5 Steps to Take When Acceptance Therapy Doesn't Work
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- You may have tried accepting your symptoms as a way to make them go away. In this video, Shaan explains a better approach called the 5 F principle that helps with overcoming your symptoms long-term, once and for all.
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Avoiding the five F's:
Fighting- Impulsive fighting it, going against it
Fixing- trying to fix it, find ways to fix it, coping mechanisms, the fixing is keeping it alive
Fear-all the "what happens if " thoughts, understand the mechanics of anxiety
Frustrated- putting in effort and not getting results, your reality doesn't match your expectations.
Focusing- any time you focus on something it grows, your reality is based on what you're focused on, hyper focused on it, it grows and gets more and grows.
If you fear it it gets worse
6-F's, one more F should be there, shaan and Kaylee,
Forcing it, Forcing the Recovery/healing, willingness to experience the symptoms is key to recovery. No. 1. Forcing = refuse to accept it.
I like that!
Hardest is not to focus on the symptoms when your whole body is screeming in terror. It's like trying to ignore a migraine headache. I still can't understand how you cannot focus on something so painful.
One of the 5 fs is not focusing on your symptoms, how do you exactly do that? When it's all you feel/think?
Thank you Shaan. Needed this reminder today. Trying to break my bad habits which my nervous system automatically go back to. You are the best.
Thanks Shaan. I think you may have saved what's left of my life,haha. Seriously,I got a LOT from this vid. For me,as a longtime student/practitioner of archery.... it's "target panic". The more you focus,and try to "fix" it,usually the worse it gets.
Another,for archers using sights is "pin float". Same old,same old... the more you fear it,the worse it gets.
A little anxiety(pin float) is part of life.... it's OK.
I'm making progress. Biggest obstacle is derealisation. The existential thoughts about not knowing whether the world is real are terrifying. So hard not to fear that. Work in progress..
Shaan this is by far your best video, I did your workshop where you explained this but I feel the way you explain it here is so important to recovery so thankyou.
Glad you liked it
I'm fearing it...
May Allah bless you and your team Shan...Ameen
I feel like the more I recover the more I experience the things Im afraid of which is good and bad. I am able to see what im scared of up close without responding In fear and its great...except one of the things I had to face was an aura migraine. I woke up it appeared and there was zero fear. I watched the aura and then took note of how I felt after which was light eye pain light headache for about two hours and sound hurt my ears. I felt like a champ, I felt powerful. The next day I woke up and again another aura. So I sat and watched it like before, grateful that both times it happened I wasn't driving. Then after this aura left my whole head hurt, I felt like I was going to throw up with every movement I made. My eyes felt like someone was stabbing me and my brain was being pulled out of the sockets. I had to lay down. I wanted to cry but knew it would be way too painful. I even took a pain killer and it didn't help me at all.I was shaking from the pain. It last me about 2 hours before it went away. I was totally drained. Did some research and found out of course migraines don't really have cause and they can be way worse than what I experienced...so now im a little scared of that. Im scared of the pain, having no way to fix it. Scared that ill be out somewhere driving and get one. One it blinds you and then the horrible pain after. Basically the whole day is done with once it happens. How do I stop being afraid of something that isn't anxiety?
there's your problem.. "researching" im assuming googling or internet.. talk to your doctor rather than the internet
@@yungblazee yes but in my experiences Drs don't care they just want your money. telling me to make appointments to come in and when I do they tell me I don't know, maybe order blood test for me and then tell me everything looks good. keeping me on antibiotics for a year and a half passing me around to dr to dr. It took 4 Urologist and the head of urology to pass me to infectious disease and 1.5years to figure out why I had a bladder infection that wouldn't go away, and it ended up being one little kidney stone. No one cared enough to take the time to figure things out. Sometimes google is more reliable.
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Plateaued my recovery. I’m stuck.
