What if the Jedi ENDED the War Before ORDER 66
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- What if the Jedi waited to confront Supreme Chancellor Palpatine and instead focused on ending the war so they had a more legitimate reason to remove him from power.
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Many Years Later - Luke: Master Yoda how could this of happened? How did the Jedi not realize Palpatine was a Sith. Yoda: Dumbasses we were.
fools*
Star wars has no swear words for some reason
Timur 56255 yes it does. In Empire Strikes Back, when Han goes off to find Luke he says “then I’ll see you in hell!” to the other rebels.
@James Coombs logic
James Coombs uses in that context, it technically is. Especially in the 80s when the movie came out.
James Coombs depends what context it’s used in
Mace is the embodiment of the Jedi Order’s arrogance. But he has a purple lightsaber so that’s cool.
yep straight up
I love the fact Samuel L. Jackson just asked George for one and that's why he has it
why?
@@miquelcanosasanteularia1678 He wanted to be unique but on the bright side we got more lore about sabers haha
@@fruitpigenthusiast120 I know, that freaking awesome. He George can I get a purple Lightsaber even though they don't have 1. Well hell yeah, anything for Samuel L. Jackson. LMAO
*In an alternate universe*
"Commander Fox, the time has come. Execute order 65."
"Yes master Yoda."
Yoda would have to be in power first to execute that order right? Making him the one who would be deposed. Right?
@@unknowable_sir technically yes
Better yet: have Bail Organa and the Senate issue the order.
You should have your own channel.. i would pay my saber arm to seethat
Fuck Fox he'd probably fuck it up and order his men to shoot each other or himself or somebody actually useful
Palpatine would have to use death sticks to cope with the fact that his plan failed
Wtf how did you post this 3 hours ago??
@Rome Robert saw it when it was unlisted
What 3 hours
Lol
Rome Robert we found a time traveler
This could make a great EU season The Clone Wars. Like, what if everyone actally listened to Ki Adi and waited a little bit?
I would love a what if? star war show if thats what your meaning anyways
I’d love to see this alternate timeline.
They've done alternate timeline episodes for some other long running series - although usually it's a worse timeline.
Be interesting to see a bunch of what if's play out.
@@ruawalters yes im meaning that
@@casbot71 I mean in this timeline Sheev would have it a little bit hard
Yoda may be powerful in the Force, but able to recognise someone from their _jawline and lower half of their face,_ he is not capable of…
Maybe it's a speciest thing… all humans look similar.
"The same to me, all you people look."
That’s speciest. *Ding*
@@tba113 Order 65 stated that if the Security Council deemed the Chancellor (the Supreme Commander in Chief) unfit for command/office, that the Grand Army would remove said Chancellor from office and defer to whatever command chain existed. The Jedi Council were in large part the Security Council and had direct control of the military. It is likely that the Jedi Council would have formed a military junta to govern the Republic using the Army to enforce their will and the law. In ROTS, it is clear that the Jedi Council would take control of the Senate (and thus Republic) if only temporarily to ensure a peaceful transition. That period of "temporary" could be extended whilst the Jedi Junta removes corruption and apathy from the Senate. Yoda (as the wisest on the Council) could very well have been named Galactic leader - the Galactic Grand Master/Caeser in the interim (potentially indefinitely). Mace Windu would likely have been the Primus (head of the Army on behalf of the Grand Master). Great monuments of Aayla Secura and other Jedi may have been built in testimony to the heroism and beauty of the Jedi Order. Anakin Skywalker, no longer plagued by visions and able to think clearly, would perhaps be given the title of Master, and his children schooled in the Jedi arts by his best friend Obi Wan, or perhaps the Grand Master Yoda himself. The Jedi would ensure a "safe and secure" society and at the request of "The People" dissolve the corrupt Senate and old Republic, establishing the first "Jedi Imperium", citing Yoda's resolve having never been stronger!
I mean, the same goes for most people in superhero universes. Sometimes people even get to see their hair and still don't figure it out!
Well to be honest centuries of ketamine use may be at fault as well
*Jedi take over the Senate*
Mace: “You are in this Senate, but we do not grant you the rank of Senator.”
Anakin: “This is outrageous, it’s unfair, it’s...”
Mace: “Take a seat, representative Skywalker!”
Most underrated comment on youtube
This should be the comment of the decade.
Jaela Komnena lmao
Will DeMarco lol
This comment was absolutely SUPERB. "You are in this Senate, but we do not grant you the rank of Senator."
Yoda warned them that they needed to be careful with their line of thought but the Order mentality of Sith extermination was so big that it overruled their cautions.
I never realised before that the Jedi code never stated that the Sith should be exterminated. In a way the Jedi and the Sith are similar to Catholics and protestants, they both worship the same entity just in a different way.
@@mattavery7581 And both sides want to monopolize the entity for their purposes.
@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 Ironically the Jedi don't even need to wage war on the Sith. Their lust for power and dark side influence usually means they wipe themselves out.
@@mattavery7581 Exactly, Dooku was actually planning to slay Sidious and had the Jedi played their philosophy as Last Jedi showed a lot of Galactic conflicts would have been prevented.
@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 So would the galaxy be better off without the force?
The Jedi tell Padme of Palpatines true identity and the problem is solved.
She's heavily pregnant at this time and in _no mood for any crap._
Palpatine's office then "gets bombed by the Seperatist" as a final attempt to swing the war back in their favour.
