Why Most Droid Weapons Absolutely SUCKED in the Clone Wars - Droid Weapons Explained

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  • @lifevest1
    @lifevest1 Pƙed 2 lety +553

    “E5s are poor quality, they’re a dime a dozen.”
    CIS leadership: “A dime?! Damn we got ripped off.”

    • @johngancarcik5682
      @johngancarcik5682 Pƙed rokem +10

      No wonder they could afford so many droids cheap weapons

  • @drewpeterson9236
    @drewpeterson9236 Pƙed 2 lety +483

    Clones: “Droid weapons suck. Those Clankers can’t aim and are weak”
    Also Clones: “WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS!!!!”

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      MOAR DAKKA!

    • @henryk1031
      @henryk1031 Pƙed 2 lety +28

      Good thing the bugs can’t aim right?

    • @zeratul____1228
      @zeratul____1228 Pƙed 2 lety +34

      To be fair its easier to hit something with an explosive weapon as even if you miss so long as you are in the same ballpark you're likely to do some damage.

    • @michaelarmstrong9722
      @michaelarmstrong9722 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      @@henryk1031 gunship: DIES

    • @michelecastellotti1884
      @michelecastellotti1884 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@akumaking1 droidekas: allow us to introduce ourself

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 Pƙed 2 lety +210

    Seppie Commander, "Set your blasters for stun."
    B1 Commander, "Uhhh...Sir? We do not have a stun setting."

    • @lilacocto9103
      @lilacocto9103 Pƙed 2 lety +23

      Damn cost cutting measures...

    • @masterqui-gonjinn90
      @masterqui-gonjinn90 Pƙed 2 lety +35

      ah you mean use the blasters as a club

    • @zexalbrony4799
      @zexalbrony4799 Pƙed 2 lety +31

      Seppie Commander, "Karabase. Okay, just aim for the legs or arms then so you don't kill."
      B1 Commander, "Uhhh, Sir? These things aren't very accurate. We usually just fire rapidly and hope we hit something."
      Seppie Commander, "I hate my job."

    • @tk-6967
      @tk-6967 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      They would never set for stun, battle droids probably couldn't even hit a shot when firing at civilians, and we have only seen clone prisoners in Bf2, in Clone Wars clones would only surrender if they were committing war crimes, or they would commit war crimes by pulling a Hevy moment.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@tk-6967 what are you talking about, droids are shown to be able to hit their targets plenty of times in the clone wars and the movies, especially at close range (or when fighting jedi, their aim magically reduces when clones are the only forces they fight. funny that)

  • @RobocopStealerOfFridges
    @RobocopStealerOfFridges Pƙed 2 lety +369

    Literally anyone who played Republic Commando: Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete.

    • @olif7583
      @olif7583 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      Super battle droid go brrrrrrrr

    • @lifevest1
      @lifevest1 Pƙed 2 lety +30

      Geonosian beam weapon..yeeesh

    • @the_trough77
      @the_trough77 Pƙed 2 lety +21

      Yea that geo beam gun still gives me nightmares.

    • @LegitAjit
      @LegitAjit Pƙed 2 lety +28

      I really hated the super battle droids and the beam weapon. Also anyone else happy that they included our boy Scorch in the last episode of The Bad Batch.

    • @liamlior9893
      @liamlior9893 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Not treu, the battle droids in that game are really easy to kill

  • @SureSShuffle
    @SureSShuffle Pƙed 2 lety +754

    Ahhh yes no wonder my KD on battlefront 2 with droids is 0.0009.

  • @censoredquotes3518
    @censoredquotes3518 Pƙed 2 lety +453

    So basically quantity over quality. That’s kinda of the entire model for the CIS military. Why make expensive rifles for droids that won’t even last that long.

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  Pƙed 2 lety +88

      Yup!

    • @maciejas2471
      @maciejas2471 Pƙed 2 lety +18

      Just as Empire

    • @alexissandoval1284
      @alexissandoval1284 Pƙed 2 lety +40

      @@maciejas2471 The Empire's weapons were actually very good. The E-11 was very accurate, had great stopping power, easy to reload and relatively inexpensive.

    • @Meravokas
      @Meravokas Pƙed 2 lety +10

      @@alexissandoval1284 Easy to reload if you only needed to replace the power pack. XD

    • @skybot7091
      @skybot7091 Pƙed 2 lety +15

      @@alexissandoval1284 yes cept for how the first few movies portray the stormtroopers missing every darn shot and firing from their waist as if it were a gatler

  • @scoutman66
    @scoutman66 Pƙed 2 lety +210

    "Why most droid weapons sucked in the Clone Wars"
    That does not compute. You're under arrest

  • @clonesolar
    @clonesolar Pƙed 2 lety +419

    Palpatine: Does it fire?
    Count Dooku: Yes.
    Palpatine: Does it aim?
    Count Dooku: Yes, but..
    Palpatine: Do it.
    Count dooku: Ok...

  • @nunouno001
    @nunouno001 Pƙed 2 lety +261

    Man... Imagine how powerful and devastating the Droid Army could have been if Sidious and Dooku weren't screwing the CIS over at every opportunity.