Anxiety finished with the extreme headach the last gate iguess
Usually when I get anxious thoughts, I begin to experience feelings of doom, I feel nauseous and tense. Also, I get this reaction of wanting to fight or flight. I've been trying to practice to accept the feelings and emotions, however, I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. So far, when I try going out to the store, for example, when I'm in the car on the way there, whenever I catch myself with that feeling that I suppose is the fight or flight feeling, I was trying to remind myself to accept it and ride along with the feeling instead of fearing it or cry about it. Also, I kind of "meditate" on the emotion by just observing it instead of meditating on the thoughts. Would you say that I'm dealing with this correctly, or am I still misinterpreting what acceptance really is? Thanks!
I’m doing the same. I’ve been accepting every symptom I have no matter how hard
I m having burning pain in my upper back
Doctor says it is anxiety
I literally get so angry why me
Anxiety and panics are very confusing.....
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Could someone comment on my condition please
I need help I'm honestly lost different symptoms like I keep wanting to rub myself like face or somewhere if I have an ich but then myind tells me to do it again for no reason sometimes too much to where I hurt myself from to much rubbing I feel out of it at times I want to be better for my family😢
Sir Kindly suggest mentor at India Kolkata
How to stop fearing your symptoms? 😣
I have the same problem too. I am no more panicking, but intrusive thought about dying is the only thing that is frustrating me. really need help with this 🙏
I have an anxiety and it happened last dec 21, 2023 till today, im not into speaking and really understanding English but i am really trying my best to cope although i dont get the full/the real message or the meaning of it. I have panic attacks every night time, yes it only occurs at night. I have this intrusive thoughts that makes me fear what i feel in my body. I feel ok and all in a sudden whenever i notice myself feeling ok it gets bad then the worst comes. I don't know if im doing the right thing, i just sit in the couch or in my bed then feel my body and tells my mind that's it's all just anxiety. I do always lye in my bed while the symptoms occurs, then im picking up my phone to watch all shaan's and other's anxiety video it suddenly goes away whenever i get myself busy or out of focus on what i feel. Could you please help me guys? Am i doing it wrong
the people in the comments annoy me because there not understanding what shaans saying. he’s completely right atleast in my case he’s perfectly said everything i’m going through. instead of getting frustrated try your hardest to understand what he’s saying if u don’t u won’t get out
Understanding something intellectually is not the same as applying it. I feel like acceptance based therapies should be a step 2 or 3 treatment for people who are more stable. When you're at your worst, it feels completely impossible to muster the self-control and discipline necessary for real acceptance. It's simple to say for some guru but it is incredibly hard to actually put into practice. Accepting and allowing severe anxiety is akin to accepting and allowing psychological torture, which it basically is. On top of that, Shaan also seems to saying to not use any acute tools like yoga, meditation etc. which makes it even harder. True acceptance always sounds like an impossibly high expectation to me. The frustration doesn't come from lack of understanding, it comes from not having it in oneself to do it at this time. And no one gives good advice on HOW to apply these principles.
@@jixer1956its easy you sound like u are trying to hard and have zero patience, let me make it easy for you, move on and live life with it, if symptoms arise then let them and understand that if u avoid them in any way they will feel worse but if you let them in short term they will feel easier but with long term they will go away. Also remember that you are in control so stop saying “people who are more stable” its your choice to live in fear believe it or not, almost all anxiety sufferers who recovered lived the same as u diffirence is they moved on with life despite the scary feelings and thoughts, its your choice no one elses, imma end by saying learn the anxiety mechanics and live life. Dont even reply i dont want to hear your opinion or thoughts have a good day though😁
@@jixer1956but also stop avoiding is the biggest principle, if something scares u dont avoid it in anyway, for example a scary thought if you avoid it it will stick and scare u if you dont avoid it, it will move on and not scare u, or like if your heart is racing just let it dont put thinking into it just observe and move on all the symptoms are the sameto deal with because u deal with the anxiety not the symptoms, anxiety is a reaction disorder not an anxiety disorder i dont know why they named it anxiety disorder
Hey Shaan....my all symptoms have gone away through the methods you have told us but still one thing which is more terrible than anxiety that is one thought which my mind caught when initially I searched about anxiety that a person who is perfectly physically fit and has no risk factors for a disease like heart still he might get died of it just because of this thought only I have become unable to move on in life like when I do my workout during morning or evening time everyday I get thoughts like why u doing that as there is a certainity that u still can die ......it has put a deadline on my final step to get full recovery.....hey man I have requested you many many times please make a video on this and get me out of it because since I started watching your videos I immediately quit medicine and got improvement as well in a stupendous manner I am sanguine that u are the one who could get me out of this final trap of anxiety because I consider you above all the phycologists of the world...plz Shaan..plz plz plz plz.... would someone plz recommend shan to express his views on my condition or make a video on it plzzz....
