The Real Reason Sifo Dyas was TERRIFIED of the Jedi Council | Star Wars Explained
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- Today we talk about the mysterious Sifo-Dyas and why he was so horrified by Master Yoda, and fearful of the Jedi Council.
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Random Jedi: Has Force Visions
The Council: I'm gonna stop you right there
This is subversive cynical speculation, it isn't consistent with canon. The jedi were duped, not evil. I'm sick of this rhetoric from leftist oriented spoiled children. none of the inherent philosophies of this sci fi universe are even addressed in this slightest with this drivel.
@@azurebadger "leftist oriented spoiled children"? tf are you smoking?
lols
@@azurebadger imagine getting butthurt over scifi philosophies
Donz Steele imagine being too inherently stupid to notice their direct link to real world counterparts lol. This is our culture. And this cynical childish perspective fails to define even the basics. And its no wonder. This is absolute rubbish. Its obvious that you formulate your beliefs thereby naturally. That is the direct and ironic result of your inability to understand the subject material or its critique. Thanks for sharing your feelings.
The fact that Sifo Dyas was a typo for Sidious in the original script is a fact that has shook me to the core
Wait what
@@d1mple381 Yeah, Sifo Dyas was an oops and was supposed to be Sidious but George liked it so he kept it
This makes a lot of sense. I was wondering why it looked and sounded a lot like sidious. I thought they just got lazy with naming
@@deepfriedewoks7657 yeah same
That's clever I almost would prefer sifo dyas actually wasn't a real person but just a play on the name sidious that he used to thinly veil who ordered the army.
"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it" - an old turtle
So you can't awlays fight fate. Is that what I'm getting at here?
@@linkskywalker5417 I guess it's the same as Anakin. He went down the path of the dark side in order to save padme and to avoid causing the pain that he saw in his future. It was those actions that led to his fate, in the end. If he had focused on his present actions and didnt act out of fear, the Jedi may have never fallen, atleast not when they did and to the same extent.
I understood that reference
“I don’t know!” - same old turtle
Well, had he not created the clone army, most of the Jedi would be killed at Genosis, but at the same time, palatine wouldn't be able to take over the republic so...
I'm still waiting for the part that you explain why he's TERRIFIED of Yoda.
He owed Yoda twenty bucks and never could pay him back.
He accidentally found his secret stash of kilos of ketamine and deathsticks.
Sifo can't talk with the Yoda accent.
Because the jedi were imprisoning anyone who tried to act on their visions of the future, but he wanted to make his army anyway
Because Yoda was the figure head and most influential member of the counsel and what they did to those who saw the future terrified him
The greatest trick the Sith ever pulled was convincing Jedi Council they no longer exist.
And the praise for that actually goes to Darth Zannah! She was the mastermind who managed to convince the jedi the sith were no more.
So true. So true.😞
@@KINGMANJARO_343 As they're both pieces of literature I would say that the pieces I have read claim that is the case. However,* with anything in writing* you can't nesicairily believe all of it. Isn't that the saying? Don't believe everything you read.
Who is Keyser Soze?!?!?!
@@auzziegamerfan Yes. Yes an Evil man named Frank.
6:40 "This conflict comes to a head"
**Zooms in on Ki-Adi Mundi**
I thought that same thing
All reasons why Luke Skywalker’s New Jedi Order in the OG Expanded Universe was better. He learned from the mistakes of Old Order.
The one thing I liked about the canon version of Luke's new Jedi Order is that he didn't want to take in students yet, right after RoTJ, and even he did he wanted Leia as his first student. He felt that he had to look for artifacts and knowledge about the old Jedi Order as well as answers as to why it fell first before rebuilding the Jedi by learning their old flaws. And then it fell...
@Nipha Ahtlantashah Lazy writing full of holes and inconsistencies is not necessarily a neolibral cultural Marxist agenda (whatever tf that means), it's just lazy writing full of holes and inconsistencies.
Yep. Then Disney comes along and decides that there’s no difference between good and evil. RIP Jedi :/
I still wish we got Luke's Jedi order in the newer movies.
@@Bnailling UUUUUUNLIIIMItTEEED POOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
The entire Star Wars storyline showcases how either extreme, the Sith or the Jedi, can blind themselves in their own perspective. The Sith want absolute control and power, while the Jedi want absolute order and obedience. Neither works because they are both extremist perspectives. The Jedi preach that emotions are bad, and the Sith preach that giving into emotions makes one stronger, but it is not the emotions themselves that are bad, nor what makes someone stronger.
Emotions and thoughts are uncontrollable. They come and go as they please. It is what we do with our thoughts and emotions, how we act on them, that determines who we are. The Sith let their desire guide their actions. The Jedi let their desire guide their actions. It's just a difference between what they desire. So neither side is very analytical about their thoughts or actions, and thus they are slaves to their desires. This is why the Sith and Jedi constantly keep rising and falling, because it's the same thing over and over again.
It's also why Sith rise from Jedi and Jedi rise from Sith; when the desires of a Sith don't match the desires of the Sith code, they leave. The same with Jedi. This usually leads to the other extreme, since the Jedi suppress emotions and the Sith offer a freedom of release, while the Sith suppress morality and the Jedi offer a sense of moral companionship.
