The Death of Simple Racing Games
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
- With the conversation around modern arcade racing games shifting away from their arcade roots, why not look back on some of the classic titles like Ridge Racer, Flatout and Blur to get a better idea on what those game had that could be used again today?
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Contents:
0:00 Intro
4:09 Ridge Racer
9:27 Blur
14:49 Split Second
18:26 Flatout 2
25:06 Motorstorm Pacific Rift
29:27 Where did they go?
32:34 Optimistic Conclusion
The reference with the thumbnail is SSS++ tier
It's even an Evo (although it's a 6 cause i took the pic from FH5)
It took me a moment but I got it. It's a god-tier reference
Didn’t get it, can someone explain? (I’m new to this channel and it amusing the amount of effort each video takes)
@@itsmemene2456 Seiji Iwaki Evo4
@@silverdashhd644 thanks a lot, you’re right ‼️ Didn’t notice at first sight
Flatout 2 was the only game in which rubberbanding never bothered me. "Oh, Benton, you're catching up? Allow me to introduce you to THE WALL!"
Dude you don't even know how rubber banding works
Fo2 has one of the best balanced IA I've ever seen
I don't think it has rubberbanding. If you could met another racer you left behind one lap further if you had a good race, and the same case if you crashed and the team left you eating dust.
Funny thing worth mentioning: the Blur and Split/Second staff both went to Sumo Digital when their studios closed. They later ended up developing Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, which is also super underrated.
Now that u say that they feel like they’re on the same engine
That explains everything! That game was incredible!
No way! Had no idea. Never got around to trying Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed before, now I need to get myself a copy!
You gotta point about that. I have the Sega game, blur, and s/s on PC. I believe they are hype games
Sumo Digital also worked as a support studio for Hotshot racing
The game even made the switch from the Unity engine to the Sumo Digital engine
fun fact: The boost explosion in motorstorm propels you forwards. This means you can technically use it to push you across the finish line faster
Which I used so often to turn 1st in the last seconds🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍
Fun fact, Blur is now abandonware, and can be freely downloaded and shared legally. Multiplayer still works too
I had to re-purchase for a more authentic shot of nostalgia 😆
Really???
Really???
There's no such thing unless the publisher says so.
NIGHTRUNNERS MENTIONED
WHAT THE FUCK IS ENGINE COOLING
WE MAKING DAISUKE BANKRUPT WITH THIS HEAT 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
WERE VIBING TO EMOTION ENGINE ALONG THE WAY🔥🔥🗣️
WE ARE UNLOCKING THE UNAVAILABLE CARS IN THE PROLOGUE WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
not me redlining my 180sx for 3 straight minutes 💀
The descriptions on some of the used cars in that game are hilarious
The ridge racer 7 community especially in Japan is still strong even today. It makes you wonder why Namco still decided to axe the whole thing
Because it came out in an era where japan was obsessed with western sales numbers and nothing else. (Thanks Phil Fish… look it up. Its all due to his gdc talk)
@@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 which ended up with Unbounded.. Yeah ig that makes sense now
RR7 online is still active, right?
This is not the only time Namco decided to put Ridge racer franchise on the chopping blocks project cars too meet the same fate after the middle reception of the third game as well as the disasters launch of fast and furious crossroads and Bandai namco sold slightly mad studios to codemasters in early 2021 in that that same year EA bought Codemasters which means that slightly mad Studios is fused with codemasters
Namco only cares about Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune on arcades when it comes to the racing games.
man, if mw 2012 had been released with another name instead of mw, it wouldnt get that much hate as it gotten
I personally always think of it as an open world high stakes remake, which would be quite fitting cause mw2012 also came after hot pursuit
On steam MW12 is overall positive reviewed on steam
I still hate them for calling it that. And haven't bought a single nfs after that title they really alienated old fans with crappy criterion/ghost games driving style
All of their games are not fun to drive. Blackbox was the best dev of arcade racers.
@@FencelineFilms new generation replaces us old fans that's why noe they have nostalgia for a title that ruined the entire series
@@FencelineFilms You'd have to have been there at the time it released and have experience with the original Most Wanted to understand what a fundamental disappointment it was given 2012 did not live up to the bar set by 2005.
