5 Tactical Upgrades the Clone Troopers Made During the Clone Wars
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2021
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It all started in Kamino...As soon as the Geonosis battle was over, Kaminoans started experimenting with new uniform upgrades for the Clones. The Republic commandoes kept their uniforms the same because theirs were upgraded due to their mission specs.
The ARC Trooper chestpieces were the same too, but the armor itself and helmets were changed to allow for consistancy with the rest of the Phase 2 armor. Granted, nobody can tell which Phase the ARC Trooper armor is because of the aforementioned chestplate, but the helmets just barely help. I liked the ARC Trooper Phase 1 helmets and thought that they should've been the Phase 2 helmets, personally, but that's just me.
it don't matter, any self respecting star wars fans dismisses anything to do with the prequels star wars garbage.
@@ericdraven7185 No. Just you.
I love how late ballistic shields came into action, like how long does it take to figure out piece of metal with window
Getting to finally see clone commandos in their classic armor was like a dream come true today.
Getting to see scorch made me squeal like a school girl
Same
I wonder if we’ll see any other I N T E R E S T I N G commandos in later episodes. Wether they’re loyal to the Empire or mb even the ideals of the Old Republic. It’d be great to see those connections. 👀
@erodoeht I hope Filoni kinda dives into the Karen Travis republic commando legends more with Omega Squad and the Null arcs.
@@jjj4362 Nulls were Hella interesting tbh. They already have expanded the mando Lore so I don't see why it wouldn't go into the nulls at least myself.
Rex: I like the protection of phase 1, but phase 2 is so much more comfortable
Anakin: have you tried welding them together?
Rex: I'll be back I've got some welding to do
While the clones are truly the admirable military force, the Battle Droids are still awesome to me. After all, the clones are fighting for the government that outlawed slavery as slave soldiers of that government. This is just so sad. They deserved better than this.
Just be careful not to let the droids develop sentience. Then they’ll start demanding rights. Other than that a droid army is ethically the best military choice in Star Wars
right the classic everyone has to follow the rules but the ones in charge...
I think what you also see is weapon diversification: flamethrowers, sniper rifles, increased use of machineguns, sadly we don't see much light artillery and infantry opperated artillery in action. That would be sick. Imagine a scene where clones are hammering droid fortifications while closing ground and then going in. Scouts directing air bombardment to supress droid tank colums.
They do use a mortar system on Umbara if memory serves. What is amazing is we see no armored warfare tactics. The clones never produce a Hans Guderian, Rommel, Patton, or Katukov. You see little to no combined arms tactics. The clone wars looks so much like early WWI for no apparent reason.
@@ace448 To quote critical drinker: "You can only write someone as smart as you are."
I doubt feloni has much military or historic background and most fight scene show artrocious squad tactics in even the simplest of things. I'm talking usage of cover and right placement of machine guns here. I'm no vet, but even dumb me knows how horrible most firefights are. It's sad but hey, still enough enjoyment in the series.
From what I saw, one of the advantages of the Rifle Blaster DC-15A was the aiming system, which was projected from gun to helmet with ologram, so clones fired with guns on their hips. The firepower capability of the DC-15S Rifle was the same compared to the Rifle Blaster DC-15A and had a higher firing rate but with a lower range. The DC-15S Rifle had a folding stock to provide more stability when firing.
I've never seen it unfolded in any media ever. I wonder if it was purely decorative and didn't actually fold out on the movie props, so everything after that just assumed it was a static part of the gun rather than something actually functional.
I love the new Phase 2.5 armor the TK troopers were sporting, and seeing the commandos back in action was fantastic
Clones 4 ever, Star Wars armies Tech vs Mass Effect Reapers.
I'm more of a clones 3 ever kind of guy
Im pretty sure there was a geetsly video about this
@@elitecompany51 Cool.
@@elitecompany51 Geetsly's is a real G
nah, clones are traitorous scum.
