The Oscar Piastri Saga
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2022
- Now that (most of) the facts are in place, we can have a look back at the Oscar Piastri saga that made news headlines around the world. BTW apologies for the delay in vid production - a little bit of jet lag may have had a part to play in that ;)
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I knew Alpine were in the wrong the moment Szafnauer started yapping to any and all media about 'loyalty', 'integrity', 'what we are owed', etc. It was clearly a pathetic attempt to gain allies from the outside. The fact that they continued to publicly villify a young driver who was in the right all along, speaks volumes about them as an organization.
And the fact that there are people that sided with them is just disgusting
I think that none of us are in any position to speak of it since there’s no evidence for absolutely anything.
All of them are snakes, everyone.
No one is owed anything.
"In the right", if Alpine effectively got that Williams seat for 2023 is pretty questionable. Other comments too are stating how much of a shame it is that Piastri didn't get a drive this year, but Alpine doesn't have as much traction as Mercedes or Ferrari, considering it doesn't have any client team anymore. Piastri did snub a 2023 Williams drive that Alpine had gotten him after all, which in this saturated driver market is already something good.
I want to see the man drive as much as anyone, yet while Alpine certainly dropped the ball with its drivers there, they didn't let him down as much as he wants everyone to believe.
@paper plane Yeah, because every driver yearns to drive for a backmarker when they have nothing forcing them to. Alpine screwed up massively when they messed up the contracts, he took a better deal; anybody else would have done the same thing.
"Oscar Piastri is an Australian driver from Australia..."
Will Buxton is proud of this sentence 🤭
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@@alunesh12345 no
To put it simply, he didn't choose Mclaren over Alpine, he chose a definite seat at Mclaren over a loan to Williams and a pinky promise that Alpine would grace him with an Alpine seat
" a pinky promise " lmao didn't alpine invested douzens of millions into forming Piastri for F1, make him drive their old F1 cars and all that ?
@@mordor1779 wins everything and they wouldn't even promise him a drive in the series he did it all for, they made their bed, Alpine could of easily got him in their car but they where too busy trying to dangle the carrot.
@@mordor1779 Alpine/Renault has invested millions into a lot of drivers and gave none of them a seat so this really isn't surprising
@@mordor1779 A termsheet and a roadmap is as good as a pinky promise. There was no contract. There was no guarantee.
@@mordor1779 dozens* and that doesnt mean shit if you miss deadlines and refuse to let the young man know where he stands. You can only get away with being a scumbag for so long, Alpine ran out of time and Oscar justifiably decided to move to a different team instead of continuing to be treated badly by alpine.
Can’t wait for the Nyck de Vries saga
You know, I am waiting for the Felipe Drugovich saga
He absolutely nailed it with his debut performance
@@Scorpio19110 Drugovich signed with Aston, so he will have to wait for Alonso to retire if he wants to get a seat and knowing Alonso , it's possible that Drugovich will just say "fuck you Aston" and go race for someone else.
@@culturedsquid8442 some teams might want him for 2024, though. You don’t know if a team decides to do a driver change next year, so every scenario is on the cards
Silly season.
That Geography Now and Charles "NO" scream make me laugh really loud. And its midnight.
Are you Australian?
Watching this again after seeing Pastry nail a P4 (nearly a double podium with Landooooo!) While both Alpines DNF is sweet!
same
That almost happened today as well lol p5 and p2
Boy do I have some news for you
I have absolutely 0 hard feelings towards Piastri. His team gave Alpine half a year to come up with something that resembles a contract, and they left him hanging for so long that he was in danger of losing his superlicense. It would have been irresponsible of him not to look for other options. To say it with Steiner: Alpine made themselves look like absolute wankers. Not admitting to their mistake and trying to throw Piastri under the bus.
@@khamjaninja. actually, if ricciardo stayed, then piastri would've been the mclaren reserve driver
@@beanlentil can confirm this was in the contract.
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@@khamjaninja. mclaren are so shady.