If you were also a Burnout fan you'd be doubly disappointed because the studio behind those games was made to work on a game that ALSO doesn't live up to a Burnout-like experience.
That just set up the stage for what EA and the other major publishers would do to franchise sequels moving forward. Scaled down and mediocre for every other iteration.
FlatOut 2 Mentioned
I'm tired of all the seriousness and effort being put into sim racers, with the arcade genre being reduced to festival "you're the winner" racers and asphalt feeling drift fests.
@@ileutur6863 Well at least modern NFS isn't like this, for the most part anyway. You still get Cops, an NFS Hot Pursuit inspired Cops VS Racers update for NFS Unbound is coming in just over a month from now. The current NFS Unbound update, Volume. 7, is NFS Underground inspired, with drag races, a new drift handling model. And there are even more stuff to look forward to.
I'm also hoping they add all, or at least a lot of the new Year 2 Roadmap content to the singleplayer because NFS Unbound's singleplayer is kind of neglected in terms of content. At least for now. Because if we give Criterion Games enough polite constructive criticism and feedback, then we may see this being changed relatively soon.
fr bruh im mad how watered down the crew and forza horizon became
Modern arcade genre feeling like some hugbox shit where you're constantly being showered with supercars and validation.
Man, screw that. Where are the snobbish opponents? Why can I no longer start with a beaten down econobox and then work my way up to the luxury stuff?
It's all so tiresome.
So this is where you were saving up FlatOut, Ridge Racer, etc.
yup
Flatout kinda revived in form of Trail Out
@@Fastminer07 hey, dude. have you heard about Carx? is like a studio that made racing games for mobile, and there's one called "carx drift racing Lite". which is like the "first ever" game of this franchise :)
@@jasonsteelwood3121 The cinematics are absolute cringe, but the game was pure fun. I remember setting up the longest track of the game with 20 laps, and spending hours racing through it
@@megajuanph11 Nah trail out did so badly what Flatout 2 did so well. Flatout 2 is a proper, almost simcade style racing game underneath. All the issues mentioned in this review are just skill ones. Trail out dumbes down the entire thing into a mindless crash-a-ton.
WOOO BLUR!! I’m so glad you mentioned that game, to this day I can’t think of another racing game that feels like just like Blur. If only we actually got Blur 2
I still have hope the franchise gets revived or adapted by another studio like Flatout to Wreckfest. Its so incredibly unique and fun, i am happy my dad picked it up when i was a kid. I have the CD/DVD disc in the original packaging to this day. It even ran on my first shitty PC with a Xeon dual core, 9500GT and 3gb RAM on Windows XP and it looked great while running very smoothly. The campaign was great and i remember playing that game with my friends and with my dad on on the same keyboard split screen. This and a few other games are the only reason why i still have an optical drive in my PC.
I thought I heard there was an attempt to make _Blur 2,_ but the developer went belly-up. ☹️
Split Second, Blur & Ridge Racer are all game series i wish came back
But we all know they won't
But i had my fair share of memories with them
If you loved Flatout 2, you should play Ultimate Carnage! It's basically a 7th gen port of flatout 2 with more gamemodes (but still including the original race career!) and 12 racers instead of 8. More chaos and more fun!
played the hell out of it, it's sooooo good
It even recently received a "Collectors Edition" update, making it fully verified on Steam Deck, removing Games for Windows LIVE DRM, adding achievements and fixing some bugs.
I count Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2010 a "simple racing game", due to its lack of story and straightforward gameplay. Little customization, just pure Racers vs Cops, and it's one of the best games i've played in a long time. I've put over 2500+ hours into the Hot Pursuit Remastered, it's just simple yet soo easy to pick up and play for a few hours. And for me atleast, that's all I need.
I know it's extremely unlikely to happen, but i'd like Criterion to give the Hot Pursuit/Rivals style of gameplay another shot, especially after the disappointment that was Unbound. Despite them continuing support on the game, I think Criterion need to take a step back on the all out tuner shit and give us something more straightforward for the next game.
