Nitto Trail Grappler vs Yokohama Geolandar
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Considering both of these tires but not sure which one to get? Josh breaks down exactly what sets them apart and why you may lean one way or the other on these tires. If you have either of these tires, let us know your experience with them in the comments.
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I have the Yokohama's on my 2017 JKU , in 35/12.5/17 size. The tires have 35k miles on them and have 12/32 tread depth left. They have been a great tire for me, no complaints. I will be replacing them with the same tire only in a 37/12.5/17. I'm sure the new tires will perform just as well as my older ones did. I live in Michigan so I see mud, rocks , sand, snow, and pavement ,these tires were great , all year round.
I have a set of the Yokohama MT G003’s on an M1008 (315/75/16). They handled winter ‘21 on the icy Lake Winnebago phenomenally at 22psi. Smooth as can be at 50-65 mph. It handles the WI forest roads just fine, acceptable in the wet. Perfect manners with a loaded bed and towing a utility trailer with two enduros and gear. They’ve been on 10 plus months with the rear Detroit locker and no abnormal wear. I really need 8” wide rims though. I stopped by the shop once to learn what a duplex mag lug nut was. Thanks for the help! Cool channel
Fellow Wisconsinite! Thanks for the feedback!
I have a set of 35x12.5x17 Yokos on my JLU. I really like them so far. Super quiet on the road, great in dirt and mud. Haven’t spent a lot of time on rocks yet. They were also $40 cheaper than nittos for me.
Yoko Geolandar is the best MT on the market today. Quiet on the road, beast offroad. Even better than BFG KM3 in my opinion.
I have the geolandars 003..... they're not much quieter than my old coopers.
I love my set. I wish I can hear a new set of KM3s. I actually think the KM3s may edge this one out on road noise.
Have had what I thought was the pinnacle of perfection, TOYO MT under my JKUR, and then I got the Yokohama MT and found them a little better in the rain on the road. The NITTO, from everyone I know that runs them is a great tire, but with light snow and sleet that we get around here all the time, they seem to not perform very well on the road during those times. My Yokohama do very well in that weather and better than any tire I’ve run off road in ice conditions. I have run many AT and lesser MT tires over the years. If I have to choose the best for tough off road while keeping a good family safe road worthy ability, it’s the Yokohama. Again, light snow, rain and ice is common around here in MD. I also highly recommend TOYO MT, as they are my second favorite tire for off road and even on road. I do think it’s great that many modern MT perform much better than they once did for on road driving. So, Whatever someone gets, we are often splitting hairs on which is “better”.
I run 285/75/17 they are what we usually think of as a 34 x 11.5 No lift needed for my 2012 JKUR.
Bought my 2003 Wrangler with the Yokos already on it. They look fantastic and handle great. 👍
Should talk about the weight of the tire and how that impacts your vehicle.
Just got 5 Yokos for my 2 door Bronco FE, can't wait to try them out!
Almost a year and 12,000 miles on my G003s, 215/75r15 C on a LWB Sidekick. They're not quiet, and they scared the heck out of me when I got caught in freezing mist on paved mountain roads.
I don't care though, because they've been incredibly durable while tracking straight, and in most scenarios where I lose a little traction the tread almost acts like a lug-based ABS, "stuttering" the vehicle through turns perfectly to make it look like I did it on purpose, and with style. They turned my Sidekick into a rally trucklet, and handle the rain just fine. They're lightweight, less than 5 lbs. extra per corner than the garbage OEM sized street tires I bought it with. They resist punctures surprisingly well, and hardly pick up any gravel at all, especially compared to my old Cooper AT3 4S I had on a previous truck.
I won't be bothering with other M/Ts or A/Ts for a while, these are just too impressive.
I recently put my second set of the Yokohama MT G003 on my F-150. The road noise is minimal for a mud tire. I got 67,000 miles out of the first set that I put on my truck, and probably could have gotten another 6,000 out of them.
Nice ever in the snow?
@@Greg-pz9nt Yes, two years ago it snowed where I live, and there was around 8 inches on the roadway. I put the truck in 4WD auto and drove it 20 miles to town running around 50 mph with no issues!
Have you tried them in deep mud and clay?
What psi did you keep them at on your f150?