If you think about it, the clones all ways went forward into the thick of it in a more like act to avenge their brothers that have fallen. Just my guess
Removing their inhibitor chips was an awesome upgrade.
worst plot device ever conceived...
@@eddieram435 How were the inhibitor chips a bad plot device? Order 66 was a smart plan to ride the galaxy of Jedi for the new empire and for any survivors, Vader would clean them up with the inquisitors.
@@grayski3324 Filoni made the clones like battle droids completely detracting from the loyalty and dedication of the Clone Armies.
@@eddieram435 but they had personality’s and were unique. The kaminoins wanted the clones to be like better battle droids. They follow orders because of their training but they were individuals. The inhibitor chips were a great plot because it makes us feel conflicted in the clone wars tv shows and the bad batch because we grew to really care for them and the Jedi so we almost have to choose sides and it creates a great effect.
@@eddieram435 Wasn't the point of the Clone Wars tv show to present the personalities of the clones and have us understand how heartbreaking it was for them to be shut down to kill the jedi as ordered. Fives died trying to expose the truth and Maul understood how grand of plan Sidious has played. The clones were personally built for this endgame to happen as planned. As for the loyalty thing, the inhibitor chips switched it from their Jedi Generals to the Supreme Chancellor.
I never understand how they were able build, fund army, space fleet without noone notice it
how about a list of the toughest ships in sci fi. i dont mean the most powerful ships i mean the ships we have seen take a beaten and kept on ticking, like bsg yamato,voyager
If you are talking about individual ships that have survived damage that their sister ships would not of, then the "Fortitude/Tarkin's Will" is a decent one.
Jedi were trained to protect Jedi order, study the force and help others. Jedi are not warriors but peace keepers as stated in cannon. They were not trained to command a galactic army, they were caught up in the middle of events and had no choice. Salute to them they took the responsibility and did the best that they could.
Great comment. In Legends, the jedi naturally were generals, warriors and even chancellors. They *were* the republic, the same way the Sith *were* the Sith Empire.
@@abraham2172Agree, You were referring to the Old Republic Jedi right? the New Jedi order Lives in a time on slightly peaceful era until the blockade of Naboo. So basically during that period Jedi were only peacekeepers and not soldiers. And when the war broke out they have little to none knowledge about military management, planning and more. Despite that, Jedi took the responsibility of leading an army to war.
@@eiddeinlo8880 Yeah, I agree. Although the Sith kept them busy to a degree with a number of crises (If you'd like to know more, I can recommend the book Darth Plagueis)...
I meant the old republic jedi, thats right. Though my knowledge about that period is limited, mainly to the game SWTOR, wich I can also recommend.
@@abraham2172 Yes, However the topic of Allen only refers to the Clone Wars, and Darth Plagues the wise is very different from Darth Sidious, in therms of how they approach the Jedi Council, thus driving the circumstances to trigger Clone Wars and eventually order 66, with the Jedi being the victim
3:58 I forgot his name but I remember an arc trooper using a DC15A in the battle of kamino. And I think they used was far M5'S in the classic battlefront.
colt i think
The thing I love about shock troopers is that most of them stuck to the DC-15A.
make a video on the new prototype stormtrooper armor please :)
Phasing out the DC-15A was the best idea made by the GAR.
The 5th upgrade, Jedi Assistance is a great example of Clone Combined Arms Warfare, if you ask me.
The DC 15s does have a stock, its an underfolder that nobody seems to use
Good soldiers follow orders
Nah man, the best upgrade is switching to TCW artstyle, real handy to know when ROTS happening after it reverts to live-action
To me I feel like all that changed was the helmets
I like the look of the phase 1 helmets so much better than any of the others
We need a Clone Wars game where we start from Geonosis and become a commander, customize our own clone and his army over time, and than see the degradation of the republic, execute order 66, maybe even become a stormtrooper and see the anti-clone sentiments first hand, I think it would be super cool if done well.
I'd love to make a clone commander who goes nuts in melee with a shield, stun baton, and jetpack.
What was the "SONIC CANNON" used in the Geonosis Battle ? I would LOVE to see a Video of these types of Weapons !
