Video Pinball - Game Sack
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- Episode 151 - We're both big fans of video pinball. Are you? Video pinball has the capability of doing things that no real pinball table could ever dream of doing. But is that always a good thing?
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Who else has spent countless hours playing Space Cadet Pinball on their computer and trying to light up those center lights?
+Son of Tiamat (formerly known as tiakpark) "HIDDEN TEST" - nuff said
+Son of Tiamat (formerly known as tiakpark)
Fun fact: Space Cadet Pinball was actually a DEMO to a game called Full Tilt! Pinball. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_cadet_pinball
No but I have spent many hours with epic pinball.
This definitely deserves another episode. There's so many more great video pinball games to cover.
I always had a love for Sonic Spinball, mainly due to the premise of it alone. It's an adventure game and a pinball rolled into one which is pretty unusual sounding but manages to work pretty well. The Pokemon Pinball game is also quite cool mainly because of the collecting aspect behind it, just wish they had a lot more variety to the stages themselves since it can get tiring seeing the same thing for such a long time while you fill the Pokedex up.
I will recommend two games, Fantastic Pinball Kyuutenkai for Saturn, an amazing video-pinball I discovered thanks to Jimmy Hapa and his awesome import hidden gems channel, and Battle Pinball for SNES, a super charismatic game with Gundam, Ultraman, Kamen Rider... the music isn't great, but the game is pretty fun.
Video pinball genre deserves more love. Thanks for this episode! I hope to see a part 2.
FWIW: The original Pokémon Pinball is a far better game than the Ruby/Sapphire sequel. The flippers are tight, the minigames are fun and the action is fun on both boards. Even the Rumble Pak, gimmicky as it is, aids the experience in making the GameBoy feel like a mobile pinball machine. Also, the sound isn't an absolute bore/good tracks recycled from Ruby/Sapphire, but I digress. Give it a shot if you liked the sequel.
+Captain British what i wanna know is, where the hell is Pokemon Pinball Gen 6 Edition?
***** nah, nintendo isnt as retarded as Konami is nowadays...
+Caz yes i had my Special edition pokemon GBC and pokemon pinball for christmas in 1999, was a pretty fun game and the pokemon catching element was well handled
+Caz Really is it better without nostalgia glasses?
charizardoreo genwunner alert lol
You guys really need to look into the Amiga more often - they had some truly brilliant Pinball games on there with kick ass music to boot!
I think they prefer the less realistic types, which the Amiga games never really had; however, Dave did cover Pinball Fantasies and Pinball Illusions on the Amiga CD32 episode and enjoyed them.
I like this topic. I completely forgot about video pinball. Thanks guys for all the work you all have been doing the past couple of weeks. So much love for your followers and it shows. I also enjoyed the music episode and I could probably write a big thesis type comment but I know better. Super thanks again guys.
Thanks for watching. Write that thesis comment it'd be interesting to read. Might be more appropriate over at Final Bosses though. :)
Under 301.... I'll stay subbed....
I fell in love with a game on the Super Nintendo called "Super Pinball: Behind the Mask". It's this mysterious and cool game where it feels like the pinball machines have personalities, and the game has great atmospheric music that adds to that. Anyways, I was hoping you guys would talk about it until The Necronomicon appeared. I thought "this looks familiar" and with a little research, sure enough both Necronomicon and Behind the Mask were made by the same developer. Thanks for showing it to me, Game Sack and I hope you cover Behind the Mask in another video.
Where is Psycho Pinball ? the best and underrated pinball game of Megadrive ?
I'm glad you covered Pokémon Pinball although I prefer the original GBC game. I think by impossible angles in Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire you mean the one with Nuzleaf (16:59) on top. The trick is to activate Makuhita (the boxer on the right side) by hitting a Linoone (the Pokémon below it that sticks its head out) and then once your ball is in front of the Makuhita you hit your flipper button in order to make Makuhita punch the ball granting you the way to the Nuzleaf. Once you've hit Nuzleaf couple of times it falls and makes a bridge that you can cross to make your way to the orb on the other side. I don't remember what happens when you get it (might be a ball upgrade?) but I think it isn't worth all the trouble.
Pinbot for the NES is worth checking out if its as good as i remember; it's not just a recreation of the table but add some things only possible on a digital table.
They have RPG maker and Mario Maker, games like Little Big Planet... I always wanted a video pinball creator!
+Jeff White If you have an android or iphone, check out creatorverse. you could technically make one with that.
+gozinta82 Are you sure it's on iPhone?