In my area, the Trail Grapplers and Cooper STT Pro are the most recommended for off-roaders. I unfortunately did the the Mud Grapplers by Nitto, and they don't work that well in our area. I think it typically boils down to the terrain you are normally hitting. It varies a lot across regions.
I agree. When I look at some mud tests, I sometimes say to myself, that's not mud. In my area I need really aggressive tires for mud.
I have the Geolanders on my Jeep JKU and they are great! The Jeep came with the crappy bfg mud terrains that were terrible in everything but mud. The Geolanders on the other hand are amazing in snow, mud, sand, rocks, and wet pavement. At the time (May 2019) they were cheaper than the Nitto for a 35x12.5x17 E rated tire.
Thank you for that. I’ve been trying to figure out what mts will do well in sand and snow also. I have falken wildpeaks at3ws which are awesome in those conditions as well as wet and dry pavement but I want something that can also grab rocks and tread thru mud a bit better.
How are they as a week end warriors tire..daily driver...
I love that the Yoko footage was from 4wd24-7 here in Australia 😁
i have the Yoks on my truck and they are deceptively quiet on road but grip BIG in mud and terrain. In places where i used to use 4x4 i just trust the Yoks to get me out. fantastic tire. My sister runs the BFGs on her Tundra and theyre great, but louder on road and questionable in the mud compared to the Yoks. the sidewall tread works great as well. these are super good tires for everything except maybe rock crawler scenarios. they are noticeably less grippy on dry pavement, but thats not what i got them for
Just got a new set of 33x12.50s Yokos. I REALLY wanted to get another set of STT Pros.. but with sizing issues trying out these Yokos. Can’t wait for winter!
How did you end up liking them? I've had both curious what you think of them.
I have had a set of the older unidirectional Geolanders load range e same size as the FJs on my V8 4runner since 50k miles and I now have 123k miles and still have at least another year left in them. Everything has been great except they have no sipes so ice traction is lacking. They have worn evenly and the noise has been consistent over their life...I'd have to go with the new Yokos when the time comes.
Can’t go wrong with either my trail grapplers are amazing but I’ll probably try Yokos next
Spring is finally arriving, and need to get off of my Bridgestone Blizzak DMV-2 dedicated winter tires
Note: EU has the DMV-3 model (not yet in NA)
I got the Yokohama Geolandar mt g003.. .quiet great traction on snow and mud..the determining factor why I bought them instead of the nitto is the sidewall tread lugs looks awesome on 2020 3rd gen tacoma!
Awesome tire!!!
Have you driven on packed snow with them? If so, how are they in those conditions? I really want them for my GX470, but I live in central NY state. Thanks
Thinking about the Yokohama! Sound like a great tire. I also like to be different and don’t see a lot of them in my town
I have a set on my JLU and they’re great. Super quiet on the road, and great performance in the dirt and mud. They were also $40 per tire cheaper than the nittos
I was the same way. I love my set. They pull good and are quiet.
Just talked to a mechanic today who raved about them, I think they are also USA made, down in Mississippi for their truck tires and Virginia for their car tires
Man, what a great CZcams site. Great information and knowledge being passed on!
I prefer the look of the Nitto. It’s sidewal and tread just have a great aggressive look. That being said, the Geolander isn’t bad at all.
I personally believe it’s time for Nitto to take a big risk and update the trailgrappler.
I’d like to see additional siping focused on wet road and snow. That being said… I don’t want them to look much different than they do, again their a great iconic looking tire.
As far as the Yoko’s…. I prefer a more Nitto looking tread edge and sidewall.
Good news is… we have some really great options.
I’d like to see the Atturo Trail Blade. Just not certain where it falls in comparison to the Yoko’s or Nittos.
Thanks so much Bret!
Attire Trail Blade are low end, noisy and hard to balance. Should not even be in discussion with the other two. I couldn't wait to get rid of mine.
Just replaced my winter tires Goodyear winter commands.. awesome all winter btw.. before that michelin ltx At 2 m&s.. now geolander g003 mt 265/70/17 the stock size Toyota fj cruiser..1st day i pulled a Honda element on a dolly 125 miles..32° outside .. the tires seem great.. not noisy at all especially for mt ...E rated ..
These were good through winter?