Then there's the middle ground, which like modern day politics, is usually overshadowed by the extreme perspectives focused on in the media.
The middle ground is realizing one can be moral and emotional; expressing emotion does not make one a bad person, necessarily. Expressing anger may be just stating how upset one is and why. Or, in the case of the Sith, it could result in violent murder. In the case of the Jedi, it just simmers, looking for a chance to be released. In this, it is easy to see that anger is not the issue, but how anger is expressed. The same for every other emotion.
Thus the strongest force wielders are the ones who are neither Sith nor Jedi, but those who understand both Peace and War; Love and Hate.
In essence: there is no single perspective that will solve every problem. So analyze as many perspectives as possible, finding the usefulness validity of each.
very well phrased.
An interesting commentary on Sith and Jedi and the human condition. There is one thing I disagree with - " thoughts and emotions are uncontrollable...". Read 'Your Erroneous Zones' by Dr.Wayne Dryer, he, like all psychologist's will tell you the reality, your thoughts are your own, they emminate from y.o.u. , controlling them is within your power like any other function of your body. You can breathe or hold your breath at least until your body's natural survival function kicks in and you exhale. You can choose to shout or not shout. If someone tells you to kick a stray dog, will you do it if you don't want to? That's self control. We, as humans are a culmination of our choices and actions, actions that we can and do choose.
The ancient Grey Jedi had both perspectives
@@jessicaferri8289 Oh, I absolutely agree on that. I think a better way I can state my perspective is to say that I cannot control the thoughts that pop into my head sometimes, as the human brain is constantly generating new ideas (sometimes disturbing ones). However, I control how I address those thoughts. Do I kick the puppy? NO! Similarly, emotions come and go based on environmental stimulus. However, I control how I express those emotions. If angry or upset, I choose indeed whether to shout or simply state how I feel in a calm manner. I am not trying to say we have no self-control, but rather say that self control comes from our responses to our thoughts and emotions. Definitely going to read that book though. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@DarkroeTech you are right about "random" thought. It's that alot of people don't realize how much control they are really capable of. "Response" to thought and emotion fleeting is a choice. It is a great book, I read it in high school, my life changed for the better. You will be surprised how much the unknowing mind can trip itself up. Good luck.
Sifo-Dyas:
I fear no man!!
But that...thing...
It scares me
lrodriguez56021 dear lord 😂
Ahhhhhh yes
A worthy opponent
Our battle shall be legendary!
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHSHDHYFDIEIJEKFOGIIGOG
If I saw a little green midget I would be terrified as well.
Especially if that midget could flip around with a lightsaber like a madman
You’re hot and funny 😍 where have you been all my life
“Judge me by my size do you”?
@@AndrewDelgado-og6es you have some issues bro
@@AndrewDelgado-og6es Thirsty
Wait a second. The Jedi were actually right in the end: they could have been well aware that every attempts of influencing the future based on force sight could be instead what causes that future in the first place.
Ironic, by creating the army that was supposed to save the Order and the Republic, Sifo Dyas was responsible of the first step towards their destruction
Omg you're right ahaha.
When you think about it, trying to see into the future and influence on it can very well be seen as going against the nature of things. Which is something the jedi didn't agree with.
It's using the force for your own selfish purposes rather than letting life happen.
Wrong.
1) The Jedi order along with the senate would have been wiped out immediately by the droid army if not for the clone army.
2) If the Jedi council hadn't of been insistent on turning a blind eye to the future, Sifo Dias wouldn't have gone alone to commission the clone army; he would have been backed by the Jedi council which in turn the Sith's plan to install regulators with order 66 in the clones wouldn't have happened because there would have been oversight.
Everything that transpired was because of the Jedi's lack of foresight and their push against it.
When Jedi have the ability to see the future that is a gift from the force which means it is the will of the force to have it and use it.
Keen Bean WRONG. Jk buuuuut
you make assumptions like the rest of us don’t undermine others perceptions on this matter. Build on it rather that shoving yours down our throats unless you knew the future beyond dyas.
A self fulfilling prophecy
Angel Castillo he isn’t making an assumption. Without the clone army the separatists would have ran a train on the republic. They didn’t have an army before the military creation act. The clone troopers are literally what bought the Jedi time and even so they couldn’t figure it out because of their own blindness.
I believe by him acting on his visions he set forth the motions of what he was trying to stop. Just like how Anakin acted on his visions of Padme dying actually led to her death.
Same as Count Doku, he was so stubborn to learn how to fight so when the Sith raise again he will be able to end them, little did he know that was exactly what made him become a Sith
However, Anakin visions were incomplete! He didn't see what led up to Padme dying in child birth. In the end, it was actions and deeds by Anakin which to him breaking Padme heart and her losing her will to live in child birth.
@@arronfrazier7873 That's how most of the visions work in Star Wars (Like the Jedi that killed their younglings to stop them from killing them only to have that be the reason they were killed)
@@Christian-be6eg Your point is what! Nobody forced Anakin to force choke Padme because he got upset about her basically siding with Obi Wan and the Jedi. She basically sided with the Jedi. She told him that she couldn't follow him on his path because what he had done and planned to do.