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May just be on android/tablet. Could potentially be on steam by now, it's been a few years since I've last contributed to it.
+Jeff White Check out Virtual Pinball on the Genesis... there's also Future Pinball on PC which is pretty advanced. My friend made an awesome game with it: www.junkyardcats.net/
+Jeff White In the 80s, they made a pinball creation studio game for the PC. Yes, they really should reboot that title!
Check out Rollers of the Realm. It's a video pinball/RPG on various systems. You control various pinballs that are classes like knight, thief, healer etc. Each class plays and controls differently (the knight ball is heavier and slower but can knock down barriers for example). You can collect gold to buy upgrades and weapons. Each stage is a unique board that has hidden areas, enemies to defeat, and obstacles to get around.
Thanks dude!!! I remembered this game from my childhood but I could not recall the name 😘
+Adam Brown whoa, that sounds really interesting, i'll have to nab that.
***** The game I was talking about is a fairly new release; I think it came out earlier this year or late last year.Unless it took it's name from a different game you're thinking of.
Adam Brown haha replied the wrong comment:)
Its on Steam, I have it. Pretty fun, if weird, game
Went back and watched the old Naxat Video and I gotta say you guys have improved 10 fold!
Keep up the good work!
After 18 months of Game Sack I finally realized what I like about your videos - they are based on impressions from little details, for instance the part where Dave is talking about how likes the video sequence where the lady wishes him good luck. I mean, that's totally irrelevant from the journalistic point of view! And in 2005 FMVs had been considered a bad thing for almost a decade. But when you listen to the review, you can't help but feel joy!
What?! A video pinball episode and you didn't talk about Pin Bot on the NES!?!?!?
+TheFireRed I was just going to mention *Pin Bot*. And *High Speed* too. They are video renditions of real pinball machines.
+TheFireRed yeah and dont forget high speed for nes also :) both good ones
I just remembered Pinball Quest, also for the NES. It was fun I guess -- I liked that RPG feeling.
Unless, of course, they had decided to talk only about original video game pinballs and not the ones based on real machines...
Pinball Dreams, Fantasies and Slam Tilt for the Amiga/CD32 are fantastic.
Yep I know you guys don't really do Amiga, but this is one genre where the Amiga really shines. Please do not play the awful SNES ports tho.
And pinball prelude. The Amiga really did have some fantastic pinball games.
+naviward Indeed, my favs are fro Digital Illusions (nowwdays DICE) but there where some awesome AGA pinballs too.
Too bad they didn't cover cause technically CD32 is a console :-D
Yep ! No reference to these pinball games is almost heretic. The absolute best video pinball games on any platform.
Alex Reality You Sir have spoken the truth.
You don't have to thank me for watching Game Sack.
I take it like gaming vitamins.
Keep on keeping on, Joe and Dave.
AHAHAH, i loved that tissue box at the end. A bottle of lotion would have been the cherry on top.
Another great video, keep it up you guys!
If you want more video pinball games to talk about, I've got a couple of suggestions right here:
Zen Pinball series
Kirby's Pinball Land (I'm honestly surprised that you guys didn't talk about it in this episode) EDIT: As it turns out, they already talked about it in the Game Boy episode
Mario Pinball Land
Pinball Of The Dead (yes, it is based on House Of The Dead) EDIT: Someone told me Game Sack already talked about this one, too, but I only remember MetalJesusRocks' review
Metroid Pinball
Rock 'n' Ball
Pinball Arcade
They have already covered several of those titles in earlier episodes.
+GameBoyLegacy DS i believe
+seanmyster6 Pinball FX2 is also very popular on Xbox and Steam.
Dave Bladegun Which ones did they talk about already?
+seanmyster6 The only one I know they covered is Pinball of the Dead. Dave voiced that part but I forgot what episode.
Once, I slowly walked in a church. Of course that meant that I needed to PLAY SOME PINBALL!!!
You have no choice!
The best thing about waking up Sunday morning: A new Game Sack episode!
You guys are totally cool guys, and I can't believe your half hour, highly produced videos come out every week. You guys should do a "making of!"
You should talk about The Pinball Arcade, which makes excellent recreations of real life pinball machines. Also, on the subject of real life recreations, you should talk about Rare's Pin*Bot and High Speed on the NES.
Personally, I highly enjoy Sonic's Spinball's OST. I find it rocking, atmospheric, and I can get past the less-than-optimal use of the Genesis' sound chip. I even like the options menu song. I view all that metallic grind as a electric guitar. You should check out the Sonic the Hedgehog Boom album for some of the songs played with actual instruments; it sounds great.