Imagine if the clone wars had gone on for five or ten years. Imagine the advancements.
Very enjoyable video man, glad ppl like you make content like this
get a few kills and you get the elite rifle, best rifle in the GAR.
Duuude, the Award Rifle is the booomb. On my brother's account(he'd been playing from just after the game came out to 2017-18) he had played it so much that he simply had every award/elite weapon in the game just by default.
@@arfyego0682 youve really gotta focus to get them but sadly they're not all as good, beam rifle sucks compared to the regular sniper, but because you've gotta change weapons to use them you double your ammo cap for free
@@warriorwolf77 Yeah beam rifle is garbo lol I wish they just increased the firepower of the normal sniper instead of making it a beam
@@arfyego0682 it sucks too cause the sniper is one of the easiest to get the reward for permanently, just camp the higher command post on kamino.
But then again after getting the elite rifle I never had a reason to use anything else.
@@warriorwolf77 Lol ikr the elite rifle is amazing, by far my favorite gun in the game
To be honest, I did like the *phase 1* but I liked the *phase 2* though, they were just *SOOO much cooler*
One of the most "humanitarian" things the Jedi did in their treatment of the clones was not only allow (for the most part, some Jedi excluded) but also encourage individuality of the clone troopers. I believe this helped give the clones a greater sense of individual ability, self accomplishment, as well as sacrifice... if you understand my meaning, sir.
maybe it's just me, but i always liked the look of phase I armour much more than phase II
You nailed it on the head there, giving Jedis & their padawans the rein of command over experienced warriors is VERY LOW IQ.
I still think that the Clone Troopes are the "Tacticoolest" 😌
The problem of the Empire was that it didn't adapt and evolve👉
Anyone else notice that he still has his Christmas tree up?
Super cool tank top bro.
Episode idea . ranking of the members of the bad batch from most powerful to least powerful.
They all have plotarmor, so theyre all equally invincible and undefeatable when fighting the Empire.
Phase 1 helmets are so badass
During the video I noticed a mouse cursor left behind on the screen and it made me wonder about the presumed collection of clips you use as background. Can you talk about some of the production that goes into your videos?
Allen: the Jedi didn’t use their terrain on geonosis
Also Allen: *shows completely flat battlefield*
2:53 "portable cover"
me thing of portable highground
I love how Alan acts like the clones were innocent humans with feelings. They were disposable trash made for war. Nothing innocent about them.
"If your commander doesn't believe in cover, bring your own."
I always liked the design of the Phase I
I agree it looked really awesome
Imagine if the same thing happened with Inquisitors.
Nothing and no one used by or fighting for the Empire in the new canon would ever adapt to anything in a logical way, the filmmakers are way too incompetent.
Topic Idea: "Resurrected Ships" like Undead Ships, ships that went down but either through reconstruction or other means they flew or sailed once again
Awesome video bud
Always the genius explanation that I expected from Alan you’re the man to give us light from the questions we have about the Star wars lore hope you make more for us, I love it when my notifications shows Generation Tech in it.
Alen is gonna geek out for ep 14 bad batch
That is a video I'm waiting for.
The DC-15a does have a folding shoulder stock that collapses beneath the frame
They're soldiers, clones on top of that. Going too far into that is like pausing to wonder if the Stormtrooper's feelings would be hurt if you shot his buddy.
Sidenote, has anyone else noticed that in the clone wars movie, the ropes aren't attached to the clones' rifles?
I agree.
We love Clones
I'm I the only one that think it's strange there is a Christmas tree next to Alan when this only just came out 2 weeks ago?
to me phase one armor looks epik
They didn't "change" to the DC15s. They were already in use on Geonosis and you even see them used in the movie by the clones who arrive at Dooku's hanger
The dc15s really seems like a massive downgrade.
@Generation Tech What if the Republic had the Droid Army and CIS had the Clone Army? whats your option on this and how will it changed the clone wars.