Yep. I think it was less warning and more self fulfilling prophecy on Syfo Dias part. He didn't see what caused the war and the downfall of the Jedi, he just saw that it was something that was going to happen and tried to act against it by creating an army, creating the very downfall he foresaw. The force works to balance itself, it saw that the Jedi had become too embedded in their dogmatic ways to completely follow the will of the force. I hold that the light side IS balanced force, however the Jedi used the force for their own powerful position, no different than the Sith in that regard, and bent the force to their will rather than the other way around. So it sent warnings to stop and backtrack, but by the time of Syfo Dias, it had enough and set in motion the chain of events that would bring both the Jedi and Sith down. That's also why I don't see the sequels as canon, simply because the path Luke was on at the end of ROTJ was the correct path of following the will of the force.
Even in Legends the Jedi seemed to have a pattern of ignoring those among them who received visions of the future, stretching all the way back to their predecessors the Je'daii Order on Tython, who exiled the Je'daii Daegon Lok to the moon Bogan when he received visions of a coming invasion by the Rakatan Infinite Empire and tried to warn them about it, but was labelled a madman by them.
Yep. He and his Twilek Je'daii friend (someone called Ryo or something) both had those visions. The Twilek remained silent for the most part while Daegon Lok was exiled to Bogan for revealing the visions. While it is true that the Prisoner of Bogan did indeed fall to the dark side, his visions were nonetheless true.
@@KhukuriGod They were like the Dooku and Sifo Dyas of their day. If I remember correctly, didn't Kreia and/or Revan also receive visions of the coming Mandalorian War that the Jedi Council ignored?
Not to mention they over reacted or have caused the visions to become true, like the Jedi Covenant when they killed padawans cause one had a vision a red clad padawan had attacked them while filled with the darkside.
@@Spartan3D213 Since you mention the Padawan Massacre, that could have been a huge contributing factor to why the Jedi eventually stopped listening to visions and started ignoring those who have them, because the one time they did listen to a vision and took it seriously (i.e, the Jedi Covenant) it led to disastrous consequences. Since the future is always in motion as Yoda says, a vision can have multiple different interpretations, so trying to assign one particular interpretation or meaning to a vision can be very dangerous because it could cause tunnel vision and end up leading to the very thing in that vision that the Jedi are trying to prevent, thus turning it into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
@@darthgoku1580 Anakin’s visions of Padme support your position 💯
I would be scared of Yoda If I was him too he’s a mini mean green Sith killing machine
Yoda literally never killed a single sith tho
@@TeeLow facts hes 700 yr old and sith were gone for over 1000 years
TeeLow yoda 900 years old you don’t know what he did during that time
Riain De Barra there’s a lot of info actually. as grand master he denied the Sith could ever return right up until Qui Gon was like bro I’m literally looking at a sith right now
@@TeeLow Not in the movies no, because he was basically already a senior citizen by the time the Clone Wars started. Who knows how many sith lords prime Yoda killed during his 900 years.
I would also be terrified if somebody hit me with a stick 50 times while screaming "mine".
Anyone recognized that Lore Star's vdeos all consist to 90 % of the same footage, but you get always the right vibes to go with the narration. Truly, the force is with him.
Great Video ... thanks for explaining this crucial part of the downfall of the Jedi.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was a bot comment..... but for real good video
Yeah he didn't do that.....
He even used Revan's theme!
U must be a bot
I think they forgot that when questioned about Sifo-Dyas, Jango Fett didn't know anyone by that name, he said it was recruited by someone named Tyranus, as in Darth Tyranus A.K.A. Count Dooku. What I gathered from that is that Count Dooku commissioned the cloners to make the clone army and told them that he was Sifo-Dyas, it was also established that Sifo-Dyas was killed some time before the clone army was commissioned in the holo transmission from Obi Wan to the Jedi Council while Obi Was was still on Kamino. That's one of the problems I have with some of the Legends stories, they forget details like that and expand on thing that don't make any sense because of forgotten details.
Plagueis commissioned the army.
Not so much Legends, but more the Clone Wars series trying to make their own mark.
Wow. You had a lot to say.
Blame TCW
Dias met with the Kaminoans.... Tyrannus approached the bounty hunter. Clones take time to grow as the Kaminkan said. Dias placed the order, Dooku paid the tab, Tyrannus/Dooku met with Jengo. Perhaps Jengo would know the names of prominent Jedi, so neither Dias nor Dooku could meet with him. Thus he used his Sith name Tyrannus
The "Legend of The Chosen One" was that there would be balance in the light/dark sides of the Force. If the Jedi had all the power, how is that "balanced"?? Each Jedi Council refused to believe rebalancing would happen on whomever's watch was "now".
"This would end up being the very catalyst for the Jedi's own extinction." Sounds like the Jedi were right to warn against looking into the future, even punishing those that did, since it was Sifo's attempt to change the future that actually doomed the jedi.
The same thing happened to Anakin. He tried to change the future he saw, ended up making it come to fruition through his own actions.
