What Oscar Piastri is doing in McLaren’s F1 car that Daniel Ricciardo couldn't
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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2023
- McLaren took a big gamble dumping Daniel Ricciardo to controversially sign rookie Oscar Piastri as his Formula 1 replacement. Now, it’s more convinced than ever that Piastri is on a path to becoming one of F1’s best drivers.
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Oscar isn't just some young driver & the year off has damaged his reputation purely because people forgot just how dominant he was in F2 in every form of competitive driving.
you could also argue the year off has taken a lot of pressure from him
I disagree. If he had joined Alpine last year, he would just be a highly promising rookie that would likely beat Ocon whereas now he's got a lot of "ring rust" & the unnecessary hassle of having a reputation of turning down two F1 teams in order to sign for McLaren.
Having success in F2 doesnt really mean much for F1, just like how there are great college athletes who when they go pro realize they are average/below average.
@@glenrobinson10 Just a correction . Oscar signed for the first team that offered him a contract that would lead to an F1 drive. That was Mclaren. Neither Alpine or Williams had offered him one. Alpine offered him one only when Alonso jumped ship weeks later in the full knowledge that Oscar had already signed for Mclaren in an attempt to save face by Alpine.
@@bjs7442 Oh? Alpine knew he signed with Mclaren already and still publicly announced he is replacing Alonso?
Oscar is one of the calmest racing drivers I've ever heard. He is cold, calm and collected and internalises emotion under stress very well.
For a rookie, he’s doing brilliantly. None of the typical mistakes so far.
Because he’s had well over 100 hours in a f1 car thanks to Alpine. The learning curve isn’t the same as a average rookie
@@groundhabit6408 but he hasn't raced in motorsport for 16 months prior to this season. Yeah he's done fast laps but hasn't had race experience for such a long time.
What are you talking about,he didnt done nothing special in 3 first races
@@stantory1822 not doing rookie mistakes is also "doing something". No one expected him to lead the WDC in this bucket in his first 3 races. But if you actually look at his races, he's a great rookie.
@@henrywilliams4170 doesn’t mean a thing when you use their sim and their vehicle. Who do you think will do better , a rookie pilot that has 100 flight hours and hasn’t flown in 16 months or a rookie pilot that has zero flight hours ? Use your head. The experience will always allow you to do better over the average no matter how long it has been
It’s weird how McLaren signing a driver who was out of contract as ‘controversial’. It’s only controversial because alpine are acting like an ex who was given all the warnings and still acted surprised when they got dumped (Webber and the team had repeatedly asked for contract talks and something more than the ‘we agree to sort a contract for you’ which alpine thought was a contract)
Alpine (Renault) has had sooooo many junior drivers, and none of them made it to the grid. Their current lineup is a former Red Bull junior and former Mercedes junior.
Hubert (rip) was probably in with the best shot because he was flying in his 1st season in F2, and grew up around Leclerc/Gasly and they even rated him very highly, but other than him... Zhou is the only one who's made it and he's not even in the team and Alfa (Sauber) has him in for $ reasons. He's gone as soon as Audi takeover fully, most likely.
Exactly. Only people who have no idea what was going on should feel it was controversial.
He needed to take care of his career, waiting by the sidelines has been the death of known drivers so even someone with his junior record could be forgotten. They didn't give him assurance before the contract ended so he did what was right for him.
Biggest difference is that Piastri is a very cerebral driver. Daniel drives by feel. When the car is good, Daniel is extremely quick, but Piastri should be able to help them develop in the right direction.
Just realized that Piastri, much like his manager Mark Webber almost two decades ago, scored his first F1 points in his home race..and a very chaotic one at that. Kinda cool thing to see happen.
He shoulda been on the grid after his F2 win. He's clearly a proper talent. I love Norris as a driver and am so intrigued by this battle in the same car by the 2 biggest young talents in F1 currently over the next 2 seasons; this season is more Piastri settling into the team and sport.