They likely patsy can be a Neimodian or a troublesome member of the Banking clan.
Padme is by this time is practically a spec ops combatant with all her experience, and if the Jedi object to her taking out Siddious with a bomb _[preventing any grand last words … a soliloquy is usually granted before dismemberment, it at least a profound expression]_ she can just blame it on hormones.
Yoda may be a formidable warrior, but even he would know not to risk arguing with a woman heavily pregnant with twins.
That plans so well constructed that palpatine would probably sense the imminent threat to his person and Just not go to work that day. To kill these future sensing bastards you need more spontaneous random stuff!
I propose They drop another zillo beast on him! Appearently they *didn’t* go extinct.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 anakin could have prevented this bullshit by just shoving his lightsaber 2 inches forward. He literally had his Saber at palpys throat but was to much of a dumbass to realize that the sith controlling both sides of the war is likely the threat to padme.
@@williamblazkowicz5587 that happened Anakin would probably be arrested and detained for killing a chancel until they saw the lightsabers and discover you're right but being a Sith Lord wasn't really a crime back then nobody knew what they were because of Jedi prevented them from knowing destroying knowledge of the the dark side doing the Galaxy viewed them as Rogue Jedi luckily Anakin wouldn't be in jail for too long he was the hero of the Republic and if they found out his true purpose he would be released maybe even give him a rank of Master
Yoda: “Execute Order 65.”
CloneTrooper: “Yes my Lord.”
Yoda: “What?”
CloneTrooper: “I mean Yes General.”
Here's the thing: Despite the CIS Generals being killed, the CIS Droid Army far outnumbered the Republic. The CIS had far more ships, and troops. The only reason they were losing the war is because Dooku and Sidious were doing so on purpose. Like the Super Tactical Droid said in Rebels. "CIS Units far outnumbered Republic units. The Republic only had a 23.6% chance of victory. " The only way the Republic could win is with the Galaxy-wide Droid "shutdown command". Without that the command, the Super Tactical Droids would take over leadership, and we would get a REAL war for once. Not some "fake-stage play" with Sidious and Dooku forcing the CIS to fight losing battles. The kid gloves would come off, and the Droids would massacre the Republic.
Meh. I’m not sure it’s ever broached in the series, but why does the Republic waste so many resources engaging the droid armies? Fight defensive battles as needed, but their main objective should have been to shut down production facilities and cut off supplies of raw materials used to manufacture droids. Without the ability to crank out new droids, the deficiencies in their designs would quickly tip the numbers scales, and the CIS would be forced to either find living combatants or be starved out into surrender.
it would not matter anyway the republic would have won anyway and the jedi would still lead the way to it anyhow.
@@rogermurph101 the question is are they willing to use living combatants for it.
Vincent Celeste I would say no. As far as I know, Jango Fett at the Battle of Geonosis and Greivous are the only live combatants ever used by the Separatists. Dooku battled various Jedi throughout the course of the war, but I wouldn’t consider those to be “wartime” battles. More just fighting against individuals who also happened to be fighting a war, kind of like when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan engaged Maul.
@@rogermurph101 I see. though that's the only ones we know of that the separatists used that were live combatants. is there other sorces that showed the separatists using live combatants as well?
anybody else think that mace windu was acting like a jerk when he told Ashoka that it was council affairs and she was just a civilian
Tea4life I do
She said herself that she was just a civilian, and looked down on the Jedi Order.
I can confirm mace windu is a dick, one of the reasons I hate going to the Jedi temple
You can definitely see in that episode how much Yoda had given up on the order
it is jedi Business tho and she’s not a jedi anymore so
They did the procedure on Rex pretty quick. So honestly since they had a bunch of clones who were stunned outside the door they could’ve like removed the chip from a few of em so that they could have a small squad of men for fighting
Yeah basically just one by one call in troopers and do it. You'd literally then have an entire Star Destroyer of Rebel clones at your disposal. But I prefer the movie version with executive orders than chips. But yes in that universe, then why not just constantly have troopers attend the medical bay under orders from the Commander.
Do what if Jesse believed Rex and disabled order 66
Technically when Rex was trying to get to Jesse in that once scene, he was trying to stand down but his programing kept taking over his mind.
If Maul wasn't dumb enough to destroyed the Venator
Imagine if Rex, after getting deprogrammed, showed the other clones his chip and was like 'oh, this is a jedi mind control chip, ahsoka used it to fore me to shoot at you, we need to remove them all at once' and they all just deprogrammed themselves.
I mean it wasn't like they were in a state of mind to use critical thinking.
@@azariyelvarro6271 that could work but you will have to take in mind Order 66 put clones in a trance like state. They would have to snap out of their trance somehow. Most clones were really loyal to Ashoka to the point where they painted their helmets after her so Ashoka would probably be able to pull it off if Rex showed them his chip.
@@AshCreeper The whole trance like state isnt canon anymore. In the show the clones are clearly very cognizant and aware of everything, Rex *knew* that he shot at Ahsoka and that Maul got out. When Maul's going on his rampage the clones fighting him are using eacho thers Names over their coms. They're just being forced mentally to execute any orders given by the Chancellor but still remain the same besides that, they're not turned into zombies or sent into a trance (Tup only acted so because his chip clearly malfunctioned).
I kind of wish they did end the war because the Republic is awesome
not really. it is a sea of corrosive acid that erodes all but the wealthiest and most powerful planets identity.