Qui Gon was right all along
@@linkskywalker5417 and Yoda
That's the whole point of the movie "Paycheck." If you know the future you'll just end up causing it to happen by trying to change it.
5head
Except it was only rejecting his visions that created the issue in the first place, if they didn't reject the sith existing, dooku wouldn't have changed sides (meaning he wouldn't have corrupted them) and the clone army would have been made with more safety.
This video is called “why he was terrified by yoda” not the Jedi council or Jedi as a whole or even what led him too make the clone army. Don’t get me wrong GREAT video my guy but dude rename this click bait 💯😂
I think yoda s kind are probably dengours because the mandalorian show baby yoda almost killed same one
Right? LOL! But in all fairness, Yoda was the leader of the Jedi Council and probably enforced the idea of focusing on the present and not the future.
The title and thumbnail is definitely clickbait! Too bad, its a well produced video.
There is a novel about Dooku that explains why Yoda is to be feared Dooku tries to turn Yoda to the dark side and just for shits and giggles Yoda shows Dooku what dark side Yoda would look like and scares the hell out of him.
Click bait anyone?
One small problem I see with the prison is the fact that if they imprisoned Jedi who went against the Council then why in the Dark Side of the Force did they allow Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan go free when they explicitly went against the Council by choosing train Anakin, and Qui-Gonn was well known to go against the Council anyway.
Maybe cause his master dooku was in the counsel and be was a well respected jedi master. And they didn't consider qui guns thoughts as being to radical enough to warrant a arrest.
@@Spartan3D213 or maybe because this new books are bullshit, and include a bunch of nonsense. Yoda subscribes to the Unifying Force which is all about the future, and seeing how to best tackle a situation to do the most good possible in a large scale, as opposed to the Living Force which is the one that Qui gon subcribed to, that concentrated on doing good on the moment even if it brings further evil down the road.
This makes me wonder if Tup’s inhibitor chip failing was willed by the force so that the jedi would see order 66
In answer to your question: Yes.
It's mind-boggling that no Jedi Master knew the definition of the word "Balance", in the context of Anakin bringing "Balance to the Force". At that point in history, the Force was entirely unbalanced in favor of the Light. So, that could only mean that he would either raise the Dark side up to equal the Light or he would decimate the Light to the point of near non-existence to match the Dark.
Not understanding one word is what led to the destruction of the Jedi Order. Way to fail, Masters.
Anakin brought about the destruction of the Jedi and the Sith. Thereby balancing the force.
@@arklados3596 Exactly, which isn't a desirable outcome for Jedi who were so prevalent throughout the galaxy. Well, the Sith part yeah, but not the Jedi part :D
Nonea Yourbusiness Star Wars lore is epic
Your comment is as sensible as saying that the body must have just the right amount of cancer to be balanced or that society must have just the right amount of murder and theft to be balanced. No.
The light side is balance. What unbalanced the Jedi is thinking they could ever be purely light. They ignored the reality that we all hold dark urges. They suppressed rather than acknowledging and dealing with such emotions. Yoda learned that very fact when he faced his own inner darkness in the episodes with the Whills to learn the ability to become Force ghosts.
The balance is not in having just the right amount of disease in your body. Its acknowledging that we can't ever get rid of disease and thus must take proper steps to keep healthy.
@@madhatter1057 You're confusing the "Right amount" by a societal standard and the Balance in the Force itself. The Force doesn't care about societies. It cares about balance, and that balance comes in the presence of both light and dark. So at a time where the Light Side vastly overpowered any presence of the Dark, a "balancing" event would only ever be detrimental to the Light or supportive of the Dark (neither of which the Jedi would ever want to happen).
That said, just like death being a necessary part of life and fires being necessary to trigger regrowth of forests and such, I'm wondering if a truly over-abundance of Light Side wasn't actually a bad thing, even if it benefited Jedi as a society. But that's more of just a random thought :)
The Jedi were bang on. It was his visions that made him commission an army. An army that essentially wiped the Jedi out. His visions wouldn't have came true without his own influence.
Great video btw.
Darth Tyranus had Billions of Droids ready to destroy the republic.
The republic had no army.
Without the clone army the destruction of the jedi and the republic would have been far far sooner.
@@Ockerlord But without the clone wars, Senator Palpatine wouldn't have the excuse to make himself Supreme Chancellor Palpatine. Checkmate.
@@iamblight707 Because a Sith needs an excuse to rule after conquest. I guess :D
@@Ockerlord If the people of the republic had nothing to fear, they would have no perceived need for an oppressive militaristic regime. Fear is the tyrant's most powerful weapon, in star wars....and real life.
everything is pointing to a paradox here, the jedi council was actually right to do nothing IMO, Sifo dyas dark visions about the future is basicly what brought the dark future into existence, if he would not have worried about it and just dont care then the sith would have a harder time to resurface and the sith wouldnt have a whole clone army to back them up.
hmmm.....a very interesting point and acute observation
However, should the Jedi have truly taken the warnings seriously, the sith would not have been able to take control over the clones as easily
That doesn't even make any sense
@@randyblack2687 in what way? some constructive critism would help :)
No cause dooku already had a massive droid army ready to go which is why the jedi ended up even needing the clones in the first place
Perfectly stated.