He's made 0 rookie mistakes so far, while keeping up a good pace with Lando. 3rd race and he's already doing a solid job as a 2nd driver, impressive. Can't wait to see his pace with a better car and his development in a few years.
The McLaren *will* get better as the year goes on. Will it be good enough to challenge Aston or even Renault? Probably not, but we'll have a better picture then how he fairs compared to Lando.
If Lando is getting like 8th or 9th and he's down in 15th, that's not great. But it could be vice versa and he's outpacing Lando (though prob not realistic), or they could be 9th/10th. When the car is slow, its really "can we beat the Williams and Alfas", so its not a great picture. Its why it took until Mick getting KMag as his teammate to show how far off the pace he was, because he looked amazing next to Mazepin.
Lando is already on notice
I need to see more clean races for Piastri. This season has been pretty off for McLaren in general and of course all of us are waiting for these alleged upgrades for Baku to allow us to really see a Lando v Piastri v Riccardo in absentia race.
I think we all want to see him have “some more clean races” before we can properly revue his performance and ultimately sign him off as “approved” ..
(Although McLaren evidently don’t intend to criticise Ricciardo’s previous performance) I still feel getting sacked for being crap is a type of criticism?
@Phil Tucker I don't expect miracles from a rookie every race or anything but getting in the points is something the car is capable of, so we hope, and hopefully more often than not, it's new driver, so we hope.
These upgrades will not be enough to even complete with what others had at pre season testing. We will see McLaren as a back marker this season, only saved by their drivers. Sure they got talent but talent only gets a boat so far.
Are you the Baku upgrades, Garrett?
It's a great shame for me that we didn't get to see Fernando and Lando as teammates for One season at the very least. I know the car wasn't amazing but it would have been a nice indicator of the Old vs New debate.
They were teammates when racing the 24h of Daytona in 2018, racing for Zak Brown's LMP2 team. That was the only time we got to see Fernando and Lando together (excluding a few F1 practice sessions in 2018).
A Lando v Nando driver pairing would've been phenomenal. Hopefully we get to see it in some form or the other again though.
Given that he was generally slower than Sainz in 2019, I think Alonso could've comprehensively beaten Lando that year.
@@mahinabbasi5268 At Daytona the opposite was the case . Lando took the car from 10th to 1st in his stint. The American reports were all about how fast Lando was and he was only 18.
@@mahinabbasi5268 I like Alonso, but I honestly think Sainz would be faster in equal machinery.
@@redline589 Not sure what would make you think that. Sainz was slower than Max at TR, slower than Hulkenberg at Renault, barely faster than a rookie Norris, and slower than Leclerc.
He hasn't done anything of note with all the dnfs in Australia just wait for mid season to evaluate both
“All the DNF’s” lol. One. There has been one DNF in three races.
P8 Q3 Qauli in saudi when norris crashed out?
@@scottmeredith3359 he was referring to all the other cars that DNFed in Australia because of all the crashes
@@WaveFlightSimulations nothing to make a whole video about
@@gurkirpalgill7116 you said "of note", not a video. Not making the same mistake as Lando and getting into q3 with a tractor is definitely "of note".
What the last years really have shown me is, that at such a high level it can't be overstated how important it is that driver and car go well together.
I mean ok, I feel like Alonso can be quick in any car but almost many other really good drivers have shown weakness when the car didn't suit them.
Seb didn't like the Ferrari, Ricciardo didn't like the Mclaren, Hamilton is struggling with the Merc these days, Gasly didn't do well in the Red Bull while doing really well at Alfa Tauri, ...
This .
As much as I’m I’m a big fan of Danny Ricc, Piastri certainly looks like the real deal. DR has appeared lost in the era of the new regulations.
i just think the mclaren cars during dr era was just terrible and somehow lando is pulling the car out of garbage tier with some unspeakable magic making it look better than it ever was.
