard type thing, but it would probably balance out on a longer wheelbase? I like snappy front turn and shallow rear turn- it just works for my weight and balance I guess.

  • @AlexNiedt
    @AlexNiedt Před 2 lety +4

    Love this stuff! About to try the washer flip with my Bones bushings.

  • @carlosreira2189
    @carlosreira2189 Před rokem +4

    Old fogies will remember the Tracker Sixtrack. Most vert skaters used it, and practically the whole Bones Brigade. But they didn't turn. Looking at them in pictures (don't have mine anymore), they were unusual in that the pivot bushing was bent on an angle, making the hangar effectively raked (?) All trucks that came later pretty much followed after Independent--Thunder, Venture, Ace, Tensor, the list is pretty long.
    Anyone remember the Variflex Connection truck? It was the first reverse kingpin truck. Very cool. And they worked really well.

  • @sharkoboyo
    @sharkoboyo Před 2 lety

    Best episode so far 👌

  • @sa-lt8ks
    @sa-lt8ks Před rokem +3

    The science of skating. Man everything that made me good was me being poor. The smaller trucks on a bigger board. I had ventures now I ride indies. I made a stop at thunders and everything he says is true. I need to make a stop at the skate professors spot and I can defiantly say I don't have grinds on rails like I did when I was younger. Now I'm a transition goblin. But this makes hella sense.

  • @MrBluntNose
    @MrBluntNose Před 2 lety

    With regards to squeaky trucks, sometimes it's the bushings, but sometimes it's also the pivot cup.
    I just put a couple drops of oil on each pivot cup while the board is upside down and squeeze the trucks side to side to work it in.
    Squeak gone within seconds.

  • @stevennorthcut9860
    @stevennorthcut9860 Před 2 lety +2

    Man you 9 club dude's are putting some real quality skateboarding scientific interviews. This is a NBD interview. Thankyou fellas. Nice 2 know facts. Not just some random dude at a skate shop telling you some complete bullshit.

  • @drbosommd
    @drbosommd Před 2 lety +1

    I love this guy.

  • @justjuIius
    @justjuIius Před 2 lety

    I started with tensor trucks especially the magnesiums because i watched alot of daewon song but still use them because im used to them but never considered how they felt they're just light.

  • @leftysr2stupid354
    @leftysr2stupid354 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I need to get some new bushings..

  • @tradingpoker1324
    @tradingpoker1324 Před měsícem

    Very interesting. I wish I had known all these variations back when I was skating daily.

  • @chriswalker5385
    @chriswalker5385 Před rokem

    Love this!

  • @onymousofmoonrift3486
    @onymousofmoonrift3486 Před 2 lety

    this dude is a legend, still have my original yard stick board..

  • @ivangutierrez7019
    @ivangutierrez7019 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I like the weight and the wheel base length of a venture 5.6. The weight and the far wheel base it has maes for the perfect pop and float time in the air when I’m doing Ollie’s onto higher rails (especially for board slides).
    But I switched to thunders 148s because I like the lowness when doing grinds but not so much for popping. So I fixed the pop of my thunder by using a deck with a steeper tail. But I was having trouble with how light thunders are and it was popping way to quickly. So I switched to a 14.38 wheel base and it’s feeling pretty dang solid now👍🏼

    • @svnbit8408
      @svnbit8408 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Did you have too much flat before the kick? It's been so long since I skated that I want to try thunders or indys, (embracing the suck anyways why not and it's been that long I used to ride 5.0s and 7.75 decks, going for 8.25 at least and remember the 5.2 ventures I was pinching fs crooks far easier) but I've found that most decks are suited to indys that they'll mostly work out and finding a deck that won't be dead pop on thunders is harder to find. Even just searching I think a lot of pros that ride thunders they're riding special designs and their retail decks are more middle ground. Frustrating.. did you find that's a consistent wheelbase that gives the deck a consistent kick characteristic that you're comfortable buying sight unseen?
      I was thinking of just trying all of the new tech, and a lighter deck, titanium thunder truck and wheels would be too light, that I'd have to find a heavy wheel to have the mass to flip or flick the deck, but that's just an assumption, I was waiting for titanium's to return and got lost again and forgot about skating. Don't get me wrong when I do get there I'm gonna fall in love again and my wife will be missing me a lot more lol.
      On the flip, I was stoked on the inverted Indy mids, but they're coincidentally the heaviest truck that I was waiting for the hollow pros to get some weight off, but in thinking for example pretty much any Santa Cruz vx or powerply deck and im good with indys due to distribution, aside from maybe tom astas decks that might come retail setup for thunders since hes the exception. I think manufacturing has gotten a lot better where single press or press referenced wood isn't the gauntlet of soggy pop quitters that used to plague me when choosing one.
      I'm definitely excited to try all the gimmicks out of the gate. stuff like vx impact sound like I can remove one variable that I'm going to need more than ever, pop.