The Blackbox fanboys hate the Hot Pursuit games because of the lack of ugly bodykits and cheesy storylines
@@0047sssssexactly
YOU
what are YOU doing in the comments of a video im watching a day after i encounter you in an online lobby
@@mayflower4645 Uhh... surprise?! lol what can I say, man? I''ve been told i'm a pretty recognizable guy 😂
I like Hot Pursuit the game and videos on it, so you might find me elsewhere lol
@@0047sssss They probably hate it because there's barely anything to the game, and neither the driving or the map itself is interesting enough for most people to encourage just driving around.
Fun arcade racers then: Ridge Racer, Motorstorm, Burnout, Flatout, PGR, Midnight Club, wipEout, TXR, too many to count.
Fun arcade racers now: Uh... TCM, maybe some indie racers, and possibly NFS, if you're somehow still into the new NFS games.
New Star GP
Horizon Chase Turbo
Mantis Burn Racing
Hotshot Racing
Those are all really fun IMO, I happened to think the new Crusin' game was disappointing....
Like Gaben said: "Fun is obtained not throught realism, but reinforcement."
Games evolve Into simulations. There was a time were people were i to this or that 😅
I know that the video is kind of about a different style of arcade racing, but I am very grateful that we have Trackmania in this day and age. Out of all the options that are available, this is the only racing game that scratches the itch for easy to learn, hard to master, easy to hop on, hard to hop off game...
BLUR MENTIONED WOOOOO
There's a game series you didn't mention that could also fit very well in this category: WipEout. It was released after the original F-Zero but improved greatly on that formula imo. It's easy to learn in the slower speed classes but very challenging to master once you get to the faster ones, it feels genuinely thrilling to play.
And what amazes me the most about those games are the physics. The ships have a realistic handling and weight without losing the "arcadey" feel of it. And i could also talk about the amazing soundtracks, the entire world building that feels like an actual attainable future at times, the backstory of the games, i could go on.
Sadly it's not around anymore (if you exclude the Omega Collection which is a remaster for the PS4) but i think there's rumors for a new game on the PS5, hopefully that's true. Nonetheless, it also has an amazing spiritual sucessor and great tribute to the earlier games called BallisticNG, you should give it a try.
Fun fact there is a spiritual successor to Flatout called Trail Out and its a choppy on thevedges but the same adrenaline filled fun
Man, that Ball_Fondler guy really came in clutch by forcing you to play the absolute GOAT of racing games
Anti-Gravity-Racer still follow your categories of simple racing games, they are easy to pick up but hard to master, ooze style and focus on racing.
Some recommendations:
Both Redout
BallisticNG
Fast RMX
Did they kill off WipeOut? Or do they plan to revisit the series? Think that HD collection was the last thing they did
Don't forget the upcoming Aero GPX
@@kyledodson2992omega collection for the ps4 is the last thing they did. Too bad Sony killed Studio Liverpool after Wipeout 2048
WipEout 🤝 Ridge Racer
both racing games that has lots of great techno & hardcore music
@@-Poka-I like to play WipEout while listening to Ridge Racer music. Somehow it fits
Well I m still playing Flatout 2 about 11 years (5-16) and still getting same enjoyment. I got this game Steam version at 2023 for respect because it was my childhood. Hey at least we got Trailout which is similar to Flatout 2
And Wreckfest ;)
it always warms my heart to see blur get mentioned in something. I always felt it was a massively underrated game, it was the only racing game I felt that ever captured the same kinda fun goofy magic mario kart has.
Best car game of all time
Another very good video man. If I’m gonna throw my two cents in here I think most popular genres have swayed away from simple games as consoles and PCs get more powerful. Many people don’t look at how fun a game is compared to how much content it has even if it’s not that fun. Looking at you Assassins Creed.
Yeah that's fair, I got the idea for this video partially from Emplemon's video where he talks about the death of simple games, and even though all the examples he gave were racing games, the idea applies to almost any genre
I miss them really much.
Wipeout, baby, comeback!
...too bad sony closed Studio Liverpool.
Motorstorm Apocalypse is my favorite one due to the crazy spectacle they pulled off with the PS3, but that’s also it’s downfall because once you see it a few times, it no longer feels like a spectacle.
Still very impressive to see.