@@AntisnakeYT Except Piastri has already showed us that the car is drivable, DR is the one at fault, not Norris doing some magic
Yea but in the last season with the old cars he was also lost. And Sainz was pretty fast in that type of a mclaren. So its pretty much slower that Nor, Sainz and Piastri
Lost...Just like Norris!
@Lps ct3 5 years and no wins! It's lost.
I'm happy to see the kid do well so far this season, but lets wait till the end of the season to compare him to his team mate and others.
But how will they generate endless content otherwise?
@@Atlas.Brooklyn lol good question
yeah considering Australia was a major shitshow and Bahrain was a DNF, don't really think there's anything to compare at this point. The only legit race so far was Jeddah, should've given it at least a couple more races before making this video.
Why are people surprised? He has a junior career that rivals Leclerc and Russell, who are a tier above Norris
For such a highly rated rookie, Alpine preferred to field Ocon and Alonso instead and place Piastri on sabbatical and then at Williams, which was most curious!
@@TassieLorenzo their loss 😂
@@TassieLorenzo That's why when fans sneer at Piastri going to McLaren in the first place (and there are plenty of them sadly), they completely forget Alpine didn't even want him in the main team and didn't have a contract for him, even as Otmar kept saying they had. Loyalty my arse.
@@TassieLorenzo I think it's more curious that you think that wasn't a serious blunder on Alpine's part. At least Alonso was finally the big winner out of that ordeal.
@@RockSolitude I think it was a huge blunder and Alpine were foolish to not select Piastri as their driver in a timely manner! Or release Piastri as a free agent (to probably go to McLaren) and select Alonso as their driver in a timely manner for that matter. Either decisive decision would have done the trick! Of course, the ideal driver lineup would have been Alonso + Piastri without Ocon, most likely... Yet Alpine signed Ocon to a very long contract for some reason...
I love that Piastri is doing well, what I don't enjoy is the underlining tone that Ricciardo was "their issue" being he was the only driver with a race win after a many year drought. At the end of the day, the car didn't suit his driving style, and that made is difficult for everyone. We can praise Piastri not at Riccardo's expense. Especially since he is performing far better than other rookies.
hahaha DR delusional fan boy incoming in … 3…..2…..1 ☝🏾 🚀
@@TheDiasporaMedia actually not that big of a Riccardo fan. But go on…
What I’m emphasizing is Piastri alone is fantastic, and although Riccardo wasn’t a good fit, he did bring them their first race win in many years. So having an underlying message in their comments that Riccardo was the problem is funny. Its like a pot calling the kettle black.
The drama gets more attention than the reality. The reality is DR wasn't a good fit for the car and sometimes that happens. It could be in conjunction with him not being as quick of a driver, it could not be. There's a mllion reasons things can go wrong, or right, for a driver in F1. Trying to place the blame or the praise solely on one aspect isn't considering the full picture. Same thing with Piastri. He got a P8 in Australia, but if it wasn't such a shit show of a race he might not have. Takes more time to consider all the various factors than to place blame or praise on one reason, and people are usually too lazy to do that.
@@TheDiasporaMedia what a low iq comment lol
Ricciardo is an exceptional driver. He beat Vettel and raced well against Verstappen. The McLaren just seemed antithetical to his driving style. It's far too early to draw comparisons between Ricciardo and Piastri. We can draw a comparison in several years' time.
The comparison here isn't about who's the better driver, as Ric has a lot more under hs belt, it's about who's performing better at McLaren, specifically. I think you missed the entire point of the video mate.
@@bhargavshatrughna489 You misunderstood the video. They compared basic skills of the driver such as the ability to process information whilst in the car.
I think both viewpoints have merit, however if I'm Daniel Ricciardo, I want a new race drive ASAP. Next year, preferably. Therefore potential employers will be making the Piastri comparison _this_ year 📊. And the more Piastri lights it up in the seat I've just vacated, the less promising I'm going to look, especially with other factors being less favourable to me: age, ceiling, adaptability..
Then you’d have to say Vettel had a car that went against his driving style, since the hybrid era.