@@khamjaninja. sorry to burst your bubble, but the papers paistri signed with macca where for a definite reserve driver role for 2023 and depending on how things went with daniel, the possibility of a race seat for 23
As of this video, I can confidently say Piastri is unironically one of the best rookies I've ever seen take to the track.
hell yeah
Even after this whole saga, the fact that Piastri had to wait until 2023 to have a drive is a joke.
A YOKE !
There's a number of "Champions" that are waiting for a seat in motorsports but sometimes it's a struggle. There's a debate that "Champions" from other series do not translate into good F1 drivers though. If you look at previous winners only not all have been successful in the sport or even getting a seat. Hulkenberg, Maldonado, Grosjean, Palmer, Vandoorne, Schumacher. Only 3 have in decade-ish have been successful. Gasly, Leclerc and Russell.
Ikr, Rossi compares putting him in Williams like Russel and Leclerc in Alfa, at least the Merc and Ferrari got them a seat the year after winning their F2 titles, and not waste his talent with a glorified reserve role with training program then bitch about the costs, if they were spending that much already training him might as well buy out Latifi's seat since they were putting him there anyway
@@trebm3 You know, Drugovich deserved a seat but he wouldn't get any next year, this is sad.
And also that they weren’t going to give him a full seat until no earlier than 2025.
If he does well, in 2 years time, every team on the grid will conveniently "forget" what's been going on. If they "remember" anything it will be that Alpine screwed him over and that Webber is not the sort of manager to accept treatment like that. A secure contract will be offered PDQ if required.
You are right. Success fixes everything in sports. Question is...with a seemingly good driver failing in that seat before him, the assumption was that the car didn't fit Riccardo's driving style and they wouldn't alter the setup to fit him, so will the car be a perfect fit for Piastri? If it isn't, will the team make changes to accommodate him?
@@extragoogleaccount6061 Can Piastri adapt better than Ricciardo? Sainz did.
@@GloomGaiGar Yeah and even he's still behind his teammate
@@extragoogleaccount6061 Are you aware of Piastri's style? Sounds like you are not. He won a championship in 3 different cars in a row. His key attributes are adaptability and racing intelligence. His two grandfathers are mechanics and his father an engineer with a high performance tuning hardware and motorsport sports analytics software business. Piastri couldn't have been breed any better interms of understanding race cars. Ricciardo is just a pure racer he needs the car to suit him to look great or he will struggle.
@@motorsportfanboy7769 although he has been turning up the pressure these last few races sometimes outqualifying leclerc and also by putting his foot down with ferraris strategy team which sadly seems the only way for a driver to do good at ferrari right now.
As someone from 10 months in the future just after the Hungary GP, Piastri has been an amazing rookie in his McLaren, his tire management needs a bit of work but for a rookie that's not abnormal. Piastri has real potential.
Poor Alpine painted EL PLAN in the rear wing, had no idea this was the plan 😐
"alonso's hard-on for bad career moves" aged HILARIOUSLY.
Alpine didn’t fully commit to Piastri or Alonso, so they lost both to teams that would. This is only Alpine’s fault. Piastri chose a McLaren seat over a Williams seat, shouldn’t be vilified for any of this. Bizarre that alpine gave Ocon a mega contract and let the others slide
Agreed. Nothing against good ol' Ocon, but he has been getting destroyed by Alonso. Even though Alonso had most of the misfortunes (a few DNFs not due to his fault and at least 2 races with engine problems, which lead to power loss, not to mention the hydraulics dying during the Austalian Q3), the points gap between them is extremely small.
It is frankly ridiculous that they wouldn't commit to Alonso for at least another 2 years. Why they wouldn't commit to Piastri is also beyond me, considering how much money they pyt in him. Piastri + Alonso would have made way more sense as a team than Ocon + anyone. Idk why Alpine assume they can have, statistically, a top talent and just let him sit on the sidelines for multiple years.
I genuinely don't understand their thought process. They could have kept a two time world champion and arguable top 5 driver of all time, or a very exciting and promising young talent, OR both, and instead they ended up with...
Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly. Huh.