  • @STEEL4122
    @STEEL4122 Před rokem +1

    This guy is a genius, I could listen to him talk all day about skateboards

  • @Tammedwillower
    @Tammedwillower Před 2 lety

    This guy is….✨SPECTACULAR ✨

  • @DustinDollinsShinBone
    @DustinDollinsShinBone Před 7 měsíci

    I found a set of vintage Tracker Darts and fixed them up recently. They are the best trucks ever.

  • @cristhofervaleriano5237
    @cristhofervaleriano5237 Před 2 lety +1

    I have powell peralta biss size 8.25 and dgk 8.38
    What trucks should I buy if I skate street and bowl?

  • @patswayze7359
    @patswayze7359 Před 2 lety +1

    Ya Ben would Be a good one.. love his chanel.. swayze skates

  • @chrhadden
    @chrhadden Před měsícem

    i ride indys and bones bushings (hard). i had the problem of my board going left and right and sticking that way. i put my bottom washer back on my trucks like they said to. problem solved. thanks guys!

  • @colinfruend5537
    @colinfruend5537 Před 2 lety

    When the Professor speaks... you LISTEN. So much knowledge in that man's head.

  • @nathanielrodriguez3205
    @nathanielrodriguez3205 Před 2 lety +5

    I can’t wait for them to play hahaha

  • @JosephACampbellJr
    @JosephACampbellJr Před 2 lety +3

    After Almost 17 years,you can still learn something every day 🙏🏽❤️

  • @robweissman5952
    @robweissman5952 Před 2 lety +24

    Ben Degros should get an episode here.

  • @denistalbot1829
    @denistalbot1829 Před 2 lety

    Thanks really interressing

  • @afewthebrand
    @afewthebrand Před rokem

    I want to ride a symmetrical board!
    One of my favorite skate subjects is personal preferences on boards. How'd the washer change go?

  • @clifford_2zero7
    @clifford_2zero7 Před 21 hodinou

    How about a wheel tech guy? Im geekin out on wheel shapes and im not so positive its a HUGE deal. On my 8.5 i have bones v6 wide cuts so the board doesnt hang over as much on grinds but obviously a .5cm wider width (2.5mm on each side) provides more grip and less slip. But not just that but the shape beyond the contact patch. The contact patch seems more common sense to me but whadddaikno🤷‍♂️😅😅😅
    What is truly best for grinds?coping?powerslides/blunts?flips? Etc.
    I think it would be awesome to have tech episodes where we talk about the differences in gear. Have an expert on. Ask pros about their experiences we can all take something from it even anecdotal ya know

  • @abdlh987
    @abdlh987 Před 2 lety

    So far the best truck with a good stock bushings are destructo, they doesn't squeek even after 6 months of usage. But i guess if you're not a tight truck rider. I usually tighten the trucks nut till the king pin is just nice at the surface of the nut and doesn't protrude out.

    • @jesusdelvalle8502
      @jesusdelvalle8502 Před 2 lety +1

      LMFAO.destruco still around? Member tensor trucks...so WACK

  • @ofizzy
    @ofizzy Před 2 lety

    Paul is the best! Could listen to him forever.

  • @seanwilson2452
    @seanwilson2452 Před 10 měsíci +1

    We are all nerds for this shit and I love it.

  • @mr.channel6467
    @mr.channel6467 Před 2 lety

    I put white lithium grease on my bushings. Not directly on the bushings (although I did rub olive oil on them) I put The lithium grease on all metal surfaces that the bushings sat on. Turned out real great little messy at first but the trucks bend smooth without any squeaks.

  • @lukewilkinson2910
    @lukewilkinson2910 Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve skated my indy’s for nearly 2 years, and my bushings have had no issues. Idk if it’s because I have really loose trucks or maybe I just don’t skate hard enough hahahaha

  • @typerightseesight
    @typerightseesight Před 2 lety +4

    independent vert. thunder. street. venture. park. tensor. wood pallets.