Nice clips of Rocket Rod! I see someone is a 4WD-247 fan!😁
I have 295/60R20 nitto trail grapplers im going to the snow next weekend do yall recomend to change the tires to stock or keep the nittos also my truck is a 2wd
I have a 2017 Jeep Wrangler unlimited JK. Would like a Opinion on getting the Yokohama Tires show in the vid. This Jeep is my daily driver. I go off-roading 1-2 times a year.
geolandar mt #1 on the market best tire on ice deep snow light snow off rd wet or dry is a good tire i got 4 years out of them daily driver and work for plowing snow never got stuck
This is exactly why I bought the G003s. Snow Performance. 2011 Toyota Tacoma TRD.
Will the geolander do well in MN winter?
I just ordered the Geolander XAT last night. My offroad shop here in nw where it snows, rains, etc requires great all around tires not to mention we do a lot of overlanding. Here in Washington state most of the guys at the shop uses geolandars. I'm in
How did they hold up?
So I have a Forester Wilderness with a 225/60/17 Geolandars... I was looking to changing it coz it came in stock, but the more I research about this the more I realize, I may not need to change it. I guess my concern is that, are the Geolandars G015 that came with Forester Wilderness the same quality Geolandars G015 you buy aftermarket...
Which tire can barrel through heavy snow downfall at 80 mph?
My mud claw mtx tires are the ultimate tire with a 12 ply and f load rating! Best tires I've ever owned and I love the way they sing on the road
I just like the idea and look of mud grips… I never get dirty
You do understand that the nittos used at KOH are a different tire than the ones consumers buy right? KOH nittos are a K spec tire made for racing
Ive had mud grapplers, trail grapplers, stt pro, geolander goo3 all on a f150 crew cab loaded down with camping gear in the Rockies. Just installed another set of geolanders on my brand new truck if that tells you anything.
👍 Compared to the listed tires, how are they in the mud? Currently I have the STT PROs, but I like the Geolandars and mud traction is very important to me.
Just one more question, compared to the STT PROs, which look more aggressive?
@V8AmericanMuscleCar In my opinion, the geolanders look more aggressive. I believe the sidewall lugs are bigger and go down further. Mud is pretty dang close both did good for me the biggest difference will be on the highway especially wet highway the geolanders do better in my opinion. Can't go wrong with either honestly both are pretty good in the mud. They both look good the g003 might look a little more rugged to my eyes kind of hard to explain.
@@rockie307 thanks for reply, I appreciate it. I think Geolandars are my next tires. 😃
What psi did you keep them at?
35 to 40 highway, down to 20 -25 depending how bad the jeep trail.
Loved all the Aussie vehicles used in the video
I’ve had my 295/70/18 Yokohama G003’s for 2 years and put 64,000 miles on them and still have about 4/32’s of tread left. They are on my 2017 JKU sport and I’ll be replacing with the same tire.
I have a 2011 Jk Sport 2Dr Fire Red!
I have been running 265 70 17 BFGoodrich Ko2s on Daytona D window steel wheels! Great tire and lots off miles on them. Going with Nitto trail grabbers 33" 285 70 17 and a pro 2" lift!! Did I make the right choice!
We love the Nitto Trail grapplers! We had some awesome experiences with them in Moab, UT
Had Trail Grapplers, good for off road in mud, ok on rocks but with some chunking. Its a nightmare on road with noise and not good in rain. MT G003 is just awesome in all be it on tarmac in rain and brilliant off road in any terrain from wet rocks to heavy sticky mud. Best of all they are way more comfortable over the Trail Grapplers and have superb wear characteristics. This is my experience with my FJ Cruiser. Also those who are using MT G003 are getting 40,000 miles life with proper inflation and rotation. Chalk test is a must.
Hey Roy I have Yokohama ATs on my 87 4runner & they're great (much better than the BFG ATs) but really want to install the MTs on my FJ as well. What size did you go with & what suspension setup do you have? My FJ is bone stock.
@@garrettsmith8286 I went through the trauma of the snorkel cut so avoided BMC even though I have 6112/5160 on the FJ so went with stock 265-70x17 size but the MT G003 look nice as I get compliments from even those who are not into 4WD vehicles just for the look of the tires. I had 87 4Runner when I was in the univ, its a bullet proof vehicle in every way.