    • @videocrowsnest5251
      @videocrowsnest5251 Pƙed 2 lety +62

      The CIS would have likely won the Clone Wars in a matter of months, if not instantly. Despite being found out early and not yet ready on Geonosis - They had a massive naval supremacy advantage over the Republic, so basically space superiority, a massive numbers advantage, a chain of command that somewhat functioned (Gen.Grievous was quite not yet up to speed at the start due to getting used to his body, but the Seperatists had early on a lot of commanders that Sidious and Dooku got rid of due to feeling they were too competent, good, and dangerous to be kept alive) plus a general idea of what they wanted to do. Looking at everything, the Jedi and fledgling GAR would have been no match had the CIS really been focused on victory, instead of being a pawn in a bloody galactic theater production with one being running the whole charade.

    • @abraham2172
      @abraham2172 Pƙed 2 lety +17

      Dooku and especially Sidious (and Plagueis) were the reason why the cis even existed. Read the book Darth Plagueis, it explains everything you need to know about the set up for the legendary prequels.

    • @abraham2172
      @abraham2172 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@videocrowsnest5251 Thats nonsence. The republic had in fact capable and experienced commanders on their own. They could easily have recruited a massive army capable of dealing with the low quality battle droids. Think of the billions of beings on Coruscant alone. People claiming the republic wouldve been overrun in a few months also tend to forget about the planetary defense forces. Even if the cis managed to conquer large parts of republican territory, the droids were terrible at fighting insurgencies. The cis offensive would quickly come to a still stand, giving the republic enough time to gathering its forces. Dont forget the jedi were excellent insurgency leaders, trainers and fighters.

    • @videocrowsnest5251
      @videocrowsnest5251 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@abraham2172 Indeed they were. The scenario made was if they weren't trying to sabotage the CIS, and letting it just do its thing. And while the Republic could easily have recruited or conscripted many beings, training them takes time, and the Venator did not enter service until a bit into the war. Usually also only wealthy planets tended to have access to, well-equipped defense forces, and some of those defected to the CIS as well when the Clone Wars got underway. The Republic was also consistently outnumbered in the naval space game throughout the entire Clone Wars to the point they avoided space battles at all costs. You also need to consider what the CIS wanted: To have the Republic recognize them as an official state, and thus letting them be their own Confederacy. The idea thus was not domination and conquest, but being able to secede, though admirably what the CIS as represented by the parliament wanted and what the Separatist Council of tycoons wanted were two different things with the latter having the power to do as they willed, and for them, it was a money/power grab.

    • @charlottewalnut3118
      @charlottewalnut3118 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@abraham2172 You do realize most of those people would be unwilling to fight right

  • @chengzhou8711
    @chengzhou8711 Pƙed 2 lety +392

    “All the droid equipment were made to be modular to the droids that were wielding them, and therefore they did not have to spend any money on various safety features. The carbines that the droids carried were prone to overheating the entire weapon, making it useless to our sensitive little hands, especially if you want a decent rate of fire. On top of that, most of the other weapons were tough to reverse-engineer, although it has been done. The highly modular nature of the droid template evolutions were one of its keys to success.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Former Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion

    • @andymiller6661
      @andymiller6661 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Using a captain as a scout, at least for a battalion, is silly

    • @chengzhou8711
      @chengzhou8711 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@andymiller6661 it’s not the first time I’ve heard this precise notion, although I was just describing a bit of his background before he got a command position. I also usually make a big deal that he wears ARF armor with some armor additions such as armor inserts and bandoliers.

    • @andymiller6661
      @andymiller6661 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@chengzhou8711 It's not a notion. He's ridiculously senior to he a scout in a battalion, unless the whole battalion is comprised of scouts.

    • @flamebreaker7318
      @flamebreaker7318 Pƙed rokem

      @@andymiller6661 can you not read

    • @andymiller6661
      @andymiller6661 Pƙed rokem

      @@flamebreaker7318 No, I'm completely illiterate.

  • @hunterkiller1440
    @hunterkiller1440 Pƙed 2 lety +716

    Sounds like the Empire took this model. There were many complaints by Stormtroopers on how their blasters are very poorly calibrated.

    • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
      @grandadmiralzaarin4962 Pƙed 2 lety +127

      only in Disney Canon. In Legends and the original films they are treated as exceptional and elite soldiers with the best weapons and armor outside the Royal Guard.

    • @fallenkonrade5333
      @fallenkonrade5333 Pƙed 2 lety +102

      Eh, the E-11 blasters were top of the line though. I mean sure, compared to something like the A280 it doesn’t stand much of a chance penetration wise, but it was still a superior to most blasters used by the Empire’s enemies. It had an advanced cooling system, good range, and was tested and proven on the field to function in all environments, and even in the void in most cases. And while stormtroopers occasionally had some issues regarding the helmet and weapon calibration, that was really the only relative issue. Chances are anyone that claims that the E-11 is trash most likely sports a vintage or modified weapon, which tops the E-11 for obvious reasons.

    • @hunterkiller1440
      @hunterkiller1440 Pƙed 2 lety +28

      @@grandadmiralzaarin4962 I've read contradicting legends material.

    • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
      @grandadmiralzaarin4962 Pƙed 2 lety +43

      @@hunterkiller1440 it's largely consistent in terms of Stormtrooper quality. While some degree of decrease in proficiency was seen after the switch to volunteers was made from Clones, Stormtroopers remained the elite until the Post Endor period when the Empire fractured and many Warlords put barely trained conscripts or regular army troopers in Stormtrooper armor leading to ineffective troopers. The destruction of Carida by the Sun Crusher wiped out the last main official Stormtrooper academy and by the time of the Imperial Remnant the Stormtrooper corps was a shadow of its former self.
      Gear, armor and training were largely standard across the galaxy for the Corps, but some backwaters obviously were assigned the lower quality troopers, though even these were always held to be superior to the Army and Navy Troopers in the Empire.
      In DisCan it's already a jumbled mess because they are supposed to be both elite troops but also completely incompetent canon fodder with bad equipment at the same time and it varies from source to source. DisCan is far more of a contradictory mess than Legends and it managed to become such in a fraction of the time.

    • @scoutman66
      @scoutman66 Pƙed 2 lety +40

      Disney canon completely took the intimidation factor of the Galactic Empire, threw it out in the street, ran over it with a tank, set it on fire and pissed all over it.
      "Yeah, you've got the standard Imperial army trooper who are supposed to be the main battle force while Stormtroopers are the elites. Haha, sike. You actually believed that, even though we stated it in one of our own movies. No, Stormtroopers are still the main battle force and they are the ones that completely suck lol"

  • @eveningswan4491
    @eveningswan4491 Pƙed 2 lety +75

    The sniper rifle going fully automatic makes perfect sense to me. If they are found in the spot and are getting flanked they swap to full auto and get put up a fight

    • @geoffreyprecht2410
      @geoffreyprecht2410 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      And folks acted like Widowmaker's sniper/smg combo was special smh

    • @comissar8953
      @comissar8953 Pƙed 2 lety

      True

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn Pƙed 2 lety

      That's basically what Simo Haya had anyway. Rifle for long range work, SMG for when the enemy gets close.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert Pƙed 2 lety +2

      The long barrel seems like a handicap in a close quarters fight. Might as well carry a handgun.

    • @Dovah_Slayer
      @Dovah_Slayer Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +1

      When you think about it yeah it wouldn't be useful in too close of combat though

  • @Meravokas
    @Meravokas Pƙed 2 lety +214

    I think that in the case of B2's with how the wrist blasters look in the movies (Over the stylization of comics, TCW, ect.) the energy pack is likely a case of being part of the built in battery system of the droid, eliminating the portion of a blaster that needs to be replaced most. The Tibana gas reserves, which for almost all blaster weapons, are the least likely thing for you to run dry on given that it was pressurized to a replicable liquid canister, tube, fixed internal container, whatever. The B2 could likely easily house reserves as large as some mounted (light) blaster emplacements, meaning that the likelihood of a B2 running out of munitions for it's primary wrist blasters during campaign/between maintenance cycles is actually quite low. This is just conjecture, but it's also what makes the most sense for a built in weapon on such a large and armored platform as the B2.

  • @chonkyloreraccoon3686
    @chonkyloreraccoon3686 Pƙed 2 lety +78

    Translation:
    Your local school hired a ton of top tier teachers but cut budgets on all of their class rooms and limited their teaching methods.
    Your Olympic gold medalist swim teacher only had inflatable pools and your ex NASA computer science teacher only had computers from 2007 running windows vista

  • @charlessaint7926
    @charlessaint7926 Pƙed 2 lety +59

    Describing the SC-14 as "nothing more than a tube with a grip", reminds me of the Sten gun from World War II. It was described as bed spring with a barrel.

    • @mr.nobody2191
      @mr.nobody2191 Pƙed 2 lety

      The plumber's nightmare

    • @FilthyRedds
      @FilthyRedds Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Sten Is And Angry Tube With A Trigger

    • @koushiro86
      @koushiro86 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Hell, the Sterling SMGs the E-11 blaster rifle props were modified from were just pipes with grips, stocks and mags

    • @daviddiab7551
      @daviddiab7551 Pƙed rokem +1

      The SE 14 pistol is modeled after the Swiss Rexim Fervor smg

  • @TheNorthie
    @TheNorthie Pƙed 2 lety +78

    CIS sound like how the Soviets treated their tank the T-34. They looked at the T-34 and made the decision to make large numbers of them as this was how they were gonna beat the Germans. The data they collected showed no T-34 lasted more than 6-7 months in the field, so they made sure all their parts could last at least that long. No need for crew comfort as well since The tank itself didn’t last that long under combat. But that was perfectly fine as they could get that crew into a fresh tank immediately afterwards.
    It was a cold and calculating decision, but it was one that won them the war

    • @___von___7377
      @___von___7377 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      Also, the German Tigers, despite being tougher than the T-34s, frequently broke down as well. Both tanks were plagued with mechanical issues during combat.

    • @TheNorthie
      @TheNorthie Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@___von___7377 the Germans decided to prioritize making tanks over making spare parts for tanks. For every 10 Tiger Is built, only 1 Tiger Is would be able to repair itself fully. It got so bad that armed guards were stationed near supply dumps of these parts to prevent crews and engineers from stealing them.

    • @___von___7377
      @___von___7377 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      ​@@TheNorthie Yep. When both sides are hindered by all sorts of maintenance issues, the only real way to win, as you mentioned, is by outnumbering your enemy. I also wonder if the Soviets, after defeating the Germans, stole parts from the broken-down Tigers for their own use?

