Why Captain Rex Was Able to Kill his Clone Brothers during Order 66
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- When Order 66 Occurs why does Captain Rex side with Ashoka Tano, why is he able to blast his own brothers so easily?
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It was him or them. Besides, the fact he was crying pretty much confirmed that this wasn’t easy for him.
So i guess that means fox did nothing wrong shooting fives.
@A Ghost i agree. Did it seem that i don't like fox? He's my 2 favourite clone. I myself explained why he did nothing wrong on a subreddit foxdidnothingwrong i found on yt.
@A Ghost that's basically the Corusant guard their the cops but with the very same budget as the military
cool story still a traitor
@A Ghost
Fox the Trigger happy cop no one likes and Rex the good cop that does what's morally right
Captain Rex: experience outranks everything
Asokah: but your 10
Rex: uuuuhhhhhh…
10 and experienced
Yeah, and Ahoska was 4 years older than him when the Clone Wars started.
rex: 10 yrs of training and a month of actual combat. how many yrs of training u got kid?
@@ehleeinn9743 probably 14 since the Jedi were indoctrinated into the order as infants.
@@hb09yt6 rex was 10yrs 1month into the war when he had this convo with ahsoka. mostly soldiership. jedi, not so much. as u can see when they were killed at genosis. i doubt ahsoka got any actual trainin aside from her natural spunk. plus, zero actual war experience.
Kinda off topic, but I really love the bromance this channel has with Geetsly’s
It's nice to see two different CZcamsrs who talk about the same theoretical universe with out then trying to belittle each others channels
Geetsly’s the man!!
@@GenerationTech I love you Allen
whos geetsly there is only Generation Geet
Same
He had self-awareness as a mind-controlled child slave soldier. He was able to do what big boss was never able to do. Save his friend.
Big Boss? Metal Gear right?
@@marrqi7wini54 The very same.
We can most likely give Anakin and Obi Wan for that. Not to mention Ahsoka and some of his more close clone brothers. They molded much of who he became. But it probably was hard for Rex to have shot his brothers in the hallway to stop them from getting into the medbay.
Now all I can imagine is a rapidly aged Rex saying “war, war has changed.”
@@Slender_Man_186 just imagine the rebels version of him
This is a powerful scene if you appreciate his reaction to order 66
Those 2-3 seconds after the order.
It looks like he tried as absolutely hard as he could to resist the chip. But ultimately obeying the order.
It felt similar to Mass Effect when Saren and TIM tried to resist Indoctrination. You can see the fight
@@aauwhatitdo1582 the main difference being that they both only succeed at the end through suicide, where Rex survives through compassion
@@ZacksRockingLifestyle True. I'm more or less making the comparison because of the scene quality. It is really hard the show a fight for control over your own free will, but both stories successfully show it.
@@aauwhatitdo1582 O gosh!! A great observation
It is a chip that is literally designed to control an individual's literal brain... The fact that he was able to resist it even in the slightest really is incredible.
As a reminder: a chip controlling your mind create a scenario within you where doing something is just something that you would do normally. Not like breathing, but like pushing a child out of the way of a car or something else along those lines wherein asking "why would you do that" is logically, emotionally, morally, and ethically wrong; not relating to disagreement, but in relation to "why wouldn't I?"
- "The child would have died"
- "The man was about to kill her"
- "The Jedi betrayed us all"
Having the capability to add a level of conflict with this type of mindset, though normal for many people given a certain situation, would require a mind-controlling device to take a more drastic approach. Hypothetically speaking, the majority of clone officers, commanders, and otherwise soldiers didn't have this reaction because there was nothing present within them for such a reaction to occur. Rex has had to make over a dozen morally-conflicting decisions over his career; however, so has just about every other clone in the GAR. War is hell. That's all there is to it... but Rex and Ahsoka had something else... something that allowed for such conflicts to arrise, which made the chip itself resort to more brute force.
This is such an oddity because of 1. the personality of Rex 2. the relationship between him and Ahsoka, and 3. the fact that, out of all of the possible realities that can exist in the entire universe, it just so happened to occur with these two people in particular.