@@jimbomac555correct, just as the car in the blown diffuser era didn't suit Webber. This is the circle of life that is F1. One day Norris and Piastri will both be undone by young upstarts and so it continues.
Did Mclaren sponsor this video?
Its 3 races in and he hasn't done anything particularily remarkable. This seems like a premature conversation to say the least.
Daniel is loved by every F1 fan but his adaptability was clearly a weak point. I found it dumbfounding that he didn't take a lesser seat for '23 to prove he's still got it (i.e. Albon). I get that he needed a mental reset but to go out like what he did and expect a top team to take him onboard is wishful thinking. I think the odds of him coming back to a proper drive have become less and less likely :(
Well lets be honest, Albon stept back but will never get into a topteam anymore due to it. Ricciardo knows this as well and might have the attitude "if i can't get in a top team i rather retire"
There’s a calm arrogance about piastri I like, he will definitely be one for the future
Let"s wait till the end of the season before comparing. At least Daniel had a Victory with McLaren, one that neither Lando or Piastri have.....
Firstly, it’s way too early to make any judgements on Piastri. Secondly, how in any way is his performance thus far better than Ricciardo’s? He’s qualified 18th, 9th and 16th in his 3 races, and finished DNF, 15th and 8th (with 8 cars retired). Personally I think Piastri will, over the course of his McLaren career, achieve much more than Ricciardo did. But these three races do not demonstrate that at all.
Please make a video on Alfa and Bottas' struggles, hurts to see them like that :'l
They still have 2 weeks of videos to put out so yeah, I can see that one coming eventually.
Imagine massa went to Mercedes instead of Valteri..
Impossible, Mercedes wanted a No.2 driver, they would never had co sidered Alonso, Verstappen or Vettel, Bottas was THE perfect #2 driver
@Lps ct3 I know I would
By actually being close to Lando on track
Is he? Definitely wasn’t in Australia
@@ryryrichard5988 the video does say at worst where Ric was relatively to Norris last year
@@davidvasquez08 it’s still early in the season but I’m still yet to see anything that’s made his pace look that impressive. My guess is that he also, will have trouble adapting to how awkward the mclaren is to drive and setup.
@@davidvasquez08 Yet he’s won a race and Lando hasn’t 🤷♂️
@@AttilatheThrilla true but team orders preventing Lando from even challenging Ric and thanks to Sir Hamilton and Verstappen doing F1 car mating rituals played a crucial role in the victory
Decent start. More data needed.
This is a brilliant Breakdown. It makes me think Norris has a difficult time ahead.
While I agree that piastri has had a great start, we have yet to see much from either driver this season what with the terrible start McLaren have had as a team.
I think people de rate Norris quite heavily and I don't understand why despite him resoundingly beating the talent that is DR two seasons running.
@@Cafferssss I wonder the same thing. He is good, but he hasn't won a race yet, he lost to George in F2 pretty decisively. He's not a bad driver by any means but I don't think he's a generational talent.
Norris is in no trouble at all. He’ll be the number one driver at Audi while Mclaren are still battling for midfield.
@Lps ct3 I don’t see any top tier driver (Norris, Rus, Lec) joining RB while Max is there unless they’re an up and comer. Don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping Mclaren will be WCC contenders in the next few years but they seem to be all bark and no bite judging from the last few years.
Oscar will probably do to Lando, what Max did to Dani, but we're a ways off from that for now s o I think he's just fine tbh.
Find it interesting that it’s coming from the own team. A measure of his ability is always much more marked by another teams observations. Each team has their own biased ways to measure driver performance. For another team to not have access to data that is specific to Piastei’s drive and to still make a judgment of him being a star is either blatant mistake or evidence of a good driver that transcends the small derivative measures of technology.
P3 in Qualy, the dude just destroyed Alonso, Hamilton, Russell and the ferraris, definetly a deserved seat!