    • @TheNorthie
      @TheNorthie Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@___von___7377 they probably wouldn’t be compatible for their tanks, but they definitely might have gotten parts to put together Tigers for testing purposes. The Germans were well known to steal Allied vehicles and use them. The Americans at least with the Sherman was always reliable, slated for 4000 miles for many parts, and an abundance of spare parts, crew safety, and crew comfort.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      thats a myth actually.
      firstly the T-34 is a pre-war design. its not meant to be comfortable because soviet tank doctrine was about leap frogging your units forward, tank crews were not supposed to spend more than a few hours in their tanks at most, not because they expected to loose them in combat.

  • @arandomcrusader6707
    @arandomcrusader6707 Pƙed 2 lety +17

    B1 Battle Droid:"We're droids sir We're meant to be expendable."
    Clone:"That seems about right."

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 Pƙed 2 lety +27

    “So how cheap were the CIS?”
    “Yes”

  • @ace7843
    @ace7843 Pƙed 2 lety +83

    I’m going to guess the rapid fire mode on the E5s is in case the sniper was found out they could still fight at close range

    • @DJ-kp7mf
      @DJ-kp7mf Pƙed 2 lety +10

      Yep it probably was not designed to any actually damage but instead just suppress your opponent long enough so you could run away.

    • @marsar1775
      @marsar1775 Pƙed 2 lety +9

      the "Oh Shit" setting

    • @AtomicArtumas
      @AtomicArtumas Pƙed 2 lety +1

      close range fighting, or defensive siege suppression - If fighting a large number of incoming forces that have little to no cover, rapid fire ends up generally way more useful than targeted fire, regardless of how much "better" the targeted fire is. Just look at AoEs in something like defense missions in X-COM, etc.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Pƙed 2 lety +27

    A sensible tactic if the CIS was actually playing to win, would be to salvage clone weapons left on the battlefield - a standard tactic of the attrition warfare of WW2 where captured enemy gear was often put into service.
    And in Star Wars, there isn't even the issue of ammunition calibre.

  • @ShadowMaster1171
    @ShadowMaster1171 Pƙed 2 lety +33

    i like how 2005 b2 had the supers reload by doing a left then right spin with their wrists

  • @nerdynobody574
    @nerdynobody574 Pƙed 2 lety +16

    you say the barrel of the e-5 getting hot enough to cause third degree burns is a bad thing but really it just adds bonus fire damage on melee attack rolls so like

    • @jonumine6250
      @jonumine6250 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      And meant clones couldn't just salvage/use them efficiently either.

  • @Ajc-ni3xn
    @Ajc-ni3xn Pƙed 2 lety +15

    6:04 perhaps it’s because they expected their snipers to be found, so when they did, they would lock down their entrances and take as many clones as they could with them before they were destroyed?

  • @sovietdoge.7369
    @sovietdoge.7369 Pƙed 2 lety +16

    I think that the E-5s having an automatic setting was actually a good choice, because if found in close-mid range, the droid wouldn't be limited to 4 shots

  • @DCPTF2
    @DCPTF2 Pƙed 2 lety +21

    if i remember my Star wars RPG lore correctly the avrage B1 costs around 1,800 Credits to produce and the E-5 is around 900 credits a blaster, so for the cost of 2,700 Credits you can buy a single DC-15A blaster rifle and have 500 credits left over (for maybe lunch), this to me sounds like the clones got the Raw end of the deal. Every clone needs to get at least 1 kill to break even meanwhile a single kill from a E-5 makes it's money back and then some. Honestly saying the E-5 is a bad gun misses the point it was the right Blaster for the Right type of solider, to take a quote from Warhammer 40K, "you may laugh at the Lasgun, it may not pierce our armour by itself, but the Fool who laughs at the gun itself, has never charged a hundred of them fired together in a true volley of death"

    • @GoDamnWeird
      @GoDamnWeird Pƙed 2 lety

      My Ubese Bounty Hunter in the SWRPG had no issue with the E-5 droid carbine, those survival suits rock! He did have a crate of them that we'd salvaged off a CIS wreck, and the party let him keep them for himself. He wore a Mer-Sonn 454 Deathhammer in a low slung holster on his thigh, but always had an E-5 on a shoulder strap under his poncho. They kick alien butt at point blank range, and that was good enough for him.

  • @owencarey2954
    @owencarey2954 Pƙed 2 lety +83

    So, one might say B2s are never unarmed unless they are “unarmed”.
    I regret nothing.

  • @Mynamesjeff2818_2
    @Mynamesjeff2818_2 Pƙed 2 lety +21

    I mean third degree burns don’t matter when your operators is pretty much just metal.

  • @krzosu
    @krzosu Pƙed 2 lety +17

    Since blasters need gas to fire (and power) this would mean that inbuild blasters in b2's had a gas tank in the arm - all you would need is just an outer gas port to refill it - without the need of disasembling the arm - that would be needed for maintnance though - in this case i would think they would just dismantle the arm and replace it with another one ready for use - that would make more sense. Tha gas port idea would be the best because it would allow them to use portable gas tanks - and that would also explain why there were a lot of tibana canisters around separatist stongpoints. All the droid would have to do is plug in - refuell and off it goes.