It may bring wealth, but the damage to weak planets cultures is incalculable.
The Old Republic maybe, the Republic of the prequels was a broken mess and outside of the wealthy, corrupt core the galaxy was mostly a shithole left to fend for itself, with some pockets of peace and stability in the mid rim.
The Republic is corrupt to its decaying core,it had to be replace and purified.
Yes
Ngl I think the prequels are great
Another question, what if Darth Vader found Ahsoka early before the events of Star Wars rebels? Would he kill her? Try to persuade her to come to the dark side?
Because in rebels he did offer her a chance of being showed mercy if she gave him information and Vader rarely does mercy ever. So what do you think?
I would think that ahsoka would of kicked his ass just because he wasnt as used to his suit
I think Vader could have been pulled more towards the light because he still had light in him
Timothystrings i think so too, I mean he went looking for her.
Vader wants Darth Snips for only purpose: the death of Emperor Palpatine. Ironically Ashoka want bring back Anakin for same purpose.
@@mssimomeschini3243 darth snips, lol
Hey, a little late now.
He's always later on stuff like this than others
Wanted to leave a like buuuut... 66 likes man, I can’t ruin that
Charlie Tamauie 69 likes now, and I can’t like it
Sauron The Great I ruined it.Comence order 70.
Seth Frisbie it’s treason then
I don't have much problem when Windu call Ahsoka as citizen because he is right and he is not being jerk but he is being truthful, and because Ahsoka is no longer a Jedi so she had no right to know the Jedi Council's matter.
She is a Jedi a gray Jedi
@@OnyxXThePunch shes not grey though, there isn't anything grey about here, she's pretty much a Jedi in practice
@@OnyxXThePunch But she isnt a Jedi. She left the Jedi Order. She is a Grey Force User. Force User is what we call those who weild the Force but arent tied to the Jedi or Sith. Thus Mace was dojg the right thing and denying her info
It’s not about whether she’s a Jedi or not. It’s about respect. She was no longer a commander, but the cloves still called her that out of immense respect for everything she did for them. Mace Windu couldn’t be bothered to show Ahsoka the same kind of respect despite her giving her life to the Order and winning battles for them and the Republic. That’s why he’s a dick.
Thank you!! I'm tired of seeing people that don't get the logic of that.
(Sorry for the aggression)
Anakin: (glares) "I gave you a specific order not to come."
Ahsoka: "If there's one thing i've learned from you, master, it's that following direct orders isn't always the best way to solve a problem."
Obi-Wan: "I see Anakin's new teaching method is to "Do as I say, not as I do." (Looks at Ahsoka) Welcome aboard."
Ahsoka: (Smirks) "Thanks Master Kenobi."
which episode?
The one that involved the prison break out.
@@UnitAlir Citadel
I know Disney will never do this, but my head canon is that Ahsoka was always keeping an eye on Luke and Leia.
Obi-Wan did that?
@@Holdenheroofheroes yeah I know, but why not Ahsoka as well? Just makes sense.
I'd like to see Ahsoka training Luke between Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi. But we know that she fucked off into the Unknown regions with Sabine to find Ezra and Thrawn.
Mark Layhee I get your comment and it would’ve been cool but there’s no way she would’ve known about the children without being told but even then only a few people knew of there existence.
@@tyronetyrone5265 could Ahsoka just sense Luke and Leia through the force?
Mace Windu: Commander Cody the time has come. Exacute order 65.
Cody: It will be done sir.
I believe that sidius would have escaped & tried using the droid army to continue the war.
He would have escaped, began a civil war by saying the Jedi were power hungry. Then he would have MC'ed the new chancellor into beginning Order 66. He would have won in nearly any situation if he had lived.
This is a great video! It really shows that despite all the clues given in the clone wars, stopping Order 66 was not so simple. You also presented a very realistic scenario for how the Jedi could have prevented it if everything worked out. This whole topic is very interesting.
Same. A lot of people forget that Palpatine was a manipulator and everyone was played. The RotS actually confirms that in a few extended scenes.
Even in this video he contradicts himself, but he is likely just covering all the bases to not upset anyone.
Vader:" So what were these other orders, if I may ask?"
Sidious: "I'm glad you asked" grabs violin "Oh..."
"Peace has cost you your strength. Victory has defeated you..."
The last time I was this early was when the younglings were still alive
Here's an idea to go with this scenario or a general What If Order 66 Never Happened. What if after the Clone Wars and the restoration of peace, the Jedi formed a new service corps, whose purpose would be to command the GAR in times of war. All of the Jedi who had become more militarized or who were effective generals would join this corps, rather than all Jedi in general. The members of the corps would train in military strategy and battlefield tactics.
Joshua Wells it would be cool
It would eventually lead them to the Dark Side in some form or fashion as they study new ways to use their force powers and tactical knowledge to command the battle field and defeat enemy combatants. This would then turn them against their Jedi brethren in a militarized coup because we all know that the Jedi will literally kill anyone and everyone that even attempts to dabble in the Dark Side. Then these new highly militarized “Jedi” would attempt to overthrow the Republic in need of more power or out of necessity due to multiple threats by the Senate complaining too much about their power. They’d succeed for the most part since they are the only ones with a full fledged army and would proceed to turn the Republic into a new Sith Empire. In the end it still destroys the Jedi entirely and the Sith would at last rule the galaxy.