But hey, just telling you my own opinion.
+RarefoilB I can agree to a certain extent. It might be because I only recently was able to pick up a sega genesis. Have always wanted to get that game since playing it at best buy when they had the genesis and snes kiosks. It gets kinda rough at parts but I definitely still enjoy it :)
+RarefoilB i listen to a lot of game music and ocremix and often times when i'm driving or what not i'll find myself humming sonic spinball music. i think it's pretty rad.
I will say that I love how grunge-y and metallic Sonic Spinball's music is. Especially that boss music!
Psycho Pinball on the European Mega Drive is the game that got me into pinball. It was made by Codemasters, and can sometimes be found on the same cartridge as the first Micro Machines game.
There's nothing better than a Sunday morning with a new game sack emptied on my face!
Nice episode, guys, but we all know that best pinball games are the free ones (or demos?) that came with all the old Windows operating systems
What?! No Crash Team Pinball?!
+David Holbrook LOL
You guys don't do computers, but if you did... Pinball Dreams and Fantasies on the Amiga really belong in a video like this.
It's also obvious that Dave is the better pinball player, because there is much better technique on display during his clips, while Joe just seems to mash the buttons.
+Holammer Even if they don't cover Amiga, I think some of those games were released on the Jaguar or 3DO.
Martin Oscar Caballero Sartor
They did a conversion of Dreams to the SNES. But it **really** suffered because of the lower resolution. Even colours appear crummier.
the pinball games are also on amiga 32 console so they can play those.
Quote "If I one complaint I would say that the game board feels a bit scrunched" your mastery over the English language is unparalleled sir!!
+lee cook Thank 'ee
LOL nice episode! It's somewhat of an overlooked genre I find so really neat to find out more. Will definitely watch your previous reviews of such games. :)
Metroid Prime Pinball for the DS is awesome
Ok, where's Psycho Pinball for the SEGA Genesis???
I've always liked Sonic Spinball, despite it's obvious flaws. I like that they weren't trying to do just another video pinball game and actually attempted a story/adventure.
Always look forward to this on Sundays. :) Thanks as always, guys! Watching from Tokyo every weekend!
Joe when he realizes his Musha is missing "THAT'S MY MUSHA"
They missed Metroid Prime Pinball. I never played it, but it looks like a good one.
These clips at the end are always so enjoyable. I really like them
There's also the Pinball FX series from Zen Studios for Xbox 360, Xbox One and PC. They've constantly been updating it and adding new tables. There's loads of 'em!
For Sony and Nintendo systems there's the Zen Pinball series which has some of the same tables as Pinball FX.
If you haven't already you should play Psycho Pinball on the Megadrive/Genesis (PAL only). Amazing graphics, the main Psycho table links in to the other tables, there are little mini games that play like a platform game and the music is amazing! (hence why I did a cover of it on my channel, sorry for the shameless plug...)
Yeah, great game. Despite being a PAL exclusive, Psycho Pinball is a region free game and it plays on a US Genesis. It does have some slowdown when running in 60 Hz though.
I would think that the game runs too fast since it's likely optimized for 50Hz.
+Game Sack Not necessarily. The game plays well enough at 60 Hz, without the sensation of being too fast. There's also an option in the menu to adjust the game speed in case you do think it's too fast. The only real downside to playing in 60 Hz is the occasional slowdown, which might also be the reason why the game was never released in the US.
Astfgl
They could have optimized it for 60Hz which would have eliminated the slowdown.
I've got a modded PAL console and the game runs at the same speed regardless of if 50/60hz is selected. Would this not mean it would play fine on a US machine?
Dave how did you miss Pinball Quest for the NES?
Game sack has become one of those shows that you wait a whole week to watch, kind of like waiting for your favorite Saturday morning cartoon. except it's Sunday when I'm seeing it. Now, who the Eff downvoted this video?
would love part 2 to include pinball arcade and zen pinball.
What, how could you not talk about Epic Pinball on the PC by Epic Mega Games? Not to mention Pinball FX, Pinball FX 2 and The Pinball Arcade on modern consoles!
And also Extreme Pinball, the semi-sequel to Epic Pinball.
True Pinball on PS1 by Ocean. It's pretty fun.
Yes treu pinball on ps1. I loved that game.
Yeah, it's a fantastic version of Pinball Illusions let down by one huge flaw; no saving, which is inexcusable as both the Saturn and PS1 can save data via built in memory and memory cards, respectively.