Personally, if it were any other Jedi, I don't believe Rex would have hesitated. The fact that the given order was made to affect Ahsoka created a unique, 1 in 1 million chance, scenario wherein such a hesitaton was able to occur. The combonation of such seemingly random individual factors allowed for an emotional divide to be present within Rex, which prevented the chip from just acting as it normally does (see my comparison above).
This type of hesitation cannot be anything other than such a practically impossible scenario, due to the fact that- were this type of scenario not practically impossible- the Caminoians would have developed a safe guard for this type of behavior without having the organic device resort to such a high level of brute force to override the emotional conflict within Rex.
And yes, to add clarification, I am, in fact, arguing that Rex's resistance was not a willing decision. It was a near-impossible occurance wherein such a high level of emotion had the ability to resist such an instinctual decision to the point wherein the chip itself was forced to physically override those instinctual emotions. Think mother-son bonds and the emotional connection between the two. Such a connection is instinctual by nature. If you installed a chip into the fetus of a woman and enabled it to force her to kill her kids in such an unwilling way (mental conditions not present, that type of thing IE "okay so just go kill them lol"), I can guarantee that this same type of scenario would occur, less the device be redesigned to accommodate for such emotional attachments.
And this is why this scenario was seemingly impossible. The Kaminoians had designed their soldiers to feel this type of connection between their brothers but not towards their superior officers. They were designed to treat their officers as just that: officers whose orders they had to obey and whose levels of respect went barely past that of a professional relationship. Rex's uniqueness (as a clone, as a commander, and as an individual) combined with the *chance* that he had to execute Ahsoka Tano AND the fact that such a seemingly impossible emotional bond had been developed between the two of them is what caused this type of reaction, and is what is lacking in just about every other instance of the execution of Order 66.
And as a final note, the clones who disobeyed order 66, as of current knowledge, did so *after* attempting to execute it. Rex is special because his level of conflict arose upon being *given* the order.
Rex is the GOAT of all clones, can’t wait to see him in Bad Batch
HYPE!!
Nah fives was the goat 🐐
@@TheLastledbender Rex is King Clone.
@@TheLastledbender both, both are awesome
You’re both wrong. 99 is the GOAT 🐐
Having the show end with Rex and Ahsoka was such a good idea because of this. Both have developed a lot, and you can pinpoint the exact moments their outlook on things changed. Being able to resist order 66 for even a moment was the final hurdle for him, after being faced with increasingly difficult decisions over the years.
I can actually see a future with them together. It most certainly wouldn't happen immediately.
A few year's down the line I can see them together.
@@nicklopez3133 ???? In rebels rex is old as fuck and probably about to die. In madalorian Ahsoka is probably 40 and rex is dead asf
My comment above was my initial thought's after I had seen the series finale of Clone War's.
I had heard of Rebel's but haven't watched it. I've only recently learned of Ahsoka's & Rex's role's in that show.
I don't have Disney+ so I haven't seen The Madalorian but I did hear that Ahsoka made an appearance.
Imagine how intense it would have been with out rebels.
@@nicklopez3133 I actually thought so too, and I haven't seen Rebels either. I don't think there's anything wrong with Rex aging--his body is just different because he's a clone.
I thought a lot about whether he and ahsoka could end up together (even for a little while, bc Rex will die soon) and I think the only problem is that Rex doesn't have an identity besides being a good soldier, whereas Ahsoka has a range of life skills and better understanding of herself as a person and what she wants due to being expelled from the Jedi order.
Unless Rex underwent a similar type of exile/character development, I think he might just substitute Ahsoka for the Republic if they were ever in any relationship (he still thinks of her as "commander" even during season seven). But that's just my thoughts.
One of the most twisted parts of Order 66 is clones with Ahsoka’s face painted in their helmets hunting and shooting at her.
Last time I was this early, Darth Plagueis was getting ready for bed
your old
@@Boxing-simplifed-81I89 Have you heard the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise?
@@awhahoo i have
That... was actually good
@@awhahoo nah tell me
Rex was definitely not a "by the book" clone. He was very creative and tenacious. He was very independent and was able to think for himself. That didn't stop him from being a loyal clone. Rex had strong morals and a even stronger resolve. With all of this he still would follow orders all the way. Umbara thought Rex that good soldiers don't blindly follow orders, that you can't follow orders if you know they are wrong no matter who gave it. Thanks to 5s this knowledge was given to him. Rex was able to adapt and this allowed him to understand the true weight of the situation during order 66.