Order 65 stated that if the Security Council deemed the Chancellor (the Supreme Commander in Chief) unfit for command/office, that the Grand Army would remove said Chancellor from office and defer to whatever command chain existed. The Jedi Council were in large part the Security Council and had direct control of the military. It is likely that the Jedi Council would have formed a military junta to govern the Republic using the Army to enforce their will and the law. In ROTS, it is clear that the Jedi Council would take control of the Senate (and thus Republic) if only temporarily to ensure a peaceful transition. That period of "temporary" could be extended whilst the Jedi Junta removes corruption and apathy from the Senate. Yoda (as the wisest on the Council) could very well have been named Galactic leader - the Galactic Grand Master/Caeser in the interim (potentially indefinitely). Mace Windu would likely have been the Primus (head of the Army on behalf of the Grand Master). Great monuments of Aayla Secura and other Jedi may have been built in testimony to the heroism and beauty of the Jedi Order. Anakin Skywalker, no longer plagued by visions and able to think clearly, would perhaps be given the title of Master, and his children schooled in the Jedi arts by his best friend Obi Wan, or perhaps the Grand Master Yoda himself. The Jedi would ensure a "safe and secure" society and at the request of "The People" dissolve the corrupt Senate and old Republic, establishing the first "Jedi Imperium", citing Yoda's resolve having never been stronger!
If so - i.e. had Anakin not intervened - and if Mace Windu (who had bested Palpatine in lightsaber combat) was permitted to kill the Chancellor, the Jedi "coup" would have succeeded. The Jedi Council "would have to take temporary control of the Senate in order to secure a peaceful transition." It would be up to the Jedi to decide just how temporary that would be. They would enforce their will (the will of the Force) with their direct control over the Grand Army. Yoda would become the Head of State of the Imperial Republic and designated the Grand Master. Mace Windu would become the Primus of the Republic. Great statues of Aayla Secura would be built galaxy wide. For a safe and secure society!
I think instead of being peacekeeper's, the Jedi should have trained to be capable warrior's/military leaders, politician's, and guardian's of all thing's Force related
they should have focused on being stronger and more aggressive when in a fight, but be able to keep their head on their shoulder's
they should have armor and blaster's for the battlefield
and most of all, they should have been more proactive than reactive in their action's to better handle situations that came to them
In Legends wearing armor was actually made illegal for Jedi after the Ruusan Reformation when it was also made illegal for them to hold many important political positions.
They began wearing armor during the Clone Wars presumably since those laws were repealed to let the Jedi fight in the war, but by the end of it they began spurning the use since it didn't really help improve their survivability and was massively hurting their reputation with the general populace (amplified by Palpatine's propaganda) as they began to be associated with the exhausting war and other negative things.
@@ghosty918 oh really
While I don’t necessarily agree with your take on it, I think the fact that you can come up with idea that you believe are better for the Order than they way they were running it shows how caught up and blinded they were by their own dogma
@@tannerskatrud7504 and that’s why the Jedi should change and adapt with the times, depending on what is needed, they need Jedi in many fields to help keep order, think about it, the Jedi were horrible in the war and the bad ones got killed off almost instantly, but the few who were decent survived, point is, their should have been some Jedi trained for war and such and it could have saved more lives and possible helped end the war
They were. (Sorry if this sounds angry, but) they were doing what they could. Why would so many train to fight if they would never use it bc "peacekeeping". As good guys, they have to accept the reality that fighting is unavoidable sometimes. Peace shouldn't mean passivist, or whatever yalls idea of it is.
I'm not trying to attack Alen, but contradicts himself a lot and gets stuff wrong. Either he didn't proofread his script, or is saying all this just to cover all the bases and not offend anyone. (the ladder is the most likely explanation).
He points out that Mundi and Windu had different insight on the situation, then uses this to label the Order as "blinded by hate". That's like hypothetically arguing all jedi say Clones as tools because of Pon Krell, purposefully forgetting Plo's and Shaak Ti's kindness.
He says something like Sheev was a was a chess master and masked his energy, then closes the video with the Jedi didn't see because they were blind, arrogant, etc., as if they knew to do something and didn't (it can't be both). RotS makes it very clear it was just Palpatine's expert plan that screwed the galaxy.
Also, though I don't blame any of you for not noticing, and I'm sorry to be this person, but CW is contradicting all the preestablished lore. When will people see Filoni doesn't want to live in the shadows of other creators and wisely chooses not to say it. (It's why he contradicts Lucas' portrayal of the jedi, goes against others' input so much, and downplays Luke's jedi status).
I could go on
I think that the Jedi should have win the trust of the senate before trying to kill the chancellor.
I misread the title as: What if the Jedi ENDED Before Order 66.
also would of been good
Maybe by Fox?
Palp will call Treason if The Jedi steal his famous line.
Yoda:”It’s treason then.”
Dieter Vondracek also yoda: I am the senate
@@dietervondracek1554 *then it treason
@@maxtube444 *The Senate i am.
COLEMAN YOUNGBLOOD23 you’re right
Ahsoka "tuh no" how generation tech says it hahahaha
The Butter dolphins controlling him again
he's a failed abortion
or kee a dee mundi
@@Johkah Bit harsh
@@AndrewMRoots A bit? no that's really harsh considering he only mispronounced a name
In one of the movies Yoda & Co talk to Palps, and Yoda seems to have an expression almost as if he suspects Palpy but not quite sure
Yes! He was like that in attack of the Clones too. Like explained here he masked his energy and how would it be okay for a jedi to remove an elected official, but also I've wondered if many senators had a dark presence around them (as many had selfseeking motives or dark side tendencies). That's why I keep saying the jedi were busy, idk freeing slaves, stop separatist takeovers, and ending the war.