The Dark Side never clouded anything; it was Yoda's view of the Force that clouded & inhibited his abilities.
Getting involved in politics was the Jedi's biggest mistake
Exactly
Politics is exactly what happens to every police chief, politics corrupts from the top down, not the other way around. People without power preaching politics are labeled insane and locked up for their safety or ridiculed to the point everyone believes them crazy and pays them no mind.
Ruusan reformation is what killed the Jedi. Before that , jedi were autonomous and even could be the chancellor. I think it was bane who said the jedi stopped listening to the force and started taking orders from the senate are what doomed the jedi.
No, it wouldn't have changed anything. There is a constant in Star Wars' visions that nobody inuniverse and many outside don't get: the Force visions are often a description of what will happen regardless of choices, that is: the people's choices to avoid what the visions tells are often what leads to the vision happening. The best examples are found with Anakin's dreams of Padmé and Shmi dying, Ezra's visions of his parents, Luke's vision of his friends in danger, etc.. These are some of the many visions inside SW which don't give a 'this MIGHT happen', but 'this WILL or IS happening'. The Force is revelatory in these moments, not an adviser.
everyone is blind by jsut hating tehejedi, so they cant even see this as truth
Visions show what will happen but not how they happen. The wariness of the Jedi is not unjustified, like all time travel stories, trying to prevent something to happen may end in something even worse happening. Focusing on the now is not wrong, if you try to make the right choices in the present, chances of a dark future are reduced. The problem with that idea comes when your arrogance prevents you of doing the right thing.
I'm not so sure it's guaranteed to happen, otherwise what would be the purpose of the force revealing the future to those capable of channeling it. I think the cosmic force is said to have a will and be guiding hand/force. I think the visions are more of a test. The future is revealed but it can be changed. It just so happens that all of those have failed.
OR You're right and the force is merely showing the future so people know there "place". To ensure that things happen as the force wills it. Kinda what Ashoka says to Ezra in the world between worlds. it gives people purpose to fulfill the greater plan
Well this is proven by Sifo Dyas and this video too, because by trying to prevent the downfall, he gave the exact weapon required to do it to the Sith...
@@Bigby-von-Wolfburg exactly. How should we praise sifo's ideas when his preventive measures were exactly what led to the end of the Jedi order and the rise of the sith?
Jedi censorship lead to its downfall.
Zhào Liǔ lol what?
@Zhào Liǔ or republicans on certain topics. Both party censor and advocate for free speech. It just depends on the issue. That being said.
It's a STAR WARS video. Leave your political bias at home where it belongs.
@Zhào Liǔ USA democrats and Republicans are more like the Jedis thar use green vs blue lightsabers. They disagree most of the time but aren't the real enemy of both. The real enemy is the Sith with their red lightsabers, equivalent to our world as the totalitarian fascist regimes.
Both dems and reps do occasionally slips into becoming closer to the totalitarian fascist.from time to time.
@Zhào Liǔ funny coincidence that Anakin is more like a Dem and Obiwan is more like. rep
Gee...when you put it into perspective, it was the Jedi's own fault that most of them were wiped out.
You open the door for New paths through a complex world, good job dude.
The truly interesting thing about the history of Star Wars is that the Sith did not destroy the Jedi the Jedi destroyed themselves. In their ignorance they chose to silence those with concern instead of listen to them doing this they inadvertently caused their own destruction. This should serve as warning to us as well to not silence those with concern just because their concern seems outlandish or makes us uncomfortable.
True, While the Sith manage to destroy themselves often enough, they only ever managed near total victory over the Jedi the time the Jedi were blinded both by a milennium of peace AND prearranged Dark Side "Murk" until it was too late.
If the jedi ahd, at elast in aprt, stayed actually vigilant, or if they dont want to, cut ties with the rulership of the Republic entirely, all that would not have happened.
@@ferdinandhumperdinck165 I agree, history tends to repeat itself and lessons ignored or forgotten can be that downfall.
@@jessicaferri8289 Although, even remembering may not be good enough as it is in fact, possible for evil to overpower good, even if good does all it can to stop the threat.
True. Sadly true.
They never took the Sith seriously enough, they thought of them as a temporary enemy
Rather than a permanent idea, or a permanent piece of the force that they must always be vigilant and wary of
Like a force of nature, and like a rodent falling for the same trap 3 times in a row, they still don't seem to understand the permanent existence of the sith, even if they aren't actively alive, there is always going to be some form of the dark side somewhere in the galaxy, no matter how insignificant it might seem
And like a garden of weeds it will grow back to full strength before they know it
Sure makes the Jedi guilty of allowing the sith to resurface and being the bane of the republic, doesn't it?...In a sense when Yoda mentioning to the Senate about their force deminished and there fore doubling their enemies isn't that irony for the Jedi they imprisoned? As well
Particularly when the Sith increased the number of their more humanlike faithful after rescuing them from the imprisonment? Yes.
But then how would Bane be the bane of the Republic?