+PinMike Yeah that kind of sucked. But you could always write down your high scores.
+Meccorr Better yet, PS1 and Saturn emulation are pretty good these days and allow for save states, which come in handy for that game!
I stay up late every Saturday night to get my weekly dose of sack.
the Zen Pinball games are pretty decent with each one having a clear theme.
Older gamers are better than young gamers.
Why do people say "on point"? My question is why do people say on "on fleek" now?
Haven't heard that one yet.
Its a saying that came out recently. Has something to do with hair I think.
Zeldas Champion the same reason people used to say, " that's fresh " or " groovy ". It's young generations...we used to be one lol. Too this day, I'm still not understanding what the heck " f-ing A " means. I get the f...what's the A? Awesome?
iwonderifthisislegal We used to respond with "Fuck a B, it has more holes". We were on point with our witty comebacks back in childhood.
Game Sack Witty?! You little perverts lol. It's funny how we barely knew what we were even talking about, but we thought we were sooooo cool lol. Now excuse me whilst I write that one down😁👍
All this episode did was reconfirm my love for both Video Pinball and you two doofus...THANKS GAME SACK!
PS: As soon as you mentioned Sonic Spinball two thoughts rushed to me, "That games actually not as bad as people make it out to be, I kinda like it" & "I wonder if they're gonna mention the fucking amazingly awful option menu music" and sure enough you covered me on both lol.
Great work as always!
So glad you did this episode. I'm a big fan of video pinball.
Boo Dave, Sonic is cool, Boo Dave. ^_^
Yeah, there are no other animal characters in video games (aside from Donkey Kong and/or Crash Bandicoot) for us to enjoy nowadays as well. :P
I couldn't disagree more about the music in Sonic Spinball. Its actually one of my favorite things about the game.
Thank you for this Joe and Dave
Great episode I love pinball and digital pinball some great suggestions in that video. The more I watch Game Sack the more I need a Turbo Graphics! Psycho Pinball for Mega Drive must be my most loved 16-Bit pinball game. True Pinball on PlayStation blew me away when I saw it for the first time. The audio on the Vikings table is amazing.
I never got past the first level in Sonic Spinball, it just grated me so much, I was never a massive fan of Pinball games but you've made me appreciate them more than I used to! Also, I have to add, these videos just keep getting better and better!
Super Pinball: Behind the Mask!! Played that a lot on the SNES back in the day :)
You made me happy at the end talking about Devil Crash !
Your channel is fantastic. So entertaining and nostalgic. Thanks
Never bored of your videos...keep it up bros
FANTASTIC INTRO GUYS!!! You're getting way better with your presenting
Being a big Video Pinball fan myself, I just loved this episode guys. A few titles that passed my mind and that deserved to be mentioned are
Revenge of the Gator pinball (GB) and Fantastic Pinball Kyutenkai (Saturn), Battle Pinball (Super Famicom), Pinball Quest (Nes), Rollerball (NES) and Odama (N64)
My all-time favorite game in this genre is Pinball Dreams but please stay away from all the choppy console ports and play the Amiga version (If you didn't already). The Steel Wheels table has a lot of emotional value for me, as I played it night after night agains my dad when I was a kid.
Anyways: keep up the good work!
If you want a newer pinball game, I would suggest giving Rollers of the Realm a try. It has a bit of story and you get different characters with their own unique abilities (like making the ball stronger to break barriers). I have it on my Vita. Pretty fun.
Hahaha! I think I'm the only person who likes the option menu music in Sonic Spinball! :D Great episode Joe and Dave!
I always love it when the Virtua Racing delux replay music is appreciated.
GAME SACK for life!
You should check out Pinball Quest on NES, it's like a pinball RPG. I've never seen another game like it
Thanks for the love, this genre is so overlooked! And yes, I was wondering where the heck was Alien/Devil's Crush?! Great to see Flipnic, Time Cruise, and Necronomicon (!!!). For part 2 (or 3) I'll suggest Last Gladiators (Saturn), Metroid Prime Pinball (DS), and Pure Pinball (XBox).
You guys forgot about Star Wars pinball! This betrayal will not be tolerated!!!
One pinball game I HIGHLY recommend is Extreme Pinball for PC and PlayStation. Four tables, memorable tunes, and you can change the score display color to your liking! This game was a decent chunk of my childhood
Far out. I was just playing Time Cruise today. Also Devils Crush and Alien Crush. Love those three pinball games.