Palpatine left no loose ends, used the jedi's desire to help against them, and made the system work for him. Everyone was played
What if Rex and Ahsoka were able to remove the inhibitor chips of the entire 332nd Division of the 501st, and then contact 104th, 212th or 41st and get them to do the same?
News would have gotten out that the Clones went batshit crazy. From there on, they would have been hunted down by the others. Never underestimate the Sith's ability to manipulate the public.
@@dustinmaxwell259 Well, this wouldn't really affect the public more the Senate and the outcome of the new Empire and the future of the Jedi.
Instead of a Sith dictatorship there would be a Jedi dictatorship
true, but one it would last one month, the other years
Miquel Canosa Santeularia but would the Jedi give up there power? The order was no longer what they once were. All who gain power are afraid to lose it.
Öntas Bülent Yoda would be the one in charge. He’d give up the power ASAFP
@@danieltobin4498 A very wise men (maybe one the sharpest minds in the whole Star Wars Galaxy) once said that ALL people want power. And they want even more, the more they got.
@@ontasbulent5709 Of course they would. No one on the council are really the type to want power for the sake of being powerful. Once they had ensured a peaceful transition they would certainly give up their powers. The Jedi had their faults but they are not the kind of people to launch of coup for power sake.
What if by some reason the jedi stole a venator empty of clones and ran away from the Republic so say there was 300 jedi and obiwan, yoda, Mace etc, how would the galaxy be different
Anakin would hunt them down, that many Jedi can't be hidden.
@@bernardoayres1139 He would be bringing the Clone Army. 300 Jedi aren't that strong.
One way Palpatine could deal with the Jedi council is to have a clone or a normal person under the sway of a mind trick plant a series of bombs around the temple and trigger the explosives from his office and watch and cackle as the Sith have their revenge, then he sends a message to the clone troopers who are going to investigate the ruins of the temple and issues order 66 so as they locate surivors, they are terminated on site and then Palpatine could use the attack as a excuse to launch a full scale invasion of the break away worlds.
The What If question that bugs me is, what if the republic, lost the war and the CIA won, what would Palpatine do, would Dooku merely be his puppet on strings?
Geez, That was dark.
Another great video by generation tech.
Great video and analysis, very thought provoking
Dude I prefer the holiday special over Rebels and Resistance
Lars Bruinenberg rebels is pretty good once maul and Ashoka come back. But resistance is baaaad
Lars Bruinenberg say sike right now
@@thegaminggecko1212 sike right now
Lars Bruinenberg same
How come Tups chip defaulted to order 66 when it malfunctioned? What if he attempted to execute another contingency order?
Order 66 was the only contingency order in the chip. Every other order were just normal orders
Probably all other orders were just fake
@@_coolman_8941 that's a good possibility.
_the chip executes Order 65 instead and Tups hops on the nearest ship to Coruscant_
@@brolytriplethreat now I'm imagining a mini series where Palpatine has to deal with a malfunctioning clone trying to kill him every month because their chip malfunctioned. The finale can be an entire brigades chips malfunctioning and palps has to go hard in the paint while hiding all of the bodies so nobody discovers then
"And whose to blame..?"
Papatine. Obviously.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
Of course Qui-Gon Jinn new what was going to happen he was Batman's master.
I want to see this timeline. They need to make a graphic novel of it
Imagine if Sidious didn't execute Order 66 just yet when Ahsoka and Rex arrived on Coruscant with Maul. The entire Senate would be in shock when Maul slips up when addressing his former master.
i bet sidious would order someone to assassinate maul beforehand
madhatten00 Sidious would need to pay that assassin really well and needs to be lucky
@@isaackim7675 he has his ways. The guy is the ultimate sith Lord. Literally got people to save him and keep him alive after everything.
@@madhatten00 too bad all of his assassins are dead
Great video, keep up the good work.
Damn, Yoda really did pull a "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" on the Jedi Order lol.
Last time i was this early order 66 was not executed yet
No sure if this is a video or not, but what if Vader never killed the emperor in return of the Jedi and let Luke die? I mean theoretically palpatine could escape the Death Star with Vader, because luke had enough time to leave as well
The battle would never be won by the rebels, Palpatine has Battle Meditation which invigorates his subordinates and shatters the effectiveness of his foes.
In fact the rapid victory of the Rebels is partly due to Palpatine overusing this effect to the detriment of his subordinates so they experienced a backlash
Great vid
A Jedi says to a clone trooper: "you have such a chip on your shoulder" clone trooper: "Actually it is in my head" 😆 😆
The final episode is already out
A what if?
What if Yoda got taken out sometime in the middle of the war, so the Jedi had a new Grandmaster who wasn't a hidebound fatalist.
Other what if's …
Dooku got rid of Palpatine over Corescant (he sensed that he was going to be betrayed) or Grevious decided to improvise or just during the abduction Palpatine got killed.
Dooku could have even decided to eliminate the Jedi and the republic just by playing the CIS to win (they did should've won on paper).
