I have the Zoom Fly 4, good for Tempo runs not much with easy runs, I got it for 110$ so its fine. With that Zoom Fly 5 price point I’d rather get the new Novablast 3 with the upgraded FFBlast+
Awesome to see everyone's reviews coming together, and 9/10 (including myself) reviewers said exactly the same thing. Nike promised Golden mountains and delivered a brick
Shame about the negativity around this shoe. I haven't tried it and don't plan on trying it, but I'd like to try and take ED Bud's view that not every shoe can be soft and responsive like a vaporfly and that Nike actually meant this but idk. I have been tempted to buy the zoom fly 3s though as they're only around 70 pounds on sportsshoes. Good vid despite the let-down of this shoe
The running shoes market is so competitive now so when a shoe doesn’t come close to its competitors I understand why it gets the negative reviews across the board. If this didn’t have zoom x written on the side of it I think it wouldn’t have been such a let down. It’s comfortable and fairly affordable but certainly not one I’ll be doing any tempo work in moving forward
@@BenIsRunning I suppose if your familiar to the actual good zoom x foam that would play a factor. For someone like me who wouldn't know what to expect from zoom x it might not be as bad. I'm on the look out for a new tempo shoe though and I could probably name 2 or 3 cheaper options that have better opinions around it
Some say weight does not matter in shoes but was amused to note the Zoom Fly 5 in your UK 7.5 is the same weight as my Speed 3 in a UK 13 and the Speeds aren't exactly super light. I imagine you have a several pairs of road shoes that weigh less than one of my Zoom Fly 5 (one of mine is 388g).
Ask billy mills if shoes matter. He’s the only (American) men’s 10,000m Olympic champion who trained in army boots and had to borrow random shoes right before the race because they didn’t assign him shoes because they didn’t think he was worth a shot
Don't normally comment but have to say I loved the 2 person perspective review 🤌 your vids have helped me a lot so far in my training. I ran my first marathon with minimal to no training with my girlfriend this year in Edinburgh and finished with 4:42 but have now started training for a half marathon under 1:30:00! I have got my PB to 1:34:34 in a little over a month of Training. So I'm excited to see where I can go from here ☺️ (just a little story about my journey that no-one asked for 😂) Keep up the great content!
Rincon 3s are £70 on Sportsshoes and feel not an million miles away from Turbo 2s. 230gms in a UK 11. Feel great at easy pace and tempo. Get two pairs for the price of these!
I hope Nike wont put Tempo Next away, replacing them for these bulky and not responsive ZF5. Although Tempo is a little bit heavy, I dont notice their weight running fast. Thanks for the amazing review!
Love the shoe and appreciate the 'propulsion' feeling. I do love the Structure however and these make a nice stable but faster ride for training in comparison. Will have to look at a race day option for this season as that is on my list to get back into organized event(s).
I was excited for this shoe. Honestly thought maybe an uptempo shoe that had my legs feeling pretty fresh after. Sounds like a completely different shoe
Different shoe entirely. 3 and 4 are bottom heavy bricks. These despite being heavier, won't really feel it with how the upper and midsole come together. This shoe will be somewhat softer between the SR-02 carrier and ZoomX scraps replacing the React foam of versions 3 and 4. This shoe is also much wider in the heel and midfoot, making it far more stable. Give it a shot.
Unfortunately hard to beat. Will say that it’s easy however to prefer a shoe that you’ve raced/used a lot compared to a new shoe. Got to give the alphafly 2 the same opportunity before I make my conclusion
@@BenIsRunning Oh I will give them both the same opportunity eventually but what I experienced from the first alphafly out of the box was 'SENSATIONAL' and it never disappointed me. However the 2nd version wasn't. I wouldn't even say it's same as previous version but worse since I can compare now. It's heavier and clunky and it does affect the final lapse time too. The onlything I like about it is the colorway. But I prefer the white proto version more which I don't have..
I love Nike products for running. I got these and had to take them back. I thought after a few runs I could break them in but they hurt my feet making them go numb during the run. Thank goodness for Nike policy I took them back and got refunded no questions asked.
Other than it being a little loud. It’s a great shoe for racing, and faster workouts that I think will last way longer than other Nike racing shoes. I find it very comfortable for forefoot running. You can feel the extra push from the plate. The arch is a little stiff for me so it’s only going to be used for faster stuff. Also it’s really cheap. I got it on sale for 126$
@Ben: you say as a positive that it is a good pricepoint because you can use it for easy and tempo runs etc. Then afterwards you say one dislike is the weight that would disqualify it from doing your tempo runs in it… Yea, ok… 😉 If you eliminate speedwork from its capabilities (too heavy and not responsive enough) then you have lots of other and better options out there don‘t you think? Especially for 140£.