@@RoyFJ65 Thanks for the reply. Yes the 4runner was my fathers & we drove all over the USA in it. Its a keeper just like the FJ will be. I currently have 35" Older Cooper STT pros on a different Toy & like them, so when I saw the G03s looked the same it got my attention.
@@garrettsmith8286 had the STT Pro on my 84 G Wagen, the MT G003 are miles apart in performance and refinement over the STT Pro but the Coopers started this aggressive MT hybrid trend and am thankful to them for that reason.
@@RoyFJ65 MT G003 it is then. Plus made in Japan along with the other oem rubber bits on the FJ.
Need to do a video comparing the Toyo MT and the Geolandar G003.. tires are very similar.. I’m leaning towards the G003 right now.. Ram 2500 (haven’t owned either)
I had geolanders put on my Tacoma and for some reason they had a hard time sitting on the lip of my fuel wheels but honestly I’ve always talked bad about how toyos were no good but my mind changed when I put them on and honestly I’ve had no problems with them so far 👍🏻
Did u get the geolanders on your fuel rims? Cause I have fuel rims and want the geolanders instead of toyo mt I have had then great tire. Want to try the geos though
@@Greg-pz9nt it was the first set my tire shop ordered and the sidewall didn’t pop on the bead locks so they order me toyos and haven’t had no complaints
G003 no issue and i only use 4x4 in my tundra if the road is icy here in alaska
Is anyone tried Yoko Geolandar 35/12.5/17 in ford ranger raptor here ?
Kenda klever rt vs falken at3w next please.
I’m here to see which one works best for snow. I live in the backwoods in Ohio and about to be deep in it. My driveway dry needs 4wd to get up.
Which tire did you go with?
I have a first Gen expedition just got the g003's and the geo at's on a 97 f250 for the last 6 years. love these tires they have taken me places off road other brands didn't get me.
BS
Can you guys compare the xcomp gladiator mt and the geolander mt!!? Pleas and thank you
We will add it to the list!
I’m looking for an aggressive looking tire I will be on the road 98-99% of the time maybe a light trail or beach very rarely. I just heard that these larger wider tires are bad when it comes to hydroplaning. It appears he says the nitto trail grapplers are better when it comes to this. Does everyone agree with this? I live outside Philadelphia do rain snow and I want to be the safest as possible. Thank you 🙏🏻
About hydroplaning, thats true. A wider tire has to displace more water, but everywhere I read, Geolanders are said to be among the best in the wet.
Am I wrong for actually wanting a loud tire on the asphalt? I just like to hear them howling.. And I love the feeling at slow speeds when you can feel each rotation of the tire.. Where is the review for the loudest tire? LoL !!
What is the weight difference between the 2 compared?
Go on discount tires website and choose a size. It will tell you the weight. But the nitto is heavier for sure
My trail grapplers have been beyond abused. Starting with a nail that got stuck in it the day after I bought them that was 2017. It’s still in my tire.
The tires are insanely durable!
Getting geolandars next!
my geolandars are amazing except on snowy roads
No mention of actual diameter, width, weight?
It would be nice to see the tires sitting still beside each other. It's hard to see them when there moving all the time. Thanks
Noted! Thanks Kevin!
I just traded in my 2011 Jeep for a 2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara. I'm looking for some new tires and wheels but I want a tire that is quiet on the road for a daily driver what would you recommend? I had 2.5" lift with 20" rims and 35's.... Last ones I had were Hercules TG but didn't care for the look.. Thank you in advance. =)
BFG KO2 for sure!
@@TrailBuilt thank you !!
I've had the Yokohama for 4 years. They've been great. 45k miles on a 2dr JK. Still have plenty of tread, but they are starting to get hard to balance. I have done terrible things to them here in the dessert and they've never let me down. In 2-3+ ft deep snow I get farther than any of my friends do. Until the last few thousand miles they are super quiet. Rotate them so they spin the opposite direction every 5k and they'll last and wear well.
Just bought Yokohama Geolander G015 AT for my Suzuki XL7ex3 because my size was hard to get in at type. Do far I love them and they look aggressive. I jeeped out my sister with a new tire and rim and five new center caps 😝
When everything else looks the same, I'm going with Yokohama 100 out of 100 times. They are like the Toyota of rubber, IMO the best Japanese tire company.