I think it's just more of him knowing how utterly beyond saving his brothers are, having succumbed to the biochip himself
I think it’s more of a “putting them out of their misery”.
The day the writers decide to kill of Rex will be known as the night of a billion tears
He means to much to the fandom
Well he did live on in a new hope so he was still kicking given his older age. Also its crazy to think out of the thousands maybe millions of clones this one clone outlasted them all
@@TheIncredible_Panda2214 he was also likely one of the rebel troopers on Endor’s Moon during the attack on the second Death Star. My hope is that he passes peacefully in his sleep of old age at least a year or two after RotJ.
@@TheIncredible_Panda2214 not all of them clone medic kiks lasted to the first order and resistance war after being frozen in a staisis pod
@@Slender_Man_186 Fioni did confirm that is Rex on Endor a few years ago if I remember correctly.
@@stornkin No, he just fueled speculation as a theory, it's not confirmed. However it might as well be considering how similar their appearances are and how much more important Rex is over a random Santa Claus cameo.
I wonder why he didn’t bring up Umbara to the 501st as reasoning that not all orders can be blindly followed
It wouldn't have made a difference. Even Rex himself wasn't able to disobey order 66 until his chip was removed.
@@Elbuarto it could have also backfire since they and the 212th had a mini order 66 where they went agaisnt krell. Just replace what happened in Umbara with Ashoka and the clones wouldn't have doubted to shoot her once
Rex is not just one of my favorite clones but one of my favorite starwars characters of all time.
Rex knows what is good for his friends. The opposite of death.
Laughs in evil order
I have a feeling Rex knew all along that his men wouldn’t go through with Jesse and Fives’ execution. It seems uncharacteristic of him to just stand by and watch his brothers get killed. He knew his men well enough to know they wouldn’t pull the trigger.
Captain Rex's resisting the order felt like Mass Effect when Saren and The Illusive Man were fighting Indoctrination prior to shooting themselves.
I can’t believe I got here so quickly and Alan, thank you for bringing amazing content to CZcams. It’s now harder and harder to find good content but you go above and beyond by bringing amazing videos to this platform and I am glad to say that I have watched this channel for 3-4 years.
Seeing that tear run down Rex’s face near the end really pumps me full of the feels
This is such a satisfying answer. Thank you, Generation Tech! But this does remind me of one thing. Darth Sidious always issued Order 66 to the clone commanders and captains. So how did the regular clone troopers know that it is the time to execute Order 66 as well?
I presume official orders were being sent through the regular clone chain of command while Sideous was giving personal instructions. In TCW's finale, you can see two clones getting radio instructions after Rex has received the order, but he clearly isn't calling them. So a radio message was being passed among the lower ranks at the same time. It shouldn't be that hard for the chief communications officer to send out a trigger phrase message to everyone in their unit.
When clone commanders would receive the transmission, they would transmit it thru their helmets to their squad
In rots the 2 clones behind Yoda both got the order
this makes me wonder what would’ve happened if Anakin came back before things got really out of hand. i think he would have been really aggressive towards pong krell and would have actually fought him with the clones when they found out about the betrayal.
Love the mouse cursor at 8:01
I wonder what would’ve happened if the 332nd sided with Ahsoka instead of the Empire.
That would make a dope story
If the inhibitor chips weren't a thing as of retcon by Filoni. Every single clone would have not followed. Simple.
@@the_dudeabides I see your point, but I was thinking because she was ex-Jedi by the time order 66 was issued maybe they’d would refuse the order on the technicality Rex presented.
@@ZackAttack005 Nope, Filoni showed that Clones never had a choice unless A they never heard the order and B had surgery.
This is why Filoni making a retcon of CW timeline and the events makes it all a blur. 150 GAR orders were EU, it explained why Clones followed the orders. They had fail safes trained in them, not programed with a chip. To keep the Jedi unsuspicious of Sidious' plan he included Order 65, to basically hold the Chancellor of Sedition.