I love those games too, but I think Pacific rift would be my favorite. Felt like I crashed too much into stuff with all that was going on in apocalypse. Still love it tho
I still play Apocalypse to this day. Its a timeless racer, and somehow runs better than Pacific Rift. The main thing holding it back is the fact that they locked customizatiom behind the multiplayer, which is never a good idea tbh
As someone who has played Flatout 2 and FlatOut UC, i can honestly say that this was, and still is, one of the best-aging racing games ive ever played. it's timeless in its own right.
The thing that holds flatout 1 and 2 back from being truly great is their difficulty. They are simply too difficult for the general racing fan. The frustration/fun ratio is ill-adjusted too far to the frustration side. I've found this true with most bugbear games...as great as they are.
As a indie racing game developer, I really think that this kind of games will be brought by indie developers, since we dont have the resources and goal to achieve the most money making racing game, but just want to put our ideas out there, mostly inspired by 2010 games since that the time we grew up!
I miss racing games like,
RUSH
RallySport Challenge,
Flatout 1 & 2,
The earlier Burnout games,
NFS: Hot Pursuit (original), Underground 1,2, and Most Wanted.
Dirt 1 & 2
The Original GRID
I believe that Blur's biggest problem was its marketing, as the ads made it out to be an "edgy Mario Kart."
Another one that might count would be the WipEout series. It’s an antigrav racer though, which is basically its own genre, but that aside I think it basically meets all the criteria
I miss blur so much, i remember playing with my friends and cousins.
Was happy to see the Night Runners clip near the end, one I'm really excited for.
On New Years Day 2020 I fulfilled my ultimate Gamer Fantasy.
Some of the British Formula 1 CZcamsrs I watch were having a live stream playing Wreckfest with 2009 F1 World Champion Jenson Button. I figured out what server they were playing on and I raced Jenson in Wreckfest!
Bonus points that you mentioned split/second! By far one of my favourite arcade racing games BUT I did use a trainer to always have a full power up bar lol
It's not just the quality of this guy's videos,but also the quantity of his all his content... giving best critiques in my opinion
I love your Content.
I’m sad about the changes Gran Turismo has gone through over the years. I loved GT3 through 5 but once 6 came around I really didn’t like it. I never picked up Gran Turismo Sport or GT7.
GT7 is great as long as you go into it and let go of the fact that you won’t have the old school career/license grind style campaign. (I just replay GT4 when I need my fix) but gT7 in VR with a wheel is something I play at least 2-3 times a month
GT went in the direction of a game all about racing itself instead of a collectathon all about cars, and it's understandable as nowadays it would be hard to pull carlists that are impressive enough compared to the competition, and the racing itself is some of the best wheel to wheel you can get outside of more serious sims out there. I'm glad they did what they did, because it let them not fade into irrelevance like Forza Motorsport.
i feel like ambition is making us lose care and love for racing games, we really should start not searching for the full experience that doesn’t excel in anything particular in every single game but enjoying and creating fairly “limited” and very creative titles.
Love the focus on music on this one, keep going
That reference you made with the thumbnail alone is pure cinema. I actually genuinely hope for you to keep getting further success despite not watching the video yet.
The Market is currently full of these "Festival-Racers" and Sims like it was back in the Day with the simpler games. Once people have enough of the current market and not buy those, will be the time we get these simpler games back.
Blur can still have a sequel, just get rid of the license cars and songs, replace them with unique or replicated cars, get a banger composer for the music, tell Activision they have a Mario Kart Killer, Market and Release!
Realistically, I don't think we're gonna have a 'Mario Kart Killer" unless Nintendo literally goes under, but it would be nice to see a genuine competitor with it, I feel like we haven't had one since the 90's
Hell no
I want to have real cars
This!
To get back to the Blur we love, someone else may have to buy the license and use replicas like Burnout to save money and concentrate on the gameplay. Once it's a hit, they will have the budget for licensed cars and boom, the Blur sequel we need.
@@nostalgigamer @AB-fr2ei As much as I would love license cars and songs in Blur, they are an attractive ticking time bomb. Once the licenses run out, they will be D-listed until they can renew the licenses again. Just look at every Forza, NFS, Gran Turismo game we can't buy legally anymore, GTA can't even get their songs back for a remaster. Meanwhile Split Second is still purchasable!
Just do what CarX does, model the real life car and then debadge it and give it a different name, COD does the same thing with their guns.