  • @jonathanginofilippi
    @jonathanginofilippi Před rokem

    The fingers of flat is essential to me now, i only like maybe 2, many boards are 3. I once had a random setup and it ollied up hard for some reason, just pushed me up because of the angles and maybe a large nose? It was like it boosted me up! I know that setup is everything. I wedged myself into a half size smaller shoe, and now my 8.25 is like an 8. You: Try a steeper board, you might like it.

  • @thehermanli
    @thehermanli Před 2 lety +2

    I want to see his reaction to Andy Anderson's setup!

  • @CoDnChill
    @CoDnChill Před rokem +2

    Meanwhile Daewon be like: what are those bushings you guys talking about? 😂

  • @expertbv
    @expertbv Před 2 lety

    super cush are bombbbb the clear ones

  • @rivera8545
    @rivera8545 Před rokem +1

    Most probable case for Bushings "blowing out" early is the result of adjusting the bolt of your truck to your comfort first; before riding the truck as manufactured and "breaking in" a couple easy riding sessions. Install trucks and ride, afterwards it's safe to adjust(loosen or tighten) to your riding comfort. Whats happening is the new bushings have a steady force set when manufactured. That force compresses the bushing and is sort of "cured" to that orginal force. Therefore, if the bushings don't get broken in gradually, they will be introduced to a drastic de/compression stress too soon which will effect the polymer tensile strength, cause premature hairline splinter fractures, and the fracture will increase after a couple of session. Another way(pre-setup), to avoid the stress shock, is to loosen the bolts all the way and leave decompressed for a couple days then adjust. In short, the bushings are made of polymers and have a tensile and glass transistion index which keep it/polymer linkeage stable and the material molded until the physical properties of the material are subjected to its stress max/min e.g. place the bushing in the freezer for a day and apply the force, they will crack. Add excessive heat near the melting point of the polymer and they will be like gummy bears.😁

    • @yes11889
      @yes11889 Před rokem +1

      But see that's not the always the case I skated my thunder 147 stock for 2 and half months never touched that bolt once cause I didn't feel like I needed to I don't weigh lot I don't skate big drops most stress I put on the bushings is I guess landing Ollie's or maybe landing awkwardly so how did my back bushing explode? I was thinking either low quality bushings or maybe it's me idek just kinds looking for an answer that's why watched this video I want to try that double washer thing but idk if I should just get bones bushings I just know those will change how my thunders feel which Iove I didn't even know my bushings was spilt until I looked at it

  • @stealthcamo712
    @stealthcamo712 Před rokem

    While listening.... I feel the same spirit of the conversation about firearms. SO, many things can change the shot pattern. --- Building my first board.

  • @G3T_R3KT_XM8
    @G3T_R3KT_XM8 Před rokem

    These are the best trucks hands down on the market! The Thunder Titanium lights i have the 147's
    also i own the Independent forged titanium 144's both are amazing
    trucks lol had to have them both! Btw my Thunder titanium lights 147's are
    customized with all custom titanium hardware from Japan! Here's what's on the truck?
    It has 1 top titanium bushing washer cup, and it has 1 bottom titanium bushing washer cup/2 Titanium hollow kingpin's/2
    Titanium kingpin nuts/Titanium 7/8ths Allen key hardware/4 small titanium nuts that screw on the 7/8ths
    hardware /4 titanium Axle nuts/Tekton Precision-Profiled XT Steel bearing Spacers/Bones
    hard bushings/Riptide pivot cups/Bones Swiss Ceramic bearing's/Powell Peralta Dragon Formula Green Dragon 52mm wheels.
    The titanium hollow kingpin was installed by my local skateshop if anybody
    interested in buying a titanium hollow kingpin
    that's actually hard to get! in matter of fact the only comapny i knew that
    made them were theeve came in a pack of 2 and they
    were expensive i used to buy mine
    on Amazon but they are discontinued now.
    the link is below they will be shipped from japan!
    stoke-shop.com/collections/all/products/stoke-titanium-kingpin

  • @wadeb5042
    @wadeb5042 Před 2 lety +1

    Squeaking usually comes more from the pivot cup than the bushings. If you put some wax shavings in the pivot cup, the squeak goes away.

  • @Sproutt
    @Sproutt Před 3 měsíci

    What do you giys feel about rucks trucks bushings i have the white stock bushings and they sound like i have a crack in the board.