Think it’s been better for everyone that Ricciardo isn’t still in that car this year
He is looking more and more like the ice man.
as much as i have respect for your (previous) analysis, it's way too early in this season to start comparing... 3 race into the season is not enough of a sample size to be valid, as the counter is always, DR3 is after-all a MULTIPLE race winner, while LN4 & OP81 still have ZERO race wins to show for.
Until the stats, for race win, is somewhat close... any comparison to DR3 is, IMHO invalid.
it's must always be Objective, and never Subjective.
Nonsense. He’s not presenting any better a result that Danny. And he’s killed the McLaren social media with his 0 for personality.
its all speculation. there's no saying that Daniel wouldn't have been closer to lando with this car.
Previously, Riccardo drove Renault engines, and I wonder if different behaviours between the Renault and Mercedes responses tripped up Ricardo, especially with his late breaking techniques. I also wonder if the fact that Riccardo is noticeably taller than most other drivers and while Red Bull had experience with that with Mark Webber also being tall, and Renault seemed fine, but it might be possible that McLaren just never got it right for him, affecting his feel for and thus control of the car.
I think more likely it was front end behavior. Remember his “last of the late brakers” motto? He has a very distinctive driving style when it comes to cornering, which made him very fast and capable of incredible overtakes - but it also depended on the car behaving a certain way under load. I figure the Maclarens he drove just didn’t behave the same as the Red Bulls and Renaults he’d been in before, and he couldn’t find a way to drive them comfortably. Which suggests to me that he might do really well and look like the Danny Ric of old if/when he drives the current Red Bull. Obviously, that car is tuned to Max Verstappen’s distinctive driving style, but Max and Danny seem to want similar things from a car.
I suspect Lewis Hamilton is having similar problems adapting to the current Mercedes, although obviously not to the same degree (he’s still getting 98% of what that admittedly bad car can deliver). His complaints are much deeper than just porpoising. The overly forward seating position and stiff-but-loose rear end are driving him nuts. George Russell is obviously more comfortable with the car’s quirks, and that could be simply a matter of style suits the driver, too.
Ricciardo isnt tall though haha Not even for an F1 driver. Hes 179 according to himself..so pretty much at the same height as most other F1 drivers (176-179). Even Leclerc says hes 180...which isnt true lol and was ridiculed by the other drivers but you get what In saying. Mark Webber was 184 which IS tall for F1.
I mean Norris drove Renault before and started with the Mercedes the same year than Ricciardo.
So with 9 year more experience he should have done better. Or maybe he isn't just that good.
Also, he isn't that tall and I don't think that makes a difference. McLaren tried a lot to help him, it just didn't work.
I don't think it was that he suddenly couldn't drive anymore. It was most likley a confidence problem. He came in this team thinking he'd have Norris easily in his back, like most people did. Must have been quite a shock for him. Then the pressure gets higher and he couldn't handle it.
The big point is Ricciardo was employed as the senior driver to give feedback on the car in regards to Redbull and Renault, they then ignored his feedback because Lando was adjusting his driving style to make the best of a crap car as against Daniel saying it needs to be able to do x, I'm not changing my style to make a piece of junk look good.
Why do ppl do this when even Ricciardo blames himself for his performances & not the team. The guy that ppl fanboy admitted himself hes fucking up & i still see these paragraphs 😭
That’s what great drivers do, they squeeze the absolute most out of the car they are given. Sure, some cars are bad and need improvement based on driver feedback, but it’s still up to the driver to do what they can.
Imagine if Russell had simply said “this car is trash” and not pushed the most he could out of the Williams. He would probably never have made it to Mercedes.
@@javierplays9516 both arguments do have merit. It is possible and somewhat likely that development of the car favored lando, as he was (and still is) the number one driver. It’s also true that riccardo didn’t adapt well to the mclaren and fell behind his teammate. As far as him taking the fall for lacking performance, I think that it has to do with securing a drive in the future. Teams would more likely sign a good driver who had a couple bad seasons versus one that’s gonna turn around and shit talk the team’s performance.