@@chris.schmied 5.....did a 16km run...it's clearly made very cheaply.....by modern standards, Sr02 foam is rubbish and they've just put some zoom x scraps around the plate.....it's also very noisy/ slappy...and feet felt in fire.....besides Boston 10, no other shoes have felt so shit to me....
my favorite shoes, pegasus (current 38) for basic training, pegasus turbo 2 for intervalls (the bit more you need) and vaporfly next%2 for race (the extra bit more you need)
I wish I could return these shoes. They are heavy, clunky, hard and I’m worried I will get shinsplints trying to do tempo in them. I generally love Nike and train every day in Zoom X invincible flyknit which are the best training shoes I have ever had and I have not had any injuries and for racing the Vaporfly Next % which are so fast, responsive, comfortable and also have kept me injury free. I think I am going to have to use my Vaporfly for tempo and then get a new pair for racing when they start to wear out. I will use the Zoom fly 5 for mowing the lawn.
So in other words this shoe is helping to kill the "ZoomX" brand for Nike. Hopefully the incoming new Pegasus Turbo with pure ZoomX foam will not be a fiasco as well.
Would you think that arm hearth measuring would be best or wrist ? I found on Garmin wrist to be less accurate when running fast - it is loosing beats per min.
Seems like it sits in a bit of a no man’s land area. I have the Invincible’s and love them. From what I’ve heard I wouldn’t swap them for the zoom fly. Invincible can handle a bit of tempo quite well but nothing more than that. I am fairly new to running and am trying to find a shoe to work on my speed with intervals, as I don’t want to get to used to plodding away at base pace.
I have the Zoom Fly 4, good for Tempo runs not much with easy runs, I got it for 110$ so its fine. With that Zoom Fly 5 price point I’d rather get the new Novablast 3 with the upgraded FFBlast+
Great review matey, those angles are top notch! 🤝🏻 excited to see what shoe we do next!!
Cheers mate!
It’s zoom x scrap and some of the sole is made with cheaper carrier foam to make it more durable. That’s the info from the initial release
Correct
Thanks for sharing Cole’s channel never seen his stuff before he’s got a new subscriber 👊 btw those shoes are pony … look good but pony 🤣
Awesome to see everyone's reviews coming together, and 9/10 (including myself) reviewers said exactly the same thing. Nike promised Golden mountains and delivered a brick
Not a problem! He’s the new kid on the block :) unfortunately have to agree on the shoes, such a shame 😢
@@fabsterun agreed Fabian! Writing zoom x on the side feels a little misleading to me
Thanks Fordy 🤝🏻❤️
@@fabsterun spot on there mate, love that comment about the golden mountain haha
Very nice (and useful) video, gents!! Really great to have a dual perspective at once as well.
Stay safe and well out there 😊
Shame about the negativity around this shoe. I haven't tried it and don't plan on trying it, but I'd like to try and take ED Bud's view that not every shoe can be soft and responsive like a vaporfly and that Nike actually meant this but idk. I have been tempted to buy the zoom fly 3s though as they're only around 70 pounds on sportsshoes. Good vid despite the let-down of this shoe
The running shoes market is so competitive now so when a shoe doesn’t come close to its competitors I understand why it gets the negative reviews across the board. If this didn’t have zoom x written on the side of it I think it wouldn’t have been such a let down. It’s comfortable and fairly affordable but certainly not one I’ll be doing any tempo work in moving forward
@@BenIsRunning I suppose if your familiar to the actual good zoom x foam that would play a factor. For someone like me who wouldn't know what to expect from zoom x it might not be as bad. I'm on the look out for a new tempo shoe though and I could probably name 2 or 3 cheaper options that have better opinions around it
Some say weight does not matter in shoes but was amused to note the Zoom Fly 5 in your UK 7.5 is the same weight as my Speed 3 in a UK 13 and the Speeds aren't exactly super light. I imagine you have a several pairs of road shoes that weigh less than one of my Zoom Fly 5 (one of mine is 388g).
Ask billy mills if shoes matter.
He’s the only (American) men’s 10,000m Olympic champion who trained in army boots and had to borrow random shoes right before the race because they didn’t assign him shoes because they didn’t think he was worth a shot
Wow that’s some hefty shoe! Hill reps in them would be like having ankle weights on 😂
At £145 I sent mine back as they just didn’t fit for what I wanted them for. If down the line they appear in the outlets for
Yeah I don’t blame you
Great idea guys. Keep up the great content and having fun !! Brill idea to have two points of view for a shoe review
Don't normally comment but have to say I loved the 2 person perspective review 🤌 your vids have helped me a lot so far in my training.