I want a good looking game. Doesn't necessarily mean it has to look realistic. Unfortunately real life optics seem to be the ultimate goal today.
I still want the Choro Q games to make a comeback or someone to make a new version with that style. Such underrated little gems that have so much charm, Gadget Racers, Road Trip Adventure and Penny Racers are all bangers
The Boost mechanic also was in a Wii launch title racing game called Excite Truck, which was released in 2006. It functions the exact same way with boosting too long blowing up your car and driving through water cooling it. The UI even looks similar.
Edit: Also, FUEL Mentioned.
I'll never forget when split second and Blur came out. Loved them.
One indie simple racer I like to give a shout out is Inertial Drift. A blend of night time street racing with Ridge racer 4 and unique twinstick control scheme for drifting.
FlatOut 2 is one of my favorite racing games, the destruction, the soundtrack, the more realistic gameplay (good AI with no rubberbanding!) and the 2000s grunge art direction.
Trends in gaming almost never die forever. Just need to cool off for years. 3D platformers had a similar fate until "Hat in time" and "Mario Odyssey" came out. ALSO I know that you didn't compare them and just mentioned it but do not buy wreckfest if you are expecting it to be like flatout... In short. It's a sim derby game. MUCH slower in pace and destruction doesn't have that kick that flatout had. It's not bad, but I'm tired of people saying that "Wreckfest is the flatout successor".
Yeah, it's certainly more of a Destruction Derby successor than a Flatout one.
Absolutely not a sim, but definitely leaning towards that side, it's more like a simcade.
What about car combat
28:09 hearing you talk about this specific type of boost mechanic reminds me of another game that had it, It's called 'distance: survival racing'. It's not a racing game but I think you should definitely look into it if you have time.
great video as always!
Another excellent video. Really happy to see Motorstorm in this review as I feel it is way to frequently neglected likely due to exclusivity. One of my favorite things to do in that game is using the boost to the point of destruction of the vehicle as your wreckage would still trip the start finish and at least in the first game it usually resulted in your wreckage getting a forward boost to the line. I had actually got some use out of it in the later races of the game. Also I am not sure if you have heard of it but for a quality indy racer that came out recently that I noticed you didn't mention, Might I recommend Art of Rally. Made by the creators of Absolute Drift with a more refined physics engine, downright awesome music, and an alternate history spin on rally with group b not getting axed and group s proceeding accordingly. It was pure delight after about 10 or so minutes adjusting to the high camera perspective. I know there are PC mods for it that give it a more "Normal" 3rd person perspective as well.
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Amazing video!
Just a few shortcomings on Split/Second though!
As someone who owns the game on Xbox 360 and on PC because I simply love it (and it was friggin cheap on Steam once), it is a bit deeper than you initially let on.
But yes, the game is completely borked graphics/controls wise unless you use a 1080p screen with an Xbox 360 controller. It's like a direct 360 port.
1. The actions/traps/shortcuts arent supposed to be a "you always wreck your opponents with it"-card. You need to select and carefully choose which ones you use throughout a race. Besides that, most tracks allow you to completely alter a course by waiting for the bar to fill up right to the end and then hitting that one. Sometimes a massive thing happens that will wreck everyone or it will 'only' change the course completely. This really changes up the strategy completely and makes the game slightly less boring because it will open up a whole new way to drive through a track.
2. There are 3 types of cars: The grippy racers, the slidey drifters and the burly can-take-a-few-hits SUVs. The stats dont really line up with how they drive though. And fun fact: If you are good at drifting, you can drift faster than you can drive straight... Which is ridiculous, but fun in a way. Also, the drifters are just OP and they dont understeer as nearly as much as the other 2.
The game feels like it was completely rushed out to market only to let it die slowly... Which is sad. Because there is a whole story element attached to it. A whole sort of "death race-esque" vibe where the racing crash/death spectacle became the number 1 program on TV with sponsors, bets and more. They hint towards these cut story content a lot, but you are never able to experience it fully...
And if you want to experience Flatout (1, 2 + ultimate carnage) in all its glory: Trail Out and Wreckfest. (Altough Wreckfest is more of a "simcade" so to speak). But you covered Wreckfest. But not Trail Out ;)
A racing games video with Sonic music? Best. Video. Ever.