That video finally answered all the questions I had about the Jedi. Thanks
I absolutely loved how much insight this gave me to the star wars universe
5:12 my head canon is that the Rule of Two Sith at the time (presumably Plagueis and the Canon version of his Master) had some form of involvement in it.
Darth Tenebrous
The Jedi doomed them selves they got what they deserved honestly if fear was a path to darkness technically the entire cousil was at risk as they feared the rerurn os the Sith to rhe point they silemected the very ppl that could have aoded them and foced the Choosen one to turn
Fuckin anakin apologists. Tell that to the younglings
Spelling hard
They fought so hard to try to prevent the darkness they seemed to have forgot how to be the light.
“Use caution when hunting monsters, that you did not become one yourself; for when man stares into the abyss, the abyss also stares into him.”
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Great video. Very well explained. Glad I found your channel!
Star wars, Harry Potter and a few others have such untapped potential! I enjoy listening to the videos of the lore in these universes more than reading the actual books! Great video!
I'm gonna have nightmares from when Yoda smacked R2-D2. I tried to forget that..
In my opinion the only " Jedi " That was good was not even a jedi but rather A padawan
Ahsoka Tano
Kenobii
@@AceNunes52 I said jedi not god
Didn't she go on to be a grey jedi? Thus no longer a padawan? technically?
@@spartanwar1185 yes she did but I mean back when the order was a thing and she was there
@@spartanwar1185 Nah, she was a citizen.
These details in the story are why I love star wars so much. Great video!
Helped me a lot thanks so much now I understand a lot more than I used to and I think I’ll look a lot further into these kind of things
too much light or too much dark have equal effect, you can't see nothing, this is why the people who bring balance to the force are both evil and good, an skywalker following the sith path and a palpatine as Jedi
That’s a great analogy if only the new sequels didn’t suck so hard
@@blasen_schlampe1108 thank you, I agree with you, I felt bad cause they didn't use this resource, was there, but ...
Adr ah yes legends. That bitch Kathleen or whatever her name is said they didn’t have any source material to go with
The balance to the force was never having good and bad. It was about destroying the Sith and ending darkness to the galaxy. That is the true balance.
@@crapObear2323 that's not balance, that is crush darkness. There is not light without darkness nor darkness without light.
Nothing nor no one is completely good or completely bad, when they speak about bring balance is cause there is more darkness than light, more siths than Jedi.
Darth Vader is the first acepting the duplicity of his actions and this mkes him strong enough to take down the emperor bringing balance.
But hey is your opinion and I respect it.
This proves that the sith where right all along. The jedi where arrogant and corrupt.
maybe, but the sith are still psycho murdrers
@@chille-ql4ry You are correct. The sith are not without their....many flaws. Betrayal, deception, murder and domination are traits that all sith share.
Revarus Maldar and yet they still live bruh, how?
The thing is: the force finds balance. It isn't about who is right or wrong, it is about what happens to restore balance as scales tip.
@@stinkyblood12345 and yet I see the jedi doing those same things.
Even though the title and video card don't match the topic discussed. I must say I've really enjoyed a series of your videos.
Keep up the great work.
A vital piece of analysis, crucial in understanding why the Jedi fell, as its not just about Anikan
There are a lot of reasons I'd be a jensaarai in that universe...
I'd rather be a member of the Blackguard who are essentially dark grey jedi.
The Jedi turn out to be another example of the saying, 'The Road to H*LL is Paved with Good Intentions.'. They started out on a good path then became fearful of that which made them great. They got what they deserved.
And your starting to sound like a separatist!!
@@niccomakk Nah, Just a Grey Jedi.
First bit of constructive sense I,ve seen or heard of in all my puff about Star Wars history n lore..thanks for giving your story height and tone /pace ..luv,d it.
Thanks. Very well thought out and researched deep dive into reasons the way things played out the way they did. Great work on explaining the timeline of events and the characters roles in the story.
Sifo played into the visions as you said it, “was the catalyst for the downfall. “ if sifo would have followed his training and not built the army, the Jedi would still be around to counter threats like the sith. Vision of the future equate to a fixed position, free; ensuring its outcome. Yoda knew to focus on the present, deal with things as they arise. Watch DEVS, it’s an interesting series.
Darth Tyranus had Billions of Droids ready to destroy the republic.
The republic had no army.
Without the clone army the destruction of the jedi and the republic would have been far far sooner.
Random Jedi have a vision while sleeping,
The Jedi council: Wait that’s illegal
This is an excellent video! It really goes to show how much better you can make a video when the narration is good. There are too many people who make videos similar to yours who don’t sound interested at all lol
Definitely learn some new information from this video kudos
"Ohhh, what's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything?" ~ The Oracle
Wow great job, I agree with you. And I believe that the Jedi ( especially the ones like Mace were as selfish as any sith) they took force sensitive children against their well ( yes they told the parents it was for the best but for who?) they had a ridiculously rigid way of thinking! And there Own arrogance helped to destroy the order. Ironically the force sight they feared would have been a great tool to help them to realize a Sith Lord was sitting right across from them
Interesting video! I never really understood this part of star wars. Thanks for explaining!
Great lore! Made a lot of stuff clearer! Thanks!