I love Mud Grips and I never drive on dirt
Can y’all do a BFG KM3 vs Firestone MT2??
We will add it to our list! Thanks Moses!
KM3 hands down
Nice
These Yokohama G003s are quieter than Falken Wildpeak AT3s. AT3s that i had on a RAV4 and Yokos 37x12.5 on my 2021 Rubicon
Wow quieter than the AT3?? Wow
@@chrisbryan6493 yeah wowzie wow wow
BS
Those Yokohamas look almost identical to buckshot mudders and the original Bfg mt. Similar to trail grappler and toyo mt
No they dont lol
Trail Grappler is the better tire for off roading but its super heavy for dual use vehicles. Geolander seems like the best of both worlds
I disagree..my trail grapplers didn't pull great in the mud..compared to yokos
Why do people hate on road noise. It means I have some big o MT on duh…
I have Yokohama geo lander goo3 285 33's, and they are not too noisy. Just barely turn on the music and you can't hear them. But great tires and I will get them again.
Yokis Baby 💪
The answer.... bf Goodrich km3. They are noisy but perform really well.
You should do a kenda klever at2 vs wildpeak at3
I know what one I would pick 👀😅😂
@@TrailBuilt do tell lol
If I had to choose I would go with the Klever's however just because I didn't pick the Falkens does not mean that was not a hard choice! The Wildpeak AT3 is an incredible tire.
I just got some 37x13.50 r17 Geolandar X AT's on my Rubicon because badass boys need badass tires for their badass toys.
Have a set of Yokohamas and in 4 years they are finally ready to be replaced, 60k miles out of them
How about wheels and tires ready to fixed can you send me?
I need for 22 tundra truck?
Reply me if you able to get back
Or Facebook page?
For sure! So you are looking for wheels and tires for your Tundra?
Yessss
Sounds good! So I found some options for your Tundra on our site that you can check out. However, do you have any specific tire models/brands in mind you were looking at? www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/store/wheels?year=2022&make=Toyota&model=Tundra&drive=4WD&modification=Minor%20Plastic%20Trimming&suspension=Leveling%20Kit&rubbing=No%20rubbing%20or%20scrubbing
@@TrailBuilt
Thank you for your reply
Just like My guns I get all the tactical stuff and never shoot them
If you rate a mt’s performance by how quiet it is on the road, you bought the wrong tire in the first place
This was an ad for both tires, not a comparison
Yah, I've been eyeballing G003 Geolander
Love mine!
@@Wayfinder_JT how would you rate them for cold roads in the winter snow/ice?
Use them for what terrain (pavement, gravel, mud, rock crawl)?
@@nemesis851_ I haven’t been to the off road park yet...next month but snow snd gravel roads and highway they have performed just fine. I am happy with how they ride and they have tons of grip. Went down a snowy gravel road last weekend and I didn’t even have to switch to 4wd.
Falkens allday erday
Nitto all day. I’m betting the geos are cheaper and it’s the “rebellious” thing to do to go with those. Psh
That's funny. The BFG fanbois said the same exact thing about your Nitto's back in the day.
Yokohama > Nitto
I don’t like the wannabe Toyo mts If you going to buy some geolanders might as well by the real deal
This video is long on wind and short on relevant info. Sheesh!
After the TSL Boggers finally wore down, and the paddle tires weren't needed I'm looking for new tires for my Grams old 92' Buick LeSabre 🇺🇸👍🖕
If you need to see any options just let us know!
You think a track kit is the way to go?
Not a bad option, are you pretty set on getting a track kit?
@@TrailBuilt yeah I think it'll help with the 1 wheel peel. Even when I load the roof rack with lumber it doesn't help with traction
@@TrailBuilt I think so. I have the LED tail light kit which is supposed to add atleast 25HP so coupled with the RainX wiper blades I'm good for raw power, need to get all that power to the ground
P.S do you think it would increase my radios reception if I was to twist-tie a straightened out coat hanger to the antenna? And how much faster will Super White bulbs make my Rig?
yoko is 68 pounds nitto is 80 !!!!
I just wanna know which is better for sand🫠