I'd also like to add that Order 66 was ingrained with Jedi and lightsabers in Filioni's chip. So when Ashoka was no longer a Jedi and Clones still didn't see a difference.... It makes you wonder how the hell he would explain Order 66 chipped clones seeing Darth Vader wielding a lightsaber with a issuance of order already zombifying their brain.
@@the_dudeabides actually Commander Gray has proven that the chip can be overcame through enough willpower
The separatists recognized Rex as a threat of such magnitude, they sent an assassination squad of BX commandos to assassinate him. That’s a compliment on the level of importance he had to the Republic
Lol. They didn't send them to eliminate rex. They sent them to kill the clones that were patroling (rex and the others) so they couldn't find grievous. And rex was a priority beacouse he was a captain not beacouse he's rex.
@@strukacz5782 But I think that will change and the canon version will have the Separatists trying to kill Captain Rex because he might be the Alpha-Clone.
@@charlesray9674 that makes no sense. Rex is not a jedi for them to even care. And he can't be an alpha arc. You should first learn what that is
@@strukacz5782 Ever since Solo shot "second", I want Disney changed the narrative. 😉
@@charlesray9674 why would they? Lucas made the greedo change. And the episode clearly stated everything. Besides rex can't be an alpha arc
He had his blasters set to stun, he never tried killing anyone 😭
And the one moment when he did not have his blasters on stun was probably just pure instinct and adrenalin. He knew his friends life was in danger and he immediately chose to act in the moment.
Not all the time, after waking up from the surgery you can see the blasters are firig real laser bolts
@@riccardobalbo234 You must have been watching the original version. In the updated one, he's shooting blue smoke rings just to tell the viewers that there is a new hope. 😎
@@charlesray9674 8:25
@@riccardobalbo234 In the "New Hope" version of TCW, the re-edited those scenes so he stuns everyone. 😉
The way you identify implicit features of the plot is truly amazing.
I think some 501st clones still wearing the Ahsoka helmets made the CW Order 66 much more deep and tragic
Last time I was this early, Naboo was still being invaded by the trade federation
oh me too but i was there
last time I was this early Coleman Trebor was still alive
@@biberflub i dont rember who that is
@@Ethan_Whitlock he was the most powerful jedi ever with the biggest balls
How interesting would it be if there was enough time in Rebels for Rex to meet up with Colonel Yularen?
Rebels was supposed to have Thrawn contact Cody (who's Imperial) when he hears about clones helping Rebels. So we could've had Cody and Rex meet again on opposite sides if they hadn't cut it.
Wasn’t Yularen already dead?
@@Vanishingink4 Nope, Yularen was on the Death star in A New hope, and he died at the Battle of Yavin.
Can’t wait to see Rex in Bad Batch!
Maybe we can finally see how he got Gregor and Wolfe to join him
@@neofulcrum5013 And also quite possible the issues between him and Cody too!
Last time I was this early, Anakin and Ahsoka were still having fun counting their kills.
rip jessie😭
A true soldier.
The only person in the world who says Ahsoka's last name like that. 😱🥺
**GASP** MEGAMIND!!
T'No. Apparently Ahsoka is a Vulcan
7:15 That look and then the shot of the trembling hand on the helmet is just fucking great.
Only discovered this channel a few days ago and i love it. Happily subscribed.
That was a great analysis, good vid my man!
I think we all would love to see him being a badass in a live action movie!
There should be a memorial to Rex and the clone army somewhere in Coruscant. That would be cool to see
8:00 Hey Allan, you kinda messed up there with the recording. Bet you thought we dont notice :P
I noticed too!
I would imagine Rex felt extremely conflicted.
Major props to Dee Bradley Baker for making each clone unique. That's a big achievement for an army of essentially the same person.
Enjoyed this video!!! 🙏🏽🙌💪
I think in addition to all you said, Rex was able to use the logical loophole in Order 66 to “Kill the Jedi”. As Ahsoka was no longer a Jedi at this time, it allows a more free minded individual some leeway in how to interpret the order in this situation.
Nope, Jesse didn't accepted that loophole so did all the clones, Rex also tried to kill Ashoka when he was under complete control of the chip. Rex was able to resist it for 1 sec due to his independent personality and prior knowledge about the chip thanks to Fives.