Ahh Ridge Racer PSP, my introduction to racing games as a whole, leaving me astonished with the style that it presents, then hearing the RRT4 intro, it was marvellous. I really wished Bandai Nampo would look back into redoing a ridge racer game
Thank you for highlighting the importance of soundtracks. Midnight Club 2 is one of my favorite games of all time for sure and the aesthetic + soundtrack are the main reasons.
God i wish Bugbear would make their game engine something we could buy and build games off. It's so perfect for arcade racing games.
I appreciate you mentioning the names of such memorable franchises! Thanks for introducing me to games i didn't know, and helping to preserve the name and history of these games!
Preach! I noticed how hard it is to jump into one of the modern racing games with friends, and just race. Even if everyone has the game (say via GamePass), new players are usually offered one or two extremely boring cars, because these games are all in on progression and DLC (this is even a difference between Flatout 2 and Wreckfest - FO2 gave you all the cars in multiplayer, in WF you needed to unlock them, we ended up using CheatEngine here...). In some cases, they need to slog through some sort of "story" sequence before they are even allowed to link up with other players (Forza Horizon). And Forza Motorport makes you feel like private groups are an unwelcome guests. I guess you are supposed to populate their open lobbies instead. Flatout 2 is the legend. We spent hundreds of hours chasing each other. So simple, so fun. The special events were fun too, and yeah, not all of them were obvious. Usually there was a very specific angle you needed to shoot for good scores. Split/Second had the worst PC port ever. Locked to 30 FPS, and the unofficial patch to fix that broke physics. Yuck.
Been finally looking forward for mentions of Ridge Racer and Blur! You did a fantastic job with the R4 music being included.
Another bit I liked about Blur were the characters, even though there's not much to them. But it turns out it used to have an actual Story Mode with cutscenes that revolved around a group of characters traveling around the world, meeting new rivals. And it always bothered me how all of it got scrapped since it seems like it was more or less ready. It definitely would've made the career much more interesting to go through rather than the brief introductions to the events being set up by set characters. I actually played a mobile version of Blur so I even learned about characters that originally don't exist (or rather, not introduced) like Weaving, Jun, and Odalis.
And for Ridge Racer, there's not much to say, I always love those cars and I still see them pop up every now and then in another Bandai Namco game. It's style is irreplaceable, and I still vibe to it's music whenever I get the chance to.
Absolutely cooked, man. Can't wait for your next video.
PGR will always hurt, but that F50 GT… wow what a monster
Not exactly a racing game but Onrush had this effect for me. It was simple and easy to learn, hard to master.
With an interesting spin on rally racing. Though it would have benefitted from a lap racing mode or two.
I loved Onrush when I played it from launch. I can also understand why it fell through.
Talking about Motorstorm. I only played Apocalypse but I love it so much. Its enviromental destruction and crazy tracks are a blast to drive through (altough they can be a bit irritating at first) and the disc version of the game has a little story which i actually kinda enjoyed
As Much as I will Geek out about how much I LOVE Split/Second, I can understand why some people don't like it. The A.I. Not being 1 shot, no Boost to aid Acceleration and the Drifting especially being wonky as hell. Personally, I find that to be part of the game's charm. Unpredictability and Strategic thinking. Hmm.. That probably explains why I love BLUR so much too.
Still makes my heart ache knowing Activision axed the blur sequel specially after seeing those leaked footage of the game
Among the ones you had listed at the start of "Where did they go?" chapter, played a lot of Midnight Club LA, Burnout Revenge and Paradise. But discussed through the video, Blur, absolutely. I have Motorstorm among my collection, but haven't gotten around to it beyond poking a bit. Blur is a game I played a bunch and loved whenever I did. It felt so unique in style and gameplay, and was a ton of fun. (Also you can throw many items in Mario Kart forwards and backwards, that small comment about it for Blur confused me.) I do still enjoy some modern racing games, Need for Speed Heat probably the most recent (non-remaster, as I did grab Hot Pursuit remastered too and enjoy it) that I had a ton of fun with a played a good lot of. But I do miss some simpler stuff and variety to mainstream racing games.