No shade to either of them, I personally really like Gasly and think he's better than people give him credit for, but he's no FERNANDO ALONSO, and neither is Ocon (kinda proven by the fact that Alonso routinely outperformed him). They wouldn't commit to two great drivers, so now they've ended up with probably the most mid driver lineup for 2023 (aside from maybe Williams). It genuinely boggles the mind how they managed to fuck this up this badly.
@@ragalyiakos "and instead they ended up with... Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly. Huh." The crucial point for Alpine is that these two drivers are French. 😉
Agreed, no disrespect to Ocon, but he's not a "mega contract" level of driver, His singular race win aside, he's roughly at the same tier as Ricciardo.
@@hagamapama Ricciardo has proved himself a top tier driver, Ocon never has!
Love how you call him "pastry" every other time 😂
Freaking burst out laughing at the "Geography NOOOOOO"
Going back to this is hella sweet considering the heights McLaren have gone to compared to whatever happened to Alpine
watching this after oscar has a contract for at least the 2026 season and his first win feels nice
2:57, The real star was Daniel Ricciardo. He caught COVID during the pre-season test and was doubtful for the Bahrain GP which is why Alpine decided to lend Piastri to McLaren as their reserve driver
It's like buying your girlfriend a movie ticket, getting sick and letting your mate go instead and later finding out they fucked in the movie theatre and are now married
The real star was COVID for getting Daniel ill that he became doubtful for the Bahrain GP
@@U_C_G Best analogy i've seen in this comments section 😂
@@U_C_G Your mistress you mean Piastri was the side chic Alpine couldn't commit too. Alpine were deciding to stick it out with Alpines wife Alonso for 2 more years maybe putting mistress/Piastri up in some apartment for that time. Then buying Alpines Piastri/mistress a movie ticket with Alpines friend Mclaren whom is looking to get out of a relationship that isnt working with Ricciardo. Mclaren seeing the worth of Piastri willing to commit to a full time public relationship once Mclaren could sort its failed relationship out with Ricciardo, Mistress Piastri knew her worth took that ring stopped being put on hold.
@@U_C_G you speaking from experience?
Nyck and Oscar are incredible both talents who I want to have a seat in F1
Imagine calling an 28 year old a talent
The problem whit nyck was that it took to long for him in junior formula
@@vaaki5105 imagine not knowing what you are saying.
@@vaaki5105 As if youre some Lewis Hamilton to comment on it
@@Heyn_17 Nyck is a great driver, but he isn't some insane Senna esk talent. He is 28. He only won F2 because every driver worth a damn graduated the year before. He barely won the Formula E championship and his only comparison in F1 is a driver that shouldn't even be there.
Oscar Pastry is such a sweet driver
Excited to see Eclair and Pastry in 2023
@@kenalba5641 *chef kiss*
Get out.
Loyalty goes both ways, and it involves not dicking around with signing contracts. Kid didn't even have a williams ride on paper. Williams ain't the best team around by a country mile, but it is on the grid. They didn't even give him that.
This whole saga should make junior drivers think twice before signing with Alpine. They simply have no functioning path into F1 under their banner.
if I were a mechanic I'd be pretty wary too, I'd be wondering what else they're behind in......
I feel bad for people in the Alpine Academy. If any of the F1 teams wants someone to join their driver development program it would be very hard for them to say no. Thus, any driver that Alpine approaches is kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Saying yes and getting the support provided by the team makes it easier to rise up through the junior series, but saying yes also means you probably won't get an F1 ride with Alpine. As we've seen with Piastri that uncertainty about when or even if Alpine Academy drivers will be promoted can leave the driver wondering about their career path going forward.
Much better to sign with McLaren along with every other young driver, right? :D
hearing alpine may now close their academy cus of how salty they were.
@@thelittleowl1 They are probably salty, but the Piastri sage does pose a genuine question: Why spend money on developing a driver when you can just buy an already developed one?
The amount of hate the poor guy's been getting lately. Glad the light was finally shed and hope things go well for him
The "alonzo bad carrer move" and "mclarens best days being behind them aged like milk.