  • @juanmibro4296
    @juanmibro4296 Před 2 lety

    So what board brands should I ride if ride Indys or Thunders?

  • @alpineflauge909
    @alpineflauge909 Před 2 lety

    awesome content, thank you

  • @chadbalkwill6025
    @chadbalkwill6025 Před 2 lety +5

    put small amount of wax or grease in the pivot cup to stop squeaks!

  • @JOConnor1992
    @JOConnor1992 Před 2 lety +2

    Ye need to get a Sammy Baca episode!!

  • @snakefinger
    @snakefinger Před 2 lety

    LoL “angle gauge” aka LEVEL ! 🤣🤣🤣 pass me the lead. The vertical lead.

    • @berniemackattack86
      @berniemackattack86 Před měsícem

      These dudes have been watching too much Theo von clips 😂

  • @mikehemens9359
    @mikehemens9359 Před rokem

    I just had venture 8.75 on a 15.75 wb. I ordered 8.5 ventures for a 15 inch wb just now. Switching from Ace/indy to venture was the best decision.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr Před rokem

      they simply just BLAST and powerslide like no other truck and its no debate just like how THUNDERS grind metal to metal unlike any other truck. BS airs and half cabs with ventures are just a breath of fresh air i never knew skating had waiting for me. So happy about the 6.1s from a 159 standard rider that cant ride/run the cylinder bushing/55mm stage XI.

  • @sk8-brd-bus124
    @sk8-brd-bus124 Před 2 lety +1

    We got you on the bushings. Just book our mobile skate shop for free to any LA County Public Skate Park. Prof. Schmitt is the man. A true skate scientist and encyclopedia of skate knowledge.

  • @darthsunny6430
    @darthsunny6430 Před 4 měsíci

    I also Skate Royal Trucks and like yourself i don't use a washer on the bottoms ...ever. I would strongly suggest using doh-boys bushings. havn't had an issue since

  • @typerightseesight
    @typerightseesight Před 2 lety +2

    This reminds me of lows and high's which they don't make anymore because the width got so big they quit making lows. but you can still get forged. baseplates. given a few millimeters smaller. not quite the same as it was but.

    • @fernandoreyes680
      @fernandoreyes680 Před 2 lety +1

      Venture still makes highs and lows

    • @tatplug
      @tatplug Před 2 lety

      Tensor still makes lows

    • @typerightseesight
      @typerightseesight Před 2 lety

      @@fernandoreyes680 they all do but im 6 foot tall now and they only carry the 8 inch lows. and most shops on the east coast dont carry lows at all. they dont make them in 8.5 inch trucks and my knees hurt if i skate anything skinnier.

    • @typerightseesight
      @typerightseesight Před 2 lety

      @@tatplug yeh, but only at shorter wheelbase.

  • @hygiverse
    @hygiverse Před rokem

    Only independent have kingpins that stay out of the way for smith grinds other than Allen wrench kingpins which strip. For that reason alone, I ride independent. And rubber riser shock pads reduce impact for drops. They need to start bonding rubber shock pads onto the trucks as standard practice…if even just a couple centimeters of padding

  • @MrPDTaylor
    @MrPDTaylor Před 2 lety +6

    Ben Degros on the show!

  • @sirhcortsac5082
    @sirhcortsac5082 Před rokem +1

    It’s interesting to see street skaters talk about split baseplate angles for the first time coming from downhill where splitting baseplate angles is just basic 101 theory.

  • @barryeverson9320
    @barryeverson9320 Před 7 měsíci

    Can you redesign the original thunder freestyle trucks ? :)

  • @brandonkPGT
    @brandonkPGT Před rokem

    That squeak is coming from the pivot knob on the hanger going into the base plate.
    ******TIP IF YOU HAVE NOISY TRUCKS******
    Scrape some wax shavings into a little pile. Take your hangers off and stuff a little bit of wax down into the black rubber piece in your baseplate. Re-install the hanger (it may be difficult at first to get the kingpin nut started, try putting the nut on without the washer for 20 min to seat the hanger / bushings), tighten your kingpin nut so its even with the kingpin threads.
    Try to only tighten your kingpin nut after putting the wax in the baseplate!!!!!! As you tighten the kingpin nut, it will push the wax out of the baseplate (you will see it, its not a big deal). Just make sure you tighten the trucks up to your liking, but DO NOT LOOSEN THEM once you get them to where you want them. I even rub wax in the kingpin threads to help prevent the nut from backing out.
    BOOM. No more noisy trucks.