He could have also leaked Palpatine's real identity and either the Jedi kill him or her triggers Order 66 early in self defence.
And what if Windu hadn't wound back for the strike while speechifying but had just lined forward and poked Palpatine in the chest.?
And could be have actually killed Siddious if Anakin hadn't interfered, or was Palpatine playing weak.?
Dooku knew he didn't have the necessary strength to take out Palpatine, who is more than capable of killing Dooku using only the force even if Dooku is armed.
Order 65 stated that if the Security Council deemed the Chancellor (the Supreme Commander in Chief) unfit for command/office, that the Grand Army would remove said Chancellor from office and defer to whatever command chain existed. The Jedi Council were in large part the Security Council and had direct control of the military. It is likely that the Jedi Council would have formed a military junta to govern the Republic using the Army to enforce their will and the law. In ROTS, it is clear that the Jedi Council would take control of the Senate (and thus Republic) if only temporarily to ensure a peaceful transition. That period of "temporary" could be extended whilst the Jedi Junta removes corruption and apathy from the Senate. Yoda (as the wisest on the Council) could very well have been named Galactic leader - the Galactic Grand Master/Caeser in the interim (potentially indefinitely). Mace Windu would likely have been the Primus (head of the Army on behalf of the Grand Master). Great monuments of Aayla Secura and other Jedi may have been built in testimony to the heroism and beauty of the Jedi Order. Anakin Skywalker, no longer plagued by visions and able to think clearly, would perhaps be given the title of Master, and his children schooled in the Jedi arts by his best friend Obi Wan, or perhaps the Grand Master Yoda himself. The Jedi would ensure a "safe and secure" society and at the request of "The People" dissolve the corrupt Senate and old Republic, establishing the first "Jedi Imperium", citing Yoda's resolve having never been stronger!
Windu clearly bested Palpatine in ROTS. This is confirmed by George Lucas on the DVD commentary as well. It is only because Anakin mistakenly intervenes that Palpatine survives.
Love ur vids
Mace Windu clearly was in command while Yoda no longer was head of the council. The Ahsoka thing showed the Yoda and Council divide. Think Mace Ran things while Yoda was just around to look after younglings and be a retired helper. Yoda saw too many bad roads and it was Obi Wan who sensed the Orders bad choices too.
Yoda shut Dooku down, when the latter wanted to investigate the possibility of the Sith being active. Yoda screwed up MANY times. His arrogance led to the Jedi's downfall. But sadly, people want to give him a free pass because he acted like a kind old grandfather. Yoda was the Grandmaster of the Order. He could have told Windu to put a hold on things.
@@dustinmaxwell259 I think he didnt like what the Order was becoming and how Windu was turning. But I also think he didn t Like war but he just didnt speak up no more. the Ahsoka thing bothered him but he just didnt have Courage of an Anakin to say its wrong. I think Yoda knew after in exile he was wrong. His lines to Luke in tHE lAST JEDI. Hate the movie what some will. Its took council of dead Qui Ginn and exile for YODA TO become wise and at peace.
@@Ringking-ws7bz "I think he didnt like what the Order was becoming and how Windu was turning"- Yoda was the head guy in charge of the Order. HIS word was final. If anything, he effectively cockblocked Mace+ any other Jedi from making decisions that could have prevented the tragedy. And even when he KNEW the Jedi were going to be betrayed by those Clones, he still refused to act. He probably couldn't have saved the entire Order, but he could have saved dozens- a few hundred Jedi. Instead he just chose to let things happen, because "it was the will of the Force". That's like refusing to get off the train tracks because fate has decided that you will be hit. Yoda wasn't entirely sane.
@@dustinmaxwell259 What you seem to have is a hate thing for Yoda. Sound like Sith words too me.
@@Ringking-ws7bz A Quora user summed things up nicely for Yoda.
"If you turn the Jedi Order into a modern day office, Yoda was the old guy who lords his seniority over everyone else and keeps new ideas from taking root. He represents the Old Guard and an inability to make change until he finally retires, but by then, it’s too late.".
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
What if the Jedi had all turned to the dark side after the war before Order 66 could be initiated?
In that unlikely event they would likely torture Palpatine and maul for information and use their knowledge along with that from the Jedi archives to essentially create a new Sith order.
What if Ashoka brought Maul to that meeting so he could tell the Jedi about Sidious and his plan
Sidious would probably have Maul killed before he reached Corusaunt.
@@dietervondracek1554 they have holographic transmissions that can reach across the galaxy, they don't need to go to coruscant they could tell the Jedi from Mandolore
Order 66: happens
Kiandi mundi: but what about the droid attack on the wookies
I probably butchered his name
Ki-Adi-Mundi*
Thx
2:50 Jedi Master Eno Cordova from Jedi Fallen Order also had a vision of the fall of the Jedi Order when he explored a Zeffo temple. He rushed to back to Coruscant to warn the Jedi Council but his words fell on deaf ears. With sole exception of the Jedi librarian Jocasta Nu who only believed him due to their friendship.
It's realistic. They had so much stuff on their plate, and as explained in this vid, how can they get away with removing an elected official based on a feeling.
And sorry to be a contrarian or to sound annoyed, but it didn't "fall on deaf ears". Cordova is either an unreliable narrator and this is his opinion, or CW has messed up our perception of stuff like this that much. Jedi were mortal and thus flawed, but they were never supposed to look this careless.