This is totally nonsense. Yes, Daniel should have definitely given feedbacks to improve the car. However, he also needs to extract the most from the car, and he failed to do it!
how did everyone forget riccardo outqualified norris in 1st race but showly fell off
He’s known for consistency, just constantly smooth
I've enjoyed the interesting and straightforward delivery of your content. Just throwing it out there... if your channel also covered wec I'd be watching every time :)
he is doing a good job driving that tracktor, although asutralia isn't the circuit that give a accurate performance showcase but i hope he continues the good driving
Piastri is undoubtedly a good driver, not yet a proven winner like Daniel is. I feel he made a colossal mistake signing with McLaren, if he wants any chance of success. I still remember the McLaren (Senna, Prost) of old, sadly in reality, McLaren are only also-ran backmarkers now. If he doesn't make a mess out it, by trying to be hero with a zero car, he could score a ride with a winng team when his contract expires.
mclaren secured seven second place finishes with a total of nine podiums in 2023 . Daniel Ricciardo just got comprehensively out driven by Yuki Tsunoda in Australia. funny how comments age
He’s made zero rookie mistakes because he started out as a reserve driver, instead of being thrown into an F1 car without any prep. It’s also early days, his best result is a direct result of the chaos at Melbourne and not really due to skill.
this is funny because denial ricciardo was described as having very little technical knowledge on how f1 cars actually drove fast whilst oscar piastri and lando norris are doing impressive things in a slow mclaren
"What Oscar Piastri is doing at McLaren that Daniel Ricciardo couldn't"
Umm...nothing yet...
Not sure this is content, or just trying to draw an argument. Monty Python were more successful at making a room for an argument.
Mclaren should start solving other things. Drivers aren’t/were not their problem to begin with.
huh, Daniel outqualified Lando in his first 3/4 races, why are you comparing the season where he missed preseason along with a bunch of other issues?
Wasnt the car only starting to come "alive" towards the end of last season? Lando was doing the heavy lifting fighting to control the car last year all while out performing Daniel. Irony is the matrix system is making a comeback somewhat at Mclaren.
Would rather let Piastri race for the entire year before commenting altogether in its proper context.
Nice to hear positive reviews. Too often is the negatives that we focus on
A big gamble? Hiring one of the hottest prospects in F1 to replace someone who failed to deliver 2 seasons in a row?
This is utterly ridiculous, Mclaren is blowing its own horns. They think we don't see that they are doing even worse than last year.
It is not like Piastri is driving at Norris level of last year, he is driving at Danny Ric's level if not less and Norris fell down to it too.
Both Norris and Piastri deserve better.
The car is more of a tractor than last year.
Everyone is talking about drivers while the team's troubles are in management with Zak who is unfit to manage an f1 team, slaping stickers on the car is not enough, and in a subpar engineering. Aston Martin's performance showed that and mercedes struggles show it too.
They need to stop throwing shades at Danny Ric and go to work, he is gone, and they are still blaming him! 😁
I wouldnt say Piastri is clear of curse yet. Dani ric was even with lando ever so often
Yeah, at the start of last year they were pretty close
What do you mean that McLaren is "down force light"? From the data I saw from Australia, McLaren was fastest of anybody in the slow corners, second only to Red Bull in fast corners, and slowest of everybody on the straights. If anything that seems to me to be "down force heavy". Seems they have waaaaay too much drag
At the end of the day DR won a race for McLaren in a car he couldn't drive in his first year with the team
Kinda glad Ricciardo walked away. He would probably be the slowest driver on the grid this year with this Mclaren. Would be difficult to watch.
I remember Ricciardo regularly outbreaking Verstappen in his Red Bull days.
Yeah, half a decade ago was such a good time, wasn't it?