I will ride and die for my weird Vita racing games, WipEout, RR, NfS:MW, all fairly "simple" and absolute blasts.
A great video that I wholeheartedly agree with. Just to add one thing: While you mention the category of multiplayer focus especially in newer titles, it's important to remember how great some of the shown racers were on LAN or online. Blur in particular was a force online. It kept you pumped with adrenaline and endorphins throughout, so much so that I personally liked to call it the Call of Duty of racers - but meant in a totally positive way.
What I mean by multiplayer focused is that many modern racing games will not focus nearly as much into having a good singleplayer, so they can put more resources into the multiplayer. Most of the games here usually hit a good balance
Growing up on Need for Speeds and finding lots of enjoyment in GTA and Forza Horizon, I leaned towards more open-world car customization games. However recently (like literally the past two weeks) I picked up Wreckfest after watching videos on it on and off for the better part of 5 years. I cannot express how much fun that game has been and what a refresher it's been as a racing game I'm almost done with the single-player aspects of it and find myself wanting more, games like this just don't exist and it sucks because I definitely think there is a market for it. Great video man!
Side note What is your opinion on the new Test Drive game coming out, I was really looking forward to it but it seems its going to fall extremely flat of any expectations and has basically lost what made the previous games Test Drive games.
I've tried to stay away from TDUSC stuff as much as possible, so i can go into the game with a completely fresh look when it comes out
The main issues with games like the older nfs and burnout parts are more capitalistic...
The older (and mostly better) games had no in game payment options. You payed for the copy and played it as often as you wanted to and when the game bored you out, you just had to wait until the next part came out. Now you get most of the games as an digital download which isn't yours at all... And then there will be DLCs and other real money pay n play options for almost everything. And if the game is made for online playing and they cut the server you'll get nothing back. The old hardcopy games never needed the internet connection to play them. These games were less expensive and more fun. 😅
The internet and ingame money transfers fucks everything up!!!
I remember buying Ridge Racer Type 4 together with the Jogcon. The Jogcon was in all honesty a complete gimmick and it wasn't good at controlling the vehicle. I also couldn't get into the game either but like you appreciated it for it's art style. I remember selling it at a games store for the same price I'd bought it many years earlier though it's probably worth a lot more now.
Jogcon worked well and worked with other games. It makes drifting easier to control with Type 4, even the original game.
I watched this while playing Forza Motorsport 6 keep up the great work
I recently picked up a racing game, Trail Out. Best way to describe it, it's a parody of racing/gaming culture. It's got okay physics, but god I love it. It tries really hard to be a Flatout successor. Now I say it did good, but I could see it if others think it falls short. Either way, I love it.
Ridge Racer Type 4 for me is amazing.
I also noticed some of your videos is using the music from this game.
That "Move Me" music (6:45) from the game is the one I always use in the Final of Grand Prix Mode when completing all the teams. That feeling when the music plays really just hit different that I can't just explain how well it is back when I was a kid.
Until now I play the game again as an adult, understanding the small story of this game then I've realized why this music hits me deep and it became one of my best nostalgia ever.
In the Grand Prix mode, the Real Racing Roots '99 Grand Prix Final was set to be in the night on December 31st, 1999. Fireworks being sent off the sky in the final lap of the race to pump out the last moments of Real Racing Roots '99, together with the New Year's Eve celebration. That momentum + "Move Me" music + The win, plus the changing era to 2000. That combo is something I can't forgot for such a simple game.
the death of ridge racer is something that will forever hurt my soul, also i highly suggest ridge racer 7 i believe the online is still going strong on actual ps3 hardware but idk if its possible to play online through rpcs 3 but the game itself is playable.
Ngl I love sims so much and don't care about simple racing games much these days. But I do have to agree that these kinds of games are my childhood and it's sad to see the current landscape. When I see that a game is always online, multiplayer focused with lootboxes and microtransactions... I die a little inside.
I remember countless hours spent at playing FlatOut, holy hell man. Simply can't do it with any Forza or NFS now.
Holy cow, I got fullbody goosebumps at the Ridge Racer 4 intro. Brings back memories…
BLUR reminds me of NASCAR Rumble for the PS1.