    • @AtomicArtumas
      @AtomicArtumas Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Alternatively, there's no real reason the built-in blasters couldn't just have a normal reload drum type of ammo canister just built into the arm that can be pulled out and replaced - Under a removable armor plating or something.
      Most likely it would've been in the main body section though - Much more room there, with almost no necessary mechanical parts since it doesn't bend or move. Probably something like a removable back panel that has a replaceable battery and gas can. - Considering lone B2s were basically unheard of, it wouldn't be that odd for them to have to reload each other's weapons.

  • @celestialspartan1176
    @celestialspartan1176 Pƙed 2 lety +23

    Not only was the E5 Blaster Rifle a horrible weapon for organics, the handle grip for it just looked absolutely uncomfortable. I would take a DC-15S blaster carbine, the DC-17 interchangeable weapon system, or a Mandalorian Death Watch blaster carbine over the uncomfortable mess that is the E5 any day.

    • @TheWarwolf102
      @TheWarwolf102 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      that's kinda the point

    • @danshakuimo
      @danshakuimo Pƙed 2 lety +7

      You use the E5 to kill someone with a better gun, and then you take their gun.

  • @Suppiluliuma_1
    @Suppiluliuma_1 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    Can you made video about Currency in Star Wars Galaxy

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  Pƙed 2 lety +6

      Your credits are no good here.

    • @garrygong4400
      @garrygong4400 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@geetslys Credits WILL do fine.

  • @InitialiseDisk
    @InitialiseDisk Pƙed 2 lety +23

    As the commando droids proved that the E-5 was actually a good weapon when well handled.

  • @nikolajsteffensen6578
    @nikolajsteffensen6578 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    my guess regarding the B2 is that they didn't really need to reload. we know they sometimes explode. and we know their torso is pretty darn bulky. maybe they just had a stupidly large clip size to where reload didn't really become a necesity except in month long campaigns? or they had multiple Magazines installed in their arms that then cycled if one runs out. plenty of ways to resolve an ammo shortage like that. sure they would still need partial disassembly for reload but this could be done in between combat where their potential ammo storage could be refilled.

  • @joshfritz5345
    @joshfritz5345 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    The E-5 was the perfect weapon for the needs of the confederacy. It was cheap, compact and easily replaceable, just like the droids that wielded them. Additionally, it's overheating issues were not so bad in the hands of battle droids who would not be injured by the excessive heat.

  • @Ganonsmork
    @Ganonsmork Pƙed 2 lety +12

    The Republic and CIS be like: *WHY ARE WE SO BLIND TO SEE THAT THE ONES WE HURT, ARE YOU AND ME?*

    • @axelmilan4292
      @axelmilan4292 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Been spendin most our lives living in a Star Wars paradise

  • @lewiszhou4056
    @lewiszhou4056 Pƙed měsĂ­cem +1

    6:45 "It was a tube with a grip, while it made for a cost effective side arm it probably wasn't very useful on the battlefield"
    *M3 Grease gun looks around nervously*

  • @leecline5759
    @leecline5759 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I do a little bit of writing and weapon design for myself, but I chose to give one of the mainline sniper rifles a rapid fire option, mostly as an option for when the sniper's position is revealed and they need firepower in order to retreat.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish Pƙed 2 lety +2

    SE14s are actually quite good, if you don't mind overheating or running out of ammo. Serious firepower in a moderately sized package. The empire kept using them too.

  • @khathaway414
    @khathaway414 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I have to image the B2 droid stored a lot of blaster gas and energy packs in its body, feeding the wrist blasters through tubing. As for the rocket arm it could have been as easy as loading a missile is through a gate like loading a shotgun.

    • @zeratul____1228
      @zeratul____1228 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Sounds like if you aren't careful where you shoot you could ignite the gas reserve or detonate the rockets, depending where the B2 is this could be a boon or a big mistake.

    • @khathaway414
      @khathaway414 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@zeratul____1228 True.

  • @zeratul____1228
    @zeratul____1228 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    The thought just occured to me that there would be a TON of weapons left over from a conflict involving droids, bases would be loaded with spares since it would be easier and cheaper to just have the droid replace the weapon rather than try to fix it. In addition to the weapons being left on the battlefield for the same reason of it probably being better to just buy new ones rather than try to recover the old ones.
    What this woul dmean is that the after market from the war would be flooded with these weapons, the Clone armoury would have a similar issue of stockpiles of old weapons but these would be more due to the rollouts of new weapons rather than the reason I described for the droids since clone have been shown to take pride in their weapons and even clean them themelves.

  • @leventedeak4517
    @leventedeak4517 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    In my opinion the machine gun purpose of the sniper rifle is actually a good choice, because if the sniper location were compromised, he can easily hold of a large amount of enemy troopers at close range.

    • @peterdonlon2083
      @peterdonlon2083 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I strongly disagree. IRL sniper tactics dictate heavy protection of sniper positions. IE a position will be defended by a squad minimum. Additionally, most sniper positions are within friendly lines. Adding machine gun capabilities to a sniper reduces its effectiveness in its original intended role, while providing negligible benefit. If a sniper ends up heading a PDF, it’s much more efficient for them to use a separate weapon that is tailor made to the situation.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@peterdonlon2083 and yet modern snipers hve no where near the kill counts of the ww2 era super snipers who were out alone or in small units, often behind enemy lines. the highest kill count sniper ever used a sniper rifle-SMG combination.
      now a droid sniper, being super expenadable, can use the more effective but more risky ww2 era tactics where a weapon capable of being both a sniper rifle and an SMG would be super useful. remember star wars blasters don't need different ammunition or barrles for different strength shots/etc. meaning the nessesity for purpose built weapons is decreased and multi-role weapons become more attractive.