Searched for the comment. Lol
Watching this now and hearing josh call alonsos move to Aston a “bad career move” 😂
I’d have thought Otmar would know a thing or 2 about how there is no loyalty in formula 1
It's been made fairly obvious that Alpine needs to look within themselves at how poorly managed their drivers situation is. I get how they had "hoped" Piastri was dreaming of that seat but he was looking at his overall career instead. What's unfortunate is all the "hot takes" with only rumors circulating from people on social media. It painted a poor picture of Piastri and made Alpine look like a victim. When the actual details came out it was a very different story. More proof to wait until you have the details before forming misinformed opinions.
Here after Oscar's first podium for Mclaren at the Japan Grand Prix, seemingly a double podium for Mclaren with Lando P2. Oscar is one to look out for and I'm so glad Alpine lost big on this one
Watching this after Mclaren's p2-p3 finish in Japan. I think he chose the right team.
Stoffel Vandorne was actually good in his rookie season. He was just there at the wrong time the car was running with a GP2 engine and he was paired with 2 time world champion Fernando Alonso who is not a easy lad to be with. He wa whining all through the season where Stoffel worked with the team for a solution.
@VERY EVIL PERSON FROM ILLUMINATI poor stoffel has been a very unlucky boy since winning gp2 until finally winning the FE title this summer
Eh. Alonso destroyed him regardless. You can whine all you want as long as you bring in results.
@@seanonraet8327 I still have no idea just how important a Formula E title is when every race is just basically Monaco.
@@GloomGaiGar - yeah well Alonso also was always given a better package than Vandoorne. Wasn’t even given the machinery to fight with. It’s only natural that Alonso crushed him every race. 🤷🏼♂️
That's what happens when you overhype overrated drivers. Happened with Capelli in the 80s, happened with Vandoorne, happened with Mick Schumacher..
Mad man actually uploaded, impressive
2:31 Ah yes, the young and talented upcoming f1 rookie, Oscar Pastry🥐
Here after Oscar won and took pole in Qatar before Lando
I do hope oscar does well, the heat he's gonna get next year because of alpine and mclaren's actions is gonna suck because he was just trying to secure a drive
You probably need to do another video on Oscar after his win.
Alpine lost all three of their top juniors. Lundgaard went to Indy, Zhou went to Alfa, and now Piastri went to McLaren.
They’re deep into the Jack Doohan basket now, I wonder how they’ll manage to fuck that up too
@@MaCcAM40a3 Yeah. Don't forget the F3 champion. He'll be in F2 next year as well. Alpine will lose him as well.
@@MaCcAM40a3 and he hasnt even earnt a seat imo. give him another year.
Not only is he a great driver - he looks like friggin Nostradamus after Austria, Silverstone and Hungary 2023.
Not so many joke memes about leaving Alpine now ...
It surprises me that Oscar Piastri was never given a Free Practice seat during race weekend. Only young drivers test is the only thing he did
This is far & away the best video explaining this whole saga. You can't lump any blame on Oscar for doing the right thing by his own career. Best of luck to him in the McLaren next year
What a joke. Alpine needs to seriously take a look at the upper management of this organization. I feel for Piastri especially since they immediately started slandering his integrity.
I hadn’t watched Geography Now in years and totally caught me off guard
Love your videos Josh! Waiting for the Nyck de Vries and Felipe Drugovich sagas as well, Drugovich just took the F2 title while in the pitlane, amazing win!
drugovich signs as an aston development driver.
2 years at Williams and then a seat at Alpine? That's laughable for a man who has the potential to rise to a top team quickly in F1. McLaren is probably one of the best possibilities for a rookie at present. I can't see what Piastri did wrong here.
Oscar should have replied to the McLaren tweet with: I'm Oscar Piastri and I approve of this message 😆
This saga deserves an Oscar (pun somewhat intended).More entertaining than anything I've seen on tv or film.
And the Oscar for Best Sporting Drama goes to... The Piasco.
@@goodhorsehymn drive to survive having a field day.