It was a weird game featuring NASCAR cars but no oval racing and power ups. (ie: it is not a NASCAR game)
I loved that game when I was young.
this is why I love Dirt Rally, even though it's a sim, the process is just select an event, select a car, and then go race
RIP Blur, absolutely one of the greatest racing games of all time. Incredibly underrated.
Loved this video! I'm so happy u mentioned Blur! That game doesn't game as much recognition as it deserves! Me and my boys would go to a video game club (like an arcade but with PS3s, PS4s, Xbox 360s and Xbox Ones) to play Blur and couple other game. But Blur was the onlyracing game we played. Eventho couple of us had Xbox 360s with enough controllers to host 4 to 6 ppl, we'd still rather head to the videogame club cuz it was a whole new level of fun.
We're from Iran btw
That ridgeracer song is incredible. I wish games were produced with this much soul today…
I hate how all my favorite franchises are "Forza Horizoned"
I feel like "Excite Truck" for Wii also perfectly fits this genre. It's the definition of a pick up and play racing game that basically anyone understands immediately, but has some pretty good depth to it once you get into it. Loved that game as a kid. Remember playing it so much with my brother around the Christmas holidays that my mum got sick of hearing the engine sounds all day lmao
I do think that indie racing games is where it's at. Some of my personal favourites are
Distance - a difficult horror racing game with flying cars
Grip: combat racing - one of the fastest games i've ever played
BallisticNG - basically Wipeout on crack
And finally Inertial Drift - a game all about drifting.
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I love FlatOut 2 but tbh I never really played the "normal" race mode. Stunt and Derby mode were so much fun that i just stuck to them.
I miss Ridge Racer. I miss Motorstorm. I miss Wipeout. I miss TXR.
:(
Also at least Motorstorm's boost mechanic came back in Redout 2 (another very underrated racing game)
Simple racing games still live on in the indie scene. You just need to know where to find the good ones.
Type 4 was such an experience. Everyone I know who grew up with it says the game stuck with them. I've met fuckin zoomers who emulated it, played it, and had the same reaction. It's an experience that you just can't forget. It serves to tint the time when you played it. So, when you think about it? It'll take you back to that time and place. You'll remember what you were doing, who you were hangin' with, etc. etc.
Fantastic game.
The secret to FlatOut's sports events is not to hold the stick forward. The aerobatics slow you down.
Took me way too long as a kid to figure that one out.
Split second drift physics are aggravating at best… BUT, when you run a clean lap with smooth drifts it is satisfying. I don’t know why I never had Blur in my collection. I think I might try it out. I’ve been seeing more YT content on it lately.
The devs from Flatout made Wreckfest! Pretty fun game for wrecking, and simple too. Online mode as well
The arcade version of Ridge Racer had a 6 speed gearbox and a clutch. It was so the coolest thing I had seen in gaming up to that point.
I like how the argument for Blur not being a kart racer is describing things available in other kart racers. Even certain Mario Karts let you shoot things behind you.
I absolutely love RR4. The music, the time it's set in, and the actual gameplay. The only drawback is how short it is
Your perspective on RR4 couldn’t be more accurate.
cant forget burnout too i feel like so many games wanna be simulators nowadays
ridge racer influences multiple indie racing games either partially or completely.
One of the completely influenced games is inertial drift. You start the game and immediately doing touge style time attack/racing.
the other thing they influences underground djs and music artists like music in nightrunners prologue beta/trial. Also lowkey thinking that both grid series (especially 1 and 2) are might be influenced by ridge racers since the meta lines/cornering are drifting
As one of the people who mentioned Flatout before...
Woooo, finally!
Shame you didn't enjoy the soundtrack loads (I admit Nickleback was an unusual choice but I'll argue that Flat on the Floor is one of their best songs) but glad you enjoyed it.
It's surprisingly how well the damage model has held up after all this time tbh.
I played the hell out of Wreckfest too when i got that, and im very much hoping they make a sequal.. it certainly did well enough to justify one.
I accept that at a certain point, the thumbnail is left wrong to rage bait comments like these, but it doesn't feel good to see a solid concept executed only halfway. There's still time to take the reference all the way
It was left wrong because I forgot, and then when I realized, I knew it would make it worse as a thumbnail so I left it