  • @nicholashodges201
    @nicholashodges201 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    9:10 S/W blasters use gas. That's as easy as a small valve under the armor plating. Also considering the DC 5 has 500 hundred shot capacity in what appears to be a 3"x 2.5" box, imagine the number of shots you could get from about a liter of gas. That's d@mn near infinite ammo

  • @danamoore1788
    @danamoore1788 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    The B2 had a small advantage in that they may have had built in weapons. But still had hands. So if the wrist weapon went dry they could pickup another weapon in the field.

  • @starsilverinfinity
    @starsilverinfinity Pƙed 2 lety +6

    In short:
    Your gear only has to be as reliable as the units that weild them

  • @Maltatata
    @Maltatata Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Who needs accurate weapons when there are so many lazers you can't even see

  • @michelecastellotti1884
    @michelecastellotti1884 Pƙed rokem +1

    also, on the topic of the sniper rifle: the rapid fire mode was perhaps thought to guve the sniper a chance to rapidly repel opponents that got too close or, like in the 2003 show, gun down targets that ended up in a terrible spot.

  • @quantemwensday
    @quantemwensday Pƙed 2 lety +4

    they were cheeper than the hut clan
    when it came to weapons
    kinda impressive
    but in a very bad way
    but kinda a good way as well

  • @LoliFoxQueen
    @LoliFoxQueen Pƙed 2 lety +1

    my guess on why the cis sniper had a full auto mode could have been to give the sniper a means of defending themselves in the instance their position was exposed or being closed in on.

  • @chi3fcoupons239
    @chi3fcoupons239 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hey Geetsly I’d like to thank you for helping me, I was in the ER yesterday for an anxiety attack and while I was in my room alone I played your awesome Star Wars videos to help try and help me relax till the doctors came in so thanks for keeping me company man

  • @Steiner5769
    @Steiner5769 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    for as sniper rifle that can go rapid fire so the sniper can defend himself at close range is a pretty good option

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Sad Roger Rogers

  • @LtApples101
    @LtApples101 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Also, the life expectancy of a droid was low since they used human wave tactics, so most droids were probably expected to die before their E5 blasters broke

  • @nobleman9393
    @nobleman9393 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Could you do a Video about weapons used by The Sith Empire?

  • @williamwebb6446
    @williamwebb6446 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Bro insane but what what weapons did the droid navy use in clone wars

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Star wars weapons are so cool awesome to see the republic weapons or separatist weapons or The underworld weapons They all so cool this in star wars

  • @ironwolf2244
    @ironwolf2244 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    While it may seem counterintuitive to have a support mode for a long range weapon like the E-5S, the concept isn't unheard of. For real world examples look at the Australia F89A1(Australian copy of the FN Minimi) or the Canadian C9A1(same weapon type) with C97 3.4x scope. Or the M2 lmgs with scope mounts as well(notable for having been used in Vietnam).

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      another example would be the german FG42, the british EM-2 or (ot a lesser extent) the swiss StG57. all were designed to be both high rate of fire and long range accurate, to partially replace LMGs and sniper rifles, in adition to regular rifles

    • @ironwolf2244
      @ironwolf2244 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 That is true. (The FG-42 is actually one of my favorite firearms).

  • @andrewbutton2039
    @andrewbutton2039 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    B2's are heavily armoured versions of the B1's aren't they? I would think they could simply swap their entire arm out, or there may be a concealed blaster gas refill port in the elbow or forearm. Perhaps both, swap arms for quick reloads during battle, and use the port to refill the arms before it gets rotated back around as a replacement/reload for another droid.

  • @AsianGanyu
    @AsianGanyu Pƙed 2 lety +9

    "This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!"
    (It’s the dislikes when I made it)
    Edit: Help there are nine now

  • @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
    @FirstNameLastName-tg3rc Pƙed 2 lety +2

    As to how the B2s reloaded, maybe they had some automatic reloading system in their arms? Or just had lots of ammo.

  • @Mizzle420420
    @Mizzle420420 Pƙed 2 lety

    Imma say it again, this the best starwars channel hands down

  • @ShredGod7404
    @ShredGod7404 Pƙed rokem +1

    My theory for how much ammo a B2 could carry is that in their cartoonishly wide chests they carried a set of sort of gas “lungs” where each lung filtered gas into each cannon

  • @justhumani8475
    @justhumani8475 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I always wondered why the B2's rarely used both of their arms to shoot even though most of them had blasters in both their wrists.

  • @FaultyStar274
    @FaultyStar274 Pƙed rokem +1

    I'd imagine the B2's would reload by ejects the cartridge from their arms and have a machine replace them.

  • @Bjork_Gumphly_
    @Bjork_Gumphly_ Pƙed 2 lety +2

    The cis had an exclusive deal with hi-point

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 Pƙed 2 lety

      More like Cobra, Kel-tec and Jimenez. Hi Points, despite bulk and crude in some areas, nine times out ten work. If you want cheap, reliable and don't want Hi Point, there is always the former Soviet bloc.