Well i think he has proven Mclaren right!
Been following you since you were even at 10k subs, happy to see how far you came Josh!
I had been following this story from when it broke but this is a whole new and amusing take on it. Excellent humor and great story telling!
Worst thing for Oscar is he's really in a rock and a hard place now before he even starts his rookie season... as you said, this whole mess will affect how teams look at him so if he does poorly with McLaren, he may never get a seat again; he pretty much has to come out firing on all cylinders and be able to sustain that for at least the majority of the season.
agreed but at least McLaren is giving him that chance. unlike Alpine.
@@jfv65 true but still, one hell of a place to be
Bloody love the quality of this vids man. So well put together
awesome video, looking forward to seeing how Piastri does. I will also be very surprised if anything like this happens in the near future again if ever
Here after a year and a half and he has not disappointed
As of commenting this, Alonso and Piastri couldn't of made a better move. Getting a smudge on their relationship with Alpine is the biggest trade-up I've seen, avoiding the tractors they put out this year. Unbelievable luck for them both.
oh wow, i did not expect a Geography Now intro here. amazing.
He is doing hella good, i will always remember japan 2023
Great video as always, love your work!
For all the 'inventing' f1 media does to create drama, a look behind the curtain at some good old fashion administrative oversight/incompetence still comes out on top.
More transparency, less contrivance.
Let the sport speak for itself.
Fantastic video! love the new editing style! keep it up!
Josh continues to make the best f1 content
Great video, If the kid does well in his first year ( and i hope he can ) and holds his own against Norris. I think every team will want to sing him.
The @geographynow title being featured was just top shelf. Another one of my favorite channels.
Brilliant. And yes I look forward to your take on Nyck Dr Vries...
Mate, your take on things is hilarious... Oh! And on point!!
And today Oscar won the Qatar sprint race! 🎉🎉🎉
Honestly, the more information that becomes known, the less inappropriate Piastri's response to all of this seems. Szafnauer can talk all he wants about loyalty but every person who follows F1 even a little bit knows damn well that teams aren't that loyal to their drivers... and Szafnauer and the other teams know it, too. Drivers without a contract don't owe teams anything, especially when the team are the ones that put themselves in that situation in the first place.
I sympathize with Piastri, being jerked around by Alpine who want to keep him on the hook while they take their time deciding what they want to do with their other drivers. The guy wanted to take the next step and found a team willing to give him the chance. Then Alpine turns around and announces him as a driver for next season when *they don't even have a contract signed.* AND without even discussing it with him first! What else is Piastri to do but immediately correct the misinformation put out by Alpine?
The paddock may talk, but with how the situation unfolded I think most people rightfully understand that Alpine completely botched the whole situation, and I really doubt any team is going to look negatively upon Piastri in the future because of this... especially if he proves himself a worthy driver.
I would rather say it's 50-50 at this point, Piastri with his impatience, and Alpine with their incompetence.
@paper plane Just you wait, if Piastri comes in and has a debut season like a Lewis Hamilton, he will have every team under the sun trying to sign him
@paper plane alpine did NOT give him a contract, that was the whole point! He had no contract for 2023! And Alpine were busy courting an extension for Alonso. Of course Piastri went looking elsewhere!
@paper plane Except THEY DIDN'T. Piastri says they didn't. Webber says they didn't. The Contract Review Board says they didn't. The only ones who are saying they did are Otmar and Rossi, and they're proven fucking liars in this scenario.
@paper plane pretty sure he has had more success than lewis in his junior career
Comparing Otmar to Dennis Nedry has me dead
Ironically… like Nedry
That Geography Now reference is gold
Josh, your title cards are not passé. They are one my most favourite things about your videos. It also helps that your taste in music is on point 👌.