I ran my first marathon with minimal to no training with my girlfriend this year in Edinburgh and finished with 4:42 but have now started training for a half marathon under 1:30:00! I have got my PB to 1:34:34 in a little over a month of Training. So I'm excited to see where I can go from here ☺️ (just a little story about my journey that no-one asked for 😂)
Keep up the great content!
That’s great to hear mate! Some great progress there in a short period of time so keep it up. Glad you enjoyed the two person perspective 🤙🏼
@@BenIsRunning appreciate it 🙏
Rincon 3s are £70 on Sportsshoes and feel not an million miles away from Turbo 2s. 230gms in a UK 11. Feel great at easy pace and tempo. Get two pairs for the price of these!
Rincons are great but a little quick to bottom out I’ve found. 😊
Order them. Tried at home for 2 seconds and definitely gonna return them to Nike. Will stick to the invincible
I hope Nike wont put Tempo Next away, replacing them for these bulky and not responsive ZF5. Although Tempo is a little bit heavy, I dont notice their weight running fast. Thanks for the amazing review!
I hope not too! Thanks
Love the shoe and appreciate the 'propulsion' feeling. I do love the Structure however and these make a nice stable but faster ride for training in comparison. Will have to look at a race day option for this season as that is on my list to get back into organized event(s).
I was excited for this shoe. Honestly thought maybe an uptempo shoe that had my legs feeling pretty fresh after. Sounds like a completely different shoe
nice to see my top 2 runner vlogger collab
How do you compare the 4 to 5? I currently run in the 4, is it worth upgrading to the 5? Thank you for your content it's fantastic.
Different shoe entirely. 3 and 4 are bottom heavy bricks. These despite being heavier, won't really feel it with how the upper and midsole come together. This shoe will be somewhat softer between the SR-02 carrier and ZoomX scraps replacing the React foam of versions 3 and 4. This shoe is also much wider in the heel and midfoot, making it far more stable. Give it a shot.
great content, keep it up!
Bro don't edit away your first 🥇 you earned that medal now own it
@@fabsterun haha thank you :')
Looks like a 2nd to me 😂 thanks Frederick
Yeh honestly, the new version line up from nike are all let down (including alphafly2). Previous versions are better
Unfortunately hard to beat. Will say that it’s easy however to prefer a shoe that you’ve raced/used a lot compared to a new shoe. Got to give the alphafly 2 the same opportunity before I make my conclusion
@@BenIsRunning Oh I will give them both the same opportunity eventually but what I experienced from the first alphafly out of the box was 'SENSATIONAL' and it never disappointed me. However the 2nd version wasn't. I wouldn't even say it's same as previous version but worse since I can compare now. It's heavier and clunky and it does affect the final lapse time too. The onlything I like about it is the colorway. But I prefer the white proto version more which I don't have..
I love Nike products for running. I got these and had to take them back. I thought after a few runs I could break them in but they hurt my feet making them go numb during the run. Thank goodness for Nike policy I took them back and got refunded no questions asked.
I love these so much
Other than it being a little loud. It’s a great shoe for racing, and faster workouts that I think will last way longer than other Nike racing shoes. I find it very comfortable for forefoot running. You can feel the extra push from the plate. The arch is a little stiff for me so it’s only going to be used for faster stuff. Also it’s really cheap. I got it on sale for 126$
@Ben:
you say as a positive that it is a good pricepoint because you can use it for easy and tempo runs etc.
Then afterwards you say one dislike is the weight that would disqualify it from doing your tempo runs in it…
Yea, ok… 😉
If you eliminate speedwork from its capabilities (too heavy and not responsive enough) then you have lots of other and better options out there don‘t you think?
Especially for 140£.
Right on eBay 👟 👋🏼
thank you for your honesty
Amazing review. Is that a new caps from Team Vaga?
Great review! Is it better than the Zoom fly 4 …or did I miss that in the video?
Thanks for the help!
It's horrific.....sent mine back
@@daveaskew2105 the Zoom 4 or 5?
@@chris.schmied 5.....did a 16km run...it's clearly made very cheaply.....by modern standards, Sr02 foam is rubbish and they've just put some zoom x scraps around the plate.....it's also very noisy/ slappy...and feet felt in fire.....besides Boston 10, no other shoes have felt so shit to me....