  • @Jabba232
    @Jabba232 Pƙed 2 lety

    an interesting looking into something I hadn't thought about before, great job!

  • @Gustav_Kuriga
    @Gustav_Kuriga Pƙed 2 lety

    I'd point out that the rapid fire mode for the sniper isn't meant for long range engagements, but rather if the sniper's location is under direct attack from close range. At closer ranges, the precision of the sniper mode isn't needed. Further, the small capacity of the sniper rifle is only an issue if it were a designated marksman weapon like a Dragunov (meant for squad integrated support), rather than as a specialized sniper weapon at extreme ranges for use in a role more meant for eliminating important battlefield commanders, which is what I believe it was meant for. In this case having a large capacity isn't all that useful, as if you miss the target then having additional shot capacity won't mean much as the target will just take cover and attempt to get away while calling down supporting fire on the sniper position. Most modern day bolt-action sniper rifles have 5-round magazines.

  • @michelecastellotti1884
    @michelecastellotti1884 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    well, actually, lets say that B2s blasters had the same capacity as an e5. that would put them at either 1000 shots if two muzzles shared the same clip or 2000 if each muzzle had its own, i dont think that they would've needed much reloading my guy, even if they lasted longer than expected XD

  • @agentiq007
    @agentiq007 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    It seems like the droid weapons don't suck all that much when used by droids. They only realy suck when used by organics, which makes sense and its not a big problem. They aren't amazing, but heck, they are cheap and expandeble, they fit the droid army perfectly.

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert Pƙed 2 lety

    3:32
    Droid 1: "Ahh crap it happened again."
    Droid 2: "What happened, did your blaster get jammed?
    Droid 1: "No, even worse. It overheated and welded itself to my hands."

  • @herobane6488
    @herobane6488 Pƙed rokem +1

    I think the reason the E5-S had a machine gun mode was _in case_ the droids were caught at their nests, as like a bugout mode.

  • @kylerbritton7830
    @kylerbritton7830 Pƙed 2 lety

    The sound of your intro brought me back to the days of my childhood

  • @chandlercarpenter9740
    @chandlercarpenter9740 Pƙed 2 lety

    I came up with a solution to the amniotic problem a little bit ago basically Amazon drones takes the needed parts and lid it into slots of the b-2 and for the e-5 heat issue I think that you could wear gloves like those worn by metal workers

  • @kieranh2005
    @kieranh2005 Pƙed 2 lety

    E5s sniper rifle.
    My opinion is that the E5s was designed as a dual purpose platform- sniper rifle and squad automatic weapon. I know, the two are almost mutually exclusive, but we're talking blasters here, and stranger things have been done in RL. As you noted, it doesn't have the cooling problems of the E5, it may have longer range than the E5, and it's more efficient to have one thing do two jobs, especially if the difference is in a simple position switch, some software and external accessories (no scope system if issued as a SAW)

  • @DJ-kp7mf
    @DJ-kp7mf Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I got to say the E5 overheating is actually ingenious. It's not going to cause any problems for the droids for the most part, but will for any Organics like for example clones partisans the or like, Who try to use captured E5.
    Enemies capture your blaster weapons too bad they're not droids there not going to be able to use them effectively lol.

  • @nitebones1
    @nitebones1 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    i think with teh B2 it would be posable to have teh ammo stored in the body, making it is a "practicly" bottemless as instead of the normal mag size which is like 400 bolts, you got a good chunk of a already chunky droid where you could have the bolts

  • @danielhouse897
    @danielhouse897 Pƙed rokem

    For the b2 reloads i think they had a reloader built in that had a few extra clips or canisters for the blasterz

  • @geraldhuff7413
    @geraldhuff7413 Pƙed 2 lety

    For the E5S full auto mod the cis where probably going for the strategy of accuracy by sheer volume of fire. Like with the gau 8 avenger mounted on the A-10 worthog.

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh Pƙed 2 lety

    now that there is talk of organic seperatist using their weapons Geetsly should make a video on the seperatist organic military units. A question I always had was that Count Dooku was the leader of Serenno so was there a Serenno army that Dooku used?

  • @georgefeser6483
    @georgefeser6483 Pƙed 2 lety

    Cool. Like the Kalashnikov and the DVD "Draugonauv"

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Separatist Droids Army: Quantity over quality shall be the order of the day!
    Grand Army of the Republic: THAT'S NOT RIGHT!

  • @KronosCuteTiger
    @KronosCuteTiger Pƙed 2 lety +1

    You also need to take into account Palpatines plan, the droids wernt ment to win, they were ment to prolong the war. I think the droid weapons were very carefully selected.

  • @kirkbolas4985
    @kirkbolas4985 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I like these SW weapons videos. They need not be limited to just small arms either. How about a “vs.” style video comparing and contrasting the weaponry of opposing tanks, fighters, picket ships, capital ships, field artillery, etc. between opposing factions
GAR vs Seppies, Empire vs Rebel Alliance, etc.

  • @chrismc410
    @chrismc410 Pƙed 2 lety

    A tube with a grip...it worked very well for the Sten and Grease Gun

  • @vojtechpribyl7386
    @vojtechpribyl7386 Pƙed 2 lety

    You don't run out of energy weapon ammo if you have a built-in generator. The built-in blasters could be AFAIK recharged when the droid recharged it's own batteries.