We actually see Phase III armour in the latest Bad Batch episode -- it's just worn by non-clones. It was based on the original Stormtrooper sketches for A New Hope. IIRC there was also one in Jedi: Fallen Order that was another Phase II -- Stormtrooper stepping stone.
We also see it in the Force Unleashed
@GenerationTech
In the history of Star Wars, Canon or Legends, has a faction ever used something similar to a Mobile Suit armor in warfare?
What if the Separatist Alliance and Galactic Republic used actual real life intelligent military tactics and strategies during the Clone Wars?
Their tactics and strategies oftentimes actually make sence within the sw franchise, unlike the imperial strategies and tactics of the OT and every Disney garbage today, wich dont make sence in any way.
Please make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth
Lots of people look at the Battle of Geonosis, as a failure (and rightly so) but I don't think I've actually seen any videos looking at how the Jedi's strategy could have been better and could encompass less losses on the battlefield and hopefully not disillusion many clones (like the clone commandos and arc troopers) against the jedi.
When you guys need a new episode idea please cove the Dugs like Sebulba
A sad fact that most of the improvements are made by the clones on their own. But at least they were allowed to. Stormtroopers, lost out on these worth while upgrades, and only top snipers, it would seem, got the good stuff, to be.. "so precise", when others were lucky to be able to hit the planet or station they were standing on.
Still. In defense of most Jedi, only a few were callos, and uncaring, not seeing them as people. They did what they called to improve their troopers' situations ..as they themselves were learning and adapting to the harsh realities of war..even though it was a painfully slow and steep learning curve prosece. They meant well..just didn't manage so well.
If the "DARKSIDER", hadn't clouded things so effectively, they would have been more insightful, and better able to do for the far too young troopers..important things; like stopping their hyper speed aging..once full grown, at least.
They were even hypocrites. They told the clones to be more individualistic yet won't take their own advice.
Wait they've always could fly! 🤣😂🤣
The new prototype stormtrooper armors are based on Ralph McQuarrie's concept art from the original trilogy.
This is 1 area that I like Warhammer 30k when the Imperial tried and failed to use space marines as leaders of unaugmented humans so kept left the leadership of humans to humans.
Cloner trooper : SIR! what are your orders
jedi general : YOLO!
Jetpack troopers best troopers
0:39 lmao blame the Jedi, sure.
question is it possible for a clone to have force abilities naturally as there should be no reason why they cant it should in theory be a matter of percentages after all the force cant tell there clones there just more lifeforms and what do you think a clone would do with the force
rex vouches for phase 1 breat plate defensibility, not confort, which makes sense, usuly the best protective armours are not confortable, and he would rather be alive than confortable, so he would keep the breat plate to protect the most important organs, while changing the other pieces for the ligther and more movable phase 2 pieces.
Sorry to bring this up but both the dc15a carbine and e11 have colapsable stocks.
Did clone troopers need additional training to be allowed to use jetpack or was it just. "I'm just going to pick up my jetpack in case"
It depends. Sometimes we see specialized jetpack units, sometimes we see regular clones using jetpacks. For example, the 501st troopers destroying the bridge were very likely specialized units. At least thats my personal evaluation, therere no official sources on that topic I know.
How long can a Star Wars jet pack fly for?
For the Republic
You forgot to mention The disappearance off almost all specialized troops in the last three years
Say what you want about what phase is better, but the DC-15A rifle looks cooler than the carbine variant, and the phase one armor looks cooler than the phase two. If I had my own small armor, I would give them phase one armor, and rifles as opposed to carbines.
High ground lol
Rick said generation phase one control per arm or chest piece not arm reset
It's just like the simulations.
Why wasn't there any force sensitive clones. That's a huge missed opportunity.
What if bail antilles became supreme chancellor in episode 1
5:25 They fly now?
There will be another army like the clone army
Is anyone wondering why alan has a Christmas tree still up?
Hmmm? According to you the Clones are only good against Low Quality droids.
It’s true.. Using a traditional clone army is no different then using a low quality droid force..