Man... This is why I prefer the Sith, they don’t really hide their misdeeds.
The Light Of The Lantern, I said they don’t really hide their misdeeds not they’re spotless
The Light Of The Lantern, in the Rule of Two era that is the best strategy but before that they didn’t really care, I’m talking about the True Sith Empire from SWTOR not Revan’s or Exar’s Sith
Yeah, big drawback is that they usually destroy each other. I guess that's how the force balances itself when it comes to the Sith because they should have ruled the galaxy a dozen times over if they didn't do so much back stabbing.
I think the sith are the good guys is the jedi who are terrible
@@badreedinedjellali1328 no, the Sith are not good guys, one need only to look at their actions to see that, entire planets have burned just because a Sith felt like it, the Jedi are generally arrogant to a fault, but almost never actively malicious
If Yoda looked like that on thumbnail no wonder Sifo would he scared!
That stuff is scary! I wouldn’t go near yoda if he looked like that!
Thank you for that bit of information
This was an incredible video and source. I sure hope there is a project on this someday
Didn’t even know that he feared yoda
There’s an old saying that the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing people he doesn’t exist. With that said I don’t think anything could’ve helped the jedi since the prophecy and visions detailed a possible outcome that was, in certain ways, already sealed.
The strongest thing that cemented the whole situation was their stubbornness. So yeah nothing could’ve saved them. It was their time
"Comes to a head" jump cut, I'm dead.
You may be right good sir. It never really explains master sypho in the clone wars, but this gives great insight into the future calamity. Thanks again for your show
This was actually a great video to be honest, sounds like great research, well put together and the script was brilliant! You did get all that from the dooku audio book ? God I’m going have to get that in my audible account ! Just from watching this video !
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I'd be terrified of Yoda too, he basically has enough children to rebuild the Jedi Order all on their own
Love the old Republic music in the background!
Fantastic insight - Thanks!
When you silence freedom of speech and expression, you deserve to lose everything.
The more I learn about the Jedi, the more I think they have no right to label the Sith as evil.
Taking toddlers from their parents, hoarding important information and acting like it doesn't even exist, blindly denying the existence of their enemy even as they admit that the dark side is "clouding their vision". I could go on.
Sure, Sith are definitely more evil in a straight-forward or traditional kind of way. The Jedi were a danger due to their arrogance, rigid dogmatic rules, and incompetence...never underestimate how much damage can be done through incompetence.
I love you used the theme of Revan in the background
Superb video I always wanted to know the backstory of Sifo Dyas and this video proved just perfect for me
So what’s the reason he’s scared of yoda you didn’t explain that at all
Found his butt plugs and g strings
Lol y is barely anyone talking about the clickbait
@@bobthebuilder1360 right
I don't think it would have changed anything. Their willful blindness was just one factor and a symptom of their overarching issues of arrogance and dogmatism. The Jedi order as a whole is a good example of "lawful stupid".
Great video! The presumptuousness of the Jedi Council is the real reason of its fall
Wow! I actually read this book, that you were explaining. Did not finish but I know that whole part where Sifo and Dooku found those with relics, and dooku or sifo forgot which one, touched one of those relics and then he got these visions of the dark side.
Hindsight will always be 2020 that's why there is no light without dark
Uuuuuh, you can really easily have light without darkness. That's just a matter of blasting radiation into an area. Putting more light doesn't create more darkness, that's just dumb. Might as well say you can't fill a swimming pool without making it dry, because water doesn't exist without 'lack of water' as if this were some profound statement of philosophy.
Randal Jeffrey Everything that is good is balanced
@@oj3474 Does that mean if I stab you in both feet, it's better than only stabbing you in one foot? Heck, does food need to be balanced by equal parts starvation, where food can't exist unless you don't have enough to eat?
Randal Jeffrey Can you live a healthy life if you don’t balance work and free time. You are taking things in a very little sense
@@oj3474 Yes, because work and free time being balanced isn't as important as being optimized. If you're in a scenario where the work needs to get done, or you die, then having equal parts work and play isn't as important as getting the work done so that you don't die. Change the scenario and the ratio changes. If you're classical needs are met and work is largely accomplished, then play and free time is a necessity to reduce stress. No, just having equal parts of each does not mean you're fine in all cases. Likewise it's idiocy to claim you can't work without not-working, a scenario in which you are always active and have no free time is entirely possible. In america such is the standard.
And theres the loophole. If he didn’t listen or follow his forsight, he wouldn’t have created the army that would lead to the destruction of the jedi. And we need to remember, Anakin also had foresight abilities but they were being manipulated by Sidious. Perhaps master syphodias’s visions were also being manipulated by Palpatine to manipulate him into acting on those visions in the way he did.
That is true. And perhaps interacting with those sith artifacts opened the door to the dark side just enough, just a sliver, to let Sidious in.
Was Sidious even alive? I believe not.