Asoka tano, the only alien to be show leniency by humanity first
I was just starting to think about how Rex truly deserved better. I mean he probably couldn't really bear losing neither Ahsoka nor his clone brothers even if it meant for him to make a very hard choice between them. But for what I have to say about Rex's ordeal during Order 66, is that he knew how hard it would be for him to convince his soon-to-be fallen clone brothers about how they should follow orders even without the inhibitor chips, which sadly doesn't workout until it was too late.
Rex was a former alpha arc meaning that he was former special operations. Special operations soldiers have a bond with soldiers like them not rank and file bois. That’s why he was able to choose. Because he was different. Bred different- taught different.
@@DJFabiconcojones Well, that's pretty impressive. It's no wonder why he was more different than many of the other clones from the 501st/332rd battalion. Let alone how each and every one of them are different from each other.
@@geviesanta3631 5’s became a special operations soldier. He was part of domino squad a group of failed prospects. In other words 5’s was not a reg either . He had the most autonomy for a reg more so than Rex which caused Rex to open his eyes. Echo was unorthodox too . He may have recited orders in the beginning, but it was only for the well being of his brothers. As soon as echo became an arc then a bad batcher he probably became equally as independent as hunter
@@DJFabiconcojones That may well be it for Echo, but I'm still hoping to see more of him for the upcoming Bad Batch TV series to see how more capable he truly becomes once the series begins.
@@geviesanta3631 echo is part of the bad batch
Rex really messed up with the clones after killing his own brothers in order to protect a Jedi. Don't forget how many clones had a really tense relationship with the Jedi during the War according to Karen Traviss' 501 books
But she’s not- and to be fair Ashoka was never a religious zealot like the other Jedi where . She’s a pure force user. What the Jedi should have been instead of being blinded by arrogance..
@@DJFabiconcojones That and the fact that the 501st was one of the best-treated legions in the GAR. Anakin and Asoka took care of those boys like family!
@@mrbyzantine0528 exactly. which is why the 501st is one of my favorite infantry clone units.
I saw the final episode of TCW today and it literally had me in tears. And even though I kinda knew what's gonna happen, I felt so bad for Rex and Ahsoka, actually all of the Clones who had to betray their friends because they got brainwashed.
A bit off topic, what do you think would've happened if not Ahsoka had faced Maul on Mandalore, and instead it really would've been Obi-Wan, and more importantly, Anakin. If we get really wild and say Maul could've killed Anakin, you think Palpatine would've been stopped in time?
He'd been dead for just over a year at this point, but Fives still managed to save Rex and Ahsoka Tano.
ALLEN (of Generation Tech whose name is Allen) NO I SEE THE MOUSE CURSOR 9:30
It makes multiple appearances.
8:01 of what is the mouse cursor doing there?
I've been sayin this for years but Rex really is the real MAIN character of the series.
I was always wondering about that thanks
Rex shows us that he is willing to kill his own brothers to protect his friends.
Of course he probably forgot to switch his blaster to stun, at the moment.
"No other Clone is more visible than Rex. Yet we never see him falter. He's an excellent commander, he's an excellent soldier, and he's an excellent friend."
😫 And he's an excellent father!!
Rex, the lone individual against the collective.
I frickin love Captain Rex! I especially love old man retired Rex. As a collector of 3.75" action figures I'm pissed that Hasbro hasn't given us an updated and definitive figure if Rex. The most recent release of Rex (2021) was a straight repack from a previous year and he's got a super small unremoveable helmet and less articulation than his most recent clone arc trooper counterparts. In short the figure is horrible. Sorry for nerding out; I love the channel and thank you for the awesome content!
This is a great topic!!!!!
Keep up the great vids Gen tech :3
Now I’m curious what Wolf’s story will be. Maybe he was like how he is in Rebels from the guilt of executing Plo Koon
plo koon was shot down from the sky, and defenitly not from wolf.
I don't think it was easy for him, because you can see the pain in his eyes after he did it. However, he did it to save both him and Ahsoka.
Rex, a battle-hardened soldier that can make the toughest decisions, was crying during those moments…
9:55 Damn that second cursor on my screen scared me!