  • @jj61051
    @jj61051 Před 2 lety

    This made me rethink every set of indys I ever had. I am going to try the washer trick.

    • @shitfer
      @shitfer Před 2 lety

      I'm trying to understand where Paul says to put the washer. On top of the bottom bushing? Will the nut eat into the top bushing with no washer?
      Andy Anderson mentions in a video that someone did this for him. He couldn't explain it either.
      This stuff is fascinating to me.

    • @jj61051
      @jj61051 Před 2 lety +2

      @@shitfer
      Base plate, washer that bones bushings come with then bushing then the truck hanger top bushing then the nut with no washer. It looks a little weird but works. I like the bones hard mainly because I am a big guy.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr Před rokem

      it helped when i tried adapting the cylinder bushing which never took for me. I just stick with the conical bushings and the mids bc theyre the old stage 9/X height. The trick does work though if you ride the 55mm highs and a cylinder bushing but dont generally like the stage XI. Removing the bottom and if you have the old bones top washer they give in their sets lying around going no washer helps if you liked the old indy feel...though the reps say the washers genuinely keep the truck functioning as "designed" w.e that even means AS i see it it was made with a "NO hang up yoke" for kids that dont want to learn the hard knocks of air dropping into a QP/bowl.

  • @Abby-zl7xr
    @Abby-zl7xr Před 3 měsíci

    I had these titanium trucks in like 2002 🤔 I can't remember what they were called for the lof of me, do any of you know? Anyways, I had the element featherlite deck and those titanium trucks man... Bro, it was soooooo light & it was perfect for popping huge gnarly ollie's. It had just the right weight ratio man! I think that the 56 wheels gave it the required weight just to be heavy enough but, also ultra light to pretty much do anything with that setup.

  • @SoilentGr33n
    @SoilentGr33n Před 2 lety +4

    I've been riding a Shawn Hale Birdhouse 8.5 with 149 indy's since September last year and I would in fact like my ollies to pop earlier. Gonna try a flatter board first then move on from there.

    • @thinkforyourself5672
      @thinkforyourself5672 Před 2 lety

      Same setup here bro lol. Dixon or Walker 8.5 Birdhouses with 149 Indys. Bottom stock indy washer, Top Bones hard Bushing with both washers on. And 54mm Spitfire Conical Full or Bones STF 54mm V6. I have to say I like the shape of the Conical fulls more than any other wheel. What size wheels are you riding? And stock bushings?

    • @thinkforyourself5672
      @thinkforyourself5672 Před 2 lety

      One more thing since it sounds like you like the same setup as me. Try a Welcome 8.5 Ryan Townley deck. His boards are all 8.5 and his personal shape. They're incredible and flatter than what you're riding now. I think you'll be super happy if flatter concave is what you're looking for.

    • @SoilentGr33n
      @SoilentGr33n Před 2 lety

      @@thinkforyourself5672 53 mm SMLs conicals 99a I think? I don't want to go smaller wheels because shit streets around here and man do I love carving indys, that's why I figured I'd look for a flatter board first with the same wheelbase. Aftermarket orange cylindrical indy bushings. I always pick a spare pack and there were rumors that stock indy bushings were cheaper than aftermarket ones? so I swapped them out and kept the stock ones are spares.
      Last setup I had was a Globe G1supercolor 8.1 complete with tensors. I was picking up skating again after fucking 17 years so I figured that would be fine and it was. Getting on top of 1.5 foot boxes no problem like my ollies came back in no time but you could tell this board was tuned. It's a 100$ complete sure, but it's got the right parts combo, it felt nice and the pop was snappy as fuck without too much force. Trucks exploded after 4 months so I loaded up with my current setup which is way heavier so I struggled for a while and I'd like to have some of that feeling back. fucking love skating an 8,5

    • @SoilentGr33n
      @SoilentGr33n Před 2 lety

      @@thinkforyourself5672 I'll check them out for sure thanks for the reply

    • @thinkforyourself5672
      @thinkforyourself5672 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SoilentGr33n, I actually really liked the few SML's I've skated. Same here bro. I quit skating for 16 years. Used to skate 8.0 decks which was big at the time. My friends skated 7.5 and 7.75. Now I skate 8.38, 8.5 and even 8.75s. Wheels I'm the same way. 53 or 54, nothing smaller. But definitely check out those Townley Welcome decks. They're by far my favorite shape of any deck I've skated. The concave is super mellow, the kicks are perfect for me and the shape of the board is slightly different than any other I've skated. They're awesome. Indy 149s, The Townley decks and 53 or 54mm Spitfires, Or the Hardline OJ's.