He's a super exciting prospect to watch. I'm backing him 100%.
watching this video 6 mos later and it HAS aged well. really impressive stuff from piastri
Now, I agree that Piastri should be on the gird, an excellent driver. But am really annoyed with this constant attack on Dan. Dan had to adjust to a new car going from Reno to McLaren in 2021, then adjust again to another new car in 2022. Lando already had a lot more time in the car so was able to make the smaller adjustments required.
And the fact that McLaren had decided in Nov 2021 to get Piastri and dump Dan. McLaren did nothing to help Dan in 2022 and actually wrecked a few of his races with poor pit calls and tire choices. McLaren only improved Lando's car in 2022 so it gave them a good reason to dump Dan.
Remember, after just 2 races in 2022, Zach was already bagging Dan. That is because the deal with Piastri had been done.
Piastri so far is on track to get a seat at a big team in a few years.
“A slightly difficult” car lol, that’s kind of an understatement
What's the difference? Kid wants to be the best... that's all.
He's focused on driving not smiling.
“Piastri is at least at Riccardo’s level”. Wow! Watch out max. After another three races he may challenge for the title.
🤣This made me chuckle- in no way is Oscar a bad driver but to say he is on DR's level after only 3 races is ridiculous. Can't make any comparisons until he has at least 2-3 seasons under his belt. DR has had over a decade in the sport with more than a few trophies.
Dude rants the same statement in 100 different ways
It's only 3 races so far...
Norris struggled so much...
I love this video but the only thing I disagree with is that Mclaren took a big gamble letting Daniel go. That man was never going to succeed there, and apparently can only race if he's in a top car. Outside of that Love this.
McLaren have had a nightmare start, incredibly lucky to score points at the last race.
Yes I know James Key got the bullet and the company has restructured but…
If I was a shareholder I would be asking some serious questions as to why the team is going backwards again, or why McLaren’s development seems to be so far behind the front runners???
I can see Piastri making Norris look damn expensive
Really, 3 races in, no stunning results and he's a future world champ, not until he gets good gear underneath him (and even then it's doubtful), which they failed to do for Danny and many others. I know they are different beasts but the Indy cars are ground effect yet they appear to have been unable to take any of the tech/data over to the F1 team.
Like George Russell, he doesn’t know what a good F1 car feels like, thus he’s not had to learn how to go back and learn how to nurse a crap car.
Piastri and Norris, two great talents. McLaren is on the right track back to greatness.
Funny, debating two Australians racing for a New Zealand-founded team
How about that New Zealander who won the World Championship for an Australian team? Same amount of relevance being 50 plus years ago
.PS I met Denny at Bathurst in either 89 or 90 and he was such a genuine person who loved racing, and seemed to be such a nice person to my teenage eyes
Why you gotta use a pic of DR3 looking like a kid when Mom and Dad are arguing! 😅
Piastri: I have to change my driving style to fit the mclaren
Horner: from the sims we’ve noticed Danny has picked up some bad habits from his time at Mclaren.
😂 Mclaren is just bad right now. I doubt established drivers from any other team could go to that car and make it work. They need fresh rookies
Alpine is so lucky to have such an amazing talent in their team
I know we're on an extended break, but just don't put crap out looking for a bite. You should be better than this after three races that have given us next to nothing with the McLarens aside from 'lucky points' in a race filled with DNF's, red flags and penalties.
Mad Ricciardo fan spotted
And….missing the mark entirely…is how BADLY Norris is performing this year in this version of the McLaren ‘team’.
The gap between drivers is, “Norris is closer to Piastri”…not the other way around
What is Piastri doing that Ricciardo couldn't?
Drive fast.
Facts
Riccy bros it's over...
be comfortable with the car*
What has piastri done so far that’s special? He got points by luck in Australia. Woopdy fucking doo
@@Chris-sf2cp 😂 ‘woopdy doo’
How can you compare Ricciardo and Piastri when it isn't the same car?
What McLaren is missing as a decent car and that wasn't solved by dumping Ricciardo and getting Piastri... Paint it anyway you want McLaren's woes are not driver based and their brand is on the nose no matter how many stickers you throw on the car.