  • @anthonyschlessman1848
    @anthonyschlessman1848 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    The sniper is amazing tho, it retains its accuracy really well in automatic mode, if used in bursts

  • @scorpiovenator_4736
    @scorpiovenator_4736 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +1

    The seperatist army is the definition of quantity over quality

  • @gidi3250
    @gidi3250 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Personally I think the wrist lasers are powerd by the droids core that also powers it's body and when it would reload it holds up it's arm to help with cooling the barrels since even in the real world if you put enough stuff down range fast enough the barrel will turn red hot and either start burning or bending or both. As for the rockets yea sounds like a once of deal for once it's out of ammo the droid needs to find ammo itself or someone or something needs to reload the droids rocket ammo. And another reason why some droids might stop shooting while other droids would be out of ammo can be chalked up to the droid using up most of it's energy and can't or doesn't want to use up it's last bit of power that's still powering the droid as we know the droids can melee attack so it might resort to a charge closer to the front line to try to hit someone but since charging the enemie frontline would most likely end it's life but a clone shot or a Jedi lightsaber.

  • @joshuastarkloff9602
    @joshuastarkloff9602 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    As much as I love my Rebels and Resistance dudes, the CIS honestly are a massive contender. I love their military.

  • @amysargent4237
    @amysargent4237 Pƙed 2 lety

    I believe everything here about how unsafe E5s were for organics to use, since they overheated very easily. But then, that opens a plot-hole for why Padme (an organic human) used one without issue in The Season 1 episode of The Clone Wars where she gets captured on Rodia, and is saved by Jar Jar Binks. After all, she DID take a blaster from a droid as she tried to escape, and she DID actually use it in that episode against them, but how could she have safely used it when those blasters were so dangerous to use in organic hands? It doesn't make a lot of sense.

  • @masterqui-gonjinn90
    @masterqui-gonjinn90 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    what about the e5-c, a heavy blaster/light machine gun variant of the e5

  • @the-real-zpero
    @the-real-zpero Pƙed 2 lety

    E5 Blaster: Gets so hot that you need trigger discipline to avoid burning your hands.
    Senator Padme in a tightly-fitting white outfit: Aggressive :) Negotiations :)

  • @zirpharis
    @zirpharis Pƙed 2 lety +2

    wait, so if you cut off the arms of an B2, is he double unarmed?

  • @Justacheese
    @Justacheese Pƙed 2 lety

    I can see one reason why the droid sniper rifle was given a rapid fire mode.
    If a team of enemy soldiers like clones were able to outflank a droid sniper and reach their position, then the sniper could just go ballistic and do the old spray and pray tactic.
    And since its a B1, its not like the sniper would surrender anyway.
    Better to take out a few of the attackers and/or take them by surprise with the rapid fire feature, rather than reaching for a blaster pistol you have laying around for a close range shot.

  • @chuckrothans7535
    @chuckrothans7535 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Padme was able to use the E-5 blaster rifle both in attack of the clones and also in the clone wars series.
    I think that some of these separatists weapons could have easily been modified to be safer for organic users to use. But the empire didn't seem like they wanted to put in the effort to just adopt the separatists armory into there's đŸ€” kinda like what happened to most of the Droid army melted down to make new stuff for the empire.

  • @ibabcock89
    @ibabcock89 Pƙed rokem

    Wasn't there an enlarged emplacement version of the E-5, serving as a repeating blaster emplacement like the E-WEB?

  • @tabzaofficial
    @tabzaofficial Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great video

  • @mr.factoid105
    @mr.factoid105 Pƙed 2 lety

    love the weapon videos, can you do one on some of the more popular rebel weapons/

  • @arbiter690
    @arbiter690 Pƙed rokem

    I feel some of the Separatists weapons weren't shown like the E5c and the rocket launcher used by the assualt droids. Surely they're likely an improvement or useful in some regards

  • @dominmaj9682
    @dominmaj9682 Pƙed rokem

    SE-14 is a good pocket blaster though, we can even see the imperial officers using it

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert Pƙed 2 lety

    The E5: The Star Wars equivalent of a Saturday Night Special.

  • @HK47_115
    @HK47_115 Pƙed 2 lety

    I think the fully automatic machine gun feature was for when enemies get close to them and they didn't have to worry about missing. I'm not sure who here has ever played Star wars battlefront 2. The new one not the original. Now it's actually a little bit better than how it was when it first started. But that's besides the points I'm trying to make.
    I've had plenty of moments in the most player where I was running specialist and just sniping people out. Then I would get flint and sometimes the machine gun blaster special that I have equipped may not be ready because I might have already used it. Had I've been able to just switch to a rapid fire mode when I got Flint then that would have been way better than that special. Because special ability cooldowns can be longer than weapon cooldowns. And I wouldn't be surprised if all you had to do to bypass that was just switch modes again. Plus, just switching to the secondary blaster would give the enemy enough time to kill you whereas if you just switched to a rapid mode on already have in front of you then you don't have to worry about missing or pulling out that secondary real quick. Just flip the switch and shoot.
    This did not happen in the game. We just had the secondary blaster. But apparently it happened in Canon within the Star wars universe. It makes sense to me. The enemy flanks you and tries to take you out and then you got to worry about hitting them with a single shot sniper or pulling out a secondary in time. But instead of doing that, you just flip from single to rapid fire and unload.