  • @Bb186fo
    @Bb186fo Před 2 lety +12

    Wait.. chris Robert's is a carpenter?! 5:51 never knew that!

  • @JosephACampbellJr
    @JosephACampbellJr Před 2 lety +8

    We need to discuss leaving boards in our vehicles and them getting weathered twice as fast because of the varying temperature change 🙏🏽🇺🇸

    • @user-oz5xb9ed3w
      @user-oz5xb9ed3w Před 2 lety +4

      what’s there to discuss? weather will warp your board, end of discussion

    • @matthewroberts6786
      @matthewroberts6786 Před 2 lety +2

      Never leave your board in the car.

    • @kkfarmedkk
      @kkfarmedkk Před 2 lety

      They have talked about this. Heck, you should store your board on the ground. Because if you rest it against the wall with ur nose or tail, it can actually mess it up.

    • @yes11889
      @yes11889 Před rokem

      ​@@kkfarmedkk oh really how does it affect it? I do this all time

  • @joshradelaide943
    @joshradelaide943 Před 2 lety

    My board is a hybrid between Kelly and Chris. It squeeks like crazy, and it's always blowing out bushes 🤣

    • @Fortuna_716
      @Fortuna_716 Před 2 lety

      The squeaking of from the hanger cup, put a little grease In there and it will stop

  • @aftertheburial420
    @aftertheburial420 Před 2 lety

    we need a lesson on how to get rid of squeaky bushings...chris cole said use some powdered graphite. im using thunders and the squeaking pretty hard. i love tight trucks. riding thunders with some indy hard bushings ...just put them on.

    • @kentma1
      @kentma1 Před 2 lety

      You can rub wax on the pivot bar (or whatever it’s called). Rubbing bar soap in it works, too.

    • @stevenewton6776
      @stevenewton6776 Před 2 lety

      Scrape some soap shavings in the pivot cup

    • @thebayharborbutcher9115
      @thebayharborbutcher9115 Před 2 lety

      Maybe loosen your trucks a little bit too tight is a no go

  • @garrieleepeck8753
    @garrieleepeck8753 Před 2 lety

    Only thing I miss is Cross bone wheels I loved them miss them to this day

  • @BenDover-zq6ey
    @BenDover-zq6ey Před 2 lety +1

    Ben degros the real skate knowledge goat. Get him on here

  • @djilly75
    @djilly75 Před 2 lety +2

    If your bushings are blowing out your tightening the truck before the new bushings are broke in. Ride it for awhile before tightening

    • @andresarregui3417
      @andresarregui3417 Před 2 lety

      been hearing this nonsense all my life. So you just ride with loose trucks until they get soft? hahahahaha!

  • @djsubliminalreeve
    @djsubliminalreeve Před 2 lety

    it's so true how this all works lol I hate skating my friends boards as they all mostly rode ventures and spitfire wheels also the bearings can throw me off. I order ricta wheels, transit trucks, reds and a dgk deck. a lot of people won't know what transit trucks are but for me they were solid as sh8t and locked in my grinds better.

    • @heroicsquirrel3195
      @heroicsquirrel3195 Před 2 lety

      Are transits the ones that came with reaction completes in the uk years ago, i swear i used a set as a teen?

    • @versnellingspookie
      @versnellingspookie Před 2 lety

      I cant even find that brand, but in another video Andy Anderson says why he rides mini-logo trucks; because they're tuned as a 'beginner' truck, very loose and good for quick turns. Also, they're shaped to lock in to grinds. Maybe thats why those transit trucks worked so well for you?

  • @zz1matt
    @zz1matt Před 8 měsíci

    If your board squeaks (12:43), take your hanger off your baseplate, and wax the "nipple" of the hanger that sits in the pivot cup of the baseplate. No more squeaks.

  • @DemzWonMusic
    @DemzWonMusic Před 2 lety +1

    These are the discussions that help evolve skateboarding

  • @stevebanning902
    @stevebanning902 Před 2 lety

    AVE alien shapes, 55 mm wheels and Krux 3's... best setup ever

  • @owendavey2521
    @owendavey2521 Před 2 lety

    Ya’ll should talk to Kevin Reimer from powell peralta, absolute DH legend and urethane guru!