McLaren have no excuses anymore, they have two world class drivers and can't blame a driver who struggled to adapt to their woeful car. Even the wind tunnel excuse ios wearing thin.
Piastri's first points in F1 were earned in Australia! He also earned it with some excellent luck from other teams destroying themselves lol.
Still too early to undermine Ricciardo with such comparison. Granted, he is the best rookie among his peers.
Clearly a high level rookie with a clear bright future and a long career, he's a bit like Norris was earlier in his career. He needs to improve year by year to be the level of driver Norris is but his potential is clear
The problem is that, in liking the fact that Norris, and now Piastry, can deal with a VERY BAD car might cause the team to keep the car bad, because they can handle it, instead of making an actual good car, were the pilots would get much better results.
Lmao what the hell are you on about? Do you mean a difficult to drive car? Cause no team wants to keep making bad cars lmao
Are we really comparing the two after only three races? Even after the last race was an absolutely shit show in which the finishing orders were essentially shuffled by unnecessary red flags and restarts? Saying this comparison is coming a little too early is an understatement.
Oh yea, despite benefitting from those reshuffle ls Piastri still couldn't match Fanny Rics result from last year.
Not winning a race like Danny, that's what he will do in a Mclaren
I mean ric was also kinda matching lando when the car was slow last year so we just have to wait until the car gets faster
Also I remember norris always said ricciardo's and his feedback was similar lol why is he changing his narrative now
They just want to make Daniel look like shit and make Piastri and Norris look like kings
I figured Ricciardo’s fans would be up in arms against this in the comments but it’s good to see people start to understand that McLaren made the right call, was best for both sides.
what if piastri is at dani's level and lando is just slower than last year?
hahaha still trying to make excuses for your beloved Prophet Riccardo lol 😂
@@TheDiasporaMedia Not the case, he sucked.
Only time will tell if Piastri can replicate that ‘it factor’ that Ricciardo had in his Redbull days
Yes, the real shame is that daniel’s redbull days coincided with merc’s godlike dominance, so he sadly doesn’t have a lot of stats to show for his talent during his prime
@@aryotaheri7421 Ricciardo had the chance to stay at Red Bull until they became best, but chose to move away though. (Only to return as Red Bull's fourth driver, go figure!)
@@TassieLorenzo Sometimes life is like that
The "it factor" that Ricciardo had was simply youth. His personality that seemed so fun-filled and confident in his 20s now makes him seem like an immature, 32 year old frat boy. Sure some drivers maintain competitiveness into "older" age. But it appears to be much more the exception than the rule.
@@j.frankparnell3087 it’s not to do with age, it’s his lack of adaptability
Still pretty obvious though, that the biggest impediment to Mclaren's success, is McLaren themselves. Just think where they'd be with these very adaptable drivers if they actually built a good car. Getting rid of Key should be just that.
Lets be very clear...McClaren made zero car adjustments for D Ric...he was left to struggle with a package built for Norris. RBull have publicly stated they are trying to undo all the bad habits he has atuned into his driver style to drive what was a brick on wheels.
Oscar will reach the cars limits mid season and progress no further ....it is substantially a car issue...That is valid as Norris only progresses to the inflectionn point and also gets hamstrung....he has said as much publicly
He`s managed by Mark Webber, no wonder he`s gotten up to speed so swiftly.
Like how CZcams subtitles think Piastri is PS3
Impressed with young Piastri.
I guess if Piastri lives up to the hype McLaren will have two divers who will get poached if the team doesn't pull it's finger out soon.
I dare you to clarify on why it was controversial *for McLaren* to sign Piastri. The only controversial actor in that whole saga was Alpine with their illegitimate attempt to hook PIA into a contract.
I wish the helmet cams we get during a race weekend were like the ones in this video 😢
He is one of the best rookies first points at ur 3rd race q3 in ur 2nd
Piastry is sucha down to earth guy.