Though I don't blame any of you for not noticing, and I'm sorry to be this person, but CW is contradicting all the preestablished lore. Many Jedi felt the end coming, and it's seriously contrived and silly when stuff like any arch in season 6 lays out all the pieces for the jedi to pick up to generate tension, and intentionally make the jedi look apathetic. When will people see Filoni doesn't want to live in the shadows of other creators and wisely chooses not to say it? It's why he contradicts Lucas' portrayal of the jedi, as well as going against others' input so much.
I could go on explaining all the ways this "jedi are [horrible trait]" narrative has gotten too one sided and negative
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Late post but sometimes people release videos early for patreons and can post comments before it releases to the public
*Logic has ceased to exist*
Please make video about the story of Clan Wren? From Ursa to Sabine.
Peter Yim No one likes rebels
Emperor Vader that’s why I want everything explained i don’t want to watch that shit
@@emperorvader283 how about just Ursa?
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“A thousand years of peace made the Jedi arrogant…”
Some might even say “Peace has cost you your strength, Victory has defeated you…” *Bane breathing intensifies*
Love how out of 150 orders Tup just happened to prematurely execute the 66th. 1/150 chance.
Hey, a Canon story line where Shaak To isn't useless.
Calvin Matthews I love shaak ti I hate how dirty the writers did her 😫
Could the jedi order be given any emergency sweeping powers by the senate?
If so - i.e. had Anakin not intervened - and if Mace Windu (who had bested Palpatine in lightsaber combat) was permitted to kill the Chancellor, the Jedi "coup" would have succeeded. The Jedi Council "would have to take temporary control of the Senate in order to secure a peaceful transition." It would be up to the Jedi to decide just how temporary that would be. They would enforce their will (the will of the Force) with their direct control over the Grand Army. Yoda would become the Head of State of the Imperial Republic and designated the Grand Master. Mace Windu would become the Primus of the Republic. Great statues of Aayla Secura would be built galaxy wide. For a safe and secure society!
I would assume that it would probably be possible. However, someone in another comment mentioned that after the Ruusan Reformation it was made illegal for the Jedi to hold strong political power, so maybe not
Hahah I love how you displayed Qui Gon Gin as Zeus from another movie 😂😂
Ikr I got a chuckle from that pretty sure it’s from Attack of the Titans
Edit: Never mind it’s called Clash of the Titans
The missions the nightmares there finally over...
there's something I always found strange, why didn't Sidious try to create a sith army after order 66, wich would have help him during the upcoming civil war, i now theres the inquisitors that sidious had but there like 10 of them, he could have created a new sith order since the jedi where dealt with and the law of two didn't have any reason to exist anymore, so what stop him to do so ?
we know that the jedi tried to hide the list of force sensitive children but Sidious should had a way to find them even without the list, and even considering that he dind't find them, what happen to the all of the force sensitive children? At some point their power should have wakened hup even without training and they should have been found by the empire.
So what happen to them and why Sidious didn't create a new sith Order ?
I believe that Sidious didn't want any competition to his power. Vader lost much of his potential and the inquisitors aren't exactly that powerful, but strike fear for the rest of the populus. By forming a new Sith Order there would be infighting, because all Sith want power, and Palpatine had all of it.
@@MyToranja Sidious was an expert in manipulation and could have easily created a slave sith order wich will repond to is every wich like the inquisitors and even if the inquisitors were not that powerful they were still whey more powerful than your average grunt so why not make more of them? also a believe that the power of a sith army was worth the risk
Sith are natural back-stabbers which is one of the reason for the rule of two
Sidious firmly believed in the rule of two throughout his entire rein which is why he did not allow Vader to have an apprentice, also the same reason he made Vader's suit vulnerable against lightning so he could never overthrow him. Plus after order 66 He did not need a Sith army because his enemies (Jedi) were already defeated, Sidious would never allow more Sith as he would see them as a rival to his power. Furthermore, he new the Sith Order was ultimately the reason for their downfall which is why Darth Bane created the Rule of two.
@@OutsiderOG sidious dind't care for the rule of two, he had many apprentice and force sensitive assasins not only Vador and the rule of two existed to create a perfect sith, wich sidious and Vador so after order 66 the law of two didn't have any reason to existe anymore, the sith had ther revenge, and sidious new how to create loyal pawns
he only feard vador because he was a real sith like him but could have easily created an army of brainwash force sensitive warriors and even with the jedi gone an army of sith would to great of a power for sidious to pass on
It still wouldn’t have ended well for the Jedi.
“Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”
The Jedi were so used to their status as generals of the republic that they’re we’re frightened about losing that power. Not explicitly, but it was subtle. The Jedi always have good intentions but over the last 1000 years they fell to bureaucracy.
Public opinion swayed against the Jedi. People of the republic would have seen the Jedi as forcibly taking control of the senate and republic. Do you really think the Jedi would’ve given up that power? They would’ve been tempted to keep it and not transfer power over to the senate.
Eventually the republic’s citizens would’ve rioted and rebelled against the Jedi. All still apart of the plan of the Sith. The Jedi would be the cause of their own downfall.
Damn Sith Lord.
This is such an interesting topic for a what-if topic IMO
Please make a video about Grievous attacking Coruscant and capturing Palpatine.
If genaration tech replies to my comment I'll rewatch the entire clone wars series
That just sounds like a double win
@@invictus6176 it is I just want to justify sitting there for hours
Welp.. he’s not here.. I guess you’re never allowed to watch the clone wars ever again lol
Clone Wars could have ended quickly with CIS winning if the B3 ultra battle droids were mass-produced.