I had Pinball Quest on the NES as a kid. There's three ordinary boards, then there's "RPG Mode" where you're trying to rescue a kidnapped princess. You collect money and buy better flippers and stoppers from shops. It's interesting and pretty decent.
The Pinball Fantasy and Pinball Dreams games were awesome. I originally played them on the Amiga, but I'm sure they were released on Megadrive and SNES as well.
+freemonk3
You are right on both point ... they were absolutely awesome on the Amiga and there were SNES releases of em. Glad to see someone suggested them too. Don't love, but I even liked the Epic Pinball CD (got it for 1.99 with 12 (?) Tables)
Devil Crash and Alien Crush on the PC Engine are quite simply the finest pinball games ever made. They're just as good today as they were 20 odd years ago. The audio alone makes them worth owning! Definitely some of the best chip music on the system. The satanic imagery is just the icing on the cake :-P
+kodoyama Yeah, but they were covered before. Check the video description. It's one of the Naxat games.
Pinball sims/games are some of my favorites to play, largely because I spent so much time in arcades as a youngster. I tend to lean more towards traditional simulations (Pinball Arcade, Zen Pinball, Pro Pinball) because they so closely mirror my original experiences. Rollerball (NES), Power Rangers ZEO Pinball (PlayStation), and RARE's conversions of Pinbot and High Speed for the NES also fantastic.
Fun episode, guys!
Finally...they did it. They made this episode...A BALL SACK!!!! I could literally die right now.
Three games that you definitely need to check out are Pinball Dreams, Pinball Fantasies and Slam Tilt on the Amiga systems!
These are quite possibly some of the best and most realistic pinball games in terms of physics that you are likely to play on older systems. The developers also went on to become DICE who ended up creating the Battlefield series and Mirror's Edge!
LOL! The endings man. I love it, they get me every time. Maybe I should go watch some of those vlogs on that final bosses channel. I'm going to say it again but that video game music episode on there was awesome :). Keep up the good work guys :D.
14:09-14:20
Story and..PINBALL!!! Always go great together.
1:03, I can picture Dorkly Sonic saying "Huh, neat".
"Dr. Feel Mediocre" XD
I laughed my ass off!
The character in Crue Ball is named Allister Fiend and he was on Motley Crue Merch from about Theatre of Pain to Dr. Feelgood.
Guys definitely need to do Metroid Prime Pinball on the DS. It's great and has a ton of content.
Loved spinball as a kid, my dad and I spent a whole summer trying to beat it. Great episode as always
Surprised there isn't a Psycho Pinball section. Definitely time for a Part 2!
The pixel art on Pokemon Pinball is ON POINT.
Thank you for introducing me to Flipnic! That one´s an eye-candy!
Good episode guys! Fun topic.
Adding death metal growls to the music in Sonic Spinball greatly improves it for some reason.
Worms pinball, Balls of steel (especially for the duke nukem table) and psycho pinball.
For newer consoles Star Wars pinball is pretty solid! Also you guys should do an updated video of your game collections!
I really loved "pinball: behind the mask" for the SNES. It's a simple game with 3 boards but it is a lot of fun with good music.
My jam back in the day was *Psycho Pinball*. A friend used to have it on DOS/PC, but there's also a Gen/MD version (also I think it's on Amiga as well?).
1 main "hub" board and 3 additional sub/bonus boards with different layouts and objectives, that can even be played on their own, can't go wrong there!
In case Dave is curious to know (despite him not being a part of Game Sack anymore), there are a few reasons why Sonic is the main character in "Sonic's Pinball Party":
1. He is Sega's mascot, just like with Mario being the mascot for Nintendo.
2. NiGHTs and Samba De Amigo are Sega franchises that were created by Sonic Team.
3. Sonic is a character who has been affiliated with pinball since the first game on the Sega Genesis.
Pro Pinball Timeshock was always my favourite. I played the far superior PC version but there does exsist a PS1 version.
One of my favorite video pinball games was a little overlooked 3 story pinball tower on the NES called "Rollerball." It looks like you can pick it up from ebay for under 2 bucks. It's a bit dry, but I can play that game for hours.
thanks for the new video Game Sack .. :)
I just remembered: there's this game for the Gamecube called Odama that I guess is a pinball game of sorts. I've heard it's a weird mashup between pinball and a tactics game, but I don't know much about it other than that. Still, another one to mention in a future episode.
I always thought Sonic Spinball was a fun game but damn is it hard. Glad to see some love here.
Ending skits always gives me a good laugh.