Plzzzz reply
@@vksharma3730 you trying to say about existential anxiety ??? Feel like why I'm studying ,eating,doing work , eventually i will have to die one day then why am i doing these.....
@@biggamers1633 Bro I can understand what do you want to say but how should I take it in a way so that I could start believing like if am perfectly fit then how can it happen to me ......Am looking forward to those things which could make me believe that way....if you have something then plz share........You are most welcome and thanks a lot for your comment
It still sounds like anxiety to me, you are still fearing about your health. Do you need reassurance that you won’t die? Tackle the thought in the same way you got through the rest of your anxiety issues. Anxiety can’t kill you and if you are otherwise healthy I’m sure you’ll be fine, just look both ways when you cross the road 😜
@@chrissharp3466 Thnx man....I believe that time will automatically make me believe that way hence am just building patience day by day and looking forward to the time coming ahead
what happens if you have no money to get help are no one to help you dose that mean you cant get over it because your have no help
You have these videos. These videos help.
You should also buy a book Hope and Help for your nerves by Claire weekes, Shaans videos/mentorships are based on that book
What is the cost of the mentorship?
Hi I am from UK , last year I asked them about cost they told me £5000 for rest of my life but I said it is too much
Ok but I want relief faster than using these five Fs can do for me, so it's not enough. I want relief NOW, I don't want to implement these and then still be stuck with symptoms for MONTHS, I want them gone NOW get rid of them NOW.
Good luck with that
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I’m overthinking the process.
I was too lmao, its a habit just keep working on the 5Fs keep it simple remember that all the symptoms go away if you work on anxiety and working anxiety is just working on your response. And your response is just not doing the 5Fs. Focus on life not anxiety recovery. Recovery comes on its own
I thought I am recovering but suddenly I feel high emotional numbness and depression??
Please reply me,, i will recover from this phase??
I can't feel anything...
I've heard that is actually a good sign in recovery because your body has been using so much cortisol for so long that, when you don't have as much of it anymore, you get like a crash from it. Similar to a sugar crash. Just recognize that it's a by product of recovery and don't worry about it too much. Shaan has a great video that explains it and likens the effect to a pendulum swinging in the opposite direction.
@@GenericFanboy yess i watched the video about pendulum swing...
But it is hard to believe for me!!!
U also faced in ur recovery?
@@ravishekkumar6703 Well I've only been having really panic / anxiety attacks recently since February. I had a good few weeks recently but slipped back into anxiety and really bad depression the last few days. Like suicidal depression >_< but I've just got to recognize that recovery is about ups and downs. Sometimes you slip when climbing mountains but you just need to pick yourself up and keep climbing to the top. Can't rain all the time as The Crow says lol
@@GenericFanboy u will win soon!!!
God bless you....
Keep going on..
@@ravishekkumar6703 and you man! Get well soon :)
This seems like an insanely high expectation because to not do any of the 5 Fs would require a ridiculous level of self-control and mental discipline in the face of what is basically psychological torture. I feel like you'd have to basically be some sort of monk in order to master this. And every guru makes it seem like acceptance has to be all or nothing and that you can't get there in smaller steps.
Bro I requested you many times to answer my question but u did not...can not I expect solution from you
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