Or if Palpatine hadnt held back their military in the early days they could of easily won the battle of geonosis possibly ending the war right there
Love this just awesome
There’s still 40 episodes they could do one day. Tho I can’t help notice all the similarities between stuff that was going to be in final seasons of clone wars and what became rebels. The prison on stigeon prime when the rebels went looking for Deppa Bilaba was originally meant for son of dathomir. They did a death star crystal arc, they had Ashoka stopping darth sidious coming through a doorway, like the Sith temple arc and many of the Sith temple designs ended up on malachor. I wanna do a fan film like clone wars some day.
Rebels, in difference to resistance, is almost as good as clone wars, mostly cause filoni did that too
Max Wölfle just because filoni made it doesn’t automatically make it good.
IMO its not even close to as good as Clone Wars. Some episodes are fire and as good as Star Wars gets but most of it was boring. I found many characters (Except the Jedi master and chopper) uninteresting.
This should’ve been it
6:30 to the right of Palpatine, is that....Kronika from Mortal Kombat? LOL!
The jedi was litteraly hours away from ending it. If They Could interogate maul. Remmenber there is no Yoda or obi-wan on Corusant, Mace windu would break maul under inteorgation and with Ashoka Being near Anakin mean he wont betray the council and the repulic senate would be informed as soon as this is commen knowlegde. But sidious Could Still exucute the order.. but They where hours away from stopping the sith and ending the West
I wanna smoke weed with Alan.
Yeah he kinda looks like that guy that would smoke with you
Jesus Christ the sheer number of mispronunciations...
Its cringy lol
Yeah, it's actually why I'm watching less & less of this channel. It's not just in this video either. It's the same reason why I unsubscribed to Halo Follower. Like, I can understand mispronouncing the words or names if they weren't spoken in the films & games but hearing characters say it gives very few excuses to mispronounce Utapau into Oo-taw-poo, Ahsoka Tano into Ahsoka Tuh-no, etc. The only thing I can think of that would be a legit reason is if, for example, English isn't a person's first/primary language. Alan, however, clearly speaks English well enough that I can't give him that benefit.
Oo-tapi
Ashoka tuh-no
Lololol
he actually does it on purpose because people comment about it. There's a reason he never fixed it.
Pronunciations bruv. Tubbs, Utapau 😭😂
Time to update your aspect ratio but I love your videos.
Rebels was good, but nothing will ever top The Clone Wars.
You said you couldn’t wait for the last episode of the series. It came out 3 days ago on Star Wars Day. Many people on YT have already covered it. Why are you so far behind?
That episode was great
I've just always thought it was wild that the chip was to "control aggression" and that that didn't immediately trigger alarm bells bc maybe I'm just a fool but that doesn't make sense to me and I would have wanted to investigate that on my own
Mace Windu was right about EVERYTHING... Everyone that blames him for Anakins fall excuses the whining and brooding of a brat. He was the perfect Jedi for this time period, he didn't want the Jedi to be so intertwined with the public, didn't trust Anakin or Palps nor their relationship. Stop with this coddling attitude with Anakin
Exactly. If Yoda he stayed out of it, things would have worked out for the better. Yoda insisted on the Jedi serving the Republic. He was an old dog that couldn't learn new tricks.
Your consistent inability to put the proper syllable emphasis on Ahsoka's surname feels like a troll. Same with "Utapau."
Clearly, you've seen the films and shows. You know how to pronounce these things. I'll never understand how pretending to be dumb is considered clever trolling.
0:31 I'm guessing you filmed this a few weeks ago...
I’ve always seen the Jedi order as similar to the Knights Templar in purpose, structure and betrayal. That is likely not a coincidence
But why would the Separatist Army collapse after Grievous's death? there are other generals and admirals, many high-ranking officers are droids so they will continue to fight as long as physically possible.
I think the idea is that these other generals and admirals aren't powerfull enough to take overall command. A powerstruggle will likely follow, weakening seperatist leadership. Also new leaders would just be hunted by the jedi. One of the main reasons why Dooku and Grievous were such a threat is because they could defeat nearly any jedi they faced.
I'm sure the control chips had another feature where a specific order (Order 67 or what have you) acted as a universal killswitch for the Clones...
Completely unrelated but I’m watching Star Wars the clone wars animated series episode 4 destroy the malevolence and I’m interested as to how the artificial gravity in the ships work when docking because the twilight docks by its roof to the malevolence and Anakin and Obi Wan take a lift presumably vertically out of the twilight and the room they enter has a door directly in front of them which doesn’t make any sense to me, especially because they’re gravity is perpendicular to that of the malevolence, so they’re just facing straight downward.
What if the elders of the Jedi established top secret alternate Jedi temples/ Safe houses throughout the galaxy for a situation like Anakin storming the temple?
He was able to mask himself for soo long because the Jedi temple on Coruscant was built over the old with temple and so he was able to use the dark side to hide his present until he was ready to reveal himself and turn anakin
With mispronouncing many names you suprisingly nailed the planets haha
Clone war made me realize how arrogant and unwise the Jedi were and Yoda trail made me realize you must embrace all sides of the force. that's true balance. And A Tano is always a beast.
Is it just me or does the music feel like something from a 1990's "intro to the job" video