A little improvement from the zoom fly 4 I’d say. At least it’s not react foam 😂
@@BenIsRunning lol...I think SR02 is far worse.....
great insight
Nike needs to bring back de Pegasus Turbo.
It’s not far way 🤫
my favorite shoes, pegasus (current 38) for basic training, pegasus turbo 2 for intervalls (the bit more you need) and vaporfly next%2 for race (the extra bit more you need)
Love it🤩
Thanks
Is "air zoom tempo next %" better or "nike zoom fly 5"?
Probably same foam in turbo next nature. Going to be a disappointment probably
How would you compare this to the Invincible run 3? looking for a long-distance/ recovery shoe. Not worried about weight for speed.
The zf5 is has a carbon plate, not nylon😉
It’s listed as ‘articulated plate’ so I wouldn’t be so certain
@@BenIsRunning little late here, but the Nike website does say they have a carbon fiber plate in the product details
I think the weight with this shoe and the alphafly next% nature is due to the glue with all these ZoomX scraps.
nice shoe m8 might get it
It certainly is a good looking shoe 😂
I wish I could return these shoes. They are heavy, clunky, hard and I’m worried I will get shinsplints trying to do tempo in them. I generally love Nike and train every day in Zoom X invincible flyknit which are the best training shoes I have ever had and I have not had any injuries and for racing the Vaporfly Next % which are so fast, responsive, comfortable and also have kept me injury free. I think I am going to have to use my Vaporfly for tempo and then get a new pair for racing when they start to wear out. I will use the Zoom fly 5 for mowing the lawn.
You must be rich, if these are your missing the lawn shoes
How's the sizing, I have never owned a running shoes. I'm interested in these but the physical store doesn't have US11 or 11.5 for me to try on.
This is the “performance” version of the Invincible 3.
I got this for $64 from outlet, i think it was a good price
So in other words this shoe is helping to kill the "ZoomX" brand for Nike.
Hopefully the incoming new Pegasus Turbo with pure ZoomX foam will not be a fiasco as well.
Vaporfly3 or zoomfly5 considering durability, help me out 🙆🏻♂️
Bonjour. Elles sont aussi confortable que les invincibles run ? Merci
Should i get this or novablast 3 for marathon
Why did they bother changing React to Zoom X if its the same as ZF4?
Looks to me like a clever marketing strategy
@@BenIsRunning haha. Please do review Rebel v3 in the future. Thanks Ben
QUESTION.....
DO YOU EAT OR DRINK SOMETHING OR TAKE YOUR PRE MEAL BEFORE 10K EVENT TO GIVE MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE ? THANKS.
The routine it bagel, coffee, half a banana 🙌🏻
try the boston 11 and the adios 7!
Don’t really no much about adidas daily trainers
What are the bands you are wearing on your arms?
Better zoom fly 4 or zoom fly 5??
Is it a good shoe for beginners ?
Would you think that arm hearth measuring would be best or wrist ? I found on Garmin wrist to be less accurate when running fast - it is loosing beats per min.
Im suprised u dont wear contacts, running in glasses seems hard
Yeeet
🥇
@@BenIsRunning noo the guy below me earned it not me I'm 🥈
Absolutely accurate.....just wish I had seen this before I bought them, they are bad 👎
Are you growing the hair out Ben?!😃
I am yes :)
Seems like it sits in a bit of a no man’s land area. I have the Invincible’s and love them. From what I’ve heard I wouldn’t swap them for the zoom fly. Invincible can handle a bit of tempo quite well but nothing more than that.
I am fairly new to running and am trying to find a shoe to work on my speed with intervals, as I don’t want to get to used to plodding away at base pace.
I want to buy shoes for the gym and for walking, please let me know (nike pegasus 40 ) or ( nike zoom fly 5) or someone else thanks for your time ??
Just buy some Nike frees. No need to buy 200 dollar running shoes for gym.
it’s carbon plate, it’s official guys
very nice review ben! love it
@@farrelpramadito1703 thank you
This was a solid review but did you say pork fetus?
This shoe is forgiving on your legs and knees! Go work on you lower body strength with Thats being said
These were the most uncomfortable nike shoes I have ever worn..
3:26 Huge disappointment. False advertising by Nike 😡
Worst shoe in a long time.....
I hear the Fly 5 uses recycled materials (even the Zoom X midsole) - could this be a primary factor in this model's mediocrity?
Traduzione per italiani: nammerda, non compratele
These shoes are crap!
Got an unfollow out of this. 🤷♂️
Why’s that Ian?