You use both as cannon fodder & to fill roles quickly for a expanded military force.. Clones are flashed trained for a task(s) & droid are programmed for task(s).. Yes clones can “think” but only with what little education & personal experience they are allowed to possess.. Weighed down by organic reaction & processing speed which will always be inferior to any higher quality automaton..
Now specialized Clone forces like ARCs & Commandoes can be argued differently.. they are actually trained in real life scenarios and situations & given better education & equipment.. With some being genetically modified to improve performance.. consequences they are in fewer numbers being higher quality themselves.
Higher quality droids on the other hand that have a dedicated AI brain that can adapt their programming to the situation can counter the “best feature of organics” which is their situational adaptability.. Add on that droids can be built sturdier & tougher then any human, with higher reaction & processing speeds.. Droids don’t feel pain & aren’t slowed down by injures or fear.. Alas Since building armies of advanced terminator like droids are more expensive then most planets can afford most settle for cheaper easily mass produced droids, clones or cyborg forces or even just regular bodies if the population allows.
@@ravager2-636 Well clones werent flash trained they have 10 years of war training along with genetic enhancements for the purpose of being warriors and are clones of one the bet bounty hunters the galaxy had see, so I wouldn't say they are meant for cannon fodder, even George Lucas intended them to be the most elite army the galaxy had ever seen, they appear to be cannon fodder at times for the purpose of pushing the plot forwards or because Jedi were horrible leaders and charged into battle with no issue cuz they have super human abilities and can block blaster bolts yet expected clones to follow them no matter what even despite clones not being superhuman or being able to block blaster bolts lol. Clones are the best, they just cant appear to be so all the time in shows because then if realism takes the show over there wouldnt be much story to give lol.
@@keithalvarado6033 😂 you really believed the Kaminoan sale pitch “10yrs of training for war”.. infants, toddlers & preschoolers they have to learn to be walk, talk, read, write & not shit there plastoid first so there go the first few years & since flash training ain’t a thing apparently they have to do it the old fashioned way.. Sure the 1.2M 10yr old clones are an elite force, best in the galaxy they trained for years but the 9, 8, 7yr old clones behind them are going to have to get quicker, less complete training so they can get in the war sooner (quality suffers).. Since the clones make up the main part of the GAR & the only one’s really fighting against the endless CIS attacks & nobody from the Cloners, Republic Military & the Republic government gave a damn about them & view them as just as a “clone” in war.. Which is the definition of cannon fodder: “soldiers regarded merely as material to be expended in war.” That’s the fate of all clones there’s no happy ending for them.. At the end of the day there’s just artificially grown humans that were bred to die in the Sith plot for power.. With a production time of 10yrs for a highly skilled warrior it’s not sustainable when fighting a enemy that can just build or recruit 100x that..
@@ravager2-636 Yeah of course I believe it, its established star wars lore, its not like these people actually existed and can lie on their own will, the established lore is that they are trained starting from birth. How? who knows. I mean you can train babies to do certain things very early on, babies take in alot mentally at young ages, science shows that even very young infants are affected by their environment and their brains can be trained even when developing, so how the Kaminoans did it, leave it up to star wars science. by definition your right about cannon fodder, in the context you were using it though it sounded like you were saying that they are just useless so contextually to me it didnt fit but I see your point.
Its not an upgrade, but Clones didn't customize just their armor. They customize their appearance: different hair and facial hair style, tattoos and other cosmetics.
Well, they adapt they enemy...but was they true dangere Jedie commanders or CIS battle droids?
Wow
None the armor the clone troopers wore protected them from blasters... so there was no reason to wear it, they might as well not have worn any armor at all and have more mobility, and been lighter.
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Someone must have forgot to tell Finn troopers have had jetpacks for years. Wonder why he wouldn’t have known that? Being an ex-stormtrooper and all. Oh. Wait... 😒
I wish the Empire would adapt in a logical way, too. But it seems thats against the natural laws within the Disney canon.
Did that include target practice?
TOO EASY
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