Tiny mouse droid I never saw @8:03
He fought his brothers to save his sister.
That’s a great way to look at it
@CZcams bans me Frfr they didn't but ok
I love this video my favorite ever character in Star Wars clone wars my favorite TV show is Captain Rex
Rex Is the type of guy that could smell a conspiracy 5 feet of an 8 year olds lemonade stand 🤔🤔
4:12 it's not rex fighting his "conditioning" it's rex being a faulty clone as they are literally genetically altered.
I’m thankful for his course of action, although it’s disappointing the droids died in complete agony
cool vid Alan and i think its the hardest choice Rex has ever had to make Ashoka or his brothers not an easy choice
He did get plenty of practice on Umbara. At least he wasn’t enjoying himself like Finn.
Cursor strikes again! On a serious note great video
"No, I'll do it... Stay back!!!" Has a lot more meanings to it now provide by the descriptions you gave
Rex was thinking “Why did Ashoka not take my guns away?”
Finally someone does this
Through The Power of Friendship
Captain Rex is NOT an arc trooper. In Clone Wars season six, episode one, when Rex, Fives, and Anakin were scouting out a droid base to find Tup, Fives comes up with an idea on how not to engage the battalion of droids, and still get to Tup. Rex then remarks, "That's why he's the ARC trooper." Yes, technically he was trained in ARC trooper tactics. however he is not a full fledged ARC trooper.
Meanwhile...
Echo: so anyway I started blasting
Much agreed 👍
Captain Rex is a truly heroic character
Rex is like Plo Koon in many ways
A very good assessment of the complex and nuanced elements factoring into Rex’s psychology. I see a lot of people questioning his choice to “murder” his brothers over letting them murder Ahsoka. “Aren’t their lives combined worth more than hers?” Perhaps. But what kind of life is that of a puppet? And what kind of moral trauma would they carry *if* they were ever freed? I’m not saying that his decision was cleanly the “right” one: however, I don’t believe anyone can claim they would have made the most morally upright decision had they been in the exact same set of circumstances. I mean, theoretically speaking he *could* have reset his DC-17’s to stun in the moments between groggily waking from brain surgery and firing in defense of Ahsoka. But how many people-including trained elite service members-can claim they would have had that thought process while waking from surgery? 🤔
I like how he says Ahsoka tanO
With how Ahsoka didn't want to harm the Clones, that's similar to how Etain was in the Republic Commando series. She died protecting Clones from Jedi trying to escape Order 66.
Ummm, I could swear Rex shot at Tano, and she knocked him out and took out the chip. If she would have got Jesse too, the clones would have let her go
His hands were shaking though and he tried to resist at first.
yes
Did everyone forget he got promoted to commander Rex
So I re-watched this and I came to wonder.... with more notice, could the Jedi used the force "mind trick" to prevent the clones from executing Order 66 and aid them to resist the chip? Thus, giving enough time to have the chip removed such as Rex had done. We know due to massive numbers of clones the Jedi couldn't control hundreds, but what about a handful to even give a Jedi time to escape execution at the hands of the clone army?
Finally, Gen Tech has uploaded once more. Truly a blessing.
Rex did grow on me a lot together with ahsoka
No two Clones are EVER the same ! Not the EXACT same , that is.
I just realized that they had a medic on the firing squad. That's so messed up on so many levels
I love you Allen
What was going through Rex's head on Endor?
"This is some bullshit. I'm an actual soldier with command experience. Who was it that put a damn smuggler with a history of running from the fight in charge of a commando raid?"
In retrospect, saying that Rex was the bearded rebel trooper in Return is a huge insult.
When is the republic vs the earth video coming out:(
I thought Rex used bolts instead of stuns while on the med bay bed was cause the stun rounds would of hit Ahsoka due to stuns having a larger hit area
Rex... He is the best of us
We as a community need a Rex series like the bad batch i want to know how he linked up with wolf and gregor and got their chips removed
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He wasn’t killing (at least in TCW Season 7) since his blasters were set to stun
It’s not the kind of thing you typically do, but could you do a what if video about if the entire 332ed had to move their inhibitor chips prior to order 66?