There is a reason why Intelligence Agencies on our planet exist, so that the nation they work for can have advance warnings on future threats. If the same can be said for the Jedi Order, I find it problematic at best that they would ignore force visions on such a dire future just because they were afraid (there is no fear) of their reputation. The very thing that gave them their powers is trying to say "hey guys, bad stuff be coming your way, you should look into it and be prepared!", and the Jedi go "Shut up The Force, we got a rep to uphold!". As for Palpatine manipulating Sifo-Dyas visions, this video mentioned that no one but his master and dooku knew about them. Dooku may have told Sidious about them when he turned sith, but by that time I'm guessing sidious was more interested in killing SD instead of manipulating his visions, after all, SD was a threat to his plans to destroy the order.
This loophole seems more like an accidental plot device then an actual loophole to me.
@@nox_cadit well whichever sith lord at the time.
@@TheKarmak "the video mentions noone knew about the visions" that we know about. There is nothing to say Sidious (or another sith initially) was not the cause of the visions. And besides- he's the most powerful sith in the galexy. Whats to say that he needed to be told about Cipher Dias' visions? Perhaps he got a force vision of his own.
Why on earth was he a danger to his plans if he was the one putting the visions in his head? If the Sepretists had defeated the bulk of the Jedi on Genosis, so what? The separatists win the war and Papatine looses all his influence once peace breaks out and the remaining jedi recruit more followers. The protracted war and the clone army are DIRECTLY responsible for him obtaining absolute power over the known galaxy and exterminating the Jedi (or nearly exterminating). Why would he kill the only jedi that can bring about the fall of the jedi? You need to rethink your reasoning here kiddo. Maybe take a minute and think before your next reply. I honestly think you could have considered all this and saved us both some time. And sure enough, he could have created the clone army himself. But wouldn't that have cast a big shadow of suspicion on him? A former jedi master is the perfect patsy.
Fantastic video!
Freakin’ awesome video man
I think when we are talking about something like foresight, we are talking about something akin to a double edged sword.
When you run about trying to prevent something that is set in stone, all you would do in your meddling is become more involved in the hastening of the event.
I don't think these people should have been locked away, but certainly people like Yoda should have been able to express this context that moving from visions of the future to condemn those that have not yet done anything is a dangerous and slippery slope.
The right answer definitely isn't locking people away, but with Jedi being so unused to dealing with strong emotions they were not well equipped, and if these ideas got out to the temple at large it could shake up the whole order and cause more revans ( which in the end, it did).
Consider this, though: the last time the Jedi got involved in a large scale war, it was the mandalorians, right? They had seen peace, but their own records would have shown revan fall because he was too emotional about the conflict, and that lead to disaster.
Long story short, while I don't think the Jedi made the right choice, I know there is more to consider to the choice they made than people seem to let on.
If it is true foresight and sees that future then yes, you can't prevent it. Every action you take actually just takes you to that given moment in time. The same with Anakin, he saw Padme dying and, without any surprise, she died.
@@groberti which is exactly why I could understand the Jedi quashing this branch, like doomsayer's.
you went the whole video without explaining why he was “terrified” of yoda, this video was bs
Didn't I? It's because Yoda would lock him in the citadel if he knew Sifo Dyas had foresight.
I thought it was very well implied. Not outright said, but obvious enough.
Let’s be real here dude, he just wants to stretch his videos to 10 min, pretty much 3/4 of all his videos. He’s just bs in general, not as good as other Star Wars CZcamsrs
Truly amazing explaination! 👏
Thank you, my friend!
Regarding how things would go if they heeded the warnings, it’s hard to say if it would really have saved them. Actively rejecting the warnings certainly hastened their demise but their concerns about acting on them were valid; raising a grand army suddenly would certainly rouse suspicions and voicing that their connection with the force was being disrupted would sow doubts in the senate.
Of course, it’s also worth noting that the necessary actions would have been less dire if they simply ACCOUNTED for the omens when they started appearing. Acknowledging the grim future as a risk to consider rather than a threat to their status.
It’s like hitting the snooze button on your alarm, the more times you do it the more likely you are to be late and the harder you have to push yourself make it on time.
Is it my imagination or are you unhappy with the actions of the Jedi Council? lol
Jedi were the bad guys, the purge was in part judtified
Not particularly, the Jedi were certainly messed up, but they weren't Sith, I mean they could've been worse, but I see what you're saying
@@jinnnloy563 tbh after I wrote that I was like "oh damn wait, they murdered children in the purge, wait nvm." Yeah the sith are evil, the jedi were the military arm of a monolithic oppressive government so they can't really be a good organization as well 🤷♂️
@@ea2631 yeah that's true
6:43 This conflict comes to a HEAD...
The timing bro!
Hey now! This book is so amazing. Thank you for helping others realize this.
The jedi deserve nothing but destruction i just wish it wasnt off the back of someone caught between the light and dark finding that he was used and held back no matter what side he choose
Giving a dislike just because of the click-bait title.
I thought I was tripping wasted so much time I could of been watching a better video
Its a good video, just the title is a little misleading
I think you could have been a little nicer about it, but it’s changed now so all is good.
Outstanding breakdown
Well done sir, thank you.
The Jedi got what they deserved. They were arrogant, condescending and obfuscated to the needs of the people they were meant to protect...
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Ignorance is the downfall of all societies, the inability to see how something is wrong and needs fixing. One could say we are there today in the world as well
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