Josh: “and then, this happened”
Me: *gets an Aldi advert for tomatoes*
I think josh needs to make a video entirely dedicated to ranting about modern f2 cars
That Geography Now! intro caught me off guard
Honestly, hope this raises enough eyebrows so that drivers that think of driving for them will think twice before signing that contract. This was unacceptable from them, trying to juggle both talents like that and ending up with none is a fitting end to the story.
great take as always
THAT GEOGRAPHY NOOOO BIT HAD ME IN TEARS MATE
Piastri is talented; if he performs, other team will come calling, Alpine paid his junior career and showed what he can do; Alpine dropped the ball in terms of contract and rightfully the CRB ruled in Piastri favour
Josh, you should do a vid about Pukekohe and it's rich history. It's closing this year, but played host to the NZGP in the 60s and 70s and helped to put guys like Bruce, Hulme, and Amon on the map.
Many happy memories watching the V8s there in the early to mid 2000s
@@MajesticDemonLord I'm a Yank, and I got into the V8s over the pandemic. I thought the race this past weekend was great, and the final podium ceremony was awesome. Fitting that the Gizz won with another phenomenal late race pass, and you could tell how much it meant to him. I remember him saying that watching Murph race there when he was a kid is what made him want to race V8s.
@@salkdhfpoahergpoahre1534 Watching Murph when he was in the championship fight in 2002/2003 absolutely sending it round Puke was amazing. Glad you enjoy the V8s, they give a similar vibe to the BTCC, but there's something about the bigger gruntier engines that adds to it.
@@MajesticDemonLord Yea just seems to be one of the last touring car series that's managed to hold onto it's identity. Racing's great, the cars are sweet, and seems like there's always a chance for a surprise like Best and Randle putting it on the front row at the Bend. I've penciled a trip to Bathurst on my calendar for next year, really hoping it all comes together.
That geography now video fucking killed me
by far the funniest F1 youtuber😂😂😂 love ya josh
You mentioned Nuvolari and I though...
HOW HAVE YOU NOT DONE A VIDEO ON HIM YET? He's a legend that demolished drivers on way more powerful machinery in the 30's. We need your take on it.
Few hours eh? Been waiting for this vid to drop for aaaaaages.
Even though we all pretty much know what's happened, still here.
its amazing how people in the future would look back at this saga, and we're here living/being a part of it/witnessing it firsthand lmao
Nice podium Oscar.
Your videos are as always funny as hell😂 love it😅
Please make a video with this energy about the Mclaren/Ferrari mess in 2007, would be funny🙆🏻♂️😅
Loving this background music :)
I loved the Pastry saga, great video! 😁
"Stood up outside an Interstate Wendy's or something". Yeah, we've all been THERE! 😜
If you take a closer look at the article about Piastri being offered to Mclaren in case they need a driver, you'll see that it was released in March before the season even started. He wasn't offered when Lando got ill, he was offered when Daniel got Covid during the pre season testing. I think the offer would have still stood in case Lando was unable to race
Watching this after oscar finished p2 in Qatar
I may not be first but Oscar was in 2021. It’s crazy what happened in the span of a month regarding him. I’m interested to see what will happen next year with him and Lando
Yo Josh ! A video about your countryman Hayden Paddon and his misfortunes in the WRC would be nice, given that the Rally of NZ is coming
This channel just keeps getting better and better.
Almost them pissed myself with those damn jokes lmao XD
Advice: Do not watch when eating or drinking, your lounges will thank
me later! But a master peace once again, loved to watch it!
Up to those couple million subscribers shell we!
That geography now reference was unexpected
That Geography Now reference was god tier
I’m eagerly waiting the Herta video
thanks for the deep dive man, there was a lot of stuff i wasn't aware of involving the situation. though i must say alpine did treat piastri...shit.
Hello from the Maldives
Probably the one who can challenge Max in the future.
My anger about the situation is with McLaren. They did this contract with Piastri a week before Riccardo put out his statement about being committed to them until the end of 2023.
They humiliated him and made him look like an idiot. Yes he hasn't performed well and hasn't lived up to expectations. But no one deserves to be treated that way.
Did mclaren make Daniel post that or did Daniel do it on his own to try and boost his chances of keeping the seat?
I cannot tell if this is on purpose but it sounds like